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. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Intr-adevar, sunt unele carti - de (anonim) la: 30/06/2004 03:46:49
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Intr-adevar, sunt unele carti care m-au impresionat. Printre ceel are imi vin in minte in orice moment sunt: Jar de Liviu Rebreanu, Accidentul de Mihail Sebastian, Parfumul de Patrick Suskind si Veronica se hotarateste sa moara de Coelho. Sunt carti ce le-as citi in orice moment fara sa ma plictisesc.
o carte a lui Dan Dungaciu - de (anonim) la: 21/07/2004 03:40:58
(la: Adevarata sursa de anti/americanism este Rusia)
Doar semnalez o carte de forta
Dan Dungaciu - Natiunea si provocarile (post)modernitatii, Editura Tritonic, 2004, 500 pag., 300 000 lei.

Merita! Ema Word are dreptate!
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Astea da carti! - de mya la: 01/08/2004 10:30:33
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Carti care CHIAR mi-au influnetat viata intr-un mod pozitiv:
- "Autobiografia unui yogin" de Paramahansa Yogananda;
- "Saints that Moved the World" de Rene Fulop-Miller;
- "Man is wolf to man" (Surviving Stalin's Gulag) de Janusz Bardach si Kathleen Gleeson.
cartea ta - de ellisa11 la: 02/08/2004 16:25:37
(la: Se cauta un scriitor! Gasitorului buna recompensa!)
...de-abia astept sa te salvez!
Am citeva concursuri literare cistigate , am ceva scenarii vandute , nu am inca CARTEA !
Te astept, imi doresc sa colaboram !
Iti multumesc !
Cu respect ,
Daniela
carti de capatii - de (anonim) la: 09/08/2004 13:21:29
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Intr-adevar,o carte poate ascunde multe comori...Ma gindesc la Borges,in special,cind spun asta...Si la Dostoievski,Mallarme,Rilke,Tagore,etc...Sa invatam sa-i citim cu mintea si cu inima...
Gabi ,man.. - de Jay la: 12/08/2004 20:36:58
(la: Spune-ti of-ul si primeste zeci de sfaturi)

Asta e foarte frumos:

"Ma, placerea mea nu e nula, ba dimpotriva, insa uneori imi place sa iubesc asa, de departe, sau pur si simplu sa stau cu femeia in brate."

Fara suparare,imi aduci aminte de liceu.Erau unele fete care aveau doi prieteni: unul care o iubea de departe si o plimba prin parcuri,saruturi romantice, mozoleli turbate si altul care termina treaba in pat ,seara.

Esti un revoltat,man,Dumnezeu a "programat" oamenii sa vrea tot timpul
sa se inmulteasca.Pentru asta traiesc barbatii, sa se gandeasca numai la ce mai pompeaza , cum,cat si cand. Toata viatza se invarte in jurul sexului,si tu zici ca nu vezi nici o finalitate ? :-)

Tao, citeste o carte de Tao. Sau viagra. A propos, a iesit si viagra pentru femei,ceva din plante dar cu batzaiala.Si mai sunt multe proiecte
pentru a repara marea nedreptate sa se fi inventat stimulentul divin numai pentru barbati.

A propos,acum cateva zile la MSN,scria ca un baiat din Romania
isi ofera penisul la vanzare ( pentru transplant) zicea ca tine, ca nu vede nici o finalitate in el si ca e foarte sarac si are nevoie de bani.
Aproape imi dau lacrimile cand ma gandesc la asta.

Ce se intampla in Romania? De ce?

Numai Bine




Cartile ce ne-au marcat exist - de nelu1954 la: 24/08/2004 21:21:02
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Cartile ce ne-au marcat existenta sunt primele carti " adevarate" ,chiar daca nu au o valoare universala,as amintii aici " Cavalerii Teutoni "
O carte, un loc - de homeless la: 31/08/2004 18:35:13
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Cartile ajung in mainile noastre printr-un miracol pe care nu am reusit sa mi-l explic. Si nu ma refer la momentul in care le cumparam, sau le imprumutam, sau le furam - de cele mai multe ori ele ne marcheaza existenta si prin asocierea cu momentul si locul in care le citim.

Toamna patriarhului am citit-o in armata. Un univers concentrationar, oricit de "civilizat" ar fi locul cu pricina. Povestea dictatorului a tot puternic, dar lipsit de adevarata implinire, era si povestea mea, a celui care de abia incepea sa inteleaga ca libertatea pe care trebuie sa o obtina este una interioara.

Seniorii razboiului (Gerard Klein) am citit-o, era singura carte disponibila, intr-un cantonament. Ma pregateam pentru participarea la un campionat national si de acolo, dintr-un roman SF nu tocmai celebru, am invatat sa lupt pina la capat, sa dau totul din mine.

Muntele vrajit l-am citit pe patul spitalului. Nu stiam despre ce este vorba, asa ca nu am ales cartea in mod intentionat. Modul in care suferinta si mizeria umana pot fi transformate in frumos m-a indemnat sa scriu pentru prima data o poveste.

Cvartetul din Alexandria l-am citi cumva pe fuga, in timp ce traiam propria mea poveste de iubire. Dupa ce am terminat primul volum si, din cel de-al doilea, am inteles ca iubirea inseamna si curiozitate, si tentatie a pacatului, si ca ea poate fi traita diferit de cei doi parteneri, chiar daca totul se intimpla la intensitate maxima, am reusit sa supravietuiesc unei despartiri dureroase.

Aceleasi carti am avut ocazia sa le discut cu prietenii mei. Iar ei le citisera in alt context, pentru ei insemnasera cu totul si cu totul altceva. Poate ca asa pot fi definite cartile mari, indiferent de stilul in care au fost scrise, sunt carti care pot sa ofere fiecaruia ce are nevoie, pot fi intelese intr-o infinitate de moduri.
Ultima carte? - de ampop la: 01/09/2004 08:45:55
(la: La frontiera de suprematie economica)
Vive la France, vive la republique! "Americanii au jucat ultima carte de suprematie în Irak, asta numai pt a castiga "teren" în fata marii Europe care se contureaza , mai încet , dar cu pasi siguri. " iar in EU Franta va fie leader, mai ceva ca sub Napoleon. Visul etern de marire francez..."Kerry are radacini franceze." :) Socialismul / social democatia european/a este victorio(a)s(a) si, curios, se face din nou legatura acestuia cu democratii americani. De unde si pana unde fratia democrato-socialista? Oare se uita faptul ca democratii americani sunt plasati mai la "dreapta" fata de socialistii europeni? Faptul ca ei pun accentul pe latura sociala nu ii face chiar deloc socialisti sau social-democrati. Si sa nu mai vorbim despre social-democratia romaneasca a lui Nastase si Iliescu, care este intr-adevar "originala", de neregasit in lumea civilizata, mai degraba o democatie sud-americana sau central-americana. Doar integrarea "fortata" a Romaniei in UE ar aduce un dram de normalitate. Va castiga oare Nastase sau "good old secu' guys" o sa-l puna pe linie moarta pe 4 ani si o sa-l scoata pe Stolo castigator? Vom vedea, nu sunt atat de increzator in victoria lui Bombonel. Foarte optimist esti si privitor la victoria lui Kerry..."...si asa va fi" :).Nici in aceasta privinta nu as fi chiar asa de sigur. Cat despre "ultima carte" ...mai trebuie sa treaca ceva vreme pana Franta va domina lumea sau... lumea va mai exista pe atunci?
Mario
Carte de neratat - de mya la: 01/09/2004 10:54:32
(la: Maria Tanase)
Tocmai am terminat de citit o carte foarte ca lumea dedicata special Mariei Tanase. E despre viata si cariera ei si descrie si Bucurestii anilor respectivi - extraordinar de frumos.

Cartea a aparut cu cateva luni in urma si e scrisa de fostul impresar al cantaretei Gaby Michailescu (care a trecut de 90 de ani...cred). Am aflat de aparitia cartii din pura intamplare. Tatal meu se tunde la acelasi frizer la care se tunde si Gaby Michailescu. Ca o paranteza frizerul respectiv (pe nume Nechita - 83 de ani) isi are atelierul in zona Gradina Icoanei (Bucuresti) si a fost pe vremuri pilot de aviatie (pana sa vina comunistii la putere). S-a facut frizer...ca sa nu moara de foame.

Ei bine, frizerul respectiv are multi clienti in etate (oameni speciali, fosti intelectuali, mosieri, etc....unii care s-au intors de la canal...). Acolo in pravalie expusese pe un perete un afis reclama cu cartea respectiva si tatal meu...cand a intrat pe usa, a dat nas in cas cu Gaby Michailescu care povestea de carte. Pravalia e mica si are un aer special, e parca din alte timpuri -lumea acolo e calda si intra repede in vorba. Uite asa...din una in alta tata s-a interesat de carte. Pe urma mi-a scris un E-mail, eu i-am dat comanda (sa mi-o cumpere) si el mi-a trimis-o in Germania (unde locuiesc momentan).

Pe mine m-a amuzat teribil cartea, eu zic ca trebuie musai citita. Imi place mult Maria Tanase, stiu si cateva piese, le cantam cu bunica mea cand eram copil (suna ridicol acum cand scriu...dar asa este!).

Ascult relativ rar (recunosc) insa cu mare placere, e drept!

Cartea lui Liiceanu - de Adrian Marchidann la: 10/09/2004 14:17:34
(la: Gabriel Liiceanu)
Liiceanu este o persoana cu o claritate a gandirii si expresiei cum rar gasim in Romania ori peste hotare.

Am incercat sa citesc cartea lui. Am ajuns pana la jumate cred. A inceput bine, desi ideile despre iluzia existentei parca mi se pareau cunoscute de undeva. Despre depresie am invatat in facultate, asa ca nu era ceva nou pentru mine.

Cam sarea de la o idee la alta, de la o intamplare la alta. M-am intrebat daca ceea ce relata are vreo relevanta pentru mine. Nu prea avea, asa ca am pus-o la loc in raft.

Sper sa reiau lectura altadata. Din principiu, daca o carte nu-mi place, o citesc de doua ori. Poate mi-a scapat ceva.
Cartile tale - de LMC la: 14/09/2004 01:39:57
(la: inginer mecanic)
Cartile mentionate sint foarte bune. "Engineer-In-Training Reference Manual" tot de Michael Lindeburg http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0912045566/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_f/102-9842475-7948132 este cartea de care vei avea nevoie cel mai mult.

Nu este tirziu nici acuma sa-ti faci rost de relatii. Daca poti dovedi ca ai lucrat in firma asta si daca poti sa-ti faci rost de scrisori de la supervisors atunci esti okay. Si desenatorii pot sa spuna ca au lucrat la proiecte, chestia este ca dupa ce dai testul neaparat trebuie sa lucrezi cu ingineri P.E. altfel ai incurcat-o. Sint sigura ca vei face fata la test, asa ca nu te alarma. Cum ti-am zis, chiar daca nu treci din prima macar ai capatat experienta, nimeni nu te condamna, iar testul poti sa-l iei de cite ori vrei. Cartea care ti-am referit-o are si Solutiile http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/091204540X/ref=pd_bxgy_text_1/102-9842475-7948132?v=glance&s=books&st=
astea doua sint cartile din care a studiat sotul meu, si sa stii ca merita sa ti le iei daca nu le ai. El si acuma le mai rasfoieste.
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Carti si Coca Cola - de Myriam la: 15/09/2004 23:55:55
(la: Ce regretati de pe vremea lui Ceausescu?)
Cand reuseai sa-ti cumperi o carte pe care ti-o doreai era un sentiment teribil, iti venea sa dormi cu ea sub perna sau sa o porti cu tine toata ziua. Erai parca alt om, unul cu noroc, mai liber, mai altfel.
Hm, si cand faceai rost de o Coca Cola, o degustai indelung si parca toata America visata ti se scurgea in trup.
Ce nebunie de sentimente. Invariabil iti vine sa zambesti acum cand ai o tona de carti langa tine si mai mult ca sigur si un bidon de cola...
Myriam
Carte CATIA in limba romana - de (anonim) la: 20/09/2004 15:31:20
(la: Cum pot publica un mesaj?)
Carte de CATIA disponibila in limba romana:
http://www.cartemax.s5.com
Cursuri de CATIA:
http://www.promanagement.ro/cursuri/curs.asp?id=83&tip=indef
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Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta - de camyb1981 la: 22/09/2004 12:41:48
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
camyb1981

La fel de adevarat ca faptul ca unele carti ne marcheaza existenta e si acela ca fiecare carte are timpul ei, momentul ei... daca nu esti pregatit sau nu ai citit altceva anume inainte, pur si simplu nu merge. Acum citiva ani am incercat de doua ori fara succes sa citesc "Conditia umana" a lui Malraux, dar pur si simplu n-am putut continua, n-aveam nici o tragere de inima. Dupa aproape un an de la a doua incercare, am reluat lectura si nu m-am dezlipit de ea pina n-am ajuns la sfirsit, si asta fara nici un efort. Nu fusese timpul ei.
Sint multe carti dupa care n-am mai fost in totalitate aceeasi: "De veghe in lanul de secara"(J.D. Salinger), "Crima si pedeapsa" (Dostoievski), "Spuma zilelor" (B.Vian), "Un veac de singuratate"(G.G. Marquez), "Micul Print"(A.de Saint-Exupery)...si mai sint destule, nu neaparat in ordinea asta si nu in egala masura, dar din fiecare am ramas cu ceva pentru suflet, nu doar pentru creier, ceva de care-mi amintesc cu drag sau cu spaima, cu nedumerire sau cu dezgust, dar toate mi-au dat o lectie de viata...
fie cartea cat de grea....e bine daca-i a ta.... - de cosmacpan la: 23/09/2004 19:21:19
(la: Gabriel Liiceanu)
Ca de fiecare data, momentele de bucurie trebuie sa le gasim singuri, caci « Dumnezeu iti da, dar nu iti baga si in traista ». Cat de frumos suna : am auzit de noua carte a Dlui Liiceanu ….Intr-adevar este, merita citita, merita cumparata pentru a putea fi recitite pasaje si cel mai crunt adevar merita uitata. Da, nu sunt nici rau nici meschin dar pentru mine acesta-i adevarul. Caci Dl. Liiceanu ne prezinta strigand in gura mare : « imparatul e gol ». Cu umor fin si grav, cu delicatete, cu duiosie, cu incapatanare si cu cea mai adanca ironie ce trece pe langa bascalie (vezi momentul balcanismului Dinescian - Iliescian). Daca discipolul simte inca lipsa maestrului, tatal simte singuratatea convorbirilor telefonice (cu Japonia care nu este altceva decat universul Fiului sau). Deci aceasta carte nu face altceva decat sa ne prezinte radiografia unui om poate obisnuit (in singuratea lui, indiferent daca este metafizica sau nu) dar sigur neobisnuit. Si pentru ca este om, este supus greselilor si ca orice « avocat al diavolului » trebuie gasita si fisura sau fisurile prin care sa treaca picatura de sudoare sau lacrima sincera a omului gresitor (caci trebuie sa ne amintim ca omul poate fi sub vremi sau in afara lor).
...carti ce ne-au marcat existenta.. - de viitoruleuropei la: 25/09/2004 21:30:05
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
...nu stiu daca exista o astfel de carte, si asta nu pentru ca nu citesc indeajuns...insa daca ar exista o astfel de carte care mi-ar fi marcat existenta, aceea ar fi "Amurgul Gandurilor", o carte pe care ar trebui s-o citim cu totii...am invatat ca viata si credinta, nu este totul...ca nu inseamna totul, si ca tot omul e singur...cu el...
cartea marele mister.... - de cosmacpan la: 25/09/2004 21:37:25
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Cartea, marele mister
Deruland mesajele acestei sectiuni trebuie sa marturisesc ca am doua bucurii si o tristete (ca in patru nunti si o inmormantare). Prima bucurie este ca nu sunt singurul contaminat cu acest virus « vorbulitza de la Alice: fugi cat te tin picioarele, 'chestiile (astea) interesante' dau dependenta. eu nu cautam nik pe net, cand am dat de teroarea, extazul si umilinta ultimului an din viata mea. fugi, om bun, ca-i mai rau decat orice drog » (si e vorba de virusul numit carte si nu cafenea), a doua bucurie e ca am reusit sa-mi « infectez si copii cu acelasi virus » caci numai o nebunie poate sa te indemne sa mai cumperi carti pe care sa le si citesti cand poti afla mult mai repede si usor tot felul de lucruri de la tv-u. Tristetea consta in faptul ca de multe ori uitam si incepem sa ne « fudulim » cu ce avem. Pentru mine cartea este un mister, este ceva plin de viata care te cauta si te gaseste (si nu invers cum s-ar putea crede). De ce spun acest lucru : pentru ca am tavalit in avalansa uitarii carti deosebite (pentru care nu eram inca pregatit) si au fost momente de vraja si mister cand am pus mana pe ea si nu am mai lasat-o sa-mi scape. De ce am pus mana ? pentru ca-mi facea cu ociul ? pentru ca ma atragea ca un magnet ? mister, suspans…nebunie. Sunt carti pe care le recomand si carti pe care le vreau uitate. De ce uitate ? din doua motive : unele sunt ca un cutremur devastator si simt ca n-as putea sa le mai citesc odata sau macar sa le frunzaresc (cum poetic marturisea de Arcturus - 16/04/2004 - O asa carte nu poate fi citita decat cu un sentiment de "inaltare in abisurile nebuniei umane".) iar celelalte sunt oglinda sufletului meu si recunosc ca ma doare sa vad cata uscaciune si uraciune zace si colcaie acolo, in mine.
Dar intotdeauna am avut momente si trairi si indiferent daca am trait toata « viata pe un peron » sau « in lanul de secara » intotdeauna mi-am amintit ca la « rasarit de eden » trebuie sa fie cateva « dune ». cand voiam sa plang imi aminteam « ce verde era valea mea » si-mi dadeam seama ca nu suntem decat « oameni si soareci » in acelasi timp, chiar daca suntem in « zbor deasupra unui cuib de cuci » Obraznicia facea din mine « omul care rade » iar cunoscutii ma alintau in deradere cu : ce a mai citit « magicianul ». Iar eu « Don Quijote » imi permiteam sa le raspund ca « jocul cu margele de sticla » a fost inventat pentru a tine minte numarul celor « o mie si una de nopti » iar toate « basmele » si « povestile » lor nu ma ating. Caci eram si sunt « idiotul » care la fel ca « alchimistul » speram sa gasesc « pendului lui foucault » undeva la baza, la « fundatia » lumii. Dar « numele trandafirului » staruia ca o grimasa pe buzele lor ce sopteau privindu-ma ingaduitor « asa grait-a zarathustra » si nu intelegeau ca eu dupa ce asistasem la « fenomenul pitesti » ma chinuiam sa descopar in « jurnalul fericirii » « enigma otiliei ». dupa ce raspundeam la intrebarea « cum am ajuns scriitor » cautand printre « amintiri din copilarie » « casa budenbrock » de pe « muntele vrajit » caci « maestrul si margareta » lui plecasera dupa « vrajitorul din oz » care se afunda in desisul preeriei dupa « winetoo » iar « coliba unchiului tom » era neancapatoare ca si « insula cu elice » sau « hanul ancutei ». De multe ori, noaptea pe cand « soldatul sjvek » patrula intrebandu-se « pentru cine bat clopotele », stateam ca « omida » si ma intrebam, ce face « colectionarul » daca eu raman in stadiul de larva iar « batranul si marea » sopteau : « mizerabilii », iar au aruncat « cei patru cavaleri ai apocalipsului » « valul pictat » incat o sa vezi numai « orizonturi rosii ». Dar « de la pamant la luna » e-o cale atat de lunga ca mii de ani i-au trebuit minciunii sa ajunga.
Lasand gluma proasta la o parte trebuie sa recunosc ceea ce am mai spus : nu cartile ne marcheaza existenta, ele doar ne arata ca existam, ne arata cum suntem, unde suntem si unde am vrea sa fim. La fel ca multi dintre voi am cartile mele pentru momentele de singuratate, de tristete de bucurie, cartile care imi sunt dragi si pe care nu este nevoie sa le iau cu mine pe o insula caci le port tot timpul cu mine, traiesc in mine, cresc in mine. Este cea mai teribila simbioza :
Caci fara ele as murii iar fara mine-s moarte.

Deschid fereastra si ma vad, sunt Narcis, tu esti lacul
Prin randuri-valuri ma strecor, ma regasesc, sunt altul.
O noua carte am deschis, Sesam, ce-mi dai tu oare?
O usa-n spate s-a inchis, vlastar - altoi ce doare……..

carti/tv - de desdemona la: 29/09/2004 15:54:13
(la: Ce regretati de pe vremea lui Ceausescu?)
Nimeni nu te obliga sa te uiti la TV. Dar TVul e o slabiciune careia ii cazi prada usor, si te face sa iti pierzi vremea, daca nu e de calitate. E guvernat de canapea si de legea efortului minim. Pentru adolescentii care doresc sa se amuze solutia de care ai vorbit tu (libraria) nu exista, cat timp nu au invatat niciodata cum sa citeasca o carte, fiind mult mai usor sa stai la TV. Efortul pentru a citi e mai mare, trebuie sa intorci paginile, si sa iti si imaginezi scenele.

Desdemonovici
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