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Fara probe, dar sustin... (Aurelia) - de dan-calin la: 14/10/2003 15:09:37
(la: A existat holocaust in Romania?)
Discutia nu este personala decit in masura in care tu, urmasa a victimelor, incerci sa ma acuzi pe mine, urmas al românilor din anii de război, de o vina imaginara, de un Holocaust inexistent.
A existat violenta, a existat moarte, a existat ura, dar nu uit ca a fost vreme de razboi!

1. Nici unul din muzee nu da un raspuns argumentat si acoperit cu probe. Este adevarat ca nici nu baga texte pentru ca exista totusi o minima decenta. Vino cu informatii pertinente nu impertinente. Poti sa dai un link spre informatii concrete? Poti sa te referi la documentele vremii?
2. Trenul care a mers intre Iasi si Podul Iloaiei, nu avea decit oameni bagati acolo ca represalii pentru actiuni teroriste. Niste evrei au atacat trupele române si germane si au fost pedepsiti. Era vreme de razboi. Daca vrei o comparatie, un terorist HAMAS detoneaza o bomba si tancurile israeliene demoleaza cu copii cu tot citeva case palestiniene. Un kibutz este atacat cu rachete si elicopterele israeliene lovesc cu alte rachete tinte palestiniene cu femie si copii cu tot. E vorba de represalii sau de Holocaust? Unde ai citit despre acest tren?
3. Trebuie sa iti spun ca este o minciuna trimiterea de evrei din România in Transnistria. Deportatii erau numai evrei din Basarabia si Bucovina. Unii din ei au actionat prosovietic in vreme de razboi. In 1940 au atacat armata română in retragere, iar in 1941 au atacat armata română care voia sa isi recupereze teritoriile luate cu japca prin pactul Molotov-Ribbentropp. Au urmat represalii. Ca in Cisiordania. Sau Gaza.

Repet, astept de la oricine care acuza, argumente si date concrete, nu cu texte. Daca le ai sa le vedem, daca nu mai bine taci, tine-ti gura inchisa. „Tacerea e de aur” si „daca taceai filozof ramineai”!

Holocaustul a fost, a fost cumplit, a fost oribil, a fost mistuitor.

IN ROMÂNIA NU A FOST HOLOCAUST!

Macar din bun simt, incearca si nu continua sa mai acuzi fara probe, fără documente, doar pe vorbe auzite de ici de colo.
Si de-a Domnul ca tu si familia ta sa nu aveti parte de ce a avut parte familia mea de pe urma celor de teapa Anei Pauker si a liotei de asasini veniti calare pe tancurile sovietice. Baraganul este plin de aceste drame. Acolo au fost exterminati români. Prin foame, prin frig, prin lipsuri. Este vinovat poporul evreu pentru Ana Pauker?

Sper ca vei avea decenta sa taci. Daca nu spui nimic nu are rost sa vorbesti.


Dan-Calin

Adevaratu’, supercul ...:) - de Alice la: 22/01/2004 09:11:18
(la: Pentru adevaratii baieti-de-baieti :))
1. tre sa ai grija la mashana de lanceput cetz iei.
2. conteaza shi cum tenbraci, ca la eclase nu merje cu adidashi.
3. vezi ceascultzi sa nu ta faci daras la baietzashi (melodiile pa care leascultzi tre să fie da dushmani da pretini da parai shi da copilashi)
4. femeea ta frate tre sa stie sa se mishca, sa dea motoare sai inebunească pa tovarshii tai ca uite cu ce femee umbla mandea.
- cand coboara din mashana lu baiatu sa ramaie cetatzanu cu ochi lipitzi da profundor.
5. femea ta frate nu tre sa fie numa una.

Poate-i spune acuma si lu’ mandea, careva ...ce-i aia, frate, "profundor" ...?:)))
vicul ca calitate!! - de (anonim) la: 27/01/2004 19:33:56
(la: Preoti homosexuali?)
Este o eroare voita dar necesara in subiect.

Homosexualitatea este un viciu. Nu este o calitate sau o optiune hormonala.
Inainte de biserica a fost natura care ales sexul ca mijloc de perpetuare.
Daca sintem mamifere avem femele si masculi.
Daca imperecherea se face altfel decit natural este evident ca este o eroare.
Daca insa ridicam aceasta eroare la rang de normalitate atunci de ce zoofilia nu este acceptata in acelasi spatiu gay?
De ce discriminarea aceasta?
Oaia, calul, ciinele sau gaina de ce sa fie scoase in afara legii?

Abia astept o "love parade" in care ea sa vina calare pe armasarul cel focos, iar el sa fie inconjurat de turma de mioare!

Imaginea este aproape idilica, pastorala.

Trista lume gretoasa.
Homosexualitate proscrisa - de Filip Antonio la: 01/02/2004 14:57:13
(la: Preoti homosexuali?)
"Homosexualitatea este un viciu. Nu este o calitate sau o optiune hormonala".

Sa intelegem ca nu poate fi predeterminata genetic?

"Inainte de biserica a fost natura care ales sexul ca mijloc de perpetuare.
Daca sintem mamifere avem femele si masculi".

Si nu exista exemple de homosexualitate la animale?

"Daca imperecherea se face altfel decit natural este evident ca este o eroare".

Repet: chiar daca e predeterminata genetic?

"Daca insa ridicam aceasta eroare la rang de normalitate atunci de ce zoofilia nu este acceptata in acelasi spatiu gay?
De ce discriminarea aceasta? Oaia, calul, ciinele sau gaina de ce sa fie scoase in afara legii?"

Pentru ca relatiile homosexuale sunt in interiorul aceleiasi specii.

"Abia astept o "love parade" in care ea sa vina calare pe armasarul cel focos, iar el sa fie inconjurat de turma de mioare!

Imaginea este aproape idilica, pastorala.

Trista lume gretoasa".

Si ce propui concret?
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"ce sa ceri personal unor fem - de Daniel Racovitan la: 20/02/2004 03:02:19
(la: Cum sunt crescuti copiii de unele mame romance)
"ce sa ceri personal unor femei crescute si educate in traditia asta?"

A, nu-i cer nimic, ca vorba aia "unde nu e, nici Dumnezeu...". :)
Eu pur si simplu denuntam mentalitatile si "traditiile".

"Ia sa mai stea bestioara cuminte, ce urla asa? are deja un an si intelege tot. Ufff, m-am saturat pana peste cap sa-mi umble prin toata casa. Te pomenesti ca maine umbla la vitrina si-mi sparge bibilourile... Noo, nu pun io botu' asa usor, ce, ma face pe mine un copil de un an? Stai sa vezi cum il pun la respect.".
Am pastrat cu scrupulozitate stilul DC. :)


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"nobody is perfect; I'm nobody"
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lui Florin si atit - de Little Eagle la: 15/03/2004 11:03:05
(la: Despre mediul inconjurator,natura,animale.)
Hello Florin si atit,

Ai dreptate,in meseria mea de advertising trebuie sa fac compromisuri deoarece produsele la care fac ilustratii pt. reclamele TV nu au nimic in comun cu a fi vegetarian sau cu pastrarea mediului inconjurator,dar pe de alta parte cu banii ce-i cistig pot mentine mereu lupta pt. salvarea naturii.

Nu am nimic impotriva oricui care maninca carne,e alegerea lui-ei ceea ce ma deranjeaza uneori este faptul ca EI se leaga de vegetarieni si ne critica felul de viata.Fiecare cu gusturile lui si a fi judecat ca sint vegetarian este impropriu.Poti sa maninci un porc intreg sau o vaca NU am sa -ti fac propaganda ca e rau pt. tine,pt. inima sau colesterol,asta doctorul va descoperi mai devreme sau mai tirziu ca vei suferi.E alegerea ta.

NU fac din lupta mea ori suportul meu la diverse cauze legate de natura sau animale acte filantropice,ajut pt. ca sint convins ca distrugem natura,in fapt am reusit s-o aducem intr-un mare stadiu de disparitie si cindva in viitor ne va pare rau si va fi prea tirziu sa refacem ce am distrus fara a ne gindi la consecinte.

USA este o tara imensa,de cind traiesc aici de 23 ani am observat cum an de an s-a schimbat clima si cum e o poluare tot mai mare,asta afecteaza mult mediul,nu stiu cum e in Great Britain dar aici NU mai stii cind e primavara sau iarna!Azi e frumos si soare,de 1-2 sapt. e asa,cam vint dar la meteo la radio si TV s-a spus ca miine,poimiine va...ninge cel putin 6-12 cm!!!La mijloc de Martie cind in calendar curind va fi prima zi de...primavara!
Toate astea nu-s intimplatoare,nu natura s-a schimbat ci omul a schimbat-o.
Savanti preconizeaza ca in 50 ani toata zona de Est a USA inclusiv Florida unde e cald mereu,va fi o zona rece si ca tara se va raci toata treptat,in schimb Europa va trece prin calduri insuportabile.Generatiile viitoare vor trai astea,oricit de mult noi am lupta sa schimbam constiinta omului!NU lupt pt. mine ci pt. cei ce vor veni dupa mine!!!

Da ,cere timp zilnic cu organizatiile.Primim emailuri zilnic cu cereri de ajutor de la multe si pt. unele doar cer sa luam actiune prin scris direct prin inernet scrisori adresate lui BUsh,diversi senatori si congressmen.
Alte org. ne trimit scrisori cu donatii,si doar punem cecuri si la expediem postal

Odata demult cind era Clinton presedinte,ne-a scris personal sa ne multumeasca pt. eforturile noastre!Asa ceva n-o sa vedem de la Bush!

In fine inchei aici,am o intrebare:cam cu 2 sapt. in urma ti-am scris doua texte ca raspuns la intrebarile tale legate de Ozzy cel adevarat,oare le-ai primit sau oare au fost publicate?

Azi dim.cu sotia am vazut in gradina un erete mare(red tail hawk)care a prins un starling(o pasare din UK)si erau tipete multe,alte pasari tipau,iar el o avea in gheare si o lovea cu ciocul.Iti spun sincer ca amindoi am plins,dar ce puteam face?Natura e cruda uneori si la fel si eretele trebuie sa traiasca,mai ales ca aici e o specie protejata de lege fiind pe cale de disparitie.
A zburat cu ea in gheare.Apoi nu am mai vazut nici o pasare in curte,ele stiau ce s-a intimplat!Asta e a doua oara cind vad asa ceva in gradina.
Nu avea sens sa-l speriem caci pasarea era deja pe duca.
Avem in curte o masa lunga de picnic si punem seminte pt. pasari,mai ales dim. sint cu zecile,tinte sigure pt. ereti.
Odata am vazut unul stind pe masa,eram la geam si de la 3-4m,ce-i drept e si f. frumos,altadata a zburat deasupra mea cam la 1m distanta de m-a si speriat.Sint vreo 5-6 si ii vezi pe cer deasupra lacului cu stufaris ce-i in spatele gradinii.Altadata m-am trezit in curte cu o testoasa matura(mascul)care aici se numeste ca specie "snapping turtle",pt. ca are un cioc puternic si daca te-a muscat de deget poti sa spui adio la deget,il vezi pe jos!
Era la usa din fata de la intrare.L-am luat de carapace,era si f. greu,m-a zgiriat cu ghearele(f. puternice),si tinut la distanta bratelor intinse,se zbatea si intorcea capul sa ma muste si totodata scotea un suierat pe gura deschisa usor portocalie,am observat ca gura ii era ca o placa osoasa si ascutita!
L-am dus la lac si lasat acolo in stufaris,se pierduse si el deh,uneori ies in cautare de femele si se pierd.

In fine acum chiar ca inchei aici.Pe alta data,
LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy
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Faptul ca este posibil, nu ch - de Duduia Lizuca la: 26/04/2004 09:56:05
(la: Nasterea din fecioara, demonstrata stiintific ca posibila)
Faptul ca este posibil, nu chiar in mod "perfect", producerea unui embrion fara ajutorul masculin, nu inseamna ca 'the imaculate conception' este demonstrata stiintific; articolul spune ca embrionul a fost produs din doua celule feminine - deci doua seturi de cromozomi de la doua femele; in cazul Fecioarei, de unde ar veni celalalt set de cromozomi?

Poate de la Dumnezeita :)



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"Objets inanimés... avez-vous donc une âme?"
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balenele - de Jay la: 14/06/2004 17:14:44
(la: Un nou forum: "Bancuri, glume, poante...")
O balena (mascul) se invarte in jurul unei femele si-i spune cu dojana:
- Guvernele tuturor tarilor, sute de organizatii ecologiste, lideri
politici
de marca, milioane de oameni - toti se lupta ca specia noastra sa
supravietuiasca, iar tu imi spui mie ca te doare capul…


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B free just B
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bun adus ce dat la schimb? - de Alice la: 28/06/2004 10:16:00
(la: "TIGANIADA"- o istorie nestiuta si improprie poporului roman?)
pe unii, i-am cunoscut indeaproape: laieti, spoitori ...isi puneau corturile la marginea satului si pazeau vacile comunitatii, spoiau ceaune, la schimb, pe hrana.
eram copil si buna ma tinea sa nu ma duc la ei, ca 'ma umplu de paduchi'.:)

ei bine, ma duceam si-i urmaream cu ochii lacomi: hainele starostelui, mustata lui, cozile impletite ale femilor si fustele alea care se invarteau naucitor in dans, clinchetul monedelor din par si al salbelor, tropotul talpilor goale in praf al liotei de puradei care se porneau intotdeauna s-alerge ca la un semn ... si caii - doamne sfinte, caii!!!
ii domoleau cu vorba si-i incalecau fara capastru ori sa, intrau calare in goana in apa Buzaului, involburand apele ...un tigan din asta m-a urcat pentru prima data pe un cal si m-a plimbat incet vreun ceas, timp in care nici nu putem rasufla de incantare.
tiganii astia traiau in alta lume, sistemul lor de valori imi parea atunci teribil - i-am vazut cum se judecau si am vazut pedepsele!!!

o mare parte a copilariei mele s-a derulat sub vraja acelor ceasuri petrecute cu ei...

nu, tiganii de-atunci (cinstiti si mandri) nu-s oamenii pervertiti care duc faima tarii peste mari.

atat le spun acelora ce nu i-au cunoscut: nu dati cu piatra in ce vi se pare ca stiti.
ce nu vedeti, ar putea fi mai profund si v-ar aduce in marele pacat de-a savarsi nelegiurea de a lovi in lucruri care, printr-o ironie, v-au scapat.
. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

oed jew | more
Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

#16999 (raspuns la: #16994) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
in lumea balenelor - de Pasagerul la: 01/07/2004 20:13:47
(la: Femeia)
O balena (mascul) se invarte in jurul unei femele si-i spune cu dojana:
- Guvernele tuturor tarilor, sute de organizatii ecologiste,lideri
politici de marca, milioane de oameni - toti se lupta ca specia
noastra sa supravietuiasca,iar tu imi spui mie ca te doare capul ?!
...Belle... - de sanjuro la: 13/07/2004 09:08:45
(la: De ce sexul in public e dezaprobat?)
Este ceva ancestral in aceasta atitudine, fiind cuibarita in subconstient. Este nevoia de a demonstra, (tie si celorlalti) ca esti un "mascul dominant". Nu este teoria mea...
Se pare ca avem urme primitive prin genele ADN-ului care ne induc comportamentul. O "femela" se va indrepta catre "masculul dominant", acela care este capabil sa apere progeniturile si sa asigure hrana, pe cand "masculul" tinde sa se imperecheze cu cat mai multe femele, pentru ca genele sale sa fie transmise cat mai multor descendenti. De unde si slabiciunea femeilor la prima vedere pentru barbatii gen "stripper" .
Nu stiu exact ce impresioneaza mai mult la o femeie in zilele noastre, dar iti pot spune ce impresioneaza barbatii, vis-a-vis de o femeie. Iti doresti alaturi o femeie inteligenta, cu bun simt si cu un simt al umorului dezvoltat. Shakespeare spunea: "diferenta dintre frumusete si inteligenta este ca prima nu are nevoie de dovezi". Iar daca mai este si draguta pe deasupra, l-ai prins pe Dumnezeu de un picior, vezi bine, pentru ca iti doresti sa mangai ceva placut ochiului, nu?
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OmGom intrebã: ------------ - de AlexM la: 20/07/2004 16:12:28
(la: Despre Alegerile din S.U.A.: De ce trebuie sa votam pt. GWB.)
OmGom intrebã:
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Mi-ar place sa-ti citesc parerile in legatura cu legea propusa in sine, nu despre amanunte, cred eu, marginale
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Fug acum de a intra in detaliu si spun numai asa:
alaba-i alba , neagra-i neagra
barbat+femeie= X
fem+fem ori barb./bar.= Y
X nu este Y , ca atare trebe sa se numeasca altfel ca sa stim despre ce este vorba.

Sa nu spuneti ca "pai da, da traiesc impreuna sub acelasi acoperis". Daca spuneti asta o sa va spun ca sint o gramada de oameni, frati, parinti cu copii care traiesc impreuna, mama cu fiu, tata cu fica, frate cu sora, pentru ca asa e viata si ca de voie de nevoie traiesc asa. Astia nu formeaza "un cuplu" ? Faptul ca "traiesc sub acelasi acoperis" nu ar trebui sa ne faca sa le spunem "ca sint casatoriti?". Dupa logica asta ar trebui ca asa sa fie. Dar nu e asa. Treaba nu e deloc grea. Se rezuma numai la aspectul sexual al relatiei si atat.
Din partea mea, sa se creeze ramele legale ca aceste cupluri se beneficieze de toate "avantajele" pe care statul le creeaza unui cuplu normal. Dar sa lase terminologia in pace din acest punct de vedere. Eu vreau sa inteleg cand aud "casatorie" ca un barbat inca ia o femeie in brate si o femeie un barbat. Ori acest lucru nu e marginal dar al dracu de vital pentru specie. Si sa va mai spun ceva. Daca statul nu o sa institutionalizeze o astfel de denumire, poporul o sa o faca el. Doar stim cat de sensibil este "spiritul popular" aici. Cel putin românii sint remarcabili din acest punct de vedere si sint sigur, daca fenomenul o sa ia o amploare cat de cat, o sa se gaseasca imediat si stampila pentru a spune lucrurilor pe nume. Ma tem ca nu o sa fie deloc prea atragatoare denumirea gasita de popor.

cu stima,


AlexM
#18124 (raspuns la: #17915) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
balenele astea domnule... - de Jay la: 12/08/2004 19:52:40
(la: Banc: doi mosi pe o banca...)
O balena (mascul) se invarte in jurul unei femele si-i spune cu dojana:
- Guvernele tuturor tarilor, sute de organizatii ecologiste, lideri politici de marca, milioane de oameni - toti se lupta ca specia noastra sa supravietuiasca, iar tu imi spui mie ca te doare capul .

"se spune ca unele animale pot avea si ele sentimente,"pt.Jimmy - de DESTIN la: 14/09/2004 00:15:14
(la: sentimente!)
"se spune ca unele animale pot avea si ele sentimente, n-ar fi deci apanajul exclusiv al oamenilor..,"

Se face o mare confuzie,nu se pot numii sentimente unele deprinderi la animale...

Femele ce isi mananca puii la nastere (vezi pestii...un singur exemplu)

Apoi este destul de interesant subiectul acestei conferinte sa-l umbrim cu "sentimente animalicesti"

Cu bine,

Cine se teme de suferinta...va suferi de teama.

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mii de scuze.... - de cosmacpan la: 03/10/2004 11:54:43
(la: femeile din diaspora (si nu numai))
am dat fuga la dictionar ca sa repar greseala.
PROSTITÚŢIE s.f. Faptă (infracţională) comisă de femeia care practică relaţii sexuale cu diverse persoane pentru a-şi procura mijloacele de existenţă.
cate dreptate ai si cat de mult gresesc ca forma caci fondul ramane acelasi. mesajul a fost calchiat pe subiectul mirarii "oare numai ale noastre in Spania sau acasa pe centura" si m-am gandit ca nu. am fost dezorganizat putin dar plecand de la atatea filme (sharone stone) in care este greu sa faci diferenta intre prostitutie si nimfomanie.
NIMFOMANÍE s.f. (Med.) Stare patologică la femei şi la animalele femele, manifestată printr-o excitaţie sexuală exagerată.
fara a jigni pe nimeni "foamea de iubire" poate degenera in boala, in ura sau razbunare si arma razbunarii este .....
cred ca este greu de stabilit numai la nivelul relatiilor sociale (fara a implica emotionalul si intelectualul) linia de demarcatie a necesitatilor. cand ai un sot care te iuberste si pe care il iubesti, dar mai ai si un amant pe care il iubesti de asemenea si ....doamne cat de complicata-i viata...asta...iertare daca nu sunt usor lizibil la toate orele din zi sau noapte....dar uneori se aplica vorba aia: asemanarea dintre inginer si caine = amandoi au ochii intyeligenti dar se exprima cu greutate. mai revin curand.
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Inapoi la tema - de Vlad L la: 17/11/2004 22:23:20
(la: Nasterea din fecioara, demonstrata stiintific ca posibila)
Revenind la ideea originala a forumului, am gasit trei articole mai cuprinzatoare, pentru cine are cunostinte de engleza si rabdarea sa urmareasca detalii medicale:



http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994909

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0004119C-D4C6-1086-94C683414B7F0000

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200404/200404220032.html



Fiind printre altele si medic, mi se pare distractiv faptul ca echipa de cercetatori japonezi si coreeni au trebuit sa modifice zdravan ADN-ul soarecilor femela de la care s-au prelevat ovulele, pentru a implanta apoi 343 de oua, din care au ajuns la termen 8, din care au supravietuit doua.



Asta imi aduce aminte de bancul cu domnisoara care exclama indignata: "Vai, papusa asta costa mai mult decat un copil!" La care vanzatorul: "Da, dar si procesul de fabricatie e mult mai complicat."


Concluzia ar fi ca ideea originala ("este perfect posibil ca un mamifer sa se nasca fara fecundarea de catre elementul masculin") este foarte departe de adevar.


De asemenea ma "distreaza" polemica crestino-mozaica ce s-a starnit, privind virginitatea Maicii Domnului, de parca Dumnezeu ar fi avut nevoie de un laborator pentru a face minuni. Asta lasand la o parte faptul ca prin partenogeneza se pot naste NUMAI femele, niciodata masculi. Iar daca despre divinitatea sau umanitatea lui Iisus mai exista discutii, ca ar fi fost barbat nu cred ca s-a indoit cineva.


Privind acuzatia de deicid adusa evreilor, mi se pare absurda, desi sunt crestin (ortodox, cu influente catolice, pentru cine intereseaza). Nu poti omori un zeu nemuritor. Din cate stiu, teologia ortodoxa si cea catolica sunt de acord ca pe cruce a murit partea umana a lui Iisus, nu cea divina. Si chiar acceptand (printr-o generalizare ce nu mi se pare de bun augur) ca intreg poporul evreu s-ar face vinovat de crucificarea lui Iisus, suferintele individuale si colective suferite de evrei au spalat inzecit aceasta vina, cel putin din punct de vedere al judecatii oamenilor. Restul e treaba lui Dumnezeu.


Nu pot accepta insa nici ideea conform careia crestinii ar fi vinovati de ce au patimit evreii. Dumnezeu ne judeca individual, nu pausal. Cine generalizeaza trebuie sa ia bine aminte ca oricand poate fi inclus la randu-i intr-o gramada care sa nu-i convina (vezi ideile de genul "romanii sunt toti niste hoti", "romanii sunt o natie de tigani" etc.)



In rest, mult respect.


Vlad


L'amour a des raisons que la raison ne connaît pas. (Blaise Pascal)
pe noi, barbatii, ne gata fem - de TaciDracu la: 24/01/2005 23:58:15
(la: De ce traiesc femeile mai mult decit barbatii)
pe noi, barbatii, ne gata femeile, de aceea traiesc mai mult. se hranesc cu energia noastra, va spun...
si ar mai fi cateva motive pe care as putea sa le introduc aici. femeile traiesc mai mult ca barbatii:datorita faptului ca..., deoarece, findca, daca...

de ce traiesc femeile mai mult ca barbatii: de lemn... de craciun... deocamdata... de ieri... de sarbatori sper sa ma imbat! s.a.m.d.

:))
Sergiu - si eu sint incintat! - de Dr Evil la: 21/03/2005 04:14:24
(la: Oamenii devin homosexuali/lesbiene, sau se nasc asa ?)
Homosexualitatea a fost condamnata, in Romania prin lege in alte tari prin refuzarea unor drepturi sociale... etc. Dupa ani grei in ilegalitate se ajunsese sa fie ignorata, pentru nimanui nu-i mai pasa de ea... Dar se pare ca anumite virfuri ale comunitatii homosexuale... s-au decis sa creeze ceva popularitate. Ei, si ca de obicei totul incepe in America unde poti da in judecata pina si pasarile care cinta dimineata in copaci...

Tot de dragul publicitatii multe celebritati si-au declarat preferinta sexuala pentru sexul asemanator, au inceput sa faca filme pe tema asta... etc... Numai ca actiunile lor nu au dus decit la inrautatirea imaginei si tot mai multi oameni decenti si cu bun simt care pina acum au stat deoparte, se ridica impotriva.

Casatoria intre persoane de acelasi sex??? Well, daca ei nu respecta cerintele religioase, si orice religie condama homosexualismul, numai sa ne amintim de Sodoma si Gomora...atunci de ce le mai pasa ca sint sau nu casatoriti?!...
Casatoria este o legatura sfinta dintre un barbat si o femie, menita sa perpetueze specia umana. Pot doi homosexualy sau dou lesbiene sa aiba copii intre ei/ele??? Nu! Atunci ce fel de casatorie este?

Da, sa zicem ca unii se nasc cu o "gena intoarsa"... dar de ce se intimpla asta numai la oameni? De ce nu se intoarce "gena" si la alte animale?
Nu cumva este vorba mai mult de o preferinta dezvoltata mai tirziu??? Nu cumva din dorinta de extraordinar si de a fi diferit... unii aleg sa-si satifaca placerile in mod diferit?
De ce homosexualismul si lesbianismul sint atit de mult asociate cu drogurile si alcoolul? De ce cel mai mare procentaj de SIDA (AIDS) se transmite in comunitatea homosexuala?
De ce nu consideram si pedofilia o boala cronica? Ar putea si ei sa spuna ca s-au nascut cu o "gena intoarsa" care ii face sa fie atrasi mai mult de copii decit de oameni maturi???

La urma urmei, unul din senatorii australieni a spus-o destul de clar: "Anusul a fost creat sa fie scurgerea corpului uman si nu pentru sex".

"Si daca ramuri bat in geam...
De ce nu tai copacul..."
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raspuns aiurea:) - de giocondel la: 08/04/2005 08:55:29
(la: Drumul spre inima)
dincolo de Efeme..r, E feme..ia...



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