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hmm...sa zic "Martin Eden" de - de (anonim) la: 19/10/2003 08:38:06
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
hmm...sa zic "Martin Eden" de Jack London.Poate si caracterului autobiografic al cartii.
"Guarda e passa !" (Dante) - de Intruder la: 19/03/2005 12:31:14
(la: De ce ai decis sa nu emigrezi?)
"Guarda e passa !" (Dante)
De multe ori ma simt in Romania ca un papagal exotic intr-o colivie de aur...Si totusi...
Sunt legat cu lanturi grele de tara asta...familia, serviciul care este "bun" si care- culmea! - imi place, frica de necunoscut, frica de a o lua de la capat, rutina care ne-mpresoara pe fiecare din noi si care este confortabila uneori, locurile prin care hoinaresc in putinul timp liber pe care-l am, poate lasitatea, poate blazarea de tip balcanic...nu stiu...
Cam atat am avut de spus...oare sa mi se para mie strugurii prea acrii...?
martin eden - jack london te - de oanalaur la: 27/09/2005 16:33:02
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
martin eden - jack london
templul parasit - din pacate nu mai stiu autorul, un neamt in orice caz

salut fefe ! que passa ?===== - de RSI la: 21/03/2006 21:54:44
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "8")
salut fefe ! que passa ?
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"Eficienta este cea mai inteligenta forma de lene. (David Dunham) "
#112703 (raspuns la: #112701) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
ale mele - de Daniel Racovitan la: 31/10/2003 04:42:44
(la: Filmele mele)
Lista-i lunga, filme care mi-au placut:

- Calauza
- Barry Lyndon - Kubrick
- Paths of glory - Kubrick
- Portocala mecanica - Kubrick
- Eyes wide shut - Kubrick
- 2001 Odiseea spatiala - Kubrick
- Natural born killers / Nascuti asasini
- Urga (Aproape de Cer) - Mihalkov
- Gara pentru doi - Mihalkov
- Ochii negri - Mihalkov
- Noaptea generalilor
- Tunurile din Navarone
- Condamnatul (cu Jack Lemon)
- Some like it hot
- Cantand in ploaie
- Ninocika
- Moulin Rouge
- Cutitul in apa (Polanski)
- Le fabuleux destin d'Amelie Poulain
- Noptile Cabiriei
- La strada
- Noaptea americana - Truffaut
- Cele 400 de lovituri - Truffaut
- Parle avec elle - Almoldovar
- Easy Rider - regia Dennis Hoper
- The Killing Fields
- Jesus Christ Superstar
- Pentru tara si rege
- Padurea spanzuratilor
- Morometii
- Iacob
- Glissando
- Reconstituirea
- Operatiunea "Monstrul"
- Alice nu mai locuieste aici
- Hoti de biciclete -- de italianu' ala :)
- O lume nebuna nebuna nebuna
- Zbor deasupra unui cuib de cuci
- La est de Eden
- Diligentza
- Descult in parc
- In arsita noptii
- Ghici cine vine la cina?
- Iubiti animalele si copiii
- Razboiul lui Murphy - cu Peter O'Toole
- Out of Africa
- Pacientul englez
- Tacerea mieilor
- Meet Joe Black
- Arizona Dream
- Bagdad Cafe
- Sundance Kid
- Ghepardul
- Cei sapte magnifici
- Noaptea iguanei
- Priveste inapoi cu manie
- Kramer contra Kramer
- Brazil
- Leaving Las Vegas
- Vanilla Sky
- Inteligenta Artificiala
- The Truman Show
- The Mask
- Forest Gump
- Petrecerea - cu Peter Sellers
- seria "Panterei Roz" -- cu Perter Sellers
- comediile cu Stan si Bran (cei mai mari comici ai cinema-ului, din toate timpurile)
- comediile lui Chaplin (Timpuri moderne, Vagabondul, etc)
- comediile lui Louis de Funes
- comediile lui Norman
- serialul Twin Peaks
- etc.

(heh, am completat lista de cateva ori, cu ocazia asta mi-am facut si lista cu filmele preferate, ca se simtea nevoia... :))) )
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Re:Zamolxe - de alien la: 31/10/2003 12:50:44
(la: Irak)
As dori sa iti aduc la cunostiinta ca acest dicton "Pacea este mai ieftina decit razboiul" merge doar in EDEN.
Cum poti vorbii de pace fara a lua in considerare ca acest cuvant n-ar exista daca nu ar fi fost razboiul.Unde ai intalnit tu pe cineva care a realizat ceva esential in istoria omenirii fara bată,pumnal,sabie,praf de pusca,pistol,tun,tanc,etc.Pacea este o himera, o fata morgana ,un cuvant aruncat ca momeala pt. neinitiati adica pauza dintre doua razboaie.Cum poti spune ca pacea este mai ietina cand intre doua razboaie se reface arsenalul se cheltuiesc miliarde pt. reinarmare si dezvoltare de armament nou.Pacea cu care am fost intoxicati pana acum nu este decat o utopie.
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Mai alien, mai! - de Zamolxe la: 31/10/2003 21:39:06
(la: Irak)
Mai alien, mai!

Esti extrem de agresiv si in acelasi timp contradictoriu cu tine insuti si ilogic in mod absolut (cind comentezi aici! Nu in viata ta privata!).

Spui ca pacea nu exista.
Spui ca pacea exista dar este o pauza intre doua razboaie.
Spui ca pacea este o utopie, o himera.

Evident ca te contrazici tu pe tine insuti: pacea exista si asta o spui tu.

Si razboiul este o pauza intre doua paci.
Iar daca pacea este pauza de inarmare, atunci vreau o pauza lunga, in care sa ma inarmez cu rabdare, oua, ceapa, carne, piine si un cos de picnic. Si daca stiu ce pe ce sa imi cheltui miliardele, pot pune de un razboi lung la iarba verde. Cu mici, bere si gratare.
Si daca se termina munitia mai punem de o cercetare.

Si uite asa o pauza se poate scrie cu literele EDEN.

ptr. Zamolxe - de SB_one la: 12/11/2003 15:16:14
(la: Irak)
Ai vorbit ca un tarabostes; nu-mi ramine decit sa adaug cele de mai jos.
SB

> This will get you fired up!
>
>
>
> I wonder how many people are aware of this information. Love him or
> loath him, he nailed this one right on the head
>
> By Rush Limbaugh:
>
> I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the
> September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform
> are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you
> just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.
>
> Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something
> really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.
>
> If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to
> get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of
> $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
>
> If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed In
> action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half
> of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are
> the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry.
>
> And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When
> the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
>
> Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of
> $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.
> Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong
> place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL
> OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.
>
> We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the
> Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same
> deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that,
> some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for
> compensation as well.
>
> You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel
> of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just
> really sad.
>
> Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive
> next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the
> Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live
> in low-rent housing. Make sense?
>
> However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many
> of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to
> receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now
> equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social
> Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
>
> If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an
> E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people
> who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I
> would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks
> before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and
> daughters who are now fighting.
>
> "When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair
> to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.
>
> If your interested there is more............
>
> This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going. SOCIAL SECURITY:
> (This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.)
>
> Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our
> Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years
> ago they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no
> congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical
> purposes their plan works like this:
>
> When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die,
> except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.
> For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives
> may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred
> Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of
> their lives. This is calculated on an average life span for each.
>
> Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they
> voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for
> this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from
> the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! From our own Social Security
> Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into --every payday until we
> retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get
> an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we
> would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68
> years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!
>
> Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.
> And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from
> under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security
> plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.
>
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted
> and maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a
> difference..
>
>
.
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Framintari... - de Madalina la: 17/11/2003 19:35:44
(la: Theodorakis)
JCC bunicii mei au murit demult si, saracii, sa-i lasam sa se odihneasca in pace!
Am inteles unde "bate" comentariul tau, totusi as vrea tare mult sa-ti pui ideile intr-o exprimare mult mai concreta vis-a-vis de subiect. Am citi comentariile tale la alte blag-uri si mi-au placut mult, asa ca astept comentarii cu calificativ mai inalt din parte-ti!

Cit despre athos... Trebuie sa-ti spun ca esti agresiv rau!Se spune ca despre subiectul evrei nu se poate discuta civilizat, caci mai tirziu sau mai devreme se ajunge la cearta!
Iti mai scrisesem ca-ti dauneaza la sanatate, da' acum vad ca te aprinse-si tare fratioare! Si cind te gindesti ca tocmai tu care ar trebui sa tii controlul discutiei imi pari cel mai putin in control...Mai ca-mi vine sa fac "Pass" ca la poker ca sit-ul asta nu e ca sa ne certam ci ca sa dezbatem. Cine se infirbinta, sa faca un dus rece si apoi sa revina!

Iar despre apararea...Pai in ultimul timp la evrei apararea asta a devenit mai degraba exindere si dominare...Daca agresivitatea nu a fost pina acum o trasatura de caracter a evreului, ca nu a avut unde sa si-o formeze intre staini (caci "strain" a fost pina in '47), ei bine, acum si-o dezvolta si si-o manifesta din plin!Recupereaza! Parca se doarme cu mina pe pistol si cu pistolul sub perna!

Cit despre apararea poporului roman, sunt socata de cum pui problema!
Sa nu uiti ca romanii in toata istoria lor nu au avut nici un razboi de invadare sau agresiune, pe cind evreii... N-o fi explodind mamaliga romaneasca decit f. rar, da' nici ca-n Israel...Cum se face o declaratie, cum cineva indrazneste prea mult, cum se scoate armata pe strazi!
Si mai e ceva...care zau imi produce scirba...Evrei si neevrei au putut trai si munci impreuna in Romania si in restul Europe, iar acum, statul evreu, cind se vede cu ceva saci in caruta, nu stie de la cine sa mai ceara plecaciuni. Da' chiar nu inteleg ce cred evreii ca sunt precum cainii in sat? Daca tot au evreii acum un stat de ce nu-si vad de treaba, acolo in bucataria lor ca, zau e multa mizerie acolo! In schimb mereu se framinta de declaratii, de scuze...

Putin inainte de inceperea razboiului din Irak, guvernul Sharon a facut o declaratie in care, pe scurt, isi afirma acordul cu privire la inceperea razbuiului de catre americani caci "intr-adevar acesta este necesar". Si vin cu intrebarea : Daca asta nu e rautate si agresivitate, atunci ce e?







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E.A. Poe...din nou... - de sanjuro la: 25/11/2003 06:41:42
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
CORBUL

Stînd, cîndva, la miez de noapte, istovit, furat de şoapte
Din oracole ceţoase, cărţi cu tîlc tulburător,
Piroteam, uitînd de toate, cînd deodată-aud cum bate,
Cineva părea că bate – bate-n uşa mea uşor.
,,E vreun trecător – gîndit-am – şi-a bătut întîmplător.
Doar atît, un trecător."

O, mai pot uita vreodată ? Vînt, decembrie cu zloată,
Jaru-agoniza, c-un straniu dans de umbre pe covor,
Beznele-mi dădeau tîrcoale – şi niciunde-n cărţi vreo cale
Să-mi aline greaua jale – jalea grea pentru Lenore –
Fata fără-asemuire – îngerii îi spun Lenore –
Nume-n lume trecător.

În perdele învinse roşul veşted de mătase
Cu-o foşnire de nelinişti, ca-ntr-un spasm chinuitor;
Şi-mi spuneam, să nu mai geamă inima zvîcnind de teamă:
,,E vreun om care mă cheamă, vrînd să afle-un ajutor –
Rătăcit prin frig şi noapte vrea să ceară-un ajutor –
Nu-i decît un trecător."

Astfel liniştindu-mi gîndul şi de spaime dezlegîndu-l
,,Domnule – am spus – sau doamnă, cer iertare, vă implor;
Podidit de oboseală eu dormeam, fără-ndoială,
Şi-aţi bătut prea cu sfială, prea sfios, prea temător;
Am crezut că-i doar părere!" Şi-am deschis, netemător,
Beznă, nici un trecător.

Şi-am rămas în prag o vreme, inima simţind cum geme,
Năluciri vedeam, cum nimeni n-a avut, vreun muritor;
Noapte numai, nesfîrşită, bezna-n sinea-i adîncită,
Şi o vorbă, doar şoptită, ce-am şoptit-o eu: „Lenore!”
Doar ecou-adînc al beznei mi-a răspuns şoptit: ,,Lenore!''
Doar ecoul trecător.

Întorcîndu-mă-n odaie, tîmplele-mi ardeau văpaie,
Şi-auzii din nou bătaia, parcă mai stăruitor.
,,La fereastră este, poate, vreun drumeţ strein ce bate...
Nu ştiu, semnele-s ciudate, vreau să aflu tîlcul lor.
Vreau, de sînt în beznă taine, să descopăr tîlcul lor!''
Vînt şi nici un trecător.

Geamul l-am deschis o clipă şi, c-un foşnet grav de-aripă,
a intrat un Corb, străvechiul timpului stăpînitor.
N-a-ncercat vreo plecăciune de salut sau sfiiciune,
Ci făptura-i de tăciune şi-a oprit, solemn, din zbor,
Chiar pe bustul albei Palas – ca un Domn stăpînitor,
Sus, pe bust, se-opri din zbor.

Printre negurile-mi dese, parcă-un zîmbet mi-adusese,
Cum privea, umflat în pene, ţanţoş şi încrezător.
Şi-am vorbit: ,,Ţi-e creasta cheală, totuşi intri cu-ndrăzneală,
Corb bătrîn, strigoi de smoală dintr-al nopţii-adînc sobor!
Care ţi-e regalul nume dat de-al Iadului sobor?''
Spuse Corbul: ,,Nevermore!''

Mult m-am minunat, fireşte, auzindu-l cum rosteşte
Chiar şi-o vorbă fără noimă, croncănită-ntîmplător;
Însă nu ştiu om pe lume să primească-n casă-anume
Pasăre ce-şi spune-un nume – sus, pe bust, oprită-n zbor –
Pasăre, de nu stafie, stînd pe-un bust strălucitor-
Corb ce-şi spune: ,,Nevermore''.

Dar, în neagra-i sihăstrie, alta nu părea că ştie,
Sufletul şi-l îmbrăcase c-un cuvînt sfîşietor.
Mult rămase, ca o stană.n-a mişcat nici fulg, nici pană,
Pînă-am spus: ,,S-au dus, în goană, mulţi prieteni, mulţi, ca-n zbor –
Va pleca şi el, ca mîine, cum s-a dus Nădejdea-n zbor''.
Spuse Corbul: ,,Nevermore''.

Uluit s-aud că-ncearcă vorbă cugetată parcă,
M-am gîndit: ,,E-o vorbă numai, de-altele-i neştiutor.
L-a-nvăţat vreun om, pe care Marile Dezastre-amare
L-au purtat fără-ncetare cu-ăst refren chinuitor –
Bocetul Nădejdii-nfrînte i-a ritmat, chinuitor,
Doar cuvîntul: «Nevermore»''.

Corbul răscolindu-mi, însă, desnădejdea-n suflet strînsă,
Jilţul mi l-am tras alături, lîngă bustul sclipitor;
Gînduri rînduiam, şi vise, doruri, şi nădejdi ucise,
Lîngă vorba ce-o rostise Corbul nopţii, cobitor –
Cioclu chel, spectral, sinistru, bădăran şi cobitor –
Vorba Never – Nevermore.

Nemişcat, învins de frică, însă negrăind nimică,
Îl priveam cum mă fixează, pînă-n gînd străbătător,
Şi simţeam iar îndoiala, mîngîiat de căptuşeala
Jilţului, pe care pala rază-l lumina uşor –
Dar pe care niciodată nu-l va mîngîia, uşor,
Ea, pierduta mea Lenore.

Şi-am simţit deodată-o boare, din căţui aromitoare,
Nevăzuţi pluteau, c-un clinchet, paşi de înger pe covor;
,,Ţie, ca să nu mai sîngeri, îţi trimite Domnul îngeri'' –
Eu mi-am spus – ,,să uiţi de plîngeri, şi de dusa ta Lenore.
Bea licoarea de uitare, uită gîndul la Lenore !''
Spuse Corbul : ,,Nevermore''.

,,Tu, profet cu neagră pană, vraci, oracol, sau satană,
Sol al Beznei sau Gheenei, dacă eşti iscoditor,
În noroasa mea ruină, lîngă-un ţărm fără lumină,
Unde spaima e regină – spune-mi, spune-mi te implor,
Este-n Galaad – găsi-voi un balsam alinător?''
Spuse Corbul: ,,Nevermore''.

,,Tu, profet cu neagră pană, vraci, oracol, sau satană,
Spune-mi, pe tăria bolţii şi pe Domnul iertător,
Sufletu-ntîlni-va oare, în Edenul plin de floare,
Cea mai pură-ntre fecioare – îngerii îi spun Lenore –
Fata căreia şi-n ceruri îngeri îi spun Lenore?''
Spuse Corbul: ,,Nevermore''.

,,Fie-ţi blestemat cuvîntul! Piei, cu beznele şi vîntul,
Piei în beznă şi furtună, sau pe ţărmul Nopţii-n zbor!
Nu-mi lăsa nici fulg în casă din minciuna-ţi veninoasă!
Singur pentru veci mă lasă ! Pleacă de pe bust în zbor!
Scoate-ţi pliscu-nfipt în mine, pleacă la Satan, în zbor!''
Spuse Corbul: ,,Nevermore''.

Şi de-atunci, pe todeauna, Corbul stă, şi stă într-una,
Sus, pe albul bust, deasupra uşii mele, pînditor,
Ochii veşnic stau de pază, ochi de demon ce visează,
Lampa îşi prelinge-o rază de pe pana-i pe covor;
Ştiu, eu n-am să scap din umbra-i nemişcată pe covor.
Niciodată – Nevermore.
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Pt. Mihaela - de Pablo la: 29/12/2003 12:10:34
(la: Evreii si o manie curioasa..)
Nu stiu unde traiesti dar inclin sa cred ca nu pe planeta aceasta.
Vorbe,vorbe frumoase, glume,distractii, sunt pt. gradina edenului si nu pt. acest pamant.Aici domneste raul,razboiul,ceata,ura si tot ceea ce ti-ai dorii sa nu fie.Dar cine ne intreaba daca suntem de acord cu ceea ce este sau daca ne place.Asta este si nimic mai mult.
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Salutare..ma primitzi si pe m - de Malika la: 04/02/2004 14:02:36
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Salutare..ma primitzi si pe mine?

Ma consideram o cititoare foarte fidela si cu multe cartzi la activ..azi am descoperit ca sunt depasita. Ce am citit aici m-a impresionat si speriat totodata.
Cu rusine spun ca pe Steinbeck l-am descoperit doar acum, am imprumutat de la biblioteca cartea La rasarit de Eden dar n-am citit-o inca. La fel cu Marquez cu Un veac de singuratate.
Imi facetzi o scurta descriere?
Nu stiu daca exista cartzi care m-au marcat foarte tare, adica m-au facut sa imi schimb modul de viatza. Exista cartzi care m-au impresionat, m-au facut sa plang si sa ma gandesc mult timp la ele.
De ex...Mataniile de Florence Barclay, Jane Eyre, Charlote Bronte




"Searching for answeres to questions nobody asked !"
Mi-e dor de cantecele lui mai vechi... - de RSI la: 18/02/2004 09:44:09
(la: Leonard Cohen)
N-am mai auzit de mult de pilda "Please don't pass me by"...
Top 10 anii'80 - de bpisai la: 25/02/2004 04:13:57
(la: Top 10 pop-rock-disco al anilor 80)
1. Stela Enache - Ani de liceu
2. Alphaville - Forever Young
3. Modern Talking - Wild Wild Water
4. Cock Robin - The Promise You Made
5. Jennifer Rush - Come Give Me Your Hand
6. Chris de Burgh - The Head and the Heart
7. Zdravko Colic - Ruzice Ruska
8. Nino de Angelo - Jenseits von Eden
9. Demis Roussos - Quand Je T'Aime
10. Opus - Live Is Life
Fara ordine interna - de (anonim) la: 28/02/2004 13:28:11
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Fara ordine interna

Cei trei muschetari
Contele de Monte Cristo
Insula Misterioasa
Doi ani de vacanta
Toate pinzele sus
Fram ursul polar
Fratii Grimm (2 voume cartonate galben si rosu)
Mituri si legende...(Alexandru Mitru)
Ivanhoe

Orb prin Gaza(At the mill with slaves)
Cel mai iubit dintre paminteni
The spy who came in from the cold
La est de Eden
Calea regala(Malraux)
A passage to India
Procesul

Pt. Spiderman - de Little Eagle la: 13/05/2004 14:28:48
(la: Evoluam?)
Sper sa nu te superi ca te numesc:Spiderman"Daca da,atunci sa-mi scrii si n-o mai fac.Imi aduce aminte de revista de b.d.pt. care am ilustrat o vreme acest super hero cu ani in urma cind lucram pt. Marvel Comics.

Nu m-am referit la acele filme documentare computerizate,ci am vrut sa spun despre dovezile arheologice.Daca ai veni in NY si merge la Museum of Natural History,vei vedea schelete de dinozauri sau alte animale preistorice,ele au trait cindva pe acest pamint.Existenta lor e de netagaduit.
In Biblie nu se mentioneaza nimic despre ele,ca si cum nu ar fi existat...totul incepe de la...Adam si Eva....deci lumea a aparut deodata cu 2-3000 ani in urma....aiurea si desigur in Israel,ca si cum atunci era centrul universului.
Ca si cum acela era pamintul si centrul creatiei,sa nu uitam ca la o vreme se credea ca pamintul e...plat si ca soarele se invirtea in jurul lui....a veni cu dovezi stiintifice=arderi pe rug!

La fel pot sa spun si eu ca NIMENI NU a fost ATUNCI cind...Eva s-a ..nascut din coasta lui Adam!!!Si la fel sa fi fotografiat Garden of Eden cu ...digital camera!
De fapt in acest aspect,NU exista nici o dovada decit...cele scrise de Biblie.
Cel putin arheologia aduce dovezi ale evolutiei lumii,sapaturi,artifacts,lumi mult mai vechi decit in Biblie ce real au existat si a le nega este o dovada a ignorantei umane.

Sa nu crezi ca nu am o credinta in Dumnezeu.Cred ca exista!Dar nu in sensul vechiului testament unde mereu e sucarit si e pus pe a pedepsi omul.
Daca vei citi textele mele scrise lui Desdemona,la subiectul ei legat de Respect,iti vei da seama de mai multe despre cum gindesc si cred despre lume si mai ales Creatia toata.
Am fost si sunt blessed de a fi avut niste experiente in viata rarisime.Daca traiesti in Australia,incearca sa intri in contact cu nativii vostri,the aborigines,sunt o rasa unica pe glob si f. spirituali,vei invata multe de la ei,lucruri de 1000 ori mai spirituale decit orice credinte in lume si mai ales cea crestina!
Dar de fapt doar daca iti e scris de soarta poti avea reale contacte cu ei.la fel cum mi s-a intimplat mie,NU am ajuns intimplator sa cunosc si sa-mi fac prieteni,indieni americani.NU i-am cautat,soarta m-a dus la ei,si a avea un vision quest....NU este daruit de un elder(chief of the tribe)sau un Medicine Man decit daca el vede in tine ca meriti acest ritual,mai ales cind NU esti din singele lor!!!!
Si ei cred in reincarnare!!!!Un elder e ca un shaman,se uita in ochii tai si vede tot trecutul vietilor tale dar si viitorul.Sint cei mai spirituali,asa ca stiu ca in trecut cu vieti in urma am fost indian.Pare greu de crezut,dar simti in spirit si suflet asta cind acel elder te priveste in ochi direct,si la fel el STIE cine ai fost.

Multi de pe forum nu cred in reincarnare si semne spirituale,si mai putin cred ca au avut reale experiente cu reali indieni americani ori cunosc credinta lor si o pot intelege.
Sa stii ca in credinta lor ei stiu ca au existat animale preistorice,de fapt in Black Hills,loc sacru pt. natia de indieni din toate triburile,dai peste oase de dinozauri la tot pasul,dar este pamintul LOR si nimeni nu are dreptul sa ia aceste oase,nici chiar guvernul american,ele trebuie lasate in pace in spiritul Creatiei,neatinse de nimeni,ci venerate.

Este un respect fata de natura si Creatie si NU o sa dai peste unul mai patrunzator si autentic din suflet si dragoste ca la un indian!In Australia e la fel legat de aboriginies!Multi din prietenii mei(ne numim intre noi brothers and sisters)indieni au prieteni aboriginies.
Unul din ei John Little Feet(tribul Crow) chiar mi-a dat cadou un vechi boomerang ce e cioplit de mina cu piatra de aboriginies si dateaza din 1843 cel putin!Un prieten aboriginie i l-a dat la rindul lui cadou.
E imens!Are 80 cm lungime usor curbat si vezi urmele pietrei cind a fost cioplit,e din lemn rosu f. dur,cred ca e tec.Cine stie cite animale au fost omorite cu el?

Ce vreau sa-ti spun este ca natura mereu m-a atras dar abia cu 14 ani in urma real o inteleg si o iubesc si lupt pt. conservarea ei si protejare,de la piatra la pasare si aer.
In credinta lakota(sioux,cum omul alb a numit acest trib),Creatia este sub forma unei indience f. frumosa ce o numesc Buffalo Cow Woman si ea a creat stelele din lacrimile ei vazind suferinta indienilor.A fost creata de Marele Spirit,
care a creat noaptea fiind trist pt. Creatia lui si ziua fiind bucuros ca ea exista.

Indienii NU isi vind religia lor nimanui,nu e de vinzare,este doar a lor si ea exista in ei de cind Marele Spirit a creat universul.Credinta e transmisa si azi oral de mii de ani de la elders la copii si cei tineri,pt. ca ea nu trebuie sa fie pusa in scris,e un sacrilegiu.
Cum ti-am scris mai sus cred in Dumnezeu si am o credinta in Meher Baba,totodata cred in religia indienilor americani,este dupa mine cea mai realista si buna,pt. ca e bazata pe RESPECT fata de Creatia toata,de la piatra la pasare si nori,nu uita ca noi trebuie sa fim servitorii creatiei,s-o pastram curata si pura daca vrem sa mai existam in ea si prin ea.

Dar azi ea e murdarita de egoismul si nepasarea omului,e tratata ca un decor la o piesa de teatru,nici in Biblie NU se vorbeste despre natura si cit de importanta e in existenta noastra!!!!
Ca trebuie venerata si respectata,ca trebuie sa te inchini in fata ei pt. ca azi e f. trista!!!!
Iti dai seama oare,sau o auzi vreodata cum plinge si cit de mult sufera pt. noi?Ai luat vreodata un copac in brate si simtit in tine cum ii bate inima?
Buffalo Cow Woman plinge mereu si e trista pt. ca am ucis-o incet sistematic si o ucidem zilnic.
Sa nu ne miram sau sa ne apuce pe noi plinsul cind mari suferinte vor veni in lume sub diverse forme,dezastre naturale si razboaie prin care deja trecem!!!!E vina noastra!!!Daca sintem cu adevarat puternici in spirit,vom accepta razbunarea ei!
Si mai mult daca avem curaj...ca un real brave warrior ne vom cere iertare si apoi vom fi pregatiti sa murim fara a ne schimonosi fetele si sa ne fie frica de moarte,caci nici un Dumnezeu nu va veni in ajutor oricite rugaciuni vom face!

Mai revin altadata,

Love&peace,
Ozzy
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Cum s-au nascut natiile de indieni si cum au aparut ei in lume.E o poveste veche,ce-mi amintesc de la bunica lui Vern,Pe numele ei Starleaf:
Odata,o porumbita ranita zbura deasupra pamintului si din aripa i-a curs o picatura de singe pe sanul Mother Nature.Copacii au inceput sa freamate,si cu crengile lor au chemat vintul care a inceput sa adieze pe locul unde picatura de singe a cazut.
Iarba si florile au chemat soarele sa bata in acel loc si The Great Spirit s-a trezit si incet a suflat din rasuflarea lui pe acel loc.Din acea picatura de singe
s-au nascut indienii americani,de culoare rosie si f. agili si f. mindri.

Sa stii ca astfel de creatie o consider mult mai interesanta si placuta decit cea din Biblie.
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#15358 (raspuns la: #15268) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

oed jew | more
Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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De la www.photographe-de-mode.com - de Dinu Lazar la: 08/07/2004 06:54:17
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NEWSLETTER de JUILLET 2004
www.photographe-de-mode.com

Festival de la photographie de mode (Cannes)
Pour sa deuxième édition, Cannes Photo Mode présente une sélection de cinquante photographies de mode dont une grande exposition des deux principaux invités du Festival : Jacques Olivar et Steve Hiett. Cannes devient ainsi la scène partagée par les différents acteurs et professionnels de la photographie de mode. En donnant chair à une certaine idée de la beauté, du sensuel, de l'érotisme, cet art a su, grâce à ses compositions originales, sa pertinence, sa technique et son imaginaire, sublimer son sujet. Pour la première fois, la Croisette et la Roseraie du port Canto sont “habillées” par des tirages photographiques sur bâches de trois mètres par cinq, qui permettront aux visiteurs de profiter d'œuvres prodigieuses dans des dimensions inattendues (du 19 juin au 19 juillet). D'autre part, une sélection de photographies ainsi que des grands formats noir et blanc ou couleur sont présentés dans les salles du Palm Beach Casino et sur sa terrasse (du 19 juin au 31 août).

Photos les plus vues sur photographe-de-mode.com
La section "top" a été créée il y a quelques temps et elle vient d'être remise à jour. Quelles sont les photos les plus "tendance" du moment ? Un outil vous permet de savoir quelles ont été les photos les plus "zoomées" par les utilisateurs du site.

Nouvelle ergonomie du site
Il y a 3 mois commençait la phase de test d'érgonomie du site www.photographe-de-mode.com. Ce test s'est transformé en en remaniement quasi total des sections couleur et noir et blanc. Quand on clique sur une vignette, l'image sélectionnée apparaît puis les autres images de la même série viennent se mettre en dessous. Cela réduit considérablement le nombre de clicks à produire et facilite le chargement à l'écran des images. De plus, 2 séries mode ont été rajoutées ainsi qu'une série de photos de lingerie.

Grève de SMS du 5 mai
Les SMS sont à 10 centimes, faites passer ! En avril dernier nous avions fait un appel à la grève des SMS (les opérateurs de téléphonie mobile réalisaient des marges de 600% sur vos SMS envoyés). Résultat : les SMS chez Orange sont passés à 10 centimes au lieu de 15 centimes.

Expo Guy Bourdin à Paris
Le Jeu de Paume a été chargé par le ministère de la Culture et de la Communication, de mettre en œuvre une politique ambitieuse en faveur de la photographie et de l’image dans un lieu prestigieux qui sera une référence dans ce domaine. Pour inaugurer ces nouvelles activités, Régis Durand, directeur du Jeu de Paume (Place Concorde à Paris), propose deux expositions : Éblouissement et Guy Bourdin, présentées du 24 juin au 12 septembre 2004, avec le soutien de Neuflize Vie.

Nous vous donnons rendez-vous le mois prochain pour la prochaine édition !

Merci et à bientôt

Erick Seban-Meyer
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påcatul - de geani la: 09/07/2004 15:00:34
(la: Pacatul)
Am terminat de citit "La rasarit de Eden". Ideea importanta a romanului este "Pacatul" - pacatul primordial al uciderii fratelui. Dar nu cumva este pacatul primordial al Tatalui de a face diferenta intre copiii lui? De a aprecia mai mult ce i-a oferit unul decat ce i-a oferit celalalt si condamnandu-l la moarte pe Abel? Despre pacat poti vorbi din perspectiva societatii. Pentru ca nu exista notiunea de pacat daca nu are cine sa-ti judece actiunile. Si atunci, mai e un aspect. Depinde de pe ce parte a subiectului privesti lucrurile, depinde de cum esti implicat in subiect.
Geneza 4:7 spune: "Nu-i asa? Daca faci bine, vei fi bine primit; dar daca faci raul pacatul pandeste la usa, dorinta lui se tine dupa tine, dar tu sa-l stapanesti". Cuvantul Timshel, care inseamna "sa-l stapanesti", este comentat in "La rasarit de Eden" si tradus "tu il poti sapani".
Eu nu pot sa apreciez ce e pacat si ce nu decat prin prisma sistemului meu de valori, format de educatia din familie si de viata sociala pe care o am (sau nu).
N-o sa spun ca a omori pe cineva nu e un pacat. Dar pot sa spun ca, de pilda, euthanasia nu e un pacat. Pacat e atunci cand chinui sufletul, al tau sau al altuia. Poate cå "pacat" inseamna "nu e bine".
...I'm your turbo lover....te - de Little Eagle la: 07/08/2004 08:16:51
(la: Sexul la serviciu)
...I'm your turbo lover....tell me there's no other....
Mda,mi se pare perfect de bine si interesant si excitant sa ai sex la serviciu.
Daca eu am avut sex intr-o cabina telefonica si intre vagoanele metroului in Ny...a avea sex la serviciu e o joaca.Am facut si asta.In W.C-ul femeilor sau calare pe birouri sau chiar pe chiuveta,eram sportiv pe atunci in astea,de aia am dureri de spate azi...e greu sa tii o femeie in brate cu spatele la zid si s-o pompezi stand in picioare...azi am devenit cel care sta sub femeie.dar imi place si mereu mi-a placut cand fat e in control.Voi fetelor ce ziceti?adica mereu...supuse barbatului?

Nu stiu daca sex la serviciu are o legatura cu cel in public?pe undeva e cam asemanator.Intra in categorie si sexul din scoala generala sau liceu sau colegiu aici?
Personal mi se pare excitant sa ai sex in locuri interzise,e un fetish,fara nici o legatura acum,odata am avut o gagicuta japoneza din Hong Kong insa care era in bondage,stiu ca facea niste noduri de franghie de nici dracu'nu te mai scotea din ele...am intrerupt-o cu ea pt. ca avea o iubita(NU AM nimic impotriva lesbienelor!)dar nu ma simteam bine in preajma ei....she was a real weirdo boy!Era si ea tot din Hong Kong dar avea o manie...un fetish in care nu am crezut ca exista pana atunci....automutilare voita ....fata nu avea un picior si eu ca prostul credeam ca saraca a avut un accident nasol....cand am aflat de la Miko(japoneza cu care eram)ca din vointa si din ..."eroticism" si-a dorit piciorul taiat total,mi-am zis ca e vremea sa ma uschesc!

Sunt unii Dr. asiatici care fac astfel de operatii si exista o reala lume underground de astfel de fetish people in NY,nu va spun minciuni!Daca intri pe canalele lor,si e de ajuns sa cunosti 1-2 persoane,vei intra intr-o lume ce ti se pare total ireala si weird!

Mereu am fost...curios...

In fine,trebuia sa ma f...t si la serviciu,de ce nu?N-am fost eu angajat prea mult in un loc,cred ca toata viata am avut cam 12 servicii diverse(in Ro.si aici)si cel mai mult am stat 3 ani intr-unul,cel mai putin,1-2 luni.
Doar odata in viata am stat 3 ani.In rest,aici am fost si sunt freelance pt. ca urasc sa am un sef!Eu sunt seful meu!

Mai nasol este sa ai relatii extraconjugale.Oi fi fost eu cum am fost dar am niste precepte ale mele:daca sunt insurat,NU imi insel sotia niciodata!Ar insemna tradare.
Ca ma uit la alte femei si imi sunt frumoase si le-as f...e pe loc,e ceva ce va ramane o mica fantezie de moment,dar m-as simti f. nasol in suflet si nu as putea trai cu mine insumi daca mi-as insela real sotia.Asta imi aduce aminte de niste cuvinte zise de Jimmy Carter(de n-ar fi fost el...nu ajungeam eu in USA!):"All of us men ,we're cheating on our wives,It is impossible not to look with that sexual desire at some woman passing by,and after that,we're loving more our wives. "
E sau nu adevarat?

Sex sub birou,pe birou,la w.c.,pe terasa cladirii,un blow job scurt,go down on her and tease her to insanity,lick her fingers,have sex in front of the window so all people can see you,cam asa se intampla .Eram odata prieten cu un fotograf pro.la revista ELLE si Cosmopolitan,mereu avea dupa el gagici de cadeai pe jos,manechine de ti se parea un vis sa ai sex cu ele...putine chiar sunt inebunite dupa sex,mai mult dupa relatii si bani multi si pile.

Sunt niste Barbie Dolls de plastic.Dar nu se sfiesc si iau la droguri cu gramada.
faci apoi ...CE VREI cu ele!
Leo(amicul meu fotograf)era into S&M si era bisexual,mai mult ii placea sa fie tortuirat de femei superbe si avea destule.Si asa mai dadeam si eu la bucile lor prin el.Ele (de obicei mereu cate doua)il torturau eu le f...m,de nici ca puteam sa ma scap, o tineam ca un nebun ...dar era si pt. ca luam droguri cacalau atunci,si ele la fel,nu dormi,si sex-ul continua parca la infinit....si e nasol pt. ca you pass out cu scula dreapta si te trezesti la fel...

E o nebunie sexuala.Dar radeam de inebuneam de Leo...sa-l fi vazut legat in lanturi cu masca pe fata si fermoar la gura si ...scula in piele neagra si alte inele si zgarciuri in jurul ei si un dildo bagat in cur...omul nu putea vorbi(fermoarul) si eu ma p...m pe mine de ras.
Iar am divagat...altele ,alta data,sex la serviciu? f. sanatos!Nota 10 de la mine.Ba si am o gramada acum de povestit doar despre vremurile cu Leo,pe alta zi insa.

Tot in trecut traiesc...doar amintiri au ramas dar nu-i duc dorul deloc.Am insa ceva de spus mereu.E imposibil sa nu fie ,la viata tumultoasa ce am trait aici.

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy




























































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