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Eu nu asi mai reveni in RO, o - de sorin666 la: 07/02/2004 16:11:27
(la: Castigati 1 milion de euro. Ce veti alege: Romania sau occident?)
Eu nu asi mai reveni in RO, o dau draku' (pardon) si slana, si ceapa si minunata brinza facuta de ciobani nespalati ...
Astea sint reflexe de inadaptabil, care se duce in strainatate cu oala cu sarmale dupa el...
Si astiu ca scap de manele si mitocanie si fara sa-mi iau firma de gorile ...
#9113 (raspuns la: #8743) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
in sfarsit ti-ai dat arama pe - de kati la: 19/02/2004 07:23:03
(la: Cum sunt crescuti copiii de unele mame romance)
in sfarsit ti-ai dat arama pe fata. Eu am vorbit cu dvs iar TU m-ai luat la madam si "asa-ti trebe ca esti parinte".
Intrebare: mamicile noastre cand ne-au pus pe oala??? Si cine si-a dat cu caramida in cap??? la mine in familie - nimeni. Dar poate la altii, ca se vad si efectele:)))
Actorul James Caviezel - de For Future la: 24/02/2004 19:14:47
(la: "The Passion of the Christ",un succes de casa inainte de lansare)
Comentarile din Evenimentul zilei cu privire la filmul “The Passion of the Christ” sunt in mare parte la obiect, la zi si adevarate.
Intr-adevar, noul film al lui Mel Gibson, nu ii mai spun toate ipostazele pe care ni le-a aratat in lunga s-a cariera, a stirnit o foarte mare polemica pe continetul American si nu numai. Evident parerile sunt pro si contra. Va ramine ca ziua de miine 25 februarie sa confirme sau sa infirme sa zicem aceasta furtuna.
Cer permisiunea de a comenta doar un singur aspect expus de Evenimenutl zilei, respective acela ca filmul este “fara nici o vedeta cunoscuta”. Trebuie sa recunosc nu am citit ziarul asa ca am luat ca adevar ceea ce a scris dl. Racovitan.
Atributul de vedeta cunoscuta este subiectiv si se refera la o anumita persoana si la un anumit moment.
La momentul la care ne aflam sunt actori cunoscuti in intrega lume cun sunt si actori mai mult cunoscuti pe continetul american. Exista in schimb si multi actori in Asia in special in Hong-Kong care se dovedesc la fel de populari ca cele mai mari vedete de la Hollywood.
Ma voi referi in continuare la actorul american James Caviezel.
Intr-adevar nu este din punct de vedere al popularitatii la nivelul marilor vedete care au cistigat “lingura de lemn” cum este Silvester Stalone.
Totusi trebuie sa luam in consideratie faptul ca James Caviezel intepretul personajului “Jesus”din filmul amintit mai sus a jucat in nu mai putin de 20 de filme, ceea ce nu este de loc putin pentru un actor care va avea 36 de ani anul acesta in septembrie. Este sau nu vedeta ? Doar istoria cinematografiei va raspunde.
Imi voi pemite sa amintesc numai trei dintre personajele interpretate de acest actor in ultimul timp. Toate aceste roluri pun in valoare personalitatea deosebita a acestui actor care este dupa parerea mea de o sensibilitate iesita din comun.
In filmul “The Count of Monte Cristo” (2002) a fost Edmond Dantes/Count of Monte Cristo. Aceasta noua ecranizare dupa celebrul roman al lui Alexandre Dumas este complet diferita de precedentele versiuni in care au jucat cu nu mai putin ultra cunoscutii actori Richard Chamberlain, respective Gérard Depardieu. Interpretarea lui Caviezel in acest rol este este la fel de memorabila cu a celui care este supranumit de unii “Donné par de Dieu”, ma refer evident la Depardieu. Trebuie sa recunosc ca aceasta porecla daca o pot numi asa i se potriveste de minune marelui actor francez.
Un alt film in care calitatile sale actoricesti au fost puse in valoare este “Angel Eyes”(2001), pesonajul fiind Catch/Steven Lambert. Partenera lui James Caviezel in acest film este nu mai putin cunoscuta actrita Jennifer Lopez.
Nu in ultimul rind voi aminti de personajul episodic Jerry din filmul “Pay It Forward” (2000) in care James Caviezel a jucat alaturi de Kevin Spacey, Helen Hunt si nu in ultimul rind alaturi de Haley Joel Osment.
Nu imi permit sa fac profetii inaintea aparitiei acestui film dar este posibil ca anul viitor, in 2005 filmul “The Passion of the Christ” sa fie premiat cu Oscar si poate ca nu numai o singura data.
Si daca va fi asa ar fi foarte frumos si pentru noi, romanii, pentru ca va fi pentru prima oara cind o actrita romanca va pasii in glorie pe “covorul rosu” de la Hollywood. M-am referit evident la Maia Morgenstein care dupa acest film va fi in sfirsit recunoscuta in intreaga lume ca si de altfel si James Caviezel care nu este o mare vedeta dupa parerea unora in acest moment.
Mi-as mai permite o singura remerca in ceea ce priveste limbile in care a fost turnat filmul, latina si aramaica. Intr-adevar este neobisnuit pentru o productie cinematografica o astfel de alegere de a utiliza doua limbi considerate “moarte” dar vorbite in perioada la care filmul se refere. Astept cu neradare ziua de mine sa ma conving daca filmul va fi subtitrat sau nu in engleza. Daca nu, probabil il vom asculta la “casca” cum se mai obisnuiea pe vremeuri.
Va multumesc, si sper ca nu v-am deranjat prea mult cu comentarile mele.


. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Asia - de tmg la: 19/04/2005 00:37:34
(la: Cum va simtiti cand va intoarceti in Romania ?)
Citesc de vre-o doua ore forumul si observ atitudinea ta foarte buna. In special esenta acestui mesaj care este cat se poate de adevarata dar din pacate multi pleaca pentru "strazile mai curate", printre altele evident.

Si eu am plecat. Ma aflu in Filipine, m-am casatorit cu o Filipineza. Asia, atat cat am vazut aici, se potriveste bine de tot cu felul meu de a fi si de a gandi.

De cati ani esti in Australia? Eu sunt aici de aproape 6 luni, inca sunt "in lucru" pentru a rezolva cu imigrarea, dar nu cred ca vor fi probleme.

Cand am plecat din Romania cei care au aflat de plecarea mea s-au mirat pentru ca erau obisnuiti sa auda "plec in state" sau Canada ori Germania.

Mugurel.
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tmq - Asia - de Dr Evil la: 20/04/2005 10:16:34
(la: Cum va simtiti cand va intoarceti in Romania ?)
Salut Mugurel,

Eu sint in Australia de multi ani... 20+, am plecat din Romania pentru ca am avut o chemare foarte puternica pentru Asia si am considerat ca de aici este mai usor sa o vizitez. Am vizitat-o aproape in intregime cu bune si cu rele.
Filipinele sint fenomenale! Influenta Spaniola/Portugheza s-a amestecat grozav de bine cu cultura locala si a rezultat ceva miraculos.
Intradevar, cine nu cunoaste Asia s-ar putea sa se uite la tine cam in doi peri ca ai ales sa traiesti acolo... :-)

Iti doresc mult noroc,

Dr Evil
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asi vrea eu - de Horia D la: 02/09/2007 00:51:43
(la: Budism, forme de meditatie)
sa apara, dar cred ca e broke dupa divotz:)
si nu cred ca relatia cu shamandi a durat mai mult de cateva luni:)
Dar asta e parerea mea, s-ar putea sa gresesc, si relatia lor sa fi durat numai cateva saptamani:))
ce-asi vrea sa apara vulturasul pe aici. Ar fi tare interesant:)
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asia - without you ('82) - de Bucu la: 06/03/2011 22:44:05
(la: radio cafeneaua)
Mama moarta - de (anonim) la: 02/09/2003 17:46:51
(la: "Mama e moarta, hai in vacanta")
Ce rusine cind nu ai nimic in inima de gheata pentru cea care ti-a dat viata.....referitor la frantuzoiaca care si-a lasat mama moarta in apartament si a plecat in vacanta.
Francezii nu ma mai uimesc .
Reci si nemernici desi poate ca nu toti cu toata cultura lor, vad ca si-au dat arama pe fata recent in comentariile viitorului ambasador
francez in Israel,Dl-ul Araud, cind acesta la facut "lichea" pe Ariel Sharon.




Cazul copiilor seropozitivi - de (anonim) la: 23/09/2003 07:09:46
(la: Cazul copiilor seropozitivi de la Golesti.)
Este strict parerea mea. Ei nu au nici o vina ca sunt asa. Dar voi, ca parinti ai unui copil de 6 ani, care il dati la scoala sanatos, si se ia la bataie cu un copil seropozitiv, dintr-un oarecare motiv copilaresc si se taie amandoi? cam cum credeti ca a-si sta eu acasa ca parinte al unui copil sanatos? stiind ca el se poate rani in orice moment? are 6 ani, nu 26 sa stie sa-si poarte singur de grija. Eu nu mi-asi trmite copilul nici macar racit la scoala, ca sa nu-i imbolnavesc pe ceilalti. Asta e parerea mea si cand va implini copilul meu varsta scolii, sa fiti siguri ca nu voi tolera sa fie in aceeasi clasa cu un copil seropozitiv.Nu e ignoranta din partea mea sau pur si simplu ca as fi incuiata.Copii i-au primit bine pt. ca ei inca nu realizeaza ce e aia a te infesta cu acea boala si apoi a muri. Ei inca nu stiu notiunea de a muri.
Cu respect,
Mihaela Aldea
re: autosugestie - de papadie67 la: 29/09/2003 21:53:42
(la: Exista sfintenie fara Dumnezeu?)
welcome to the club.
sceptic, cinic & Co.

as fi bucuros sa-ti comentez intrabarea, dac-asi reusi sa-nteleg exact care este ea, relativ la subiectul acestui blog.

Cat despre canonizarea Maicii Teresa, precum si-a meritelor acestei decizii - in cadrul Bisericii Catolice - relativ la felul in care si-a organizat dumneaei activititatile, impletind (in mod caracteristic catolic: managerial si eficace, m-asi hazarda s-afirm ) sacrul si cotidianul...well, habar n-am.
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re: un forum ideal - de papadie67 la: 29/09/2003 22:42:50
(la: Un forum IDEAL !..)
"un filtru ideal nu are cenzura". Mais bien-sur que non!!!

Filtrul "de utilizator" din mesajul lui 'nine' imi pare apropiat de ideal. Nu definitiv ideal, deoarece nu lasa timp destul nou-venitului grobian din noi (mine) sa-si revizuiasca atitudinea si sa-si analizeze in consecinta (relativ la nivelul discutiilor/site-ului) comentariile, inainte de-a nimeri pe lista neagra a unor interlocutori potential de calitate.
Asi set-ui filtrul spre-al ignora numai pe grobianul dovedit, dupa regula: da cu bata-n balta de doua-trei ori, si m-am lamurit cu tine!
Ceea ce se realizeaza pe de alta parte oricum, in mod natural/desi mai greoi, fara interventie "de la centru". Adica boul se-autoexclude repejor...nu-l mai citesc, cu timpul, decat masochistii si nu-i mai raspund decat colegii.

Pe de alta parte, oarecum alaturi de subiect, pe-un site 'ideal' mi-ar place sa citesc comentariile la un subiect dat, in ordine cronologica. Cumva, mi-ar ajuta-n mentinerea 'firului rosu'. A fost cazu' nainte si pare-a nu mai fi acum.
Succes!
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Zile proaste.. - de papadie67 la: 30/09/2003 01:27:34
(la: Viata gay romaneasca)
..-avem cu to(n)tii.

Oarecum atins de grija-ti parinteasca pentru mine ( apropos...ai copii?), ma-ntorc - chiar si cu spatele - ca sa reiterez ce-am zis, si ca din nou sa zic ceeea ce-am zis mai deunazi, si-apoi de voi gasi fasole, multa, in ea s-o las, de tot si pt totdeauna:

-am un baiat
-de poponari mi-e mila, si-i tolerez ( e treaba lor), atata timp cat nu devin activi in a trezi-n baiatul meu un OBICEI pe care-l dezaprob.
-nu-mi pasa cum, de ce si cand au capatat ei acest obicei. Nu sunt Atlas, nu pot purta pe umeri problemele intregii omeniri. Cu greu, cu ale mele ma confrunt.
- nu stiu daca al meu baiat, adolescent in care alchimia sexuala-i doar o plastelina moale, va sti sa spuna astazi "da" sau "nu"...depinde de-unde vine, cred..
-nu stiu daca eu asi fi incercat vre-un drog (alcool, tutun, etc) la varsta lui de azi, dar cred ca da, dac-un prieten bun mi l-ar fi oferit. Probabil c-asi fi incercat orice, daca venea de la cineva in care-aveam incredere, atunci. Iar astazi presupun ca i-asi fi injurat pe cei ce m-au lasat sa-ncerc, atunci.
Cine are argumente impotriva afirmatiei ca:
nu te nasti homosexual, ci esti influentat in a deveni asa ceva, sa-si etaleze, totusi, argumentele, raspunzandu-mi, de ex. la comentariile de mult postate...ori daca nu, pai batem apa-n piua.

Bottom-line:
1. consider ca nu-i bine sa fii homosexual. De-aceea, copiii mei nu mi-ar placea sa fie homosexuali. ok?
2. consider ca dac-ai devenit asa ceva, nu esti decat o victima. Imi pare rau, be happy...whatever!...just stay away!
3. te tolerez, daca ma tolerezi. Nu intru-n viata ta, dar stai departe de a mea si de-a lor mei.
4. daca nu stai departe, consider c-am dreptate sa-mi apar ideile. Incearca sa-mi atingi baiatul in "acel sens" si-am sa-ti iau gatul. Punct. Atinge-i pe-altii ce-s ca tine...e ok! Pe unde vreti, dar eu sa nu va vad, eu si copiii mei. Nu-n locuri publice. Sunt publice, deci publicu' decide, nu? Democratie? Un Referendum!
5. superbe metafore, moralizatoare si stangace copii dupa nis'caiva sugative uitate de EU pe la Bucale', valabile azi, pagane si stupide ieri si poate maine, "treziri" recente (si in fasha moarte) la VIATA!
Chiar si pt. ei, da' bune la export cu sila.
Sa fim seriosi si sa-ncercam distinctia sa o facem intre Intolerante.
Avem si noi din ele ( Oh, si cate!), dar sunt deosebite intre ele, ca urmari pe termen lung! Caci una-i sa incurci culorile, si-alta gaurile. Si iarasi una-i sa-ncurci interesul de moment si alta-i ce-i poti spune mamei despre viata ta, pe patul ei de moarte...Nu?
6. stiu sa tolerez, desi n-ai zice, poate! Toleranta...o'ntreaga philosophie, bre...ma rog...passons, dar totusi, Toleranta: imens de necesar subiect. Aparte, cred.

Ci una peste alta, nu e prea greu cu un Dogmatic, ci-mi facu' placere! Chiar si cu unul ce, desi nu se explica, la ale altora-ntrebari evita/uita sa raspunda, pe cand acuza papadii ca n-au raspuns. La ce-ntrebari, legate de Subiect?

Sa dai in Papadie, e usor, da' tre' sa stii intai sa fii dibaci cu Vantu'!
Cu scuze pentru-asa de zero-unu rupere de nori, din partea-mi.
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Buna-i berea, nu-i ca vinu'... - de papadie67 la: 30/09/2003 06:31:49
(la: Viata gay romaneasca)
moncher

Freud a fost recunoscut, repudiat, re-recunoscut, re-repudiat, idolatrizat, ridiculizat, etc ... cumva frate-vitreg cu McDonalds.
Nu-s de-acolo, nu cunosc, nu ma pronunt. De aceea, nu ca zic, da' vreau sa spui...nea austriacu' nu' i la ora actuala un punct de referinta nici macar in psihanaliza, ca sa nu mai vorbim de psihiatrie. DE ce vorbim despre ce-a spus el, cand freca penita gandindu-se la D-na Freud, a batrana?
Referitor la hormoni si la influenta lor asupra comisurilor si-a
fasciculelor, printre altele, nimerind car'-va'szica-n plina neurofiziologie, cea-n continua concurenta cu neuroendocrinologia, observam ca-s multe si faine teorii, precum si multi bani platiti, global vorbind, oamenilor ce se-ocupa cu-aceste delicate fineturi.
Tu fiind, inteleg, unul dintre ei, te-asi ruga sa-ti argumentezi pozitia in acest chat.

Spune-ne de ce crezi ca H-sexualii sunt pre-determinati (genetic-cum altfel?...pre-wired, nu?) sa devina ce vor fi devenit. Spunene-ne ca, ne-expusi unei posibilitati conjuncturale/environnement-ale, ei vor deveni oricum atrasi de sexul propriu. Asa cum nici o altei fiinte biologice heterosexuate nu i se-ntampla. Explica-ne, dar fara Freud, ca s-a fumat de mult, ce-l face pe-un baiat sa caute placere sexuala acolo unde biologic, si dupa regulile ei, nu-i este locul? Biologicul/hormonii/comisurile/fasciculele?
DOPA si-alti neurotransmitatori?
Ori poate Educatia? Experientele?
Sunt toti aurolacii encodati genetic spre-a deveni ceea ce sunt?
Daca s-ar naste-ntr-o familie care-i ofer-aurolacului alternative la aurolac, ar deveni-aurolacu-aurolac?
La fel, pt ce discutam aci, si-anume H-sexuali; ar deveni ei cu necesitate H-sexuali daca nu s-ar gasi niste 'respectabile' personaje care sa-i ghideze in acest sens?
Ori, daca nu-i la fel, pe ce criterii STIINTIFICE, nu teorii ce azi rasar si maine pier, deosebim addictia de-orice fel de-addictia (as spune io', ca nechematu', psihologica) spre sexul de acelasi fel?
Cromozomi? Care gene si-unde?
De negasit, pan' acum? ok, da' spune-asa
hormoni? vorbim tot despre gene, nu-i asa, pana la urma? Nu dovedim genetic, vorbim despre hormoni degeaba, in ceea ce priveste ce ne preocup-acum.
educatie si expunere? de ce-ar fi devenit, deodata, un tabu?
De ce?
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cat despre mine - de papadie67 la: 30/09/2003 06:58:17
(la: Poezia face timpul placut)
sunt flatat! ghimpii din inima i-asi smulge; nu-i gasesc: escrocii, s-au pitit!
De stil? Un exercitiu? Nu!
E-o poveste veche. Si nu prea vesela, parol!
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Draga Tolanici, - de papadie67 la: 30/09/2003 17:36:56
(la: Viata gay romaneasca)
Imi luasem deja la revedere de la tine mai demult, dar vad ca nu ma poti uita...
Randurile tale m-au ranit din nou, peste masura; mahnit constat ce groaznica impresie despre mine ai! Cum asi putea s-o schimb ma chinui sa pricep... si somnul l-am pierdut!

Asi vrea atat de mult sa fim prieteni...am ochi frumosi, sa stii, desi sunt un picut timid, dar tu esti tolerant si nu mi-e frica.

Dar daca nu se poate, nu se poate...inteleg si plec.

Nu inainte de a-ti spune, IARASI, cu inima zdrobita: Pa si pu...!
LA REVEDERE!

Adio! Uita-ma...eu te-am uitat deja.
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Coruptia in SUA - de ninel la: 06/10/2003 16:15:06
(la: Inca un sit care se bate cu coruptia)
Diferenta de coruptie dintre SUA si Romania este foarte mare, dar asta nu inseamna ca nu exista coruptie in SUA, desi nu atat de pronuntata si nevoalata ca in Romania (ex. axa Enron-Bush-Cheney-Halliburton-Carlisle Group e considerata de majoritatea americanilor un exemplu pozitiv al capitalismului intreprinzator american sau in cel mai rau caz clientelism perfect legal).

Chestia cu "In Canada si USA cuvantul dat este crezut" este cam exagerata. Nu stiu despre Canada, dar traiesc in SUA de mai bine de 13 ani si dupa cate stiu eu, cuvantul dat nu are nici o valoare fara martori, si chiar cu martori cuvantul dat e nul in cazul politicienilor. Contractul scris si notariat e cu totul altceva, iar aplicarea legilor cu uniformitate relativa este ceea ce creaza diferenta dintre SUA si Romania.

Putem sa vorbim de coruptie la nivelul legislativ in SUA, o coruptie care afecteza in mod negativ majoritatea americanilor prin tratate gen NAFTA, WTO, GATT sau legi care permit circulatia libera a capitalului, toate acestea avand efectul de a inchide fabrici in SUA si a le redeschide in Mexic, Europa de est si sud-estul Asiei. Bineinteles ca americanii sunt descurcareti si gasesc servici intotdeauna dupa ce sunt somerizati: ori la McDonald's sau restaurante asemanatoare, ori in alte industrii usoare pentru o leafa mai mica, fara asigurare medicala, mai putina vacanta si mai multe ore de lucru, dar atat timp cat randamentul si bursa stau bine, noi nu tinem discutii dintr-astea comuniste. Noi nu gandim, noi facem biznis!

Pe scurt, daca romanii cauta exemple de urmat in lupta anti-coruptie, ar face bine sa treaca SUA mai jos pe lista, ca-s tari mult mai calificate. De ex, pe 2002, Transparency International a clasificat SUA pe locul 16 si Canada pe locul 7. Pe primele sase locuri in ordine sunt: Finlanda, Danemarca, Noua Zeelanda, Islanda, Singapore, si Suedia. Intre Canada si SUA mai gasiti pe lista: Luxembourg, Olanda, Anglia, Australia, Norvegia, Elvetia, Hong Kong si Austria. Romania este pe locul 77 la egalitate de puncte cu Pakistanul, Filipinele si Zambia, dar mai bine decat Moldova ce se afla pe locul 93 la nu mare departare de codasa Bangladesh de pe locul 102. Sursa: http://www.transparency.org/pressreleases_archive/2002/2002.08.28.cpi.en.html

Pe o tangenta, ma intreb daca cei de pa Transparency International au luat in calcul faptul ca bancile vestice, Banca Mondiala si Fondul Monetar International (controlate de SUA si celelalte tari dezvoltate) perpetua situatia din tarile mult mai corupte prin faptul ca le furnizeaza imprumuturi grase ce ajuns des in buzunarele celor ce sunt cei mai vinovati de stagnarea economiilor rasuflate din acele tari. Credeti oare ca lipsa imprumuturilor din vest ar ajuta caderea guvernelor clientelare?
Raspuns: - de chitina35 la: 17/10/2003 10:33:03
(la: Pestele de la coada se impute, sau "bovina si Constitutia")
Normal ca o lege organica se schimba mai usor decat o constitutie. Vezi, nu aici am vrut sa ajung ci la faptul ca domnii nostri guvernanti au zapacit lumea de cap cu faptul ca noua Constitutie nu te mai obliga la armata. Eu am vrut sa subliniez ca nimic din ceea ce spun ei nu este adevarat. ARAMATA SE VA FACE PANA LA ADOPTAREA UNEI LEGI CARE SA SPECIFICE CLAR ACEST LUCRU; adica faptul ca armata nu este obligatorie. Asta am vrut sa spun.
Dupa mine, armata este buna pentru baieti pentru ies din puful de acasa si de langa fusta mamei. Dar nu armata romana. Copilul meu nu v-a face armata in Romania si de stiu ca mituiesc toti generalii. Aceasta este bataie de joc, nu armata. Din pacate copiii nostri nu vor scapa de armata prea curand. Degeaba isi fac vise. Legea privind obligativitatea armatei se va da mult mai tarziu. Anul viitor este an electoral. Se vor da legi sociale: ajutoare, scaderi de impozit, mariri de alocatii, pensii etc. Nu au ei timp de armata si de copiii nostri.
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observator - de gabi la: 20/10/2003 01:38:26
(la: A existat holocaust in Romania?)
pan' aici, cred ca Zalmoxes are un discurs mai structurat si mai civil, Valentin o durere-n suflet usor de inteles (cu siguranta si mai usor, daca as fi evreu si eu) iar anonimul o comparatie lejer pe-alaturi, deoarece evreii secolului 19 stabiliti masiv in Principate n-au avut, din cate stiu, un "program" coordonat, de tip Osama, vizand sabordarea economiei, politicii sau religiei romanesti. Cat despre actiunile anti-romanesti ale evreilor din Estul tarii in WW2, citesc aci ca nu au precedat, ci au urmat uciderea de catre anumiti romani a unora dintre ai lor, in perioada imediat premergatoare intrarii Romaniei in razboi.
Presupun ca dac-asi fi fost evreu la vremea aia, n-as fi apreciat nici eu tratamentul si as fi actionat in consecinta. Voi nu?

In alta ordine de idei, antipatia mocnita (cu rabufnirile violente cunoscute) pentru comunitatile evreiesti din diferite tari si de-a lungul Istoriei este greu de contestat.
Exista chiar un site, ceva cu "jewish sins", scris de evrei, in care-ncearca sa(si) explice cauzele acestui fenomen: din cate-mi amintesc, pe primul loc se afla problema ideii lor fundamentale (dar nastrusnice, in cel mai bun caz) cum ca evreii sunt "popor ales".
E oarecum normal ca toate celelalte popoare (care, deci, in mod logic si automat, devin "respinse") sa zica: chiar asa? ci hai sictir! Adica noi suntem de fapt mai prosti, mai nespalati, mai ne"curati" mai ne"alesi" si nu suntem de fapt, de nasu' vostru? Si, poc!...una peste nas!
Greu sa-ti faci prieteni adevarati printre "respinsi", cand te consideri un "ales"...
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In Romania - de ofemeie la: 20/10/2003 05:08:08
(la: Castigati 1 milion de euro. Ce veti alege: Romania sau occident?)
Viata este mai ieftine si acolo cunosc mai bine afacerile.Chiar daca imi place sa castig singura milionul,ca daca cineva mi-l da nu-l simt,asi alege Romania.E o tara frumoasa.Alexandra



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