bad boys blue

stiu sa incite senzualitatea feminina. drept pentru care nu-i de mirare ca fetele de care povesti trag cu coada ochiului.
femeia însa, îi priveste direct in ochi pe acesti bad boys. aici e marea diferenta !

Este foarte dificil de facut o lista cu cele mai bune piese din anii `80...asta pentru ca atunci, ca si in deceniul anterior acestuia, au fost produse cele mai bune piese din toate timpurile...nu numai atat, compozitiile din acei ani reprezentau intr-adevar `reale compozitii muzicale` si nicidecum minute de zgomot si stres asa cum reprezinta piesele din ziua de azi...
Pe primul loc, cu coroana de diamant, as pune fara rezerve ABBA, care reprezinta cea mai stralucitoare galaxie din toate timpurile si spatiile posibile....
Secundara, coroana de aur, as aseza-o cu deosebita placere peste imaginea celor din MODERN TALKING, care au adus lumii compozitii superbe, adevarate desfatari ale sufletului...
In locurile ce urmeaza asez, nu fara emotii, BONEY M, C C CATCH, BLUE SYSTEM, BAD BOYS BLUE, SANDRA si ALPHAVILLE.
Special nu am mentionat nici o melodie, ii sfatuiesc cu mare placere pe cei care au rabdarea totusi sa urmareasca aceste randuri, sa asculte toata discografia pe care o pot procura ale acestor interpreti... isi vor bucura sufletul cu noi si placute sentimente (re)nascute la auzul armonicilor deosebite ale pieselor acestora....
Meritul mare a celor din ABBA este ca si-au compus singuri piesele, adevarate capodopere pentru totdeauna....sfatuiesc cu drag cititorul sa aibe rabdarea sa priveasca (pentru inceput) videoclipul KNOWING YOU, KNOWING ME....la vederea ochilor deosebit de frumosi ai blondei, plini de incarcare sufleteasca, sunt sigur ca nu se vor mai putea dezlipi de la ecran....si asta a fost numai un exemplu...ca apoi sa le recomand sa nu faca greseala sa nu caute videoclipul ONE OF US.....sunt convins ca daca sunt indragostiti sau si numai sensibili...vor avea lacrimi in ochi....este o compozitie magnifica....alte cuvinte sunt de prisos...
Un titan al muzicii planetare este DIETER BOHLEN, un gigant al compozitiilor de calitate...este autorul melodiilor pentru MODERN TALKING (majoritatea stiu ca el a fost membrul blond al acestei formatii) si BLUE SYSTEM, ca sa nu mai vorbim ca tot el a `depistat-o` si lansat-o pe celebra CC CATCH, ale caror melodii le-a compus....iar melodiile compuse de el sunt adevarate creatii muzicale, superbe, care sunt absolut departe de majoritatea pieselor produse din `90 incoace, facute numai pentru a ocupa timpii de emisie a posturilor radio-TV si a stresa auditoriul....
Si lista nu se opreste aici, cate ceva despre fiecare ar fi de spus....
Nu pot sa nu amintesc aici de Mihai Cretu, alias Michael Cretzu, care a compus cu sarg piesele cantate de SANDRA, sotzia lui de altfel....ca si ceilalti mentionati mai sus, Mihai Cretu a creat frumoase piese muzicale, pline de linii melodice magnifice....
Toti compozitorii mentionati mai sus au linii melodice deosebit de clar conturate in pieselor, deosebit de placute auzului, care bat de departe aproape toate piesele compuse dupa `90 (exceptie facand ROXETTE si
ceea ce a cantat in continuare Blue System, Bad Boys BLue,Sandra CC CATCH si iar Modern Talking).
Voi ce aveti de spus? :)
.....................................................al vostru
ADY, 27 ani
viitor powermaker pt www.ABBA.ro :)

Bad Boys Blue

De catva timp ascult unele din melodiile grupului Bad Boys Blue-imi amintesc de anii ceva mai "tineri"....Poate,daca am timp,voi asculta si din Beatles...

Din liceu imi amintesc mai intai diminetile rosii de iarna. Rosii de la felinare, nu radeti, nu erau felinare "d-alea", a fost o perioada ciudata in care strazile erau luminate cu rosu in loc de albastrul normal la cap.
Si de "maestrul Grebla" cu care faceam practica. "Maestrul" fiindca in mintea lui asta echivala cu "maistru". Iar Grebla il chema.

Practica era putina ca liceul nu avea profil de gen, in schimb proasta. Invatam la fizica pe "papusi mobile" si ascultam "Bad Boys Blue", faceam probleme de mate si in troleu, pe bilete perforate intre doua si cinci gauri, fiindca profa de mate era un zbir nemilos care avea ochiul pe noi si in somn. Nu glumesc! :o)
I se spunea Bastilia liceului, acum i-au pus nume de voievod si poate s-o mai fi inmuiat. Profa de filosofie spunea cuvinte magice ca "Phaidon", "Phaidros", "Etica nicomahica" si ne dadea reflexe scormonitoare.
Il iubeam pe nebunul asta cu ochi albastri, pe mine ma iubea alt nebun cu ochi albastri, nimic nu era bine, totul pica stramb, pana si lumina.

In liceu te formezi tu cu ajutorul altora, tot tu te formezi si mai tarziu.
Viata n-ai cum s-o astepti, cel mult poti sa stai in loc si s-o despici in doua, sa curga pe langa tine ca apa. Dar ar fi pacat.
Bucura-te, scormoneste, iubeste, fii capritza. :o)
Lasa miturile sa se usuce la alte icoane, in alte cuie.

Just turn left at Greenland...

daca ar fi sa alcatuiesc un top 10 al anilor 80 asa ar arata topu meu
1.cc catch-i cant loose my heart tonight
2.blue system-my bed is to big
3.sandra-maria magdalena
4.bad boys blue-your'e a woman
5.modern talking-chery chery lady
6.sabirna-boys
7.desyreless- voyage voyage
8.michael jackson-thriller
9.berlin take my breath away
10.Dr alban let the beat go on


Asa ara arata topul compus de mine desi in special mai mult imi plac cc catch blue system si modern talking.E thare subiectu asta;)

din experienta mea, bad boy-ii sufera de un complex de inferioritate. pe undeva compenseaza cu tzoalele, masina si figurile pe autostrada. cand o sa aflati unde anume compenseaza, o sa va treaca dorul de bad boy.


zaraza

uite asa ne dezvalui matalutza din tainele de atac ale "bad boys"-ilor :)
fetele, luati aminte...nu va lasati pacalite de nici unul dintre tipuri. fie ca-i pasiv, fie activ...privirea-i periculoasa :)

multam' fain de up-date ... you are a good friend!

intr-adevar, unul din rolurile esentiale jucate de 'bad boys' este de a invata de la ei intr-o 'sesiune prescurtata' cea ce nu se poate invata 'la fara frecventa'... ;)

ai impins discutia pe un taram pragmatic ;) Nu cred ca omul obisnuit
ar avea ceva in contra daca i s-ar propune un tratament controversat
pentru simplul motiv ca nu ar intelege (tratamentul si efectele pe termen lung). Oricum exista grupuri de indivizi care se opun chiar si transfuziei :((
Daca ar fii un specialist care controleaza cat de cat procesul sunt sigur ca decizia nu ar mai fi chiar atat de triviala!

Despre politicieni si biserica, permite-mi sa spun ca oamenii obisnuiti "e" multi si au puterea masei ;)) Ar fi interesant daca ar fi un preot in forum care sa poata/vrea aborda anumite tematici mai controversate (manipulari genetice). Oricum banuiesc ca biserica se axeaza pe mantuire sufleteasca si in consecinta fizicul nu prea este important.

Despre ultimul tau paragraf...in general oamenii de stiinta seriosi gasesc in CECETARE o provocare tentanta in care se arunca cu trup si suflet. Cred ca ei isi pun mai mult problema cum este FOLOSITA o descoperire sau alta! De multe ori sunt sub influienta maselor care ii considera bad-boys...chiar discutam intr-un forum interesant din cafenea despre ID-isti!

"Somnul ratiunii naste monstrii" - Goya

Ok ...ce e un rocker? E, in primul rand, un neica care poarta plete, cercei, tatuaje si piele? Daca da atunci mai bine la costum si cravata. Daca insa e un neica care isi da ultimii bani pe noul album al trupei cutare si cunoaste tot ce misca in materie de muzica se schimba socoteala. Am intalnit multi indivizi care se bateau cu boltarul in piept ca ei "e roacheri si stie sa dea din cap". In discutii insa ...tabula rasa.
Se pune problema ce fel de rock asculti. Nu este doar rock si atat. Exista rock de calitate si rock varza (cartofi si alte legume). Deci nu vorbim la general. Sunt genuri de rock care pot fi foarte greu digerabile. Unul care asculta power nu o sa fie entuziast la heavy, unul care asculta black metal o sa fuga de hard-core, trash, grunge, gothic etc. La un moment dat intr-o discutie am auzit ceva de genul "le cunosti pe bleacaritele alea?" (inteleg prin asta doua tanti care asculta black metal). Eu personal "nu halesc" multe trupe. Un rocker este unul care accepta fara pretentii muzica rock? In acest caz seamana foarte bine cu un simplu moftangiu. Ma imbrac ca un rocker si pun acasa ac dc si toti vecinii o sa vada ce "suparat" sunt eu. Mofturi dupa cum spuneam. Daca ascult Bob Marley se presupune ca nu trebuie sa ma spal pe cap nu stiu cati ani ca sa fac paduchii pe care idolul meu ii avea? Sa zicem ca fac asta. Iti dai seama ca ceilalti vor fugi (daca nu din cauza faptului ca put atunci de frica sa nu ia paduchi de la mine).
Mai este si tipul roackerului fanatic. Adeca domne` eu ascult sepultura si in consecinta nirvana sau megadeath sunt "nashpa". Deci tovarasi ce e rockul? Sa lasam american idol deoparte ca daca ti-ai luat o jawa nu inseamna ca ai harley, si daca ai pleata si stii sa canti doua melodii la chitara nu inseamna ca esti Cobain. Cred ca mult timp roackerii din romania (ma refer la tzanci) s-au complacut cu ideea de baiat rau. Ultima data am fost la un concert iris si cargo acum cateva saptamani. Era plin de lume. Erau mame si copii si oameni cu parul alb (tuns scurt) care dadeau din cap de mama focului. Irisii nu "e roackeri"? Cargo nu e "roackeri"? Daca "e" atunci cum se face ca sunt apreciati? Oare pentru ca lumea intelege mesajul (muzical si nu numai) si pentru ca ei nu isi "fabrica" acea faima de "bad boys with long hair"? Cred ca nu se pune problema la modul "cum ma percep ceilalti" ci "cum imi convine mie sa se creada despre mine". Oricat de roacker ai fi omul isi da seama cu cine sta de vorba. Daca sub parul ala se ascund doar tampenii te va ocoli pe viitor cu multa gratie. Florian Pitis e pensionar si are si pleata, ciocate si geaca de piele. El este de asemenea un tip foarte destept, un neica pe care multi ani l-am ascultat la teleenciclopedie, un "vocal" foarte bun si in plus mai este si "om de cultura".
Cu alte cuvinte in loc de vaicareli roackerul nostru ar putea sa faca ceva ca sa fie apreciat.

Da mai...teoria se verifica. "Good girls love bad boys" =))

boys and bad

Multzumim frumos blue eyes.

La Multzi Ani!

Noi am stat acasa( eu si nevasta) si am lasat pc-ul "cuplat"; eram curios citzi vor fi pe "fir". Eram aproape sigur ca cel putzin un moldovean va ramane agatzat.
Am urmarit tvr international + de pe la noi( deh) iar la miezul noptzii ni s-a umplut casa cu niste polonezi simpatici( vecini) cu care am tras -de pe terasa- cu "bombardele"

Sanatate si bucurie ptr. totzi buzoienii!

sb


Moto:
Crede in cel ce cauta Adevarul,
Fereste-te de cel ce l-a gasit.
(A.Gide)

...sint suficiente, blue eyes!
ai mei au ramas totzi sa "stinga lumina". Nu e o rusine. E un curaj mare sa pleci, unul si mai mare sa ramii.
Tot respectul!

Si nu uita, sa ai mai mult(?) nu inseamna neaparat sa ai mai bine!

PS
eu am plecat la 40; 10 ani mi-au mincat nemtzii, pina m-au lasat "liber".

stiu multzi ingineri pe aici care fac cu totul altceva ( si nu ca nu ar fi buni); sa practici ca medic in GE e in primul rind o problema politica. economistii si juristii, e clar ca sint exclusi!

cred ca se mai cauta IT dar nu sint sigur. In GE e criza mare de vre-un an jumate. Am fosti colegi care nu-si mai gasesc de lucru. Virsta e desigur un pct. hotaritor; si limba. Venit insa asa in "cautare" sint sande mai mult decit minime.

sb


Moto:
Crede in cel ce cauta Adevarul,
Fereste-te de cel ce l-a gasit.
(A.Gide)

Hi Gabi.Boldis,
deci exista cineva care ma poate intelege.Good for you!KEEP ON SMOKING IT!
Nu te baga in cocaine,spun din experienta caci mi-am distrus dintii si gingiile si la fel simtul mirosului!!!Am dantura falsa(NU proteza!)prin implanturi si m-a costat aici o groaza de bani!Am poate 2-3 dinti ai mei originali,in rest totul e implant fals...dantura de superstar.HA!La fel am probleme si cu inima,tensiune mare si sint pe pastile speciale(Atacand)de multi ani,colesterolul e scazut insa dar am inca ficatul cu probleme....bautura deh!la fiecare 3 luni trebuie sa merg la doctorul meu pt. control total.
De aceea incerc sa plutesc inca in viata si sa muncesc mult sa las ceva sotiei in afara de vila.ma simt bine si mai sanatos decit inainte,si pt. ca am devenit de 5 luni total vegetarian si nu mai fumez cite 2 pac. pe zi...la un moment dat 3-4!!!Ma rezum la 5-7 tigari pe zi si 2-3 pahare de vin rosu simplu pe zi.
Nu mai fumez pot decit la cele mai mari ocazii si ar fi cel mult de 3 ori pe...AN!!!Dar am tarit din plin si cum am scris NU regret nici o clipa.Ar fi bine daca si aici in USA as putea creste marijuana in glastra....dar e riscant.tara asta inca e f. TIGHT ASS!
Cafea.. la fel beau extrem de f. rar,inima....dar beau mult green tea natural zilnic.
cam astea ar fi pe moment,crede-ma insa ca NU sint impotriva nimanui in a-si alege viata ce o doreste si poti fuma pot cit doresti,poate cindva cine stie caci lumea e totusi mica,va fi acea karma sa ne intilnim aiurea si desigur ca voi fuma un joint cu tine!!!!fara indoiala!putin hash n-ar fi bad either!HA!

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy

de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

oed jew | more
Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.