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Porsche / Auto sport - de (anonim) la: 04/09/2003 15:33:48
(la: Apasarea pe acceleratie, franare-in-forta si diverse sporturi vestimentare)
Nu inteleg foarte bine intrebarea din comentariul tau.
Ce e aia o masina sport ?
Ce se poate face cu un Porsche ?
Poate fi considerat sport conducerea unei masini ?

Mai intai o precizare: se scrie PORSCHE si nu Porche. Porsche este una dintre putinele masini cu adevarat "Sport" care se poate cumpara la mai putin de $150,000 USD.

http://www3.porsche.com/english/int/home.htm

Prima intrebare: o masina cu doua usi, sau pe care scrie sport sau GT nu este tot aia cu o masina sport. Am vazut Ford Fiesta GT Sport. Asta nu e o masina sport. O masina sport este o masina care poate sa treaca de 250 kmh fara sa sara de pe drum, si fara sa simti ca o sa se desprinda in bucati daca apesi acceleratia un milimetru mai mult. O masina sport nu inseamna o masina comoda, cu aer conditionat si CD player (pentru asta sint limuzinele). Inseamna o masina in care te urci ca sa o conduci si sa simti ca toti caii putere din motor te asculta, si ca masina reactioneaza la cea mai mica miscare din accelerator, frana sau volan. Nu in ultimul rand, din motive de securitate o masina de sport nu se conduce pe drumuri publice - ci pe o pista de curse.


A doua intrebare: daca n-ai stat niciodata la volanulul unui Porshe sa-l vezi cum merge, si cum reactioneaza cei approx 230-400 de cai putere (in functie de versiunea masinii) la comenzile tale, nu prea ai cum sa intelegi ce se poate face intr-un Porsche.

A treia intrebare: daca n-ai condus un Porsche (sau alta masina 'Sport') pe o pista de curse - la limita superioara a performantelor ei, acolo unde diferenta dintre 296.0 kmh si 296.5 kmh devine enorma, iar sutimea de secunda dureaza o eternitate, nu ai cum sa apreciezi ce este aia auto sport.

Asa ca daca vrei sa afli cu adevarat raspunsul, urca-te intr-un Porsche, invarte cheia in contact si calc-o. Dar nu pe drumurile publice, ca aia nu mai e sport ci nebunie. Ci pe o pista de curse. Cand ai sa vezi ca desi acceleratia este apasata la podea, vitezometrul se misca mai incet ca melcul, si ca-ti trebuie 15-20 de secunde sa creasca viteza cu 1 kmh, atunci ai sa stii raspunsurile la toate aceste intrebari.

Pentru alte precizari, nu ezita sa intrebi.
Pai, in acord cu Oxford Engli - de relu la: 30/10/2003 11:49:38
(la: Telectualu' si studiile superioare)
Pai, in acord cu Oxford English Dictionary, o rubrica zice: "Possessing a high degree of understanding; given to pursuits that exercise the intellect." Adica, o persoana avind un nivel inalt de intelegere; o persoana angajata in activitati care exerseaza intelectul (mintea). Deci clar, ca nu trebuie sa ai studii superioare sa fii intelectual. Dar, as spune, ca cei care sint in cursul a orice studii, sint oarecum intelectuali, pentru ca isi exerseaza si isi imbunatatesc mintea. Poate ca nu au obtinut un nivel inalt de intelegere, dar, asta e. Un alt aspect este ca poti fii intelectual intr-o arie foarte ingusta, chiar expert mondial, si complet ignorant intr-o alta.
Just my 2c,
-R
Oh boy, o discutie despre hom - de relu la: 14/12/2003 23:20:55
(la: Viata gay...romaneasca!)
Oh boy, o discutie despre homosexuali intre romani? Si ramine intre limite decente? I'm impressed.

Hai sa-mi dau si eu cu parerea. Crescind macho in Ro, bineinteles am avut parerea omului de rind cind era vorba de "gay." Apoi, cresti in virsta, mai inveti ceva despre oameni, mai cunosti pe careva care dupa vreo doi ani ti se spune ca e homosexual... si-ti schimbi parerea, daca ai un pic de umanitate ramasa in tine. Cel putin mi s-a intimplat mie.

Raspunsul #1 care mi s-a dat de catre romani pe acest subiect a fost: boala. Dictionarul Oxford zice: boala este o stare a corpului, sau a parte din corp, in care functia ei normala este deranjata... in special cind este o schimbare a structurii (translatia mea). Pai cind zicem ca homosexualii (HOS) sint bolnavi, care parte a corpului lor nu mai are functia normala. Se pare ca acea parte a corpului care este cel mai mult sub reflector functioneaza mai tare decit altora multi dintre noi, heterosexualii (HES). Vorbesc de partea de sub centura. Daca vorbim despre partea din craniu, adica creierul, atunci trebuie sa fim atenti. Este problema psihologica, sau neurologica? Acum citiva ani a fost peste tot in "news" ca HOS au un creier diferit decit HES, si se vede concret in CAT scans si MRI. Aha! Deci aici e partea din corp careia i s-a schimbat structura. Apoi intrebarea vine: cu structura asta schimbata, creierul nu mai functioneaza normal? Oxford English Dictionary: normal -- ceea ce se conforma, nu este diferit, de tipul, standardul comun, folosit in mod regular (din nou translatia mea a rubricii 2). Deci in ce fel creierul lor nu functioneaza normal? Am locuit in Toronto vreo 5 ani intr-o zona "trendy" unde tot felul de artisti, avocati, tipi din industria de cinema locuiau. Mergeam cu ciinele la plimbarea zilnica seara in parcul de linga casa, si bineinteles intilnesti pe altii cu ciini. Mai vorbesti, despre ciini si vreme la inceput, si apoi incepi sa-ti faci cunostiinte, si vorbesti despre tot felul de alte chestii. Dupa un timp ti se spune (asa intr-o doara) ca Jack este gay. Are 70 ani, si locuieste cu un tip de 35. Hmmm, ma gindesc, dupa comportarea lui n-as fi ghicit niciodata. Tipul era extra-cult. Foarte tolerant. Niciodata o aluzie la sexualitate. Inalt, sanatos, manierat, "very english." Mie personal mi s-a parut ca creierul lui functiona in toate categoriile care sint importante mai bine decit multi heterosexuali pe care i-am intilnit in viata mea (badarani, idioti, golani care au luat fete tinere cu japca, etc.). Pur si simplu un om decent, din toate punctele de vedere. Ce face el in dormitor? None of my business!

What's my point? Nu cred ca sintem inca echipati cu cunostiintele necesare sa judecam ca altii sint bolnavi si anormali. Poate in vreo 2 sute de ani... cind codul genetic este decodificat.

Celor care spun ca homosexualitatea e impotriva naturii. Pai, din punctul de vedere al "homo sapiens" poate ca e adevarat. Dar ati citit vreodata Biblia Porcului? In care porcul spune ca omul este dusmanul lui ca il taie de craciun? Si ca e impotriva naturii porcului ca omul sa procreeze? Si, deci, din punctul de vedere al porcului (si al altor animale care sint parte din natura noastra) homosexualii sint mai normali, ca nu procreeaza, nu?

Ma abtin sa raspund celor credinciosi. Va respect credinta! Dar nu va e teama ca Biblia a fost scrisa de un rauvoitor? Hei, e posibil. Cind vine Isus, daca zice: "Pai nu v-ati dat seama ca era propaganda diavolului?" No proof whatsoever.

Si-acum sa inchei cu o gluma proasta: de ce ne cheama pe noi "homo sapiens" si nu "hetero sapiens" daca normalul e sa nu fii "gay?"

Numai bine si sanatate la toti, fara cont de culoarea pielii, IQ, orientare sexuala, religie, numar la pantofi, dinti de aur, tara de bastina, stare civila, stare mintala, orientare politica, lungimea parului, limba materna, ...
Relu
Inainte de a injura, mai informeaza-te! - de (anonim) la: 29/01/2004 06:19:18
(la: Cea mai stupida stire a lunii ianuarie)
Cher môsieu francilien,

Oricat de idioata pare stirea, nu doar ca a ocupat un spatiu bun intr-un jurnal televizat al PRO TV-ului (imagini preluate de prin alte tari, decupaj documentar de la rusi, etc.), dar preluata de pe PRAVDA, a circulat in mai multe tari, « experti » in fertilizare si-au dat cu parerea, etc.

Citeste IN EXTENSO stirea originala aici:

http://english.pravda.ru/main/18/90/361/11872_baby.html

Radu /smarttaz
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http://www.fortweb.net/photos - de Daniel Racovitan la: 29/02/2004 06:36:14
(la: Interesant de vazut)
http://www.fortweb.net/photos/ -- o multime de fotografii, in special fortificatii Haxo si din sec XX.

http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/clham/040600.htm -- fotografii, principii, forturi de tip Vauban, Haxo, Brialmont, etc.

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6750/vauban_frame.htm
Un site dedicat maresalului Vauban, al carui geniu in fortificatiile militare a schimbat istoria (desi putina lume stie asta). Biografie, o prezentare succinta a fortificatiilor pe care le-a construit, cat si a celor pe care le-a asediat cu un succes incredibil...

http://www.kaiserstuhl-breisgau.de/Seiten/neuf-brisach.htm -- Fortificatia de la Neuf-Brisach, care reprezinta apogeul fortificatiilor poligonale de tip Vauban (asa-zis-ul tip 3).
http://uk.geocities.com/fpw1870/neufbrisachsiege.html
... si cum poate fi capturata o fortificatie considerata "inexpugnabila" (tot Neuf-Brisach)

http://www.thissen-laboratories.com/forts/index.php3?p=146 despre fortificatiile belginene triunghiulare (tip Brialmont); fotografii , planuri, etc.

http://sabreteam.free.fr/fortif41.htm
o scurta prezentare a celor trei tipuri de fotrtificatii Vauban

http://www.atelierdesdauphins.com/english/forts/barraux/efbevol3.htm
prezinta evolutia in timp a unei fortificatii de tip Vauban (Fort Barraux); planuri succesive, fotografii.

http://www.angelfire.com/wy/svenskildbiter/madict.html
http://civilwarfortifications.com/dictionary/dictionary.html
doua glosare exhaustive, cu termeni legati de fortificatiile militare

http://civilwarfortifications.com/drl/library/morton-np/title.html
o analiza extrem de detaliata a sistemelor si principiilor fortificatiilor poligonale de pana la 1850, facuta de un ofiter american, un studiu facut in vederea fortificarii coastei atlantice a USA.


daca astea nu sunt suficeinte, mai am si alte linkuri :)


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"-- Nene, nene! Da-te jos din corcodush!"
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Salve! - de Duduia Lizuca la: 08/03/2004 15:04:47
(la: Romani in strainatate)
Pentru Petrescou: da, sunt de acord cu tine, darul chiar si de mana a II-a poate fi in unele conditii un dar la fel de pretuit ca si unul nou.

Pentru Adelina: mi-a facut si mie placere sa-ti citesc mesajele; cred ca ai o inima buna.

Si pentru restul: XXXXXXXXX - 'cause I feel in a generous mood (pardon my English :) )
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ingropati/ma de viu in argumentele crudei realitati domnule Laza - de Dinu Lazar la: 28/03/2004 11:02:04
(la: Ce se intampla cu romanii, cu voi?)
"va accept invitatia de a face un tur al tenebrelor din Romania. Vreau sa vad piesele stricate ale vechiului regim comunist"

Stimate domn... ma tem ca e o incurcatura de amploare, datorata unei amestecaturi de neintelegeri care eronat au combinat o falsa idee...
Alo... ce vechiul regim comunist? Ia mai dati o raita si cititi mesajul meu... vorbesc eu de asa ceva? Se intelege pe undeva asa ceva? Dumneavoastra v-ati exprimat scirba ca ce mama ei de natie toti pleaca si toti injura si toti se scirbesc si eu mi-am exprimat dorinta sa va arat cam ce inseamna disperare si tragedie si cam ce nu se vede pe fereastra gipanului cind pleaca omu` de la discoteca bine dispus...
Din pacate, piese stricate ale vechiului regim nu am... am ale noului regim... asa ca nu remodelati structura stomacului, eu ma referam la un schimb de idei, nu de impresii sau considerente stomacale.
Va aruncasem o parima dar a scapat.
Din pacate discutia asta cu o asa lipsa de argumente seamana cu bancul:

Un vapor strainez se apropie de cheu pentru acostare.
Langa babale, doi veterani asteapta fumind linistiti parimele.
Pe teuga, doi mermenghezi privesc impasibili.
Vasul se apropie periculos, paramele, canci!
Veteranii incep sa se inpacienteze , si baga un dialog:
- Bah! Arunca bah parama!
- What?
- Parama, bah neamu`, , paramaaaa! arunc-o incoa` !!
- What?
- Bah ciutane, mermenghezu`, arunca mai parama!!!
- What?
- Do you speak english ?
- Oh,yes my friend!
- Atunci arunca dracu` parama aia!!!

Cam asta e cu "piesele stricate ale vechiului regim comunist".
Fiecare pe limba lui...
Scepticism?
Ia mergeti la o judecatorie de sector si stato fo patru ore si faceti p`orma aici o compunere libera de o mie de cuvinte cu detalii pe tema optimismului si a dreptei justitii... p`orma, daca e ok ce citim, veniti si cu mine.
Asteptam parima... aaa... scuzati, asteptam lectura.
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Romanian sau Roumanian - de (anonim) la: 02/04/2004 02:11:21
(la: Jena de a fi roman? - Andrei Vartic)
Sa trecem la spelling ( in English ).
In limba Engleza, , Romani, Romania a fost scris ( spelled ), Roumanian, Roumania. Au venit destepti de Romani din SUA, de la diferite Organizatii Bisericesti Ortodoxe si au comentat tot timpul scrisul ( spelling-ul ) Romaniei in limba Engleza, la diferite forume, reviste si ziare in U.S.A.,
Romania sa fie scris cu "O " si nu cu "OU ", ca numele se trage din Roma si corect este Romania si Romanian. In British English scrisul ( spelling-ul )a ramas Roumanian si Roumania. In limba Franceza este scris tot cu "OU "
In anii 50 si 60, Romania se scria Rominia in Romania.
Tzigani se numesc " Roma " in toate limbile mai circulate ( Engleza, Germana, Franceza, etc. ), si nu " RRoma ", ( care pentru mine este un cuvint nou in limba Romana ), n-am auzit de acest cuvint cind locuiam in Romania.
Tu, ce vrei de la Americani?... Sa treaca napoi la Spelling-ul : Roumania, sau sa schimbe denumirea "TZIGANULUI" din "Roma" in "RRoma", cum folosesc in ultimul timp Romanii.

"Quo vadis Domine", tradus "Incotro Domnule" ( nu stiu daca ai studiat Latina ) de acea ti-am tradus.

Salutari de la un Refugiat Politic: Stettin Danziger von Bresslau.
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Pentru Paianjenul - de Florin si atat la: 17/04/2004 16:52:18
(la: Steagul romanesc pus in discutie)
Mai intii, cerindu-mi scuze gazdei, mi-as permite sa-ti raspund ca intrebarea despre rasism.

Copy mai jos definitiile rasismului din trei carti de referinta:

Doctrine advocating the superiority of one human race. Racism has been the avowed policy of certain regimes that, as a result, sanctioned slavery and discriminatory practices, such as the anti-Semitism in Nazi Germany and the apartheid system in South ...
(From World Encyclopedia in Encyclopedia)

the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race.
(From The Concise Oxford Dictionary in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)

racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry; anti-Semitism.
(From The Oxford Paperback Thesaurus in English Dictionaries & Thesauruses)

Asa ca, avind in vedere definitiile de mai sus, as spune ca urmatoarele afirmatii din banc sint/ ar fii un atac rasist:

1. …ca ar fi timpul ca si tiganii sa aiba o patrie a lor…
2. CIOARA - natia
3. VIOARA - ocupatia
4. CACATUL - situatia

Din pacate nu am dictionar romanesc sa vad daca imi dau dreptate.

Acum sa ne intoarcem la filfiirea drapelelor...:)

Multumesc pentru scurta istorie a Ciadului. Insa nu ma convinge...:) Nu cred ca Romania este 'responsabila' de nimic.
Tot ce am vrut eu sa spun este ca prea mult zgomot se face in ziare pentru nimic. Si daca ,Sus pusii, Romaniei 'au singe' ar ignora ce le spune ONU. Sint multe lucruri mai importante pe care altii nu le respecta.

Numai bine
Florin si atat
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Veste importanta din Franta - de Dinu Lazar la: 22/05/2004 15:07:17
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Scrie un fotograf din Franta:

For those who intend to photography in France (you know the place where people have so exotic names, according to B. Yarvin) we have good news .
The cour de Cassation (our Supreme Court) has just stated a decision which largely is in favour of the photographers . I quote verbatim :
"le propriétaire d'un bien n'est pas le propriétaire exclusif de l'image de celui-ci" . Translation in my bad english : the owner of goods is not the exclusive owner of the image of these goods . The jurisprudence is so clear now that we can shoot buildings, houses and so on whithout fearing to loose in Court . There is one condition of course : not to be detrimental to the owner, by giving his adress for instance
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No!It's not your imagination!Pt. LMC - de Little Eagle la: 22/06/2004 21:04:56
(la: APELEZ LA MINTILE SI INIMILE ROMANE)
Dear sister,

I wish I could write you in english,but...avand poate mai multe de spus,sa scriu un text complet in engleza,as risca sa nu fie publicat de Admin(a.k.a Daniel).
Nu, imaginatia ta nu a luat-o deloc razna.
Nu stiu de ce te-ai mira?Si nu crede ca ar fi o iluzie ca putem sa avem uneori un numitor comun in subiectele din cafenea(cerc,cum il numesc eu).

Eu personal nu am nimic impotriva nimanui,pe toti din cerc ii consider fratii si surorile mele,a avea unele discutii contradictorii uneori eu zic ca e bine pt. fiecare,caci invatam mereu cate ceva de la unii la altii.
A critica cu rautate asta nu accept,sa zicem ca-mi spun parerea la o tematica si apoi sunt pus la zid si criticat,accept asta dar sa fie ceva constructiv,nu de dragul de a ma lovi cu cuvinte rele,inseamna lasitate in ochii mei si la fel nesinceritate si m-as simti trist,pt. ca eu te iubesc(generally speaking)si sunt onest cu tine,dar tu ma injuri pe la spate.
Si chiar daca faci asta eu tot te voi iubi.Nu-mi pot ura fratele sau sora.

Asa am fost crescut sa gandesc de fratii mei indieni.
Odata cu zile in urma am scris cum este ritualul indian de discutii,pe stilul traditional vechi.Toti stau in cerc turceste si fiecare vorbeste pe rand tot ce are pe suflet si cu sinceritate si fara rusine chiar discutand anume intimitati sexuale.Este un cleansing al sufletului,o purificare.
Asa am gandit si eu ca trebuie sa fiu si in cafenea si desigur ca ai citit destule ce am scris despre viata mea,inclusiv cea sexuala si nu imi este rusine deloc de trecutul meu.

Uneori,I'm tesing some brothers&sisters and I did it with you too,so please forgive me,dar nu cu intentii rele ci asa cum fratii si surorile au felul lor de a se purta unii cu altii,tu stii bine avand 2 frati.
De ce oare nu am avea unele lucruri in comun?De ce ar fi atat de surrealist?
Eu inca de mic copil am fost prieten cu tot soiul de oameni,si nici mai tarziu nu mi-a cazut nasul,eu consider pe toti ca au ceva bun in ei,chiar si cei considerati rai.
Am fost cu hotii,cu batausii,cu vagabonzii,eu insumi la un moment dat am fost ca ei,dar am fost si cu intelectuali,oameni f. educati,am intrat in cocioabe de o camera in care traiau mama+tata+fiica la un loc...si fost in super vile cu 3-4 etaje
si lift interior.Am condus trabant dar condus si Porsche,uneori am fost f. sarac alteori plin de bani de dadeam in stanga si dreapta si nu-mi pasa.

Am avut sex cu prostituate si call girls de lux dar si cu manechine de mode sau fete obisnuite si modeste dar crede-ma ca niciodata nu am avut femei care sa nu arate f. bine,asa mi-a fost soarta si pe undeva sarmul ce am avut in tinereti.
Am vrut mereu sa cunosc cat mai multe din viata,orice,citind romane de scriitori mari,ori carti de filosofie,dar uneori si citind rahaturi politiste,pt. ca mintea are nevoie de o relaxare,de ceva stupid,altfel inebunesti.

E la fel si cu filmele,nu mereu vei vedea filme de avangarda sofisticate si filosofice,franceze,ori italiene etc.Uneori te uiti si la ceva usor sa te deconectezi sa nu ceara sa-ti folosesti mintea prea mult.
Nu-mi plac acei oameni care se cred sofisticati si ..intelectuali,se mint pe ei insisi.
La fel am facut si cu religia.De ce sa ma ancorez doar intr-una?Sunt atatea credinte in lume de studiat si toate in final spun acelasi adevar unic.Ca unele popoare il vad pe Dumnezeu ca Rama sau Krishna sau Allah sau Abraham sau Jesus sau Zoroaster ori Meher Baba,pt. mine toti sunt acelasi Dumnezeu cu nume diferite.La fel Great Spirit numit de indieni sau Wakan Tanka(in limbajul Lakota).

Mereu am fost avid de cunoastere si am citit destule si uneori chiar participat la unele ceremonii indiene,sa vad cum se fac si cum cred acei oameni(vorbesc de indieni din India),am studiat si Tantra si apoi studiat orice despre Diavol pt. ca trebuia sa cunosc cat mai multe.
Credinta ce am in Dumnezeu e de neclintit,dar nu am fugit sau mi-a fost teama sa studiez black magic si sa cunosc cativa satanisti in shop-urile lor din Manhattan pline de skulls,lumanari negre,pentagrame etc. Chiar am avut sex cu o fata ce lucra la un astfel de shop,mereu imbracata in negru si unghii negre ruj pe buze negru,dar atat de frumoasa ca nu-mi venea sa cred ca statea deasupra mea si picura ceara de la lumanare pe pieptul meu,f f.f. focoasa.

Dar a stiut ca nu-s material pt. secta lor,asa ca n-a durat decat poate 2-3 luni relatia dar sex..in prostie si f. bun!
Am vrut sa stiu cat mai multe,nu am avut sex cu barbati...as fi vrut din curiozitate,am cunoscut si avut multi prieteni gay,mi-a fost teama de aids,deh odata in viata am fost las.

Vezi Magdalena cum am fost demult?Asa mi-a fost scris de soarta.
hai sa-ti zic una interesanta,numele fiind o simpla coincidenta.
Cand aveam 7 ani dormeam in pat noptile cu ...o papusa si o numisem...Magdalena...Alti baieti dormeau cu ursuleti,eu cu...o papusa!!!
Dar zic sa inchei aici deocamdata,vezi insa ca asa sunt eu,spun adevarul si nu-mi e rusine de nimic.
And don't worry,you're not alone.

Te sarut mult de pe cealalta coasta,
Love&peace,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)
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"Love is something you and I must have.We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it.We must have it because without it we become weak and faint.Without love our self-esteem weakens.Without it our courage fails.Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world.We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities,and little by little we destroy ourselves.
With it we are creative.With it we march tirelessly.With it,and with it alone,we are able to sacrifice for others."

Chief Dan George












































































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. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

oed jew | more
Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Quadrophenia - de Little Eagle la: 05/07/2004 02:05:09
(la: Vreti sa se intoarca Ozzy la cafeneaua.com?)
Un f. bun amic si suflet cum rar gasesti in lume,a scris aceste cuvinte si cantec,numele lui este Pete Townshend,versurile lui vor spune exact TOTUL:

THE DIRTY JOB

"I am a man who looks after the pigs,
Usually I get along okay.
I am a man who reveals what he digs,
Should be more careful what I say.

I'm getting put down
I'm getting pushed round,
I'm being beaten every day...
My life's fading
But things are changing,
I'm not gonna sit and weep again...

I am a man who drives a local bus
I take miners to work but the pits are closed today,
It's easy to see that you are one of us
Ain't it funny how we all seem to look the same????...

We're getting put down...etc

My Karma tells me
You've been screwed again
If you let them do it to you
You've got yourself to blame
It's you who feels the pain,
It's you who feels ashamed...

I am a young man
I ain't done very much,
You men should remember how you used to fight.
Just like a child,I've been seeing only dreams
I'm all mixed up but I know what's right,

I'm getting put down,etc

Love &peace,
Ozzy
................................
Pete Townshend-lyrics,songs+guitars
Roger Daltrey-Vocals
John Entwistle-Bass,english horn
Mooney,adica....Keith Moon-drums.....daca real vreti sa aveti o idee cum sunt....ca personalitate si ca om...sunt o combinatie intre,Ozzy,Jim Morrison,Robert Plant si ....DILIUL de Mooney.......HA!See you in another life boys&girls,LOVE YOU EVEN AFTER DEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I worship all of you!!!MY brothers&sisters,nu stiti cat va iubesc....












.....................................................
Who are the WHO????:

Pete Townshend-Guitars + ALL compositions,ALL songs written by him+lyrics
John Enthwistle-bass
Roger Daltrey-Vocals
Keith Moon,Mooney..........a great guy.....-drums,God bless his soul.
.......................................................................................................................
LOVE &PEACE,
Ozzy







































Ce zici de putina limba roman - de Coca Aimee la: 29/07/2004 01:06:52
(la: Cum va simtiti cand va intoarceti in Romania ?)
Ce zici de putina limba romana (includ si gramatica, se intelege)?
Esti certat rau cu ea?
Cu "american-english" cum stai?
Crezi ca cei de aici nu isi fac o parere din modul cum vorbim si ce vorbim?
Numai ca cei de aici sunt ceva mai diplomati si nu te fac sa intelegi ce gandesc.
Ma feresc sa te intreb ce "job" ai aici ... dar imi imaginez, dupa modul tau de exprimare.
Nicaieri asemenea vocabular nu e apreciat :aici, acolo ... as avea multe de spus ... sunt si eu de foarte mult timp pe aceste meleaguri ... dar ...
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Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908 – 2004), fotograf - OMAGIU - de ovidiusimina la: 11/08/2004 10:54:33
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
« Au fond, ce n’est pas la photo en soi qui
m’interesse. Ce qui je veux c’est de capter une
fraction de seconde du réel »

Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908 – 2004)
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Kingdoms of the world in a moment

Aug 5th 2004, From The Economist print edition
http://www.economist.com/cities/displaystory.cfm?story_id=3071607

Henri Cartier-Bresson, whose photographs defined the
20th century, died on August 3rd at the age of 95

ALTHOUGH his name was familiar almost everywhere, far
more so indeed than his work, Henri Cartier-Bresson
himself was not a familiar sight. With his alert blue
eyes and a coloured handkerchief knotted round his
neck, he would wander the streets near his home on
Paris's rue de Rivoli and seldom be recognised. One of
the greatest photographers of the 20th century was
himself rarely photographed.

In his lifetime, he travelled to all corners of the
earth, capturing images of some of the most
extraordinary moments of 20th-century history—the
Spanish civil war, the liberation of Paris after the
second world war and the funeral of Mahatma Gandhi. At
the same time he framed and preserved less famous
moments, elevating them with his genius so that they
somehow seemed to capture the essence of life itself.

His unequalled ability to seize a millisecond in time
was uncanny. In his book “The Decisive Moment”,
published in 1952, he wrote: “It is the simultaneous
recognition, in a fraction of a second, of the
significance of an event as well as a precise
organisation of forms, which give that event its
proper expression.” He was never very interested in
the technology of photography, in the effects that
could be obtained during developing and editing in a
dark room. It was all about the thrill of the chase,
the chance to seize a moment.

The man who first inspired Mr Cartier-Bresson was a
photographer called Martin Munkacsi, whose picture of
naked African boys running into Lake Tanganyika in
1931 persuaded him to take photography seriously. “I
couldn't believe that such a thing could be caught on
camera,” he said, “so I grabbed my Leica and went out
into the street.”

Between 1932 and 1935, he lived rough in Italy, Mexico
and Spain where he took some of his most memorable
images. Back in Paris he worked with Jean Renoir, a
film director, and ended up playing the unlikely role
of an English servant in the director's masterpiece,
“La Règle du Jeu”. He was a prisoner-of-war for three
years, and after the war was one of the founders of
the Magnum agency, a trail-blazing photographers'
co-operative. In 1948 he went on the road again,
mostly to India and China (in time for the fall of
Chiang Kai-shek), in an age when the images of
photojournalists like him filled the pages of picture
magazines that were, in the pre-television era,
hungrily viewed by millions.

Unassuming genius
For the last quarter of a century, Mr Cartier-Bresson
eschewed photography, taking only the occasional
snapshot of friends and family, and turning his
attention to drawing. (He trained originally as a
painter, his early work influenced by his friend, the
surrealist artist Max Ernst.) He maintained that he
scarcely wanted to discuss photography any more. “It's
like when you're divorced”, he said, “and people keep
asking about your former wife. There's something
indecent about it.”

He settled into a quiet life in France—in Paris and in
the small house that he owned for some 30 years in the
Lubéron, a region in the south of the country, to the
east of Avignon. And there he died on Tuesday August
3rd, just less than three weeks away from his 96th
birthday.

Mr Cartier-Bresson always said that to be a great
photographer you had to be unintrusive. “For me,
photography is very much a physical pleasure—it's like
hunting, except that we don't kill.” At the height of
his career he would stalk his subjects, and his quarry
would often be unaware that it had been captured on
film. His desire to remain out of the limelight stayed
with him to the end, including his wish to hold back
the world's photographers from the funeral of one of
the greatest of them.

His funeral was a private affair attended by some 50
family and close friends. Only after it had ended did
the French Ministry of Culture make an official
announcement of his death. And the next day, August
5th, many of his most famous images were splashed
across the front pages of newspapers the world over: a
woman slapping an informer she recognises at a
deportation camp in Dessau in 1945; Muslim women in
Srinagar, Kashmir, praying to the sun as it rises over
the distant Himalayas; and a French family picnicking
by the River Marne in 1938, almost a last pre-war
moment of stillness.

Of Mr Cartier-Bresson's death, President Jacques
Chirac said: “With him, France loses a genius
photographer, a true master, and one of the most
gifted artists of his generation.” But it is not only
France's loss. Mr Cartier-Bresson's fame, which grew
despite his efforts to avoid it, reminds a much wider
world of its persistent admiration for unassuming
genius, and of the dwindling stock of targets for that
admiration.

================================================

La famille d'Henri Cartier-Bresson, la Fondation Henri
Cartier-Bresson, les photographes et l'équipe de
Magnum Photos ont la tristesse de vous annoncer le
décès d'Henri Cartier-Bresson le 3 Août à 9h30 dans sa
maison du Luberon.Les obsèques ont eu lieu dans la
plus grande intimité. Un hommage sera organisé à sa
mémoire début septembre.
================================================

Mai multe informatii referitoare la persoanlitatea si opera lui Henri Cartier-Bresson puteti gasi pe site-ul MAGNUM Agency, fondata de HCB. Adresa este http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/ , asa cum s-a mai spus pe acest forum de discutii. Intr-adevar, acolo putem vedea cu totii niste fotografii. Adevarate...

din Bucuresti, un biet ucenic intr-ale fotografiei, Ovidiu SIMINA
11/08/2004
Pentru cei care citesc Engleza - de LMC la: 02/09/2004 01:20:55
(la: Cum sa devii un liberal de nota 10!)
Dupa cum multi dintre voi stiti saptamina asta se desfasoara conventia partidului Republican. Aseara Arnold Schwarzenegger a vorbit, iar astazi toate programele de radio si televizor si toate ziarele sau concentrat asupra speech-ului lui Arnold. Cei care doresc sa afle ce a spus mai jos puteti citi speech-ul lui. Tot aici puteti afla cine sint Republicanii si care este platforma partidului Republican. Citire placuta.

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Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger

Thank you.

What a greeting! This is like winning an Oscar! ...As if I would know!

Speaking of acting, one of my movies was called "True Lies." It's what the Democrats should have called their convention.

My fellow Americans, this is an amazing moment for me. To think that a once-scrawny boy from Austria could grow up to become Governor of California and stand in Madison Square Garden to speak on behalf of the President of the United States that is an immigrant's dream. It is the American dream.

I was born in Europe ...and I've traveled all over the world. I can tell you that there is no place, no country, more compassionate more generous more accepting and more welcoming than the United States of America.

As long as I live, I will never forget that day 21 years ago when I raised my hand and took the oath of citizenship.

Do you know how proud I was? I was so proud that I walked around with an American flag around my shoulders all day long.

Tonight, I want to talk about why I'm even more proud to be an American -why I'm proud to be a Republican and why I believe this country is in good hands.

When I was a boy, the Soviets occupied part of Austria. I saw their tanks in the streets .I saw communism with my own eyes. I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector. Growing up, we were told, "Don't look the soldiers in the eye. Look straight ahead." It was a common belief that Soviet soldiers could take a man out of his own car and ship him off to the Soviet Union as slave labor.

My family didn't have a car -- but one day we were in my uncle's car. It was near dark as we came to a Soviet checkpoint. I was a little boy, I wasn't an action hero back then, and I remember how scared I was that the soldiers would pull my father or my uncle out of the car, and I'd never see him again. My family and so many others lived in fear of the Soviet boot. Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union and it is because of the United States of America!

As a kid I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left. I love Austria and I love the Austrian people - but I always knew America was the place for me.

In school, when the teacher would talk about America, I would daydream about coming here. I would sit for hours watching American movies transfixed by my heroes like John Wayne. Everything about America seemed so big to me so open, so possible.

I finally arrived here in 1968.I had empty pockets, but I was full of dreams. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon and Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend who spoke German and English, translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism which is what I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting government off your back, lowering taxes, and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air.

I said to my friend, "What party is he?" My friend said, "He's a Republican." I said, "Then I am a Republican!" And I've been a Republican ever since! And trust me, in my wife's family, that's no small achievement! I'm proud to belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln, the party of Teddy Roosevelt, the party of Ronald Reagan and the party of George W. Bush.

To my fellow immigrants listening tonight, I want you to know how welcome you are in this party. We Republicans admire your ambition. We encourage your dreams. We believe in your future. One thing I learned about America is that if you work hard and play by the rules, this country is truly open to you. You can achieve anything.

Everything I have my career my success my family I owe to America. In this country, it doesn't make any difference where you were born. It doesn't make any difference who your parents were. It doesn't make any difference if, like me, you couldn't even speak English until you were in your twenties.

America gave me opportunities, and my immigrant dreams came true. I want other people to get the same chances I did, the same opportunities. And I believe they can. That's why I believe in this country, that's why I believe in this party and that's why I believe in this President.

Now, many of you out there tonight are "Republican" like me in your hearts and in your beliefs. Maybe you're from Guatemala. Maybe you're from the Philippines. Maybe Europe or the Ivory Coast. Maybe you live in Ohio Pennsylvania or New Mexico. And maybe just maybe you don't agree with this party on every single issue. I say to you tonight I believe that's not only okay that's what's great about this country. Here

we can respectfully disagree and still be patriotic still be American and still be good Republicans

My fellow immigrants, my fellow Americans how do you know if you are a Republican? I'll tell you how.

If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government...then you are a Republican! If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group... then you are a Republican! If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does... then you are a Republican! If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children ... then you are a Republican! If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope of democracy in the world ... then you are a Republican! And, ladies and gentlemen ...if you believe we must be fierce and relentless and terminate terrorism ... then you are a Republican!

There is another way you can tell you're a Republican. You have faith in free enterprise, faith in the resourcefulness of the American people ...and faith in the U.S. economy. To those critics who are so pessimistic about our economy, I say: Don't be economic girlie men!

The U.S. economy remains the envy of the world. We have the highest economic growth of any of the world's major industrialized nations. Don't you remember the pessimism of twenty years ago when the critics said Japan and Germany were overtaking the U.S.? Ridiculous!

Now they say India and China are overtaking us. Don't you believe it! We may hit a few BUMPS -- but America always moves ahead! That's what Americans do!

We move prosperity ahead. We move freedom ahead. We move people ahead. Under President Bush, and Vice President Cheney, America's economy is moving ahead in spite of a recession they inherited and in spite of the attack on our homeland.

Now, the other party says there are two Americas. Don't believe that either. I've visited our troops in Iraq, Kuwait, Bosnia, Germany, and all over the world. I've visited our troops in California, where they train before they go overseas. And I've visited our military hospitals. And I can tell you this: Our young men and women in uniform do not believe there are two Americas!

They believe we are one America and they are fighting for it! We are one America - and President Bush is defending it with all his heart and soul!

That's what I admire most about the President. He's a man of perseverance.

He's a man of inner strength. He is a leader who doesn't flinch, doesn't waiver, does not back down. My fellow Americans, make no mistake about it terrorism is more insidious than communism, because it yearns to destroy not just the individual but the entire international order.

The President didn't go into Iraq because the polls told him it was popular. As a matter of fact, the polls said just the opposite. But leadership isn't about polls. It's about making decisions you think are right and then standing behind those decisions. That's why America is safer with George W. Bush as President.

He knows you don't reason with terrorists. You defeat them. He knows you can't reason with people blinded by hate. They hate the power of the individual. They hate the progress of women. They hate the religious freedom of others. They hate the liberating breeze of democracy. But, ladies and gentlemen, their hate is no match for America's decency.

We're the America that sends out Peace Corps volunteers to teach village children.

We're the America that sends out missionaries and doctors to raise up the poor and the sick. We're the America that gives more than any other country, to fight AIDS in Africa and the developing world. And we're the America that fights not for imperialism but for human rights and democracy.

You know, When the Germans brought down the Berlin Wall America's determination helped wield the sledgehammers. When that lone, young Chinese man stood in front of those tanks in Tiananmen Square America's hopes stood with him. And when

Nelson Mandela smiled in election victory after all those years in prison America celebrated, too.

We are still the lamp lighting the world especially for those who struggle. No matter in what labor camp they slave no matter in what injustice they're trapped -- they hear our call ... they see our light ... and they feel the pull of our freedom. They come here as I did because they believe. They believe in US.

They come because their hearts say to them, as mine did, "If only I can get to America." Someone once wrote -"There are those who say that freedom is nothing but a dream." They are right. It's the American dream.

No matter the nationality, no matter the religion, no matter the ethnic background, America brings out the best in people. And as Governor of the great state of California -- I see the best in Americans every day ... our police, our firefighters our nurses, doctors and teachers our parents.

And what about the extraordinary men and women who have volunteered to fight for the United States of America! I have such great respect for them and their heroic families.

Let me tell you about the sacrifice and commitment I've seen firsthand. In one of the military hospitals I visited, I met a young guy who was in bad shape. He'd lost a leg had a hole in his stomach ... his shoulder had been shot through.

I could tell there was no way he could ever return to combat. But when I asked him, "When do you think you'll get out of the hospital?" He said, "Sir, in three weeks." And do you know what he said to me then? He said he was going to get a new leg ... and get some therapy ... and then he was going back to Iraq to serve alongside his buddies! He grinned at me and said, "Arnold ... I'll be back!"

Ladies and gentlemen, America is back! back from the attack on our homeland- back from the attack on our economy back from the attack on our way of life. We're back because of the perseverance, character and leadership of the 43rd President of the United States George W. Bush.

My fellow Americans ...I want you to know that I believe with all my heart that America remains "the great idea" that inspires the world. It's a privilege to be born here. It's an honor to become a citizen here. It's a gift to raise your family here to vote here and to live here.

Our president George W. Bush has worked hard to protect and preserve the American dream for all of us. That's why I say ... send - him - back to Washington for four more years!

Thank you, America -- and God bless you all!
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engleza - de Eda la: 10/09/2004 23:19:57
(la: Test de limba engleza.)
Pt. cei care stiu engleza (sau asa cred ei). Nu consider ca sunt experta dar ma descurc destul de bine. Chiar am primit complimente. In schimb cei mai prosti vorbitori de engleza sunt turcii (din cate stiu eu), din cauza ca nu pot pronunta consoanele una dupa alta. Va dati seama ce iese...
In ceea ce ma priveste filmele si cantecele in engleza au avut o foarte mare influenta, incercam sa imit felul in care spuneau cuvintele si in final am invatat mai multa engleza de la televizor decat din scoala, nici nu mai urmaream subtitrarea. Alt atu este faptul ca chiar imi place engleza.

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak; Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant, Shoes, goes, does.
Now first say finger, And then singer, ginger, linger, Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge, Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
Liberty, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and Arkansas.
Sea, idea, Korea, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean. Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale, Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough? Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!
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Inapoi la tema - de Vlad L la: 17/11/2004 22:23:20
(la: Nasterea din fecioara, demonstrata stiintific ca posibila)
Revenind la ideea originala a forumului, am gasit trei articole mai cuprinzatoare, pentru cine are cunostinte de engleza si rabdarea sa urmareasca detalii medicale:



http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994909

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0004119C-D4C6-1086-94C683414B7F0000

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200404/200404220032.html



Fiind printre altele si medic, mi se pare distractiv faptul ca echipa de cercetatori japonezi si coreeni au trebuit sa modifice zdravan ADN-ul soarecilor femela de la care s-au prelevat ovulele, pentru a implanta apoi 343 de oua, din care au ajuns la termen 8, din care au supravietuit doua.



Asta imi aduce aminte de bancul cu domnisoara care exclama indignata: "Vai, papusa asta costa mai mult decat un copil!" La care vanzatorul: "Da, dar si procesul de fabricatie e mult mai complicat."


Concluzia ar fi ca ideea originala ("este perfect posibil ca un mamifer sa se nasca fara fecundarea de catre elementul masculin") este foarte departe de adevar.


De asemenea ma "distreaza" polemica crestino-mozaica ce s-a starnit, privind virginitatea Maicii Domnului, de parca Dumnezeu ar fi avut nevoie de un laborator pentru a face minuni. Asta lasand la o parte faptul ca prin partenogeneza se pot naste NUMAI femele, niciodata masculi. Iar daca despre divinitatea sau umanitatea lui Iisus mai exista discutii, ca ar fi fost barbat nu cred ca s-a indoit cineva.


Privind acuzatia de deicid adusa evreilor, mi se pare absurda, desi sunt crestin (ortodox, cu influente catolice, pentru cine intereseaza). Nu poti omori un zeu nemuritor. Din cate stiu, teologia ortodoxa si cea catolica sunt de acord ca pe cruce a murit partea umana a lui Iisus, nu cea divina. Si chiar acceptand (printr-o generalizare ce nu mi se pare de bun augur) ca intreg poporul evreu s-ar face vinovat de crucificarea lui Iisus, suferintele individuale si colective suferite de evrei au spalat inzecit aceasta vina, cel putin din punct de vedere al judecatii oamenilor. Restul e treaba lui Dumnezeu.


Nu pot accepta insa nici ideea conform careia crestinii ar fi vinovati de ce au patimit evreii. Dumnezeu ne judeca individual, nu pausal. Cine generalizeaza trebuie sa ia bine aminte ca oricand poate fi inclus la randu-i intr-o gramada care sa nu-i convina (vezi ideile de genul "romanii sunt toti niste hoti", "romanii sunt o natie de tigani" etc.)



In rest, mult respect.


Vlad


L'amour a des raisons que la raison ne connaît pas. (Blaise Pascal)
. - de ikoflexer la: 23/11/2004 20:29:19
(la: SUNTEM NOI O COMUNITATE?)
Un lucru care m-a deranjat despre acest chestionar este ca d-ta ai presupus de la inceput ca anonimitatea subiectelor nu are nici o valoare. Adica nici macar nu ai incercat sa obtii aceasta informatie in mod anonim. Virsta, sex, localizare, ocupatie, firma, nivel de educatie,... cam toate intra in categoria de "informatii personale." Noi nu stim cine esti d-ta si in ce fel te vei folosi de aceasta informatie. Nu sint paranoid de felul meu, dar nici nu am obiceiul de a-mi divulga datele personale la oricine intreaba be internet.

Al doilea aspect urmeaza: opinia mea e ca astfel de informatie nu ajuta in a decide daca sintem o comunitate. De fapt mi se pare foarte clar ca sintem o comunitate. Citez din Oxford English Dictionary: "o comunitate e un grup de oameni organizati intr-o unitate politica, civica, sau sociala." Prin simplul fapt ca schimbam idei in mod regular, atit timp cit sintem parte din acest proces, sintem organizati intr-o unitate sociala. Nu cred ca in ziua de astazi se face mare diferenta intre faptul ca este o unitate sociala virtuala in loc de una localizata geografic necesitind prezenta fizica.

Al treilea aspect este ca adevarata intrebare pentru care d-ta ai dori un raspuns este "ce fel de comunitate formam noi aici?" Si asta nu e o intrebare usoara de raspuns. O fateta a comunitatii asteia este caracterizarea fizica/personala a participantilor; fateta asta poate fi dezvaluita prin raspunsuri la chestionarul pe care il sugerezi. Dar mai sint alte fatete: politica (ce procentaj de utilizatori e de stinga, dreapta, centru), economic (citi la % sint (relativ cu societatea in care traim) saraci, bogati, middle class, samd), etc. Pot sa continui, dar cred ca-i prins spilu' deja.

Te aplaud ca incerci sa cunosti mai mult despre cei cu care te "inhaitezi" pe cafenea, dar sint si alte modalitati in care se poate face, daca chestia cu chestionarul nu reuseste. De exemplul, prin a participa intr-o varietate discutii aici pe cafenea vei afla multe despre ceilalti utilizatori. Dezavantajul acestei modalitati este timpul investit in process (desi acest timp este investit oricum din moment ce--se pare ca--esti o utilizatoare activa), si faptul ca nu vei afla nimic despre cei care citesc dar nu participa in mod activ la discutii. Despre acest grup de inactivi numai chestionarul ar folosi, desi nu stiu cit de bine.

Daca chiar esti d-ta hotarita sa obtii aceste informatii, as sugera sa deschizi mai multe sondaje si sa inviti pe toti sa voteze. De exemplu:
Sondaj #1: Virsta (ani)
a) Intre 15-20
b) Intre 20-30
c) Intre 30-40
d) Peste 40
Sondaj #2: Profesia
a) IT
b) Miner
c) Mechanic
d) Frecator de "Mentha spicata"
...
Sondaj #3: Educatie
a) Gradinita
b) Scoala primara
c) Liceu
d) Studii universitare
e) Masterat
f) Doctorat

Astfel anonimitatea e garantata si resultatele sint publice.

Cu toate ca eu personal nu iti impartasesc curiozitatea pe acest subiect, iti doresc succes.
--ikoflexer
"sufletul o fi nemuritor si vesnic(ceea ce e un pleonasm)"athos, - de DESTIN la: 15/01/2005 18:40:39
(la: SUFLETUL ESTE NEMURITOR)

Daca tu numesti pleonasm...unde incadrezi mai precis acasta idee?

PLEONASM [16c: from Latin pleonasmus, Greek Pleonasmós ('more-ness') excess, redundancy].
A traditional term for the use of more words than necessary, either for effect, or more usually as a fault of style, and any instance of that use, as in: Could you repeat that again? rather than Could you say that again? or Could you repeat that?; They both got one each rather than


They both got one or They got one each; That's a more superior product (superior already denotes 'more'); It's a really new innovation (an innovation is already new).
Some common pleonasms attract little comment, such as free gift (gifts are by definition free) and plans for the future (plans cannot be about the present or past).
Many famous writers have been pleonastic, including Shakespeare's double superlative 'The most unkindest cut of all' (Julius Caesar).

Bibliography:

1992 The Oxford Companion to the English Language.

Cu bine,

Cine se teme de suferinta...va suferi de teama.
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