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duceti-va la goolge earth, si - de Horia D la: 19/10/2005 21:19:44
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "6")
duceti-va la goolge earth, si download!! awsome!!
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google earth - de Mi7haela la: 20/10/2005 14:32:24
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Timisoara se vede foarte bine. Adresa este: http://earth.google.com/ si faci de acolo download
GOODIES - de ygrec la: 17/12/2003 06:07:29
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
I am the daughter of the Earth and water,
And the nurseling of the sky..
I passed through the Oceans and shores,
I changed…but I never die.


Shelley : The cloud
lui Florin si atat - de Little Eagle la: 15/03/2004 17:52:33
(la: Cat va ramane din salariu?)
My friend,

imi pare rau ca nu s-au publicat cele 2 texte ale mele trecute,poate pt. ca erau total in engleza? In fine,admin are drept de cenzura. Ha!
Iti multumesc pt raspuns la textul meu legat de natura.M-ai intrebat de Ozzy Osbourne si gasesc ca este apropiat sa-ti raspund(daca se va publica) la acest subiect legat de salariu.
desigur este prea greu sa scriu in citeva cuvinte viata lui Ozzy,o carte si nu e de ajuns dar desigur ca e o legenda rock si numele lui e f. cunoscut oriunde pe glob.

Ozzy s-a nascut pe 3 Dec. 1948 in Birmingham(UK) intr-o familie f.f. saraca compusa din alti 6 frati si surori si impreuna cu parintii locuiau intr-o singura...camera,o sirma cu o patura pe ea dadea un fel de separatie intre parinti si copii.Totul era in acea camera deci si un aragaz,WC ul in curte.tatl lui
a muncit ca miner,iar mama casnica mai cistiga spalind rufe pt. vecini.
Tatal era alcoolic.Ozzy si fratii lui aveau doar o singura pereche de pantofi..si ca sa mearga la scoala o faceau pe rind,fiecare purtind acei pantofi intr-o anumita zi.

Nu a terminat decit scoala generala,a suferit si sufera de dislexie,nu se poate concentra mai mult de citeva min. la un subiect si de aceea si vorbeste cam peltic si incurcat insa cind cinta este perfect.

A facut destule prostii in copilarie si fost si inchis o vreme pt. furt de televizoare.
Marea lui ambitie a fost de a deveni muzician exact ca idolul lui ce inca ii este,John Lennon.

In 1966 la 18 ani impreuna cu alti 3 prieteni din acelasi oras formeaza un grup ce si-l numesc"Polka Turk" si incep sa cinte prin restaurante si birturi blues.
Cei 3 prieteni: Tony Iommy(ghitara),Geezer Butler(bas),Bill Ward(tobe).
Nu cistiga mult dar e o experienta pt. toti,anul urmator isi schimba numele la"Earth"si la fel continua "turnee" prin birturi si localuri cintind hituri din acea vreme ale altor muzicieni.Un impresar le ofera contract si ajung sa cinte si in Hamburg la chiar Star cafe unde au cintat cu ani in urma Beatles.MUnca multa si zilnic de cite 7 ori pe scena.Ajunsesera sa repete repertoriul neavind alte cintece de cintat si lumea nu le dadea atentie,vroia sa auda o muzica de dans doar.

Frustrati cei 4 decid sa scrie propriile lor cintece si in 1969 cu doar 400 pounds
inregistreaza primul lor LP.Va deveni o revolutie in istoria muzicii rock in lume!!!In Nov. 13 apre pe piata albumul "BLACK SABBATH" si ulterior si-au schimbat numele grupului de la Earth la BLACK SABBATH ideea venindu-le intr-o seara urmarind filmul cu acelasi nume cu Boris Karloff si un f. tinar actor la primul lui film....Jack Nicholson.

Si asa s-a nascut o legenda ce dainuie si azi dupa...35 ani,putine grupuri in lume pot exista in mare succes atiat timp!

Albumul 2 le-a pecetluit statutul de mare grup rock,ultra faimosul "Paranoid" care in 2 sapt. a devenit imediat disc de aur si au inceput sa capete atentia cuvenita,la TV si concerte mari pe stadioane in UK si USA.
Au devenit din niste saraci ultra bogati si faimosi.Alte mari LP uri au urmat in numar de 7 din care "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" a devenit amprenta muzicii si gindirii lor.

Datorita abuzului excesiv de droguri si alcool Ozzy a fost dat afara din grup
toti consumau excesiv dar nu chiar ca el.Devenise de inlocuit acum.
Ozzy insa a fost salvat de Sharon Arden,fiica impresarului de atunci al grupului.Ea l-a luat sub grija ei in 1979 si Ozzy s-a pus pe dezintoxicat si format propriul lui grup ce-i poarta numele.In 1980 scoate Lp ul"Blizzard of Ozz" care instantaneu devine mega hit si dublu platina,alte dicuri vor veni cu lirica si muzica scrise de el.Toate dublu platina.

Continua sa bea totusi si sa consume droguri,de peste 5 ani insa e complet free of them.Sharon vine cu ideea de a face un serial real life with the Osbournes si este televizat la MTV si devine instantaneu mare hit.Ozzy capata steaua celor celebri pe sunset boulevard.E invitat la dineu la casa alba si cinta pt. regina Angliei la Jubileu.
Cu ani in urma Sharon care-i sotia lui din 1982,a creat celebrul festval rock"Ozzfest"si aici vechii membrii si acum din nou prieteni din BS fac reuniuni pe scena cintind celebrele lor hituri intrate in istoria muzicii si care au influentat o multime de mari grupuri ce au venit dupa ei.

Anul trecut Ozzy are un mare accident si ajunge in spital cu clavicula rupta,o vertreba la ceafa rupta si 7 coaste rupte,operatie si azi e Ok dar a declarat ca nu va mai putea cinta deloc si se va retrage din muzica.
Accidentul l-a avut conducind pe proprietatea lui din sudul Angliei(un vechi castel din sec.18)o motocicleta de teren cu 4 roti care s-a rasturnat peste el.
Ozzy si familia locuiesc in Beverly Hills in zona cea mai bogata dar au si alte case prin florida si California si in afar de castelul din Anglia,mai au si o ferma .
Azi, averea lui Ozzy este de 143 milioane de $.Si-a ajutat parintii si fratii si inca ii ajuta si face mari donatii pt. copii cu cancer ori muscular distrophy.

Multe am omis pt. ca e imposibil sa scriu totul despre el,cert este ca a reusit in viata si si-a implinit visul,pornind de la a nu avea pantofi la avea tot ce-si doreste!O reala poveste a unui muzician,si sa nu uitam ca nici Beatles ori the Stones au avut totul de la inceput si au avut mai nimic de fapt.

Black Sabbath au venit cu un stil nou in 1969 cind era curentul hippy,un stil grav si puternic si LOUD,au spus adevarul despre tineretul pierdut de atunci
fara mari perspective in viata,dar si despre realitatea cruda a vietii si politica de razboi(Viet Nam).Ozzy obisnuia sa urle pe scena cuvintul"HEAVY' precum tonul muzicii lor si de aici s-a nascut stilul numit de critici pt. a clasa o anume muzica....HEAVY METAL!
De fapt nici unul din grup Nu sa gindit sa-si atribuie vreun stil.au spus ca doar isi cinta sentimentele asa cum vor ei si simt ei,prin muzica vor sa si le exprime.

Altele despre Ozzy poate altadata,numai bine,

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy
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Pentru Desdemona - de Florin si atat la: 16/04/2004 13:44:36
(la: Automobile si soferi)
"...destul de comuna ca sa fie inteleasa in sensul ce i l-am atribuit aici." Se pare ca am fost plecat de cam mult din tara si am uitat 'expresia'.

Mi-ai facut mare bucurie sa-mi aduci aminte de poezia lui Rudyard Kipling. Imi place sa o savurez in engleza pentru ca are un inteles mai profund...pentru mine:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!

Nu are rost sa mai comentez la ce ai scris. Inteleg acum ce vrei sa spui...:)

Numai bine
Florin si atat
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Holy ground. - de Little Eagle la: 15/05/2004 16:19:11
(la: Groapa)
Dear brother,

Povestea ta e f. interesanta si parca imi suna in gand ca una de-a fratilor si surorilor mele,indieni-americani.
Cu zile in urma am scris cateva texte despre mine si experiente propii prin care am trecut,mai mult despre ....groapa.
Desigur e un alt context si f. spiritual in traditie si ceremonial,de a sti cine esti
de a te descoperi si la fel de a te trezi in suflet cu Creatia.
Nu ma mai repet aici,poate nu am spus multe insa,dar vei citi textele mele in forum candva.

Vezi tu draga frate,groapa e un cerc,in credinta tuturor indienilor-americani,este un simbol ce reprezinta unirea aceluiasi suflet,ei cred ca,crucea separa oamenii intre ei,la cele 4 colturi ale lumii si deci puncte cardinale.
Separa sufletele intre noi,nu ma intelege gresit si sa tragi o concluzie pripita,
poporul meu crede in Iisus si Dumnezeul crestin,pt. ca il vad ca fiind acelasi,ei il numesc Great Spirit,ori The Provider for all races and nations and colors in the whole Creation.

Nu am scris despre mine pana acum cu zile in urma,cine sunt si doar am vorbit lucruri obisnuite ale lumii,o iluzie de fapt.
Mi-a fost teama cumva ca voi fi inteles gresit si ca unii din voi frati si surori dragi ma veti judeca,pt. ca nu sunt roman in spirit ca voi.Dar a venit vremea sa-mi pun culorile pe fata si piept si sa fiu in fata voastra ceea ce sunt in mine
si sa strig la cer cantecul meu.

Am fost adoptat in tribul navajo(hopi)acum 16 ani in urma.NU oricine este primit.Si mai ales cineva alb!dar batranii din consilul tribal m-au acceptat imediat,si Elder-ul(chief)mi-a spus doar atat:"welcome home".

Am mai scris ca nu ma consider roman,sufletul si spiritul imi spune ca apartin natiei navajo,dar iubesc toate natiile deopotriva,toate triburile ramase azi si ieri.Nu este o coincidenta,este soarta.
Pt. a fi botezat in spiritul indian a trebuit sa trec prin un ritual(ceremonial)personal si este numit Vision Quest.Este singuratatea sufletului in contact cu Creatia,a o simti in tine si ea pe tine prin tine.Cu Marele Creator.

Elder-ul te duce in desert(s-a intamplat in Little Creek-Arizona,nu departe de rezervatie)pe la amiaza,cu ore inainte nu mananci nimic si nu bei decat apa cu putina sare in ea,nu fumezi.
Iti sapi o groapa sa fie rotunda(circle of Creation) cam de 2 metri adancime.
Inainte de a intra in ea,caci vei sta acolo 24 ore,peste noapte(in trecut erau...4 nopti)Elder-ul va face un foc si va spune descantece in limba lui si va folosi "smudge"adica anumite ierburi uscate adunate in manunchi ce ard incet,un fel de indian incense(din India).
Au o aroma anume si sunt ierburi adunate cu mana lui,un secret ce doar el stie,pt. a indeparta spiritele rele ce vor veni sa te atraga de partea lor.
Esti SAFE!Elder-ul danseaza in jurul gropii si spune descantece,la fel imprastie fumul de smudge in jurul ei.Tu intre timp te dezbraci la pielea goala si stai in fata focului,te gandesti la Marele Spirit,meditezi.

Elder-ul are coroana de pene pe cap si e imbracat in haine indiene de ceremonie(altele decat de razboi).Tot timpul cat danseaza in jurul gropii si apoi in jurul tau,NU MAI ESTI IN ACEASTA LUME!!!!!Simti asta in tine si este mai mult decat real!!!!
Apoi iti da un loin cloth(un petic de piele de caprioara)cu care sa-ti acoperi genitalele,te vopseste cu o pana de vultur in culori ale pamantului(Mother Earth),si depinde de trib,fiecare are culorile lui,eu am fost vopsit de la nas la frunte in alb si de la nas in jos in negru.
Inseamna ca mintea e libera ca si spiritul tau si in jos este doar un trup care este un vehicol prin care se exprima sufletul tau,de aceea e negru.Este impur.

Apoi intri in groapa sapata de tine insuti,este de fapt mormantul tau si viata ta in acelasi timp si bunicul(elder-ul)iti va da ramasite din foc,lemne arse si pana de vultur cu care te-a vopsit.Vei sta in mijlocul gropii tale turceste si cu pana in maini.Inainte(depinde de trib),te picteaza cu linii rosii orizontale pe piept si apoi una neagra transversala.Toate culorile sunt din plante si rasini sau scoarte de copavi si ierburi.
Trebuie sa fii impreuna cu Creatia in acest Vision Quest.

Inainte de a intra in groapa,vei fuma peyote,e un drog dintr-un cactus si de milenii folosit de indieni in astfel de ceremonial.
Te ajuta sa treci peste noapte.Fumezi din o pipa de lut speciala si veche din care multi altii au fumat inaintea ta.Este sacra si veche de milenii .Vei fi in spirit cu toti in acea groapa.Ei te vor ghida spre drumul tau catre tine insuti si Marele Spirit Creator,Dumnezeu!

Nu vei dormi toata noaptea!Vei avea viziunea ta personala,vei fi atacat de spirite rele,dar fumul de la smudge le va tine departe de tine,nu trebuie sa-ti fie teama,de fapt acum ....vei deveni un REAL RAZBOINIC,esti renascut din Mother Earth si vei descoperi CINE esti!
Vei intelege sa plangi,sa iubesti pe aproapele tau,vei descoperi dragostea
pt. Creatia toata,vei lupta daca e necesar sfidand moartea pt. libertatea poporului tau si al tuturor,moartea NU exista decat pt. cei lasi!
Daca mor intr-o zi ,cand voi fi chemat de soarta deja am facut pregatiri sa fiu ars in spiritul credintei Cheyenne.

Sunt pregatit in fiecare zi sa mor si nu imi e frica de moarte,e parte din existenta mea,o accept oricum ar veni.Ma voi picta pe fata sa o sperii,Marele Spirit ma va recunoaste dupa culori.
Stiu ca scriu mult si obositor multora,in curand voi pleca din cafenea,am spus tot ce aveam de spus,pt. mine e finalul cercului nostru,nu gasesc ca sunt alte subiecte de povestit,ne repetam mereu si nu are sens.

La un sweat lounge,spui ce ai de spus si ai incheiat totul.Nu cred ca mai exista nimic de spus aici,cel putin pt. mine.

Groapa exista!O duci in tine si stai in ea toata viata.Este pt. fiecare din voi,fara sa stiti,un vision quest.

Love&peace,
Ozzy








































































































































the ways of leaving - de Little Eagle la: 18/05/2004 23:20:15
(la: Farewell brothers and sisters)
Dear Brother Destin(a good name,Great Spirit Wakan Tanka ti l-a dat fara sa stii),

Am gandit in acest weekend trecut sa mai stau o vreme cu voi toti si sa mai fumam putin tobacco,dar am incalcat legea.Legea noastra.Peste acest weekend trecut am gandit ca mai pot ramane dar nu o pot face, azi si ieri am scris ultimele texte si ...Destin-ul a ales pe tine sa fii ultimul care va primi ultimul meu text,e scris asa si este menit sa fie asa,the eagle flies free my brother,you can't stop his wings...

Azi ,si este noapte cu stele,ele mi-au vorbit,a fost vant putin si cateva picaturi de ploaie,am stat in gradina si gandit la Marele Spirit,mi-a vorbit si am plans din nou,lacrimi si picaturi de ploaie pe obrajii mei.
Mi-a spus prin Creatia toata ca trebuie sa plec si tu esti ultimul WARRIOR care va purta cuvantul LUI prin mine.

Imi pare sincer rau,toti din cercul cafenelei imi sunteti mai mult decat dragi,NU va imaginati nici in vise cat de mult va iubesc pe toti deopotriva,imi sunteti frati si surori si mereu ma voi gandi cu dragoste la voi toti.

M-ati injurat,m-ati indragit,ori m-ati considerat un excentric,cine sunt eu sa trag concluzii?Ceea ce stiu e ca va iubesc si voi fi in spirit mereu cu voi.
O spun cu sinceritate,si tie draga Frate iti multumesc din suflet pentru cuvintele tale.

A venit timpul sa plec,va iubesc mult si veti fi mereu cu mine in inima,spirit si suflet.Si asta e ,fiti siguri,o certitudine.

Multumesc Daniel pentru tot si la fel Admin.Niciodata nu am fost impotriva voastra si a nimanui,fiti bravi in viata si sa stiti ca fara sa cunoasteti cu totii,fiecare din voi are in par pene de pace si razboi,este legea.
Wakan Tanka este cu voi in voi si in jurul vostru,NU sunteti separati de EL.

Nu esti idealist si visator daca vei crede in dragoste,iubire si pace.Vei intelege sa devii intelept si sa te vezi pe tine in oricine si in toata Creatia.
Imaginati-va ca Bufallow Cow Woman(Creatia toata)este cea mai frumoasa femeie de pe glob!Oare nu veti fi indragostiti de ea?Oare nu vreti s-o protejati si s-o iubiti,sa o aparati chiar sfidand moartea?

Astea mi-au fost cuvintele de incheiere.

Love&peace sisters and brothers,
may the Great Spirit be with you all the time.
Ozzy(Little eagle who cries)
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'If the white man wants to live in peace with the indian,he can live in peace.Treat all men and women alike.Give them all the same law.Give them all an even chance to live and grow.
All we were made by the same Great Spirit Chief.We are all sisters and brothers.The earth is the mother of all people and nations in the world,all we should have equal rights upon it.
If we are all poor is because we are honest."

Great Chief Joseph(Nez perce-iroquois)
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Va iubesc mult,imi sunteti in sange.Acum sunt pictat in culorile mele de alb si negru si am tipat afara in natura cantecul meu,adio dragi prieteni de suflet,surioare si frati,ne vom revedea in alta viata.
Adio Destin,poate faci ca mesajul meu ultim sa ajunga la toti,eu ma voi de-conecta acum.

Little Eagle Who Cries,
numele meu si sunt mai mult ca mandru de el.
























































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LMC/Sunt eu Ozzy - de (anonim) la: 30/05/2004 20:16:36
(la: Despre Alegerile din S.U.A.: De ce trebuie sa votam pt. GWB.)
Draga sora scumpa,

Se pare ca am probleme cu parola si utilizatorul....nu ma pot autentifica de cand Admin a spus ca se fac reparatii la site.
Poate candva.Nu e o problema.
Ti-am scris ieri si raspuns la textul tau,la fel ti-am scris si la subiectul tau legat de arta,acum stiu ca esti artist plastic.Nu stiu in ce masura vor ajunge textele mele la tine si cand?Soarta va decide.

Draga mea,nu am nevoie de Biblie sa-mi spuna cum sa ma comport in viata,fratii mei indieni sunt pamantul si Creatia si la fel esti si tu,suntem acelasi suflet.
Si sa stii ca ei cred in Iisus,il considera un Brave Warrior si la fel un Medicine Man,au un mare respect si dragoste pt. el,mai mult decat voi crestinii.Noi NU vrem religia nimanui,o avem pe a noastra si ea ne spune sa fim frati si surori unii cu altii,sa ne iubim intre noi si sa traim doar in pace,sa impartim cu cei ce nu au,ceea ce avem,daca avem mai mult ca ei.
Sa ne dam viata pt. ei,sa-i iubim deopotriva si indiferent de culoarea pielii,sa fim sinceri cu noi insine si la fel cu toti cei din jur.
Pt. asta NU avem nevoie de Biblie sa ne spuna cum sa ne comportam in viata,NU ne impunem credinta noastra voua si din respect pt. a noastra nici voi sa nu ne obligati sa credem in a voastra.
Nu am nevoie de capitole si numere si evanghelii sa-mi dicteze viata.Numerele nu spun nimic mie.Faptele conteaza si cum gandesti cu sufletul,in rest ,totul e doar vorbarie din care nici voi asa zisi crestini nu mai intelegeti nimic.

Bla bla bla bla bla,asta e ce faceti mereu.
Si din Bla bla bla ati nascut razboaie si suferinta si distrugerea Mother Earth,nu este un lucru bun pt. ca ceea ce faceti se va intoarce impotriva voastra intreit si deja e pe cale daca nu crezi.
Pt. ca atunci cand sunteti in sanul ei,o distrugeti in loc sa o iubiti,vi se pare un decor de cinema.

Ti-am scris destule,din acest moment nu mai are sens sa-ti mai spun nimic.
Intre noi nu mai e nimic de spus,tu ai poteca ta,eu pe a mea,dar remember:suntem acelasi suflet.Si te voi iubi mereu cu sinceritatea inimii mele.

Love&peace,si din suflet cu dragoste pt. tine mereu,intr-o alta viata ne vom intalni din nou.Iti dau acum numele tau adevarat ce l-am avut intr-un vis despre tine,e realul tau nume,sa-l tii minte:"The Woman With A Rock"

I love you,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)
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"We do not want churches because they will teach us to quarrel about GOD.."

Chief Joseph,Nez Perce
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"The spear is a soul.Study the soul first before you use the spear.An evil soul is an evil spear."

Lame Deer
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"Don't try to win and live.Be prepared to die."

Great Chief Crazy Horse
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Poate astea iti vor spune ceva,sora mea"The Woman With a Rock"
Ne vedem si vom vorbi in viata ce vine.Adio














































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The number of the beast/Iron Maiden 1986 - de Little Eagle la: 22/06/2004 22:52:54
(la: Existenta Diavolului)
"Woe to you o earth and sea
for the Devil sends the beast with wrath
because he knows the time is short.
Let he who hath understanding
and reckon the number of the beast
for it is a human number
it's number is six hundred and sixty six.

I left alone,my mind was blank
I needed time to think to get the memories from my mind,
what did I see can I believe that what I saw
that night was real and not just fantasy.

Just what I saw in my old dreams were they
reflections of my warped mind staring back at me,
'cos in my dreams it's always there the evil face that twists my mind
and brings me to despair.

The night was black,was no use holding back
'cos I just had to see was someone watching me
in the mist dark figures move and twist
was all this for real or some kind of hell...

666 the number of the beast
hell and fire was spawned to be released
torches blazed and sacred chants were praised
as they start to cry hands held to the sky.

In the night the fires are burning bright
the ritual has begun ,Satan's work is done
666 the number of the beast
sacrifice is going on tonight.

This can't go on,I must inform the law
can this still be real or some crazy dream
but I feel drawn towards the evil chanting hordes
they seem to mesmerise me...can't avoid their eyes...

666 the number of the beast
666 the one for you and me
I'm coming back I will return
and I'll posses your body and I'll make you burn,
I have the fire,I have the force,
I have the power to make evil take its course..."

British band Iron Maiden.

Love&peace,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)































religion? - de Little Eagle la: 23/06/2004 02:56:45
(la: Sunteti de religie)
Dear brother Red Devil,

NU am nici o religie,nu am nevoie sa am,religia nu inseamna a fi spiritual,inseamna a urma niste reguli si eu sunt un om free,NU am nevoie sa-mi spuna nimeni ca trebuie sa apartin unei religii pt. a crede in Dumnezeu.
Pt. mine insa toate religiile sunt una singura si toate worship the same God,sub diverse nume dar in esenta EL este unic si etern acelasi Grand Father,the one and only without a second.
Va veni o zi in viitor cand lumea toata va realiza asta,la timpul ei, nu-i scris pt. oricine,la fel cum nu toti o sa plecati in masa in ....heaven pt. ca ,credeti in Jesus.
si mai am o surpriza pt. cei religiosi,indiferent de credinte:Nu exista rai si iad!
Sunt simple stari ale mintii prin care oricine va trece la momentul mortii(de fapt moartea nu exista,e o trecere de la o viata la alta).Nu exista nici diavol,oare chiar asa de copii pot fi unii incat sa creada cu adevarat ca exista o ...fiinta cu copite si coarne si chip de tzap?Apoi de ce nu ar crede in zmei si dragoni zburatori pe cer,oh,iaca-ta chiar vazui unul pe fereastra aruncand flacari pe gura si speriind o gramada de lume....si la colt de strada erau si cei 7 pitici ce se cacau pe ei de frica si alba ca zapada violata de niste dracusori.
dar a venit Mighty Mouse si a salvat pe toti cu puterea lui,apoi si Spiderman,Hulk,Superman,Batman.pt. ca daca accepti in mintea ta ca exista
diavol apoi de ce ai nega existenta acestor personaje?

In fine,inchei cu niste vorbe intelepte spuse de un mare indian Chief,Joseph(Nez Perce):

"We do not want churches because they will teach us to quarrel about God,as the protestants and catholics do.We do not want to learn that.
We may quarrel with men sometimes about things on this earth.But we never quarrel about God.We do not want to learn that."
Love&peace,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)





































































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To All my brothers and sisters - de Little Eagle la: 27/06/2004 03:56:25
(la: Native American Indians)
Pt. ca nu veti mai avea de-a face cu mine de acum incolo,va las sa zic asa o mica mostenire din credinta poporului meu.Aceste cuvinte ,sper ca vor gasi un ecou in sufletul vostru.
Din nou si nu fac nici o reclamatie impotriva Admin,sper ca va tipari tot ce am scris azi,am zis,macar ca fiind ultimele mele cuvinte si consider ca am dreptul la ele.Unora li se da o masa buna,si poate o tigara ori o ultima rugaciune.Nu mai fumez,Nu mai beau,Nu mai consum droguri,Nu mananc carne de nici un fel
sunt vegetarian.
Cel putin lasa-ma Admin sa-mi spun ultimele cuvinte,in mod decent si sa nu fiu cenzurat.
Nu-ti fie teama,NU voi spune nimic rau nimanui!

Acestea-s cuvintele mele venite de la poporul meu,macar acum lasa-ma sa vorbesc freely:
Imi pare rau ca nu am rabdarea si timpul de a traduce in R. din engleza,totusi stiu ca voi toti sunteti inteligenti si veti intelege totul.

"When you begin a great work you can't expect to finish it all at once;therefore do you and your brothers press on,and let nothing discourage you till you have entirely finished what you have begun?
Now brother,as for me,I assure you I will press on,and the contrary winds may blow strong in my face,yet I will go forward and never turn back,and continue to press forward untill I have finished,and I would have you do the same....
Though you may hear birds singing on this side and that side,you must not take notice of that,but hear me when I speak to you,and take it to heart,
for you may always depend that what I say shall be true."

Black Hawk(Sauk-Lakota)

" Grandfather says that when your friends die you must not cry.
You must not hurt anybody or do harm to anybody.You must not fight.Do right always.It will give you satisfaction in life.
If the white man wants to live in peace with the indian,he can live in peace.
Give them all the same law.Give them all a chance to live and grow.
All men were made by the same Great Spirit Chief.They are all brothers.
The earth is the Mother of all people,and all people should have equal rights upon it.
You might as well expect the rivers to run backward as that any man who was
born a free man should be contented when penned up and denied liberty to go where he pleases.
If you tie a horse to a stake,do you expect he will grow fat?
If you pen an indian up on a small spot of earth,and compell him to stay there,he will not be contented,nor will he grow and prosper."

Chief Joseph(Nez Perce)

WOLAKOTA,

Ozzy


Ps:Admin inca odata te rog sa publici tot ce am scris azi.
Adios muchachos.










































. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

oed jew | more
Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Pt.LMC/from Ozzy with love - de Little Eagle la: 02/07/2004 03:39:16
(la: PUTEREA RUGACIUNII)
Dear Sis,
Got your faxes,thanks,I believe...I can quit drinking again?Oh well....riders on the storm...the J.D. is still by my working desk...second one,I don't know .

HAVE A DRINK ON ME...
Dar uite....DE CE scriu in engleza????Pt. ca -s beat aproape mort?Pt. ca am devenit...Jim Morrisson din nou si Ozzy?niste betivi si drug addicts si cu toate astea genii in muzica???

Nu e vina ta si a nimanui,e a mea,sunt o fire sensibila,adica daca fac o tampenie,nu-i de ajuns sa-mi cer iertare,trebuie sa ma pedepsesc ori sa o iau pe betii si droguri,nu stiu cum am ajuns sa traiesc ....atatia ani.....?

Sambata ce a trecut dupa ce te-am vorbit asa de rau...a fi artist si boem NU e o scuza a la Ozzy sau Jim...am vorbit la tel. cu fratele meu indian Navajo si mi-a spus ca un prieten comun(Dark Owl) care avea 25 ani si era din tribul comanchee(il aveti voi in CA,e tara lor acolo!)s-a sinucis prin o.d.si coma alcoholica.....am plans pt. el....nu sunt om de atunci,nu mai vreau sa lucrez,vreau sa beau si sa mor maine,I don't give a damn!!!!

Asta sunt.Cum sunt ori ma acceptati ori nu,dar eu va iubesc pe toti deopotriva cu tot sufletul meu....negru,daca va place Ozzy sau Jim atunci desigur ca va va place si de mine.

Am sa-ti scriu darling despre arta si am sa-ti si trimit email daca imi dai adresa,sa vezi ceea ce am pictat si fac azi.NU-ti fie teama de mine!!!!!!!!
NU ai sa dai peste cineva mai sincer ca mine....oricum as fi ....
Cine vrea sa vorbeasca cu mine,aveti deja telefoanele mele scrise lui LMC la indemana.

I love you all si trebuie sa inchei cu un cantec al Grupului meu,Black Sabbath,din 1973....cand Ozzy era cu ei si era sufletul grupului....a fost insa dat afara pt. ca era si devenise pe la 1978 un total betiv si drug addict...nici ca mai putea canta.....ce sa mai zic de Jim Morrisson....la 1970 a murit la 29 ani,cara sticla de whiskey pe scena cand cantas...precum Janice Joplin....e ciudat cum 3 GENII in muzica au murit in acelasi an...1970....Adauga la ei 2 pe Jimmi Hendrix!!!!
N-au apucat 30 ani.......scrie-mi,are importanta ca sunt ce sunt? NU am politica in mine,Poti fi ce vrei tu sa fii,e okay with me,la fel si eu sunt...just a rider in the storm....a traveler in time,who cares about politics in the end?

Hai sa fim toti frati si surori si sa nu ne mai certam si sa ne injuram,are vreun sens?NU!!!!!Si ...vorbesc din...experienta!!!!!!!!
Sa avem discutii sincere si cuminti,la cortul nostru,in cercul nostru intim,si ne spunem TOT ce avem pe suflet,oricat de negru ar fi el,ne curatam prin noi insine,si apoi invatam sa ne iubim pt. ca LOVE IS THE BEST FEELING ON EARTH!!!Got it?Love&peace?from a drunk and a drug addict???Un om ca mine trebuie sa dea lectii?

Magdalena,NU imi cer iertare acum doar tie,ci tuturor pe care i-am ranit prin cuvintele mele la adrersa ta,indirect pe voi toti v-am injurat si NU e corect,Nu este drept...!Un brave warrior nu se comporta asa......dar sufar desrtul de 4 zile,cu 1 luna in urma m-am lasat de fumat complet,de9 luni sunt vegetarian,
Nu am baut decat la mari ocazii.....de 4 zile beau de nu mai stiu de mine....sa ma iau de mana cu alt tip ce am cunoscut cu 10 ani in urma......poate nu mai e nevoie sa -ti dai seama cine e....tot universul stie cine e!!!!!Keith Richards.....

....satisfaction....HELL...It's only Rolling Stones,babe....

Promit sa-ti mai scriu.Multumesc pt. faxes,da-mi adresa si-ti trimit orice flori vrei tu,am crezut ca o cutie de bomboane Godiva(My favorite),va fi ca un sarut
tie.

Love&peace,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)


















































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toate de J.R.R. Tolkien - de desdemona la: 22/07/2004 11:05:07
(la: Care sunt ultimele 5 carti pe care le-ati citit?)
toate de J.R.R. Tolkien (editate de C.Tolkien)
1."Unfinished Tales 1"
2."Unfinished Tales 2"
3."The Lays of Beleriand"
4."The Shaping of Middle Earth"
5."The Lost Road and Other Writings"
(Sunt un fan al 'tatalui' hobbit-ilor !!!)
Pt. Florin si atat - de Little Eagle la: 01/08/2004 00:36:40
(la: Impotenta nationala)
Hey,my friend,

Listen,citeste ce am scris lui Angel,la tematica mea"Is this the end?"
De cand ma stiu prieteni,colegi de elementara,liceu,colegiu,m-au urmat si admirat ca pe un fel de super star,banuiesc ca ceva in mine atrage si influenteaza pe cei din jurul meu,nu-mi pot explica altfel.
Am fost copiat si ca artist si destui si-au insusit stilul meu,pt. ca fie ca primeam note f. mari si toti ar fi vrut sa le aiba,de aceea ma copiau,dar nu este acelasi lucru!Desigur.

aici in Usa am fost copiat pt. ca eram un artist in B.D.de succes si vindeam,la fel,noi veniti ma copiau ca sa fie platiti ca mine si sa aiba si faima,de aceea sa stii ca nu ma mira faptul ca Angel vrea sa para,Ozzy sau Ovi(numele meu real).Si eu emulez pe Ozzy ,sunt un real fan inca din 1970,port exact acelasi tip de ochelari de soare in diverse culori,cu rame rotunde ce si el poarta,de fapt acum 2 luni Sharon(sotia lui)mi-a trimis postal 4 perechi.
Port t-shirts cu Ozzy pe ele si de aceea gandesc ca asa cum fac eu in cazul lui,ar face si cineva oarecare ca Angel.

Nu ma deranjeaza asta atata timp cat ceea ce scrie el nu contravine parerilor mele actuale,pt. ca ,si sa scriu primele versuri ale lui Ozzy la Cantecul lui"Down to earth",ele pot chiar zice destule si pt. cel ce sunt:

"I'm not the kind of person you think I am,
I'm not the antichrist or the Iron Man..."

Adica e o greseala sa judecam the book by its cover.
Asa ca imi dau seama din experienta de afi fost mereu copiat si in centrul atentiei,lumea de amici nu facea o miscare fara sa ma intrebe "ce facem azi Ovi?"
Nici sa am sex in liniste cu o fata nu puteam pt. ca aveam casa deschisa oricui si veneau,mancau,beau,se uitau la TV aveau sex,muzica,fiecare era ca la el sau ea acasa.

Odata eram sub patura cu o gagicuta faina si un prieten a venit sa zica hello fiind in neighborhood,a stat cam 30 min.de chin pt. mine....pt. ca nu-si dadea seama ca e intrus in drama noastra sexuala.Asa erau toti,nu puteam avea practic un moment de pace si calm sufletesc,mereu se intampla ceva.

Banuiesc ca multi oameni au nevoie de cineva ca rol model,fie si drogat sau betiv cum eram eu,la fel cum un om anume e facut sa fie presedinte de tara.
Dar nu ma intelege gresit,niciodata nu am dorit sa fiu mai cu mot ca altul,sunt cum sunt si asta sunt,iti place nu-ti place,e alegerea ta,eu crede-ma ca-ti voi fi prieten chiar daca tu ma refuzi.

Cam astea Florine si atat,imi place cum scrii si te iubesc mult ca pe toti din cafenea,fete si baieti deopotriva.
Trebuie sa ma reintorc la lucru...de 2 zile ma chinui si muncesc in nestire sa-mi construiesc my own web site,sa-mi scanez si sa-mi pun arta veche si noua sa fac un ban in plus cand vara e f. slow in advertising si zac si nu fac nimic 2-3 luni.

De cum voi avea web site am sa o trimit la cafenea pt. voi toti,poate o pasati la altii si imi creste numarul de vizitatori.La fel veti putea vedea si ce fel de arta am facut si fac,creion,tus,uleiuri,dar in contrast cu LMC(arta ei imi place fiind simbolista si uneori expresionista),arta mea este comerciala,pt. ca in ea zac si dolarii,deh!Nu mai traim in 1800 si mai tarziu la Paris si ne complacem in boema vietii artistice.

Sper sa-ti mai scriu de cum am timp liber.

LOVE&PEACE(majusculele nu inseamna tipete ci o intarire a expresiei si mesajului ei pt. omenirea toata).

Ozzy Osbourne







































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Pt.Sorana - de Little Eagle la: 01/08/2004 06:55:18
(la: Is this the end?)
Hi Sorana,

I never come and never go,I am always here.
Multumesc pt. ganduri si daca-mi dai voie,te sarut de peste lumi si tari,distanta ne apropie insa.

Pt. ca apreciezi gandirea pura si sincera,curata in spirit si suflet a fratilor mei indieni,am sa te las acum cu niste vorbe spuse de poate cel mai mare Chief si Warrior ce au cunoscut toate natiile si popoarele de indieni din America....iar daca vei simti pe obraz o lacrima las-o sa-ti ajunga in gura sa-i simti gustul aparte pt. ca este altul...este venit din sange si suferinta,din copilasi omorati doar din vina ca pielea lor e alta culoare....din batrani ce au cazut morti fara sa scoata un icnet de durere,din razboinici ce n-au facut nimic altceva decat sa-si apere familiile si...tara lor,.....acesti reali oameni au suferit si inca sufera in tara lor,dar daca-i vezi vei vedea ce mandri sunt si tacerea lor spune istoria reala a acestei noi lumi....ce va reveni curand lor.

"Cand eram copil de-o schioapa,tribul nostru Lakota-Sioux era stapan peste lumea toata.Soarele se nastea si pleca sa doarma pe pamantul lor...insa omul alb a trimis zeci de mii de soldati in razboi sa ne ucida.....
Unde ne sunt azi razboinicii nostrii?Cine i-a omorat?zUnde sunt azi pamanturile noastre?Cine e stapan pe ele?
Arata-mi un om alb care sa aiba curajul sa fie onest si sa admita ca i-am furat un penny macar din banii lui?!Si cu toate astea,ei spun ca sunt hot.
Ce femeie alba,fie ea singura a fost vreodata insultata de mine ori siluita de mine?Si cu toate astea ,ei ma numesc un indian rau.
Ce om alb m-a vazut vreodata beat?Cine a venit in casa mea si nu a plecat bine hranit si tratat cu respect?Cine oare m-a vazut ca-mi bat sotia sau imi maltratez copii?Oare ce legi am incalcat incat sa fiu condamnat inainte de a ma putea apara in fata minciunilor omului alb?
Oare este un pacat sau o greseala ca-mi iubesc pe cei apropiati mie ca familie si popor indian?
Trebuie sa fiu condamnat doar pt. ca pielea mea are alta culoare decat alba?
Pt. ca sunt un Lakota,un Sioux?Pt. ca m-am nascut acolo unde tatal meu s-a nascut si trait?Pt. ca in orice clipa mi-as da viata pt. poporul meu si tara mea?"

Tatanka Yotanka,The one and only Greatest indian chief of all indian nations,
in traducere:SITTING BULL...si acest mare suflet merita o lacrima sincera sa ajunga la el acolo unde este alaturi de Great Father Spirit,Wakan Tanka.

Si iti mai spun inca o vorba ce o consider o mare filosofie in putine cuvinte la fel zisa de Sitting Bull:
"The earth does not belong to us,we belong to the earth."
Si alte cuvinte mari zise de un alt mare Chief din tribul Nez Perce-Iroquois-Mohawk,Chief Joseph:

"It does not require many words to speak the truth."

Love&peace,

Ozzy






































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Pt. Destin - de Little Eagle la: 06/08/2004 07:25:13
(la: SUFLETUL ESTE NEMURITOR)
Am mai scris de cateva ori si iar repet pt. ca gandesc o mare intelepciune in cuvintele unui om sarac si simplu,care nu a vrut bogatii nici alte lumi si pamanturi,a ales de multe ori sa se retraga ,sa-si conduca tribul departe de lupte decat sa foloseasca el insusi un mod de a pedepsi pe invadatorii englezi,francezi ori...so called americans!Poate un fel de Mahatma Ghandi inainte ca acesta din urma sa se fi nascut.

Dear Destin,tu esti un om intelept,multi in cercul nostru la cafenea avem o inteligenta mare,nu suntem nici dobitoci nici ramasi in urma,desigur ca ne certam mereu unul cu altul/alta,sau altul cu altii si altii cu altul si in final unii cu toti ceilalti de parca there's no tomorrow!

Nu cred ca este necesar.Nu noi ne certam intre noi(ca suflet)ci lasam frau liber ego-ului sa -si exprime tot ce zace in el selfish si raul iese afara mereu,nu e bine.Daca cineva vorbeste si da ex. legate de Jesus,de ce oare trebuie sa critice pe un altul ca si cum este vinovat si ar merita luat la pietre si de ce nu crucificat...?De ce acela ce critica e mereu nervos si suparat impotriva lumii parca?
Atunci unde este pilda lui Iisus?Ce sfaturi si ce invataminte ar fi dat el discipolilor lui sau tuturor,daca i-ar fi luat la palme verbale si mereu urlat la ei si fiind nervos si suparat?Oare nu exista ceea ce se numeste compasiune si intelegere dar si rabdare pt. orice in viata?

Odata Iisus a mai spus ceva legat cu ...palma data pe un obraz si el ar intoarce pe celalalt....
Acum scriu nu neaparat tie Destin ori Enigmescu ori cine stie cine altcineva ci in marele general.Eu personal real as dori sa cred in Dumnezeu sa fiu ca Iisus de ex. dar stiu ca este mai mult decat f. greu,insa incerc si nu ma voi bate niciodata cu pumnii in piept ca sunt crestin de cutare ordin ori credincios in cutare religie sau credinta.
Pt. ca stiu ca a iubi pe Dumnezeu este aproape imposibil si totusi pt. o mana de oameni in tot acest univers nu a fost ori este nerealizabil,pt. ca daca vrei sa te consideri credincios in Jesus de ex. atunci...neaparat TREBUIE(imi pare rau de majuscule,real am dorit sa subliniez importanta)sa traiesti viata lui.....

Intreb de curiozitate daca cineva cunoaste ori a auzit de astfel de persoana?
De aceea sunt retinut si nu spun ca iubesc real pe Dumnezeu,stiu totusi cine este si invat mereu privind in jurul meu natura in care-l vad si mai greu dar incerc...sa-l vad si in oameni,cel mai greu!Pt. ca trebuie sa fii detasat de orice stare de spirit rea si sarenunti la orice manifestare a ego-ului ...e f. greu!!!!

Dar ,exista lucruri mai simple in drumul de a afla pe Dumnezeu si in fapt ...a-l descoperi in tine insuti.Si ele mereu au fost exprimate ca pt. mintea noastra de avatarii lumii,prin pilde si parabole,ca in trecut cand mintea umana nu era chiar asa de ridicata....dar azi inca nu este decat tare putin...si atunci ce face Dumnezeu?
Se coboara la mintea noastra si ne da ceva de gandit o regula,sa zicem in viata.El NU poate vorbi in limbajul lui real unora ca noi,vasta majoritate pe glob si univers,atunci misiunea lui ca avatar(cuvantul in trad din indiana=incarnare directa a lui Dumnezeu in forma umana)devine acea de dascal si te invata sa intelegi la acea anume viata din timp si istorie a lumii de ce a venit si revine si fiecare,pt. ca fiecare societate are un anume grad si nivel de dezvoltare materiala si spirituala,va avea in concordanta,anumite precepte pt. acea vreme,spuse de avatarul de atunci.

Iisus a fost acum 2000 ani,desigur,azi e alta viata si epoca,dar realul sens si mesaj este si va fi si a fost mereu acelasi spus in diverse forme,dar il vezi la fel si la primul avatar(Abraham),apoi Zoroaster,Rama,Krishna,Buddha ce au fost inaintea lui Iisus,si apoi si la Mohamed si in final Baba .Toti au trait intocmai preceptele sfinte,nu vei gasi niciodata in vietile lor o minciuna sau o greseala,astfel de "oameni" sunt avatarii lumii si ei formeaza un anume ciclu istoric,nimic in univers nu este intamplator!

Este destinat!
Sa fac o analogie simpla,gandeste ca tu esti profesor de facultate,oricare ar fi ea.Acum ai o varsta si o experienta de viata si munca si studii si cultura si intelepciune.Deodata te trezesti in fata unor copilasi de clasaIa primara si trebuie sa-i inveti ceea ce stii tu...oare crezi ca vei putea sa le explici in cuvintele tale si termenii la care ai ajuns in studii?In nici un caz!
Pt. ca NU te vor intelege,e ca si cum Einstein ar explica teoria lui unui copil de 7 ani!
Ce faci atunci sa fii inteles?Te cobori la mintea lui si folosesti....parabole,scurte istorioare,in cateva cuvinte(nu ca mine acum de scriu un roman deja!)sa fie pe intelesul lui si neaparat dai un ex. prin tine insuti altfel,la ce buna e vorba daca nu e sprijinita de fapta?

Si cam asa a fost mereu,mesajul mereu acelasi,f. simplu....dar omenirea nu s-a schimbat deloc!De aceea un avatar sa vina NU e de ajuns...

Vorbim mereu de Dumnezeu la cafenea si ce piosi suntem ori mistocari sau atotcunoscatori in toate....si de fapt inca si azi nu stim habar de nimic.
Eu zic asa: hai sa fim cu totii prieteni,sa ne iubim intre noi(hey!NU va ganditi acum la acel Ozzy din trecut fustangiu,okay?)si sa invatam unii de la altii si restul va veni de la sine.

E oare greu?De ce suparari si suferinte chiar aiurea?Oare merita efortul?Nu cred,ganditi acum ce-i mai important?Sa ne injuram unii pe altii ori sa ne iubim si daca odata soarta va fi sa ne puna fata-n fata pe unii din noi,ce fericire ar fi sa ne luam in brate !!!

NU am scris astea deloc cu idea si la adresa ta Destin ori Enigmescu ori oricine din lumea toata!Imi sunteti frati oricum si a va judeca nu-i bine,dar imi pot spune opinia si cine o accepta e okay.Nu am puterea de a judeca....sunt un nimica in acest univers dar asta sunt si chiar un nimica am dreptul sa vorbesc,dar niciodata ca un avatar!

Sper ca la un moment dat limbajul meu din trecut prin care am ofensat pe f. multi si pareri si opinii ce am avut nu au devenit treptat un mijloc de initiativa de exprimare pt. altii...stiu din experienta inca din...scoala generala...

Hey,acum nu vi-o luati in cap!Inca sunt mare fan al amicului Ozzy,port cele 4 perechi de shades(ochelari de soare pt. cei ce nu stiu slang american)trimise de Sharon,unii f. inchisi de soare puternic,altii albastii,altii purple altii pink.
Depinde cum e vremea ii port mereu,si in casa.
La fel imi place muzica lui,si rock si heavy metal si tech-industry,si desigur si The Doors,Motorhead etc.
Asta nu inseamna ca-s un depravat si drogat si antichrist!I am a free man si vreau in viata asta sa fiu cum sunt,in cea care vine poate voi fi cine stie in ce alta tara si poate femeie,poate saraca,poate f. bogata,doar karma stie si sanskaras,altadata va scriu ce-nseamna sanskaras ori samskaras.

Cert e ca sunt fericit cum ,sunt ca iubesc ca am trait din plin si gustat din multe placeri sexuale ale vietii,am suferit in Ro., am avut si clipe fericite acolo dar nu as mai trai acolo deloc.
Deci brothers and sisters,let's be friends,love is all you need...how right was John Lennon.also a Baba Lover!
De la cine credeti ca au venit ideile lui "give peace a chance"si altele?De la cine credeti ca i-au venit ideile si filosofie si politica lui Mahatma Ghandi?
Cine credeti ca l-a invatat sa-si iubeasca aproapele, sa fie simplu dar puternic in gandire si fapta si mai ales onestitate?Cine credeti ca i-a spus ca unica solutie este rezolvarea oricaror probleme pe cale pasnica si prin .....LOVE&PEACE?

Cum am scris la inceputul romanului meu,e vorba despre aceste cuvinte ce in final sunt rezumatul a tot ce am scris acum.
Din pacate nu simt nevoia sa traduc...sper ca cine stie engleza si toti stiti,sunteti inteligenti,vor accepta asta:

"We do not want churches because they will teach us to quarrel about God,
as the catholics and protestants do.We do not want to learn that.
We may quarrel with men sometimes about things on this earth.But we never
quarrel about God.We do not want to learn that."

Chief Joseph(Nez Perce/1840-1904/Iroquois nations)

Nu stiu de ce am scris atatea cand acest mare intelept indian si mare CHIEF a spus totul in cateva cuvinte?

Destin,stii cum sunt fratii mei?Intelegi ce vor sa spuna doar privindu-te in ochi si la fel ii intelegi si tu...putine vorbe,multe doar prin gesturi.Un european ca noi ori chiar si....asa zis american.,da din gura mereu,ca mine,chestia e ca in prezenta lor sunt f. mut,nu am de ce vorbi cand ne putem intelege perfect prin liniste....a fi tacut...e o arta in final...mai vorbim si nu crede ca te-am criticat,ori pe numeni de altfel,departe de mine!!!

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy




































































































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Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908 – 2004), fotograf - OMAGIU - de ovidiusimina la: 11/08/2004 10:54:33
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
« Au fond, ce n’est pas la photo en soi qui
m’interesse. Ce qui je veux c’est de capter une
fraction de seconde du réel »

Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908 – 2004)
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Kingdoms of the world in a moment

Aug 5th 2004, From The Economist print edition
http://www.economist.com/cities/displaystory.cfm?story_id=3071607

Henri Cartier-Bresson, whose photographs defined the
20th century, died on August 3rd at the age of 95

ALTHOUGH his name was familiar almost everywhere, far
more so indeed than his work, Henri Cartier-Bresson
himself was not a familiar sight. With his alert blue
eyes and a coloured handkerchief knotted round his
neck, he would wander the streets near his home on
Paris's rue de Rivoli and seldom be recognised. One of
the greatest photographers of the 20th century was
himself rarely photographed.

In his lifetime, he travelled to all corners of the
earth, capturing images of some of the most
extraordinary moments of 20th-century history—the
Spanish civil war, the liberation of Paris after the
second world war and the funeral of Mahatma Gandhi. At
the same time he framed and preserved less famous
moments, elevating them with his genius so that they
somehow seemed to capture the essence of life itself.

His unequalled ability to seize a millisecond in time
was uncanny. In his book “The Decisive Moment”,
published in 1952, he wrote: “It is the simultaneous
recognition, in a fraction of a second, of the
significance of an event as well as a precise
organisation of forms, which give that event its
proper expression.” He was never very interested in
the technology of photography, in the effects that
could be obtained during developing and editing in a
dark room. It was all about the thrill of the chase,
the chance to seize a moment.

The man who first inspired Mr Cartier-Bresson was a
photographer called Martin Munkacsi, whose picture of
naked African boys running into Lake Tanganyika in
1931 persuaded him to take photography seriously. “I
couldn't believe that such a thing could be caught on
camera,” he said, “so I grabbed my Leica and went out
into the street.”

Between 1932 and 1935, he lived rough in Italy, Mexico
and Spain where he took some of his most memorable
images. Back in Paris he worked with Jean Renoir, a
film director, and ended up playing the unlikely role
of an English servant in the director's masterpiece,
“La Règle du Jeu”. He was a prisoner-of-war for three
years, and after the war was one of the founders of
the Magnum agency, a trail-blazing photographers'
co-operative. In 1948 he went on the road again,
mostly to India and China (in time for the fall of
Chiang Kai-shek), in an age when the images of
photojournalists like him filled the pages of picture
magazines that were, in the pre-television era,
hungrily viewed by millions.

Unassuming genius
For the last quarter of a century, Mr Cartier-Bresson
eschewed photography, taking only the occasional
snapshot of friends and family, and turning his
attention to drawing. (He trained originally as a
painter, his early work influenced by his friend, the
surrealist artist Max Ernst.) He maintained that he
scarcely wanted to discuss photography any more. “It's
like when you're divorced”, he said, “and people keep
asking about your former wife. There's something
indecent about it.”

He settled into a quiet life in France—in Paris and in
the small house that he owned for some 30 years in the
Lubéron, a region in the south of the country, to the
east of Avignon. And there he died on Tuesday August
3rd, just less than three weeks away from his 96th
birthday.

Mr Cartier-Bresson always said that to be a great
photographer you had to be unintrusive. “For me,
photography is very much a physical pleasure—it's like
hunting, except that we don't kill.” At the height of
his career he would stalk his subjects, and his quarry
would often be unaware that it had been captured on
film. His desire to remain out of the limelight stayed
with him to the end, including his wish to hold back
the world's photographers from the funeral of one of
the greatest of them.

His funeral was a private affair attended by some 50
family and close friends. Only after it had ended did
the French Ministry of Culture make an official
announcement of his death. And the next day, August
5th, many of his most famous images were splashed
across the front pages of newspapers the world over: a
woman slapping an informer she recognises at a
deportation camp in Dessau in 1945; Muslim women in
Srinagar, Kashmir, praying to the sun as it rises over
the distant Himalayas; and a French family picnicking
by the River Marne in 1938, almost a last pre-war
moment of stillness.

Of Mr Cartier-Bresson's death, President Jacques
Chirac said: “With him, France loses a genius
photographer, a true master, and one of the most
gifted artists of his generation.” But it is not only
France's loss. Mr Cartier-Bresson's fame, which grew
despite his efforts to avoid it, reminds a much wider
world of its persistent admiration for unassuming
genius, and of the dwindling stock of targets for that
admiration.

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La famille d'Henri Cartier-Bresson, la Fondation Henri
Cartier-Bresson, les photographes et l'équipe de
Magnum Photos ont la tristesse de vous annoncer le
décès d'Henri Cartier-Bresson le 3 Août à 9h30 dans sa
maison du Luberon.Les obsèques ont eu lieu dans la
plus grande intimité. Un hommage sera organisé à sa
mémoire début septembre.
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Mai multe informatii referitoare la persoanlitatea si opera lui Henri Cartier-Bresson puteti gasi pe site-ul MAGNUM Agency, fondata de HCB. Adresa este http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/ , asa cum s-a mai spus pe acest forum de discutii. Intr-adevar, acolo putem vedea cu totii niste fotografii. Adevarate...

din Bucuresti, un biet ucenic intr-ale fotografiei, Ovidiu SIMINA
11/08/2004
Omuletul Goma - de Little Eagle la: 12/08/2004 21:12:23
(la: Preferati muzica)
So great you had the chance to meet him!I wish I could but...who knows?Life is full of surprises!

Yeah,adevaratul Superman.

Ca veni vorba de muzica si stiluri,sper ca-ti place The Doors?

"When the music's over(3X)
Turn out the lights(3X)

For the music is your special friend
Dance on fire as it intends
Music is your only friend
Until the end(3X)

Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
Send my credantials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside...

The face in the mirror won't stop
The girl in the mirror won't drop
A feast of friends
'Alive'!She cried
Waitin' for me
Outside!

Before I sink
Into the big sleep
I want to hear(2X)
The scream of the butterfly

Come back baby
Back into my arm
We're getting tired of hangin' around

I hear a very gentle sound
Very near yet very far
Very soft,yeah,very clear
Come today,come today

What have they done to the earth?
What have they done to our fair sister?
Ravaged and plundered and ripped her and bit her
Stuck her with knives in the side of the down

I hear a very gentle sound
With your ear down to the ground
We want the world and we want it...(2X)
Now
Now?
Now!

Persian night,babe
See the light,babe
Save us!
Jesus!
Save us

So when the music's over(3X)
Turn out the lights(3X)

For the music is your special friend
Dance on fire as it intends
Well music is your only friend
Until the end(3X)

LOVE&PEACE bro,
Ozzy

Ps:Also pt. Daniel care e poet si sunt sigur ca-i place poezia cantecelor lui Jim Morrison.















































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RUMI - de giocondel la: 13/08/2004 10:11:08
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
"Out beyound ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
there is a field.I'll meet you there.
When the soul lies down in that grass,
the world is too full to talk about.
Ideas,language,even the phrase"each other"
doesn't make any sense."
.........
Soul receives from soul that knowledge, therefore not by book
nor from tongue.
If knowledge of mysteries come after emptiness of mind, that is
illumination of heart.
.................
Sweetly parading you go my soul of soul, go not without me;
life of your friends, enter not the garden without me.
Sky, revolve not without me; moon, shine not without me;
earth travel not without me, and time, go not without me.




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