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tirania petrolului - de zabriski la: 25/10/2003 06:25:28
(la: America si puterea petrolului)
Teoria cu "diversiunea WTC" si mi se pare in cel mai bun caz fantezista - imi cer scuze ca o spun pe sleau, "no offense" - dar daca tot crezi ca petrolul e "cheia istoriei recente" iti sugerez sa citesti un articol interesant in The Economist, numarul curent. Se cheama "The end of the Oil Age" si il gasesti la rubrica "Opinion".
Cat despre americanii care ar putea ataca la un moment dat Romania ca sa puna mana pe petrolul nostru, cred ca putem dormi cu totii, indiferent pe unde ne-am afla, fara nici o grija.
Istoria se bazeaza pe fapte si documente. - de Zamolxe la: 31/10/2003 20:34:47
(la: ZIDUL RUSINII)
Alien. Te alienezi de unul singur. Nu prea le ai cu intelegerea frazelor complexe, le scoti din context, le trunchiezi si te minunezi de ce emiti.
Eu am propus o discutie logica, bazata pe argumente, date istorice si pe fapte. Pot sa intep si eu, chiar mai abitir decit tine, dar nu acesta este scopul discutiei.
Singura cotizatie pe care o dau este pentru adevar si logica.

Toata justificarea pretentiilor teritoriale ale evreilor in Palestina au la baza ideea reintoarcerii “acasa”. Ori asa cum am spus si am demonstrat logic, singurii care se pot reintoarce sint cei care au plecat. Urmasii unui popor nu se reintorc la origini decit in sens literar.
Aceasta tara (casa), Palestina condusa de imperiul roman, a fost parasita de evrei. Fortati de imprejurari. Motivele plecarii sint neimportante pentru arabii care au venit in locul romanilor, dupa multe sute de ani!!! Nu arabii i-au gonit pe evrei din tara lor, ei pur si simplu s-au stabilit acolo unde era locul gol. Mai mult, evreii din diversele zone ale lumii, au fost aliati ai arabilor si au luptat alaturi de ei.

Citeva legaturi pe internet despre subiect, pe care il stiu mai bine decit multi din carti adevarate, tiparite.

http://jesusneverexisted.com/militant.htm: Jerusalem was besieged by the Romans in the spring of 70 C.E. and ruthlessly retaken during the summer, by which time the defenders had been reduced to civil war, starvation and (according to Josephus) even cannibalism. The religious fanatics made their last stand at the fortress they had taken first – Massada. When faced by inevitable defeat (73 C.E.) they met it with a defiant act of mass suicide. The terrible price the Jews paid for their revolt was the total destruction of their temple and the city in which it stood.

Rezistenta evreilor a durat 3 ani pentru ca dupa sinuciderea lui Nero, a fost nevoie de ceva timp ca imperiul roman sa se stabilizeze.


Iar dacii, chiar daca au pierdut razboiul cu imperiul, nu au plecat din tara lor, care de altfel nici nu a fost ocupata integral, vezi zona dacilor liberi. Dacii s-au amestecat in cele din urma cu romanii si au nascut poporul român.

Evreii s-au stabilit in alte parti. http://www.geocities.com/jewishwarriors/: Finally, in the 9th century, the leaders and the majority of the Khazar nobility came to be Jews. One likely possibility for how this happened is a conversion of the nobility. This is the official version of the situation, as told by the Khazar ruler Joseph in his famous letter to Hasdai ibn Shaprut of Spain.

Asa cum am mai spus, pina in 1948 nu a fost un conflict deschis intre evrei si arabi. Ciocniri, atacuri, probleme locale, da. Ca peste tot intr-o lume a violentei, a dreptului fortei.

Si probabil ca nu ar fi fost nici un conflict major daca evreii ar fi respectat rezolutia nr. 181 a ONU din 29 noiembrie 1947. Iar ONU in 1947 nu era arabesc sau antisemit (vezi lista votantilor). Drept de veto aveau ca si acum foarte putini. Solutia a fost negociata si era suficient de fairplay, desi pleca de la ipoteza “reintoarcerii acasa” a evreilor.
Rezolutia a fost acceptata de evrei si respinsa de arabi. Cei care au acceptat-o au si incalcat-o si acestia au fost evreii. Rezolutia in sine era favorabila evreilor care primeau casa, o tara. La o bere politica.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH00ps0

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181 called for the partition of the British-ruled Palestine Mandate into a Jewish state and an Arab state. It was approved on November 29, 1947 with 33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstentions and one absent (see list at end of document).
The resolution was accepted by the Jews in Palestine, yet rejected by the Arabs in Palestine and the Arab state.
… … …
Adopted at the 128th plenary meeting:
In favour: 33
Australia, Belgium, Bolivia, Brazil, Byelorussian S.S.R., Canada, Costa Rica, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Dominican Republic, Ecuador, France, Guatemala, Haiti, Iceland, Liberia, Luxemburg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Sweden, Ukrainian S.S.R., Union of South Africa, U.S.A., U.S.S.R., Uruguay, Venezuela.
Against: 13
Afghanistan, Cuba, Egypt, Greece, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, Yemen.
Abstained: 10
Argentina, Chile, China, Colombia, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Honduras, Mexico, United Kingdom, Yugoslavia.


Partea urita a fost luarea cu forta a intregului teritoriu al Palestina/Israel. Proclamarea unilaterala a statului Israel a fost momentul in care arabii si evreii au devenit cu adevarat dusmani si s-a intrat pe o spirala violenta de actiune-reactiune.

Astept de la oricare dintre voi comentarii pertinente si nu atacuri de joasa speta. Daca vrem sa intelegem istoria trebuie sa o studiem si sa ne raportam strict la fapte si date. Solutiile crizelor se regasesc in corecta intelegere a istoriei.

Istoria nu raspunde la intrebari sentimentale si nici nu trateaza intimplarile individuale.

Refuzul istoriei asa cum este ea pastrata in documente duce la ridicare de ziduri mentale. Ziduri ale rusinii.

ptr. Zamolxe - de SB_one la: 12/11/2003 15:16:14
(la: Irak)
Ai vorbit ca un tarabostes; nu-mi ramine decit sa adaug cele de mai jos.
SB

> This will get you fired up!
>
>
>
> I wonder how many people are aware of this information. Love him or
> loath him, he nailed this one right on the head
>
> By Rush Limbaugh:
>
> I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the
> September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform
> are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you
> just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.
>
> Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something
> really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.
>
> If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to
> get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of
> $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
>
> If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed In
> action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half
> of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are
> the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry.
>
> And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When
> the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
>
> Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of
> $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.
> Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong
> place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL
> OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.
>
> We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the
> Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same
> deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that,
> some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for
> compensation as well.
>
> You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel
> of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just
> really sad.
>
> Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive
> next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the
> Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live
> in low-rent housing. Make sense?
>
> However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many
> of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to
> receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now
> equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social
> Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
>
> If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an
> E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people
> who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I
> would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks
> before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and
> daughters who are now fighting.
>
> "When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair
> to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.
>
> If your interested there is more............
>
> This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going. SOCIAL SECURITY:
> (This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.)
>
> Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our
> Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years
> ago they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no
> congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical
> purposes their plan works like this:
>
> When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die,
> except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.
> For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives
> may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred
> Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of
> their lives. This is calculated on an average life span for each.
>
> Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they
> voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for
> this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from
> the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! From our own Social Security
> Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into --every payday until we
> retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get
> an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we
> would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68
> years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!
>
> Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.
> And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from
> under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security
> plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.
>
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted
> and maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a
> difference..
>
>
.
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Mea culpa! - de Dinu Lazar la: 14/11/2003 05:51:03
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Pe omu` respectiv il cheama Spencer Tunick. Se gasesc pe web multe poze realizate de el.

Coincidenta este ca domnia sa a fost motivul unui schimb de replici in lista de discutii Fotopro, intre mine si un fotograf american, mai putin prezent pe net - pentru ca uraste computerul - si anume Bruce Esbin.

Intii imi scrie Bruce:

===========================

Spencer Tunick, he is the DUDE!!! When someone is able to get 450
naked women to pose for them in Grand Central Station in NYC, then they are the greatest photographer in the world. Until someone is
able to do this on the Moon then his title will remain.

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La care eu raspund:

> I am very curious to see what pictures it have made...
>
> His site is ... I have not words... go here:
> http://www.spencertunick.com/individuals.html
>
> It is an idiot... This pictures are made by a groggy man... I cannot
> believe.

> Best regards,
>
> Dinu
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La care Bruce:

Though I was making a joke about Tunick being the "world's greatest
photographer". All joking aside however I do think he is a great
photographer, and I'll tell you why. Photography as you know is just a
tool that allows people to see many different things in a two
dimensional world, a world that despite being two dimensional still
enables us to experience the image on a high information level.

For me the genius of what Tunick does is showing the Homo-Sapien
species as group of animals without the usual protective barrier of
clothing in different and varied environments. Very interesting
environments at least for me. Buenos Aires, New York City, Antarctica,
Vienna, St. Petersburg, etc. all juxtaposed with a single naked human
form or in huge naked groups. It is strangely interesting because it is
something we would never see otherwise especially the groups. In that
sense it is art because it allows us to see something very unique and
thought provoking on the nature of being human.

Some people could say anyone with a camera could take a picture of a
naked person outdoors, and they would be right, however let them try
and go through the effort to organize the large groups of people and
get the permission of international city governments as Tunick
succeeded in doing. So for me Tunick is far from being an "idiot" or a
"groggy man". For me he is a genuine artist with a nice sense of humor who is exploring the human form in an interesting way through the use of photography.
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Replica mea este:

> All that you write here is a good sense and true. Seeing so, it is OK.
>
> But... the light, the composition, the color, the perspective, the art?
>
> I need only a idea, only a concept? I do not need any professional sense of the light?
>
> I believe that you understand me...
>
> When I see a picture, I give in my mind notes for technique, art (
> composition) and idea.
>
> 0+0+10/3=3,3...

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Si Bruce continua:

Sometimes the technique is secondary to the concept, sometimes the technique is the concept. What I've found refreshing with Tunick's photography is his relative lack of obvious technique, the almost snapshot like quality of his pictures, as if he just showed up accidently with a Ricoh G1 loaded with color negative film and just snapped a shot of this strangeness before him.
This is what gives it power, the utter banality of technique.

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Asa ca si intre profesionisti parerile sunt impartite.
Succesul comercial al lui Tunick este insa imens.
Mie personal nu imi place ce face. Asta nu conteaza desigur.

Am vrut sa vedeti insa dincolo de usile inchise cam cum gindesc fotografii...sau unii dintre ei.

Dupa mine, talent este sa iei o cizma si sa o fotografiezi, si sa para mai atragatoare si mai sexy decit o playmate, nu sa umpli o gara cu o suta de femei goale si sa faci glamour.
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Tunick : oamenii ca o turma - de Dinu Lazar la: 14/11/2003 09:50:06
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
aaa...sigur ca arta ar trebui sa transmita idei, da` fiecare arta cu meshteshugu` sau... una e meshteshugu` si alta e ideea... una fara alta nu se poate... ai o gara cu o suta de femei goale? Asta e o idee. Si? In conceptia mea asta nu ajunge... trebuie lumina, cadru, atmosfera... iacata ce spun cei mari:

"Simply look with perceptive eyes at the world about you, and trust to your own reactions and convictions. Ask yourself: "Does this subject move me to feel, think and dream? Can I visualize a print - my own personal statement of what I feel and want to convey - from the subject before me?"

-Ansel Adams

It is light that reveals, light that obscures, light that communicates. It is light I "listen"
to. The light late in the day has a distinct quality, as it fades toward the darkness of evening. After sunset there is a gentle leaving of the light, the air begins to still, and a quiet descends. I see magic in the quiet light of dusk. I feel quiet, yet intense energy in the natural elements of our habitat. A sense of magic prevails. A sense of mystery. It is a time for contemplation, for listening - a time for making photographs.

-John Sexton
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Pt Karina - de ninel la: 14/11/2003 12:56:12
(la: Derbedei sau artisti?)
The beauty is in the eye of the beholder, deci da, orice om poate fi un artist depinzand de audienta, si nici nu este necesar ca el sa fie sincer cu el insusi, deoarece audienta nu cunoaste intotdeauna sau poate chiar nu-i pasa despre sinceritatea acestuia. Asta inseamna ca ceea ce considera unul arta pe multi altii ii lasa rece (sau chiar ii repulseaza), si viceversa. Totul este relativ.
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E. A. Poe - de sanjuro la: 25/11/2003 06:38:29
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
Annabel Lee


It was many and many a year ago,
In a kingdom by the sea,
That a maiden there lived whom you may know
By the name of Annabel Lee; —
And this maiden she lived with no other thought
Than to love and be loved by me.

I was a child and she was a child,
In this kingdom by the sea;
But we loved with a love that was more than love —
I and my Annabel Lee —
With a love that the wingéd seraphs in Heaven
Coveted her and me.

And this was the reason that, long ago,
In this kingdom by the sea,
A wind blew out of a cloud, chilling
My beautiful Annabel Lee;
So that her high-born kinsmen came
And bore her away from me,
To shut her up in a sepulchre,
In this kingdom by the sea.

The angels, not half so happy in Heaven,
Went envying her and me —
Yes! — that was the reason (as all men know,
In this kingdom by the sea)
That the wind came out of the cloud by night,
Chilling and killing my Annabel Lee.

But our love it was stronger by far than the love
Of those who were older than we —
Of many far wiser than we —
And neither the angels in Heaven above,
Nor the demons down under the sea,
Can ever dissever my soul from the soul
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee: —

For the moon never beams, without bringing me dreams
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee;
And the stars never rise, but I feel the bright eyes
Of the beautiful Annabel Lee: —
And so, all the night-tide, I lie down by the side
Of my darling — my darling — my life and my bride,
In her sepulchre there by the sea —
In her tomb by the sounding sea.

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Bene sh-atata ...oricum ...mult! - de Alice la: 01/12/2003 13:46:48
(la: Cohen)
D-aia uite:

"What is a saint? A saint is someone who has achieved a remote human possibility. It is impossible to say what that possibility is. I think it has something to do with the energy of love. Contact with this energy results in the exercise of a kind of balance in the chaos of existence. A saint does not dissolve the chaos; if he did the world would have changed long ago. I do not think that a saint dissolves the chaos even for himself, for there is something arrogant and warlike in the notion of a man setting the universe in order. It is a kind of balance that is his glory. He rides the drifts like an escaped ski. His course is the caress of the hill. His track is a drawing of the snow in a moment of its particular arrangement with wind and rock. Something in him so loves the world that he gives himself to the laws of gravity and chance. Far from flying with the angels, he traces with the fidelity of a seismograph needle the state of the solid bloody landscape. His house is dangerous and finite, but he is at home in the world. He can love the shape of human beings, the fine and twisted shapes of the heart. It is good to have among us such men, such balancing monsters of love."
- L. Cohen, Beautiful Losers

Ai citit "The Favorite"?
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Take this waltz - de Daniel Racovitan la: 08/12/2003 03:47:22
(la: Cohen)
Uite o piesa, nush' dac'ai ascultat-o, e superbissima: "Take this waltz"... O pun pe picior de egalitate cu "Dance me..."
Un colaj de imagini halucinant, o [poezie] de [dragoste] deosebita:


"TAKE THIS WALTZ
--after Lorca

Now in Vienna there's ten pretty women
There's a shoulder where Death comes to cry
There's a lobby with nine hundred windows
There's a tree where the doves go to die
There's a piece that was torn from the morning
And it hangs in the Gallery of Frost
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
Take this waltz with the clamp on its jaws

Oh I want you, I want you, I want you
On a chair with a dead magazine
In the cave at the tip of the lily
In some hallways where love's never been
On a bed where the moon has been sweating
In a cry filled with footsteps and sand
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
Take its broken waist in your hand

This waltz, this waltz, this waltz, this waltz
With its very own breath of brandy and Death
Dragging its tail in the sea

There's a concert hall in Vienna
Where your mouth had a thousand reviews
There's a bar where the boys have stopped talking
They've been sentenced to death by the blues
Ah, but who is it climbs to your picture
With a garland of freshly cut tears?
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
Take this waltz it's been dying for years


There's an attic where children are playing
Where I've got to lie down with you soon
In a dream of Hungarian lanterns
In the mist of some sweet afternoon
And I'll see what you've chained to your sorrow
All your sheep and your lilies of snow
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
With its "I'll never forget you, you know!"

This waltz, this waltz, this waltz, this waltz ...

And I'll dance with you in Vienna
I'll be wearing a river's disguise
The hyacinth wild on my shoulder,
My mouth on the dew of your thighs
And I'll bury my soul in a scrapbook,
With the photographs there, and the moss
And I'll yield to the flood of your beauty
My cheap violin and my cross
And you'll carry me down on your dancing
To the pools that you lift on your wrist
Oh my love, Oh my love
Take this waltz, take this waltz
It's yours now. It's all that there is."


Si iata si o comparatie cu poezia lui Lorca, dupa care Cohen spune ca s-a inspirat:
http://www.webheights.net/speakingcohen/waltz.htm
Andrei - de LMMagain la: 08/12/2003 08:40:29
(la: Ce este un gentleman? (o parere victoriana))
Desi este foarte frumos citatul ales de tine (si convingator)eu cind am spus ce am spus m-am referit strict la ce am citit sub linkul afisat de Daniel . Un mic fragment:
´´He (the gentleman) has too much good sense to be affronted at insults, he is too well employed to remember injuries, and too indolent to bear malice. He is patient, forbearing, and resigned, on philosophical principles; he submits to pain, because it is inevitable, to bereavement, because it is irreparable, and to death, because it is his destiny. If he engages in controversy of any kind, his disciplined intellect preserves him from the blunder. [From The Idea of a University, 1852]

Probabil citeva cuvinte mi-au influentat impresia generala, mai degraba barbat cu caracter slab decit un gentleman....Si acelea sint: inevitable,resigned, irreparable, destiny.......
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Uite ce-ascult de cateva zile - de Alice la: 09/12/2003 01:42:25
(la: Cohen)
...sperand ca n-am innebunit de-a binelea ...

"Is this what you wanted?"( de pe Miscellaneous)


You were the promise at dawn,
I was the morning after.
You were Jesus Christ my Lord,
I was the money lender.
You were the sensitive woman,
I was the very reverend Freud.
You were the manual orgasm,
I was the dirty little boy.

And is this what you wanted
to live in a house that is haunted
by the ghost …of you and me?

Is this what you wanted ...

You were Marlon Brando,
I was Steve McQueen.
You were K.Y. Jelly,
I was Vaseline.
You were the father of modern medicine,
I was Mr. Clean.
You where the whore and the beast of Babylon,
I was Rin Tin Tin.

And is this what you wanted ...

And is this what you wanted ...

You got old and wrinkled,
I stayed seventeen.
You lusted after so many,
I lay here with one.
You defied your solitude,
I came through alone.
You said you could never love me,
I undid your gown.

And is this what you wanted ...

And is this what you wanted ...

I mean is this what you wanted ...

That's right, is this what you wanted!

Asa, citite, versurile n-au mare farmec ...dar sa-l auzi cum pronunta ...cum accentueaza silabele.
Daca l-ati auzi!!!

"I’m your man!" n-am auzit alta declaratie de dragoste!
Ba da, in "Dance me...", in "Thake this", in "Coming back to you", in "Ain’t no cure" ..."and when the hunger for your touch rises from the hunger ...you whisper "You have loved enough,
Now let me be the Lover."
STIU ca nu-i vorba doar de-atingere fizica! Nu va lasati pacaliti!
...eu sunt ceva abia atunci atunci cand Cohen canta!
...si inca un articol, tot in - de Daniel Racovitan la: 15/12/2003 04:20:34
(la: Emigrant roman, subiect de film)
...si inca un articol, tot in Evenimentul Zilei:

Florin Firimita, eroul filmului documentar “The Art of Leaving”: “A trebuit sa trec un ocean ca sa ma simt acasa”
http://www.expres.ro/divertisment/?news_id=140372
Anagramaticalitati... - de LMMagain la: 16/12/2003 10:25:25
(la: Cine ar trebui sa il judece pe Saddam Hussein?)
Fie vorba intre noi puteai sa iti alegi un nume mai usor de redat, ca mi s-a cam impleticit limba la transcris...:)
Dar trecind la teme serioase, trebuie sa recunosc ca de la primul tau mesaj am gindit``uite ca mai este unul care gindeste si (simte) ca mine!!``
Tu ai fost mai repede ca mine...
Am sa redau un fragment citit azi in stiri:

Cardinal Says U.S. Treated Saddam 'Like a Cow'

Cardinal Renato Martino, head of the Vatican's Justice and Peace department and a former papal envoy to the United Nations (news - web sites), told a news conference it would be "illusory" to think the arrest of the former Iraqi president would heal all the damage caused by a war which the Holy See opposed.
"I felt pity to see this man destroyed, (the military) looking at his teeth as if he were a cow. They could have spared us these pictures," he said.
"Seeing him like this, a man in his tragedy, despite all the heavy blame he bears, I had a sense of compassion for him," he said in answer to questions about Saddam's arrest.´´

Stiu ca sint multe de spus si noi sintem numai spectatori la ce se intimpla pe scena politica a lumii...Numai poporul Irakian are dreptul de a acuza...,dar mie mi s-a umplut sufletul de mila si jena, tot ce am vazut a fost un om batrin, lovit si durut pentru ca a cazut de la mare inaltime si pentru ca oricit de criminali au fost fiii lui, el este numai un tata care pe deasupra i-a mai pierdut si pe ei...Si daca va mai spun ca asemanator am simtit cind l-am vazut pe Ceausescu (cine isi mai aduce aminte) batrin si speriat, dupa ce l-au prins, ...... coborind din elicopter sau avion , nu mai retin...Desi l-am urit pentru viata oferita si mie in tara in care mi-am petrecut atita tinerete.
GOODIES - de ygrec la: 17/12/2003 06:07:29
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
I am the daughter of the Earth and water,
And the nurseling of the sky..
I passed through the Oceans and shores,
I changed…but I never die.


Shelley : The cloud
si iata ca mi-as dori sa ma insel... - de (anonim) la: 17/12/2003 09:07:58
(la: Fara titlu’...dar de Craciun)
Ce frumos ar fi daca ar fi asa.
Din pacate sunt atitea tristeti si nenorociri in lume
ar trebui ca fiecare sa aiba un Dumnezeu al lui care sa il/o poarte pe brate.
Cred ca suntem singuri si ca nasterea noastra este doar o intimplare biologica , un amestec cromozomic...
Cred ca oricit de confortabila ar fi ideea unei puteri mai presus de toate, este doar o idee care ne poate mingiia in momente de tristete si disperare.Suntem aici nu pentru a indeplini o misiune( the "psichology of meaning" este numai o forma de terapie), ci doar a exista si atit.
Ca noi dorim sa ii dam o menire, ca aceasta idee ne face sa ne simtim mai bine cu noi insine -- da asta nu contest.
Ideea de Dumnezeu, oricit de frumoasa si mingiietoare ar fi pentru noi, este din pacate doar o idee.
Totusi ,mi-as dori atit de mult sa ma insel....

Sarmi
Presa si fotografia - de Dinu Lazar la: 19/12/2003 00:43:00
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
2 Time Magazine Journalists Hurt in Iraq
By The Associated Press

19 December 2003

(AP) -- A senior reporter and a veteran photographer for Time magazine
were wounded along with two U.S. soldiers when a grenade was tossed into
their Humvee, the military and the magazine said Thursday.

Time senior correspondent Michael Weisskopf and contributing
photographer James Nachtwey were traveling with a U.S. Army patrol in
Baghdad on Wednesday night when the attack occurred, a statement from Time
managing editor Jim Kelly said.

A military spokesman said they were with a unit of the Army's 1st
Armored Division.

The military official, who spoke only condition of anonymity, said one
of the journalists was severely wounded and the other was slightly injured.
Time said both were in stable condition and were awaiting transfer to a U.S.
military hospital in Landstuhl, Germany.

Nachtwey is an award-winning photographer known for haunting images of
war and poverty. He was the subject of a 2001 Oscar-nominated documentary,
"War Photographer," and has won many awards. This year he shared a $1
million Dan David prize for documenting "the apocalyptic events of our
time."

Weisskopf is an award-winning correspondent based in Washington. He
covers national politics and investigations and was a finalist in the 1996
Pulitzer Prize for national reporting.

The Paris-based World Association of Newspapers has said that at least
16 journalists have been killed in Iraq this year. Many others have been
wounded.

In the last known incident, police said the editor of an independent
newspaper in the northern city of Mosul was shot and killed on Oct. 28.
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what about adrian brody in pi - de sugary la: 22/12/2003 11:50:34
(la: Actori preferati)
what about adrian brody in pianistul sau tom cruise("i will not apologize for who i am") si julianne moore in magnolia sau nicole kidman si merryl streep in the hours sau ed harris in...orice(!)--observati un pattern , un triunghi al bermudelor of sorts: filme bune ~actori/roluri bune~CARTI CE MERITA CITITE
concluzia mea:izul de carte prelins intre cadrele unui film; imbibat in fiecare replica,fiecare nail-biting second, se piteste tiptil ca un mesaj subliminal [vezi memorabila scena din "fight club":)]si sopteste in spatele scaunului tau de la cinema: the faces of a clear-cut diamond are hypnotic--the suggestion of faces of a raw one is enticing...
Cea mai frumoasa poezie - de (anonim) la: 22/12/2003 19:26:13
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
Invictus

OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

William Ernest Henley. 1849–1903
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Titlu: am ramas fara cuvinte - de Dinu Lazar la: 26/12/2003 17:18:15
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Va multumesc foarte mult pentru cuvintele Dvs referitoare la sit; sigur ca din punct de vedere al designului se poate face mult mai bine, dar si pentru mine mai importanta e fotografia si nu (inca) designul... si ma bucur ca v-ati indragostit de fotografie.

Mi-ar place ca peste citiva ani sa ma intilnesc cu Dvs la o expozitie de fotografie a Dvs si sa-mi spuneti ca ceva s-a intimplat cind ati vazut niste fotografii cindva pe un sit si ca v-ati apucat de atunci de fotografie.

Aproximativ trei ani am fost profesor de fotografie la sectia de grafica publicitara a Academiei de arte, in anii nouazeci si ceva; au fost si momente frumoase, dar si multe momente mai asa si asa, dar pe ansamblu desi cred ca am incercat mai multe lucruri (...si am adus primul computer in locul cu pricina) nu cred ca am reusit sa fac vreun student de la grafica sa se apuce serios de fotografie, adica full time, si cu succes, si trec asta la seria mea cam lunga de esecuri personale... daca excludem fostul laborant de acolo, care acum e oarecum fotograf de succes in Bucuresti si care si-a scris in CV ca a terminat Academia de Arte, in loc de ca "a terminat cu Academia de Arte"

Daca v-ati indragostit de fotografie, si daca vreti sa faceti fotografie, mi-ar place sa citi si sa nu uitati citeva fraze ale unor mari fotografi:

The magic of photography is metaphysical. What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organised visual lying. Terence Donovan (b. 1936), British photographer. Guardian (London, 19 Nov. 1983)

The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process.-Edward Weston

Let us first say what photography is not. A photograph is not a painting, a poem, a symphony, a dance. It is not just a pretty picture, not an exercise in contortionist techniques and sheer print quality. It is or should be a significant document, a pene- trating statement, which can be described in a very simple term - selectivity. -Berenice Abbott

Photographs are perhaps the most mysterious of all the objects that make up, and thicken, the environment we recognize as modern. Photographs really are experience captured, and the camera is the ideal arm of consciousness in its acquisitive mood.-Susan Sontag

You learn to see by practice. It's just like playing tennis, you get better the more you play. The more you look around at things, the more you see. The more you photograph, the more you realize what can be photographed and what can't be photographed. You just have to keep doing it.-Eliot Porter
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Pentru cei ce cred ca stiu fotografie... - de Dinu Lazar la: 31/12/2003 01:10:39
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
THE POWER OF PHOTOGRAPHY: THE PDN PHOTOGRAPHY ANNUAL 2004

You will see the most compelling, provocative, emotional work of the year plus there will be reviews of the most significant stories in photography today. All entries must be postmarked before February 15, 2004. A panel of renowned judges will select the final images from the following eight categories:

CATEGORIES
1. advertising
2. magazine, editorial
3. photo books
4. photojournalism, sports, documentary (published and unpublished)
5. corporate design, photo products (brochures, annual reports, calendars, catalogues, music/ CD covers, book covers, movie posters)
6. personal work
7. web sites
8. student work

LINKS TO ENTER
For submission information and specific category requirements go to:
http://pdnonline.com/contests
To download an entry form go to:
Entry form
To visit last year's gallery go to:
2003 Gallery

EVENT/PRIZES
An award celebration for the winners will take place in May 2004 in New York, New York. The winners and their work will be featured in the May issue of PDN and PDN Online. Additional prizes and sponsors to be announced.

GRANTS/SCHOLARSHIPS/CASH PRIZES
• The Marty Forscher Fellowship Award
• The Marty Forscher Student Fellowship Award
• The Canon Student Explorer of Light Scholarship Award
• The Epson Creativity Award
• The Nikon Storytellers Award
For more information please visit
http://pdnonline.com/contests

JUDGES

Jen Bekman
Jen Bekman Gallery

Michelle Bogre
Chairperson, Department of Photography
Parsons School of Design

David Carol
Director of Photography
Viacom Outdoor

David Cicconi
Photo Editor
Travel & Leisure

Patrick Donehue
Vice President of Creative Photography
Corbis

Sara Galkin
Art Buyer
Ogilvy & Mather

Melissa Harris
Editor
Aperture

Michelle Jackson
Art Producer
Grey Worldwide

Cory Jacobs
Photography Director
SPIN


SEND ENTRIES TO:
Photo District News
770 Broadway - 7th Floor
New York, NY 10003
Attn: John Gimenez

Please make checks payable to Photo District News

DEADLINE
All entries must arrive in our New York office by February 15, 2004

QUESTIONS
Please email your questions to John Gimenez at jgimenez@pdngallery.com or call 646-654-5792.

We look forward to receiving your entries!
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