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. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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scoli din vest - de cameliaim la: 08/08/2004 10:54:57
(la: Ce parere aveti de scolile din strainatate)
Comentariul de mai jos al lui Horia il gasesc pur si simplu 100% la obiect si adevarat. Fii-mea are 11 ani si se duce de 8 ani la scoala in Spania (mai concret in Cataluña). Legea zice ca e obligatoriu de la 6 ani, dar cum toti incep la 3, il duci tu la 6 si ceilalti scriu, citesc (relativ) si, mai ales, vorbesc limba. Total, ca si altii de mai jos, nu-mi vine cu lectii acasa (zice ca le face in pauza de 1/2 ora), intre clase de catalan si castellano are o brambureala in cap (ca, de, catalana e o limba, desi 60% sunt cuvinte spaniole fara ultima silaba, 30% sunt franceze si 10% romane, dar ei o dau inainte), de istorie n-a auzit, geografia este a Cataluniei...si cam atat. A, nu, eu speram ca avand o facultate tehnica, puteam s-o ajut cel putin pana pe la 15 ani. Am renuntat acum doi ani, cand a inceput cu impartirile. Pentru ca nu se fac cum le facem noi.Noooo! Inmultesti si scrii dedesubt, apoi scazi si cobori cel de sus. Aceste trei operatii le fac in cap si sub linie pun doar rezultatul final. Asa ca dupa multe incercari de a o invata cum fac eu (si restul lumii), am renuntat si i-am zis sa faca cum stie ea, pana ii da rezultatul corect. Cartile le lasa si ea la scoala. Ghiozdanul e plin de: penare (creioane negre si colorate, creioane de ceara, pixuri de n culori, punta fina si dracu mai stie ce), caiete, folii, dosare. De geometrie inca n-au auzit. Iar anul asta, cand am fost acasa, am vrut sa-i iau manuale de romana. Copilul scrie in romana, dar cu greseli de ortografie. Ideea mea era apoi s-o trimit la ai mei, sa studieze mai departe la Cervantes. Ei bine, cautand printre manuale, mi-am dat seama cu oroare, ca fii-mea, care aduce doar note bune, cu matematica este pe undeva pe la jumatatea clasei a doua din Romania. Ca sa nu mai vorbim de engleza. Ca i-am zis, macar pe strada, sa se abtina de a folosi cuvinte englezesti, o mai aude vreun strain si moare de ras, iar eu de rusine. Apoi mi-am adus aminte de comentarii pe care mi le facusera cativa spanioli mai scoliti: "Daca aveti rude afara, trimiteti-o acolo sa studieze". Ce sa-i mai zici, cand ei singuri recunosc ca elevii spanioli sunt ultimii din Europa. Problema e ca pe mine doar cartile ei ma costa 400€...
pererea mea - de cameliaim la: 27/09/2004 12:36:44
(la: Supermarketul viitorului)
Mda, cred si eu ca renteaza la nemti, tinand seama ca ei incarca un TIR, nu numai caruciorul (apropo, va mai amintiti turistii nemti pe plajele romanesti prin anii 70-80?). Si mai ales in epoci de sarbatoare: o ministatie meteo, un teanc de folii, sa fie acolo, o fata de masa pt Pasti.... Dar bietul roman la ce sa renunte, cand oricum isi dozeaza toate la maximum? Nu cred ca este rentabil costul unui asemenea echipament daca luam in considerare economia de timp/client.
buna Belle, - de anisia la: 05/12/2004 16:20:51
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata)
am intrebat-o pe bunica. prosopul sa fie uscat. ideea este sa acoperi coca pentru a nu prinde crusta daca se usuca. presupun ca merge impachetata in folie de plastic, dar tu stii cum sunt bunicile, cu retetele vechi...
tava e aceea neagra de aragaz. vrei sa merg sa o masor?

da, freza am inceput sa ma obisnuiesc cu ea. sa fie un semn de evolutie ??? :)))

13 ore de condus? e mult !!! credeam ca va puteti intalni...
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rulada de carne, de la magdritz - de Belle la: 07/12/2004 15:15:39
(la: Retete aristocrate)
http://www.cafeneaua.com/node/view/2867

Portii: pentru un platou
Timp de preparare: 1 hours
Ingrediente:

0.5 kg de carne tocata fin
5 oua
1 cutie de ciuperci taiate
1 ardei rosu
1/2 ceapa medie, 2 catei de usturoi
3 felii de paine
patrunjel, sare, boia, piper, Vegeta, 2 linguri de pesmet

Instructiuni pentru preparare:

Se inmoaie in apa rece feliile de paine, se storc bine si se pun intr-un castron cu carnea tocata, ceapa si usturoiul tocate marunt, sare, piper, boia dupa gust, 2 oua crude si se amesteca foarte bine ca si pentru chiftelute. Celelalte 3 oua se fierb 10 minute. Pe o folie de plastic unsa cu ulei se intinde compozitia de carne, peste care se dau pe razatoare ouale fierte tari, se presara pe ou putina Vegeta, sau sare, se presara ciupercile tocate marunt si stoarse de zeama si se aseaza ardeiul taiat fidea, in lungul ruladei. Se presara peste patrunjel verde si proaspat, dupa care se ruleaza foarte strans intr-o rulada de lungimea tavii. Se presara cu pesmet foarte bine, se aseaza in tava, se stropeste cu ulei si se da la foc mare in cuptorul incins pana se rumeneste. Dupa ce s-a copt, scoateti din tava si asezati rulada fierbinte pe o hartie absorbanta si lasati sa se raceasca. E foarte important sa coaceti repede si sa o scoateti din tava cu ulei ca sa se usuce. Va garantez ca nu e atat de greu cum pare, amestecul de arome si de culori, din interiorul ruladei va va garanta un colt colorat pe un patou de sarbatori, alaturi de cascaval, masline, rosii si alte bunatati. POFTA BUNA!
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friptura/rulada de carne - de Belle la: 08/12/2004 15:08:04
(la: Retete aristocrate)
carnea as recomanda-o de porc sau piept de pui, vita e prea fibroasa si fierbe greu

se taie carnea in felii de un deget grosime (pieptul de pui se taie in doua pe lungime) si se bate la fel ca pentru snitzele. fiecare felie de carne se asezoneaza cu sare si piper. pe lungimea feliei se pune o feliuta de slanina sau sunca afumata, un varf de cutit usturoi pisat, optional se poate pune o feliuta subtire de castravete murat. se ruleaza felia si se "prinde" cu o scobitoare ca ruloul sa nu se desfaca.

se aseaza rulourile unul langa altul in tava de cuptor cu putin ulei si putina apa. se poate pune in "sos" o frunza de dafin pentru aroma.

se da la cuptor la "foc" mediu spre tare. ca sa nu se usuce carnea se poate acoperi tava cu folie de aluminiu.

cand carnea e facuta, se presara peste rulouri ciuperci taiate felii (preferabil din conserva fiindca sunt gata fierte) si se acopera fiecare rulou cu o felie de cascaval sau branza topita si se mai lasa in cuptor 10-15 minute la foc mic spre mediu.

p.s. ptr adriana (mai e o adela pe-aici si ca sa nu se creeze confuzie o sa-ti zic adriana). .... m-am umflat toata in pene citindu-ti comentariul ;) multumesc frumos, ma supra-apreciezi da' nu te contrazic ca nu-i frumos :)). ma bucur ca ti-au placut retetele si sper sa te incumeti sa le incerci. ideea de-a le strange la un loc nu-mi apartine in totalitate. "fefelinele" au avut contributia lor la aceasta initiativa fiindca e greu sa cauti o anume reteta pe subiectul cu "trancaneala aristocrata" in conditiile in care sunt peste 30 de pagini de conversatie libera. oricand ai intrebari sau vrei sa stii o reteta care nu e inca scrisa aici, poti sa ne intrebi. vei observa ca la trancaneala exact asta se intampla, adica multe si nimic, si esti binevenita sa ni te alaturi. hugsssss back si te-asteptam la trancaneala.

p.s. ptr anisia.... mersi de reteta fatooooo, uitasem ce buna e placinta, mi-ai dat idee ce sa le fac baietilor in uichend. eu obisnuiam sa pun un pic de gris in loc de faina (asta ca alternativa pentru cine n-are faina la indemana). e bestiala ideea cu nucile deasupra, asta n-o stiam.
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Prajitura "Alba ca zapada" - de Belle la: 14/12/2004 18:13:47
(la: Retete aristocrate)
preferata mea... as putea manca non-stop dimineata, la pranz si seara

Prajitura "Alba ca zapada"

Trimisa de: LIDIA.P
Durata
50 min

Ingrediente:
Pentru crema: 1/2 lapte, 3 linguri faina, 1 pachet margarina (Unirea), 300 gr. zahar pudra, o lamiie mare. Pentru foi: 3 oua, 5 linguri zahar pudra (100 gr.), 5 linguri ulei, 2 linguri lapte, 1 lingurita amoniac nestins, un praf de sare, faina pentru o coca nu prea tare (cca.400 g.)
Complexitate: Ridicata
Nota:
Numar voturi: 4
Comentarii: 2 Vezi..


Mod de preparare
Crema: 1/2 lapte si 3 linguri de faina se amesteca si se pun intr-un vas pe foc, amestecindu-se cu telul pina se obtinem o pasta care se desprinde de pe tel, dupa care se lasa la racit. In acest timp se freaca un pachet de margarina cu 300 gr. zahar pudra peste care se adauga pasta rece. Se rade o lamiie pe razatoarea cu ochiuri mici, se stoarce de zeama si se adauga coaja si zeama in pasta de mai sus.
Folie: Se freaca bine 3 oua cu 5 linguri de zahar pudra (100 g), se adauga 5 linguri de ulei, 2 linguri lapte si o lingurita amoniac nestins, un praf de sare si faina cat sa formeze o coca nu prea tare. Aceasta coca se imparte in trei, fiecare parte se intinde in foaie care se coace pe spatele tavii unse, la foc potrivit. Foile se inteapa cu furculita, din loc in loc, pentru a impiedica umflarea acestora. Durata de coacere este de 2-3 minute pentru fiecare foaie. Asambalrea: Se asaza o foaie pe un suport de marimea foii, se pune o jumatate din cantitatea de crema, apoi alta foaie si cealalta parte de crema dupa care urmeaza a treia foaie pe care o pudram bine cu zahar pudra. Se pune peste prajitura o coala alba de hirtie si o greutate (nu prea mare). Se tine la rece pina a doua zi.

Mod de servire
A doua zi, se taie prajitura in patratele sau romburi si se serveste pe platou. Dupa preferinta, se pune cacao intr-una dintre foi (cea din mijloc).

culeasa de pe www.culinar.ro
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tort cu crema moca (de la o amica din vest) - de anisia la: 26/03/2005 20:11:01
(la: Retete aristocrate)
blat: 2 dl de nuci pisate, 2 dl zahar, 2 linguri de cacao, 3 oua, 1 albus. se amesteca nucile cu zaharul si cacao si apoi se inglobeaza ouale si albusul cu mixerul. se coace in forma rotunda tapetata cu hartie de copt, la 225 de grade celsius jos in cuptor.
crema moca: 3 dl. frisca lichida, 1 galbenus, 1 lingura de ness, 3 linguri de zahar pudra. se bate frisca pana devine de consistenta unei ciulama. se amesteca galbenusul cu nessul si zaharul pudra. si apoi se mixeaza cu frisca batuta in prealabil.
dupa ce blatul s-a racit, nu se scoate din forma. se pune crema peste, se acopera cu folie de plastic si se da la frigider min.2 ore inainte de servire. se orneaza cu ciocolata rasa.
irma, simeon, - de cico la: 20/07/2005 23:44:31
(la: Romania sub ape! Cine este de vina?)
Am dedus eu din ce-ati scris ca e si "ajutorul" unora la dezlantuirile astea ale naturii, iar cu situatia exacta din Ro e clar ca nu-s total la curent.

Ce vroiam sa spun e ca si-aici, in America, ai de-a face cu situatii deseori similare, oricit de diferit (mai bun, desigur) ar fi nivelul de trai si oricite masuri ar lua oamenii. Ca te instalezi pe coasta de est cu gindul ca "aici nu-s cutremure" si doar acu' vreun an au avut un cutremur (mic, e drept) parca pe undeva prin quebec. Ca-ti spui "pe-aici nu mai raminem fara caldura si electricitate iarna" si tot se poate intimpla sa pici pe-asemenea situatii (sa nu fiu gresit inteles insa : sint doar exceptii, ca-n rest confortul vietii cotidiene e totusi net superior). Ca, din prea multa dragoste pentru mama-natura, s-au inmultit ursii de la Stincosi spre Pacific, ca te trezesti cu ei in case sau in ghena de gunoi (de se sperie copiii cind pleaca sau vin de la scoala). Ca centrul (spre est) Canadei si SUA sint anual inundate primavara de revarsarile fluviilor.

E clar ca rar gasesti pe-aici poluarea si praful prins de frunze din copacii Bucurestiului. Si totusi, mai toate marile orase plutesc prin smog. Iar problema nu e doar lipsa de aliniere a SUA la acordul din Kyoto. Clima e clar in schimbare peste tot, ca-i vorba de El Nino, de gazele de esapament si stratul de ozon, de foliile din strafundurile coastei Californiei, ce se-asteapta de mult timp s-o ia razna... :(
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ehe omule, petrolul este dome - de RSI la: 18/08/2005 00:26:59
(la: HIDROGENUL- energia de maine)
ehe omule, petrolul este domeniul meu de activitate şi aş putea să ţin conferinţe întregi despre industria asta. Ca să facem pe scurt o poveste lungă : din petrol se obţin toţi combustibilii folosiţi în transport sau în producerea energiei: gaz lichefiat, benzină, motorină, păcură. Deasemeni, materiile prime pentru industria petrochimică, şi în ultimă instanţă folii de polietilenă,fibre sintetice, plastice etc. Deasemeni, amoniac, îngrăşăminte, pesticide, şi materii prime pentru industriile farmaceutică, cosmetică şi multe altele. Deci petrolul nu-i folosit numai la producerea de combustibili şi de aceea va fi greu de înlocuit în totalitate. Şi a propos Calypso : o rafinărie medie prelucrează cam 4-5 milioane barili pe an.
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"- Dubito ergo cogito"
"- Cogito ergo sum"

Descartes
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De ce atribuiti limbajul codi - de bombonik la: 11/11/2005 22:03:09
(la: Limbajul codificat.)
De ce atribuiti limbajul codificat unui om mincinos? Sunt ml exemple in care se fol un limbaj codificat din necesitate. Cum ar fi viata daca le-am stii pe toate si n-am mai avea ce sa descoperim?
Lucruri regretate - de mode555 la: 10/02/2006 09:30:14
(la: Ce regretati de pe vremea lui Ceausescu?)
Eu regret copilaria, nimic altceva, si va spun comunismul in sine este un sistem mult prea avansat pentru omenirea de acum, o sa ia inca vreo o mie de ani ca acest sistem sa functioneze.A fost scris de niste jidani destepti.La noi nu era comunism pe vremea lui nea Nicu era asa un sistem creat de mintea lui de nebun, cu ochelari de cal.Eu sunt in state de 10 ani si ma uit la romanii astia care comenteaza tot felul de prostii si nici nu au idee despre ce vorbesc, asa sunt romanii rai si zic una azi si alta maine , foarte instabili.Asta e o lista pt cei nostalgici la care eu adaug incontinu ce imi aduc aminte:


Inghetata Vafa (numele furat de la waffer)
Inghetata Doina, Sport si Extra
Guma Bib bib si tip tip (tipitip)
Tiganci cu seminte
Tiganci cu tigari Kent ( Acum ma intreb de ce tocmai Kent - era ca o valuta Kentul)
Tiganci cu sticle goale prin cartier strigand -Sticle goale cupar
Masina Lastun
Mingie de 35
Mingie de 18
Penare de vinilin sau de lemn chinezesti
Stilouri chinezesti Hero sau cele cu cap de panda
Cico, Brifcor-mai rar
Iaurt la borcan
Creveti -Ba mie mi placeau chiar daca erau singurul produs peste tot -ce tampiti de ce tocmai creveti?
Turta dulce
Costum de scoala
Comandant de detasament si de grupa
Tigari BT, DS, Femina etc
O saptamana merg masinile cu sot, celalalta fara sot
Vacante de cateva ori pe an
Aprozar
Mos Gerila
2 ore la tv
Album duminical
Cascadorii Rasului
Atlas pe bulgari
Eugenii
Biciclete cu coarne (acum vad ca erau pt fete)
Nu avem butelie
Petarde
Pelicanol
Crose de minigolf cu ciocolata de casa in maner
Pistol cu ventuze
Soldati verzi de lupta
Mecano
Eefantel cu apa
Pstoalele cu capse
Set de cuburi din lemn
Nu te supara frate
Cracan si invizoace
Teava cu cornete
Tun cu carbit
Radio RIC
Rahan
Matricola cusuta pe maneca (si ne plangem acum de marca bestiei)
Trusa de traforaj
Mingie de piele Artex (cine o avea era THE MAN)
Aventurile lui Habarnam
Ceas cu 7 melodii (Erai gazilionar daca aveai asa ceva)
Hopa Mitica
Buzdugan cu ciocolata in maner
Pocnitoare cu fosfor facuta din 2 suruburi puse cap in cap cu o piulita si folie de plastic in spate (invat copii la prostii)
Moneda imensa de 5 lei de aluminiu
Jocul cu mingia "La Malai"
Jucam carti pe surprize
Trusa cu lupe "Optik"
Dropsuri date prin cacao
Aurora (o bautura cu gust de lamaie)
O ciocolata mica cu un fel de zahar pudra ud inauntru (in genul la York peppermint patties dar fara gust)
La al XIII lea congres ceausescu reales
Cules plante medicinale pt scoala in special tei ( am cazut si din pom)
Maculatura (puneam si cate un pietroi sa atarne greu)
Gala desenului animat
Lumea copiilor
Un joc pe surprize cu pietre sau lant unde se punea o piatra pe o surpriza intr-un cerc sau cam asa ceva (early 80's)
Joc de fotbal cu nasturi


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Nostalgic - de mode555 la: 26/12/2005 11:37:04
(la: Ce regretati de pe vremea lui Ceausescu?)
Comunismul e prea avansat pt omenirea de acum poate in vreo 1000 de ani sa mearga cand oamenii ar face lucrurile din placere pentru societate.Din copilaria mea...........


Inghetata Vafa (numele furat de la waffer)
Inghetata Doina, Sport si Extra
Guma Bib bib si tip tip (tipitip)
Tiganci cu seminte
Tiganci cu tigari Kent ( Acum ma intreb de ce tocmai Kent - era ca o valuta Kentul)
Tiganci cu sticle goale prin cartier strigand -Sticle goale cupar
Masina Lastun
Mingie de 35
Mingie de 18
Penare de vinilin sau de lemn chinezesti
Stilouri chinezesti Hero sau cele cu cap de panda
Cico, Brifcor-mai rar
Iaurt la borcan
Creveti -Ba mie mi placeau chiar daca erau singurul produs peste tot -ce tampiti de ce tocmai creveti?
Turta dulce
Costum de scoala
Comandant de detasament si de grupa
Tigari BT, DS, Femina etc
O saptamana merg masinile cu sot, celalalta fara sot
Vacante de cateva ori pe an
Aprozar
Mos Gerila
2 ore la tv
Album duminical
Cascadorii Rasului
Atlas pe bulgari
Eugenii
Biciclete cu coarne (acum vad ca erau pt fete)
Nu avem butelie
Petarde
Pelicanol
Crose de minigolf cu ciocolata de casa in maner
Pistol cu ventuze
Soldati verzi de lupta
Mecano
Eefantel cu apa
Pstoalele cu capse
Set de cuburi din lemn
Nu te supara frate
Cracan si invizoace
Teava cu cornete
Tun cu carbit
Radio RIC
Rahan
Matricola cusuta pe maneca (si ne plangem acum de marca bestiei)
Trusa de traforaj
Mingie de piele Artex (cine o avea era THE MAN)
Aventurile lui Habarnam
Ceas cu 7 melodii (Erai gazilionar daca aveai asa ceva)
Hopa Mitica
Buzdugan cu ciocolata in maner
Pocnitoare cu fosfor facuta din 2 suruburi puse cap in cap cu o piulita si folie de plastic in spate (invat copii la prostii)
Moneda imensa de 5 lei de aluminiu
Jocul cu mingia "La Malai"
Jucam carti pe surprize
Trusa cu lupe "Optik"
Dropsuri date prin cacao
Aurora (o bautura cu gust de lamaie)
O ciocolata mica cu un fel de zahar pudra ud inauntru (in genul la York peppermint patties dar fara gust)
La al XIII lea congres ceausescu reales
Cules plante medicinale pt scoala in special tei ( am cazut si din pom)
Maculatura (puneam si cate un pietroi sa atarne greu)
Gala desenului animat
Lumea copiilor
Un joc pe surprize cu pietre sau lant unde se punea o piatra pe o surpriza intr-un cerc sau cam asa ceva (early 80's)
Joc de fotbal cu nasturi
Nechezol
Tigari Bucegi pline de bete - Vrei o buceaga? (De astea chiar uitasem complet)
Caramele in care iti spargeai dintii
Revista Cutezatorii
100 albastra cu Balcescu pe ea
belle - de donquijote la: 27/12/2005 22:11:08
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "7")
vinetele le fac direct pe flacara de la aragaz (pun folie de aluminiu pe aragaz)
le las putin acoperite cu sare
le cojesc calde sa nu se inegreasca
lescurg bine si le bat cu ulei de canola (nu de masline ca are gust prea tare)
Pt. Horia D - de Paianjenul la: 02/01/2006 13:40:03
(la: Cine conduce lumea?)
"la pearl harbour, au fost ucisi aprox 2000 de persoane, (majoritatea militari), pe 9/11 au fost ucisi approx 3000 de civili. si vrei ca america sa stea cu mainile in san si sa nu faca nimic???"


- O intrebare care asteapta inca un raspuns rezonabil (in loc de povesti medievale) este: "CINE i-a omorit de fapt pe cei 3000 de civili la 9/11?"... Faptul ca la bordul respectivelor avioane s-ar fi aflat intr-adevar pasageri de origine araba, cu autentice intentii teroriste, n-ar fi neaparat si automat o dovada ca ei au fost cei care au executat efectiv pilotajul avioanelor.

Pt. moment, doua remarci: daca versiunea oficiala este onesta, de ce a fost nevoie de penibilitati de genul:

1. In New York, several blocks from the ruins of the World Trade Center, a passport authorities said belonged to one of the hijackers was discovered a few days ago, according to city Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/gen.america.under.attack/

Adica, avionul se buseste de turn, benzina din rezervoare ia foc si focul dezvolta o temperatura atit de ridicata incit topeste coloanele de otel care sustin structura... dar nu reusesc sa "incinereze" pasaportul hijacker-ului - pasaport facut din hirtie (eventual protejata cu folie de plastic)... si care (pasaport) se conserva atit de bine incit numele posesorului (si probabil poza) ramin lizibile...

2. . . . In addition, the president (President Bush) said he would give grants to airlines to allow them to develop stronger cockpit doors and transponders that cannot be switched off from the cockpit. Government grants would also be available to pay for video monitors that would be placed in the cockpit to alert pilots to trouble in the cabin; and new technology, probably far in the future, allowing air traffic controllers to land distressed planes by remote control. ("Bush to Increase Federal Role in Security at Airports," The New York Times, Sept. 28, 2001; emphasis added.)

Ignoranta tipica a "presedintelui" in multe privinte este bine cunoscuta deja in jurul planetei... dar, chiar sa fi fost atit de dezinformat la data de 28 septembrie 2001 incit sa nu fi stiut ca un asemenea tip de avion exista deja de dinainte de 24 aprilie 2001, fabricat fiind de catre nimeni altcineva decit de americani, la ora aceea fiind deja si testat?...

Si lista cu asemenea obiectii poate sa continue la nesfirsit... dar pina una alta, ia-ti inima-n dinti si arunca o ocheada in link-ul asta:

http://www.serendipity.li/wot/valentine.htm
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maan :)) - de Intruder la: 11/01/2006 11:40:32
(la: papa bun)
inainte de a muri, n-as manca nimic, sa nu aiba de lucru aia care se ocupa cu ''impaierea'' mea...
poate daca ar urma sa fiu deportat in Siberia, as manca:
- salata de vinete si ardei copti
- ceafa de porc la gratar (facuta de mine)
- panettone d-ala cu multe visine acrisoare-n el
- tagliatelle cu ciuperci
- scrumbii de Dunare facute de intrusa (nu stiu bine cum le face - le naclaieste cu ulei, sare, piper si mai stiu io ce, le-nveleste-n folie de aluminiu si le baga-n cuptor...apoi pune lamaie si patrunjel...) si peste scrumbiile astea sos d-ala alb cu unt si zeama de lamaie si putin usturoi...mmmmm, mor!
- ciorba de burta facuta de tata
- zacusca facuta de mama
- baclavale facute de cineva de la Eforie Nord (de fapt, una singura, sa nu dau in diabet!...nu ma omor cu dulciurile)
- inghetata de lamaie de la o gelateria pe care-o stiu eu
- chestii d-alea mici de patiserie ce se consuma-n unele taverne din Grecia
- aualeu, cred ca sunt mai mult de 10...mai vreau branza telemea (stiu io de unde iau) cu ceapa verde, rosii si ridichi
- muraturi de la mama din camara (ca io cu intrusa nu le avem, suntem 'telectuali!)
- mamaliga cu branza si smantana de la bunica mea...si carnati, tot de la ea...si supa de gaina si mai multe...
- vin d-ala care-mi place mie
- si multa cafea facuta de mine sau de o colega de serviciu, Bianca...
- icre nu zic, pentru ca am in Siberia, cred
- slanina cu ceapa sparta-n pumnul meu muncitoresc, asta o mananc cu maan, pe un ziar...si paine facuta de bunica...si ceva din butoiul ala, din beci...
- ahhhh...si creveti vreau...si salata de fructe si supa portugheza facuta tot de mine...gataaaa, nu mai pot manca nimic!!!
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semper idem...
catalint - de clody la: 26/01/2006 19:42:32
(la: De ce te urasc)
Iti raspund si eu cu un citat, traducerea e proprie:

Gandurile nu vor sa spuna nimic. Nimic iremediabil, in orice caz, nici definitiv. Ele pleca la fel de repede cum vin, volatile, imprevizibile si fara urmari.

"Les pensees ne veulent rien dire. Rien d'irremediable, en tout cas, ni de definitif. Elles s'en vont aussi vite qu'elles viennent, volatiles, imprevisibles et sans consequences." - Christine Orban, "Une folie amoureuse"

L’adieu est une lettre de toi que je garderai sur mon cœur


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auditul - de proletaru la: 22/02/2006 20:34:42
(la: lupti pentru iubire?)
... am plecat! cheia e sub prag!

eu cred ca dupa ce trece faza de dragoste romantica, dupa ce folul ala al pasiunii mai paleste un pic, ramane angajamentul, commitement-ul, loialitatea. astea raman doar daca atunci cand relatia s-a format si fiecare si-a asumat o anume parte din responsabilitati, s-au invocat si s-au stabilit valorile comune, telurile, asteptarile si comportamentele permise sau cele sanctionabile. e o problema de valori.
daca relatia e "scrisa" ca fiecare are dreptul lal viata lui privata, ca in anumite circumstante fiecare are voie sa faca ce vrea sau alte tipuri de libertati negociate.
atentie! oricum fiecare are spatiul lui intim, o anume libertate pe care celalalt o consimte si o accepta, dar atunci cand ea ajunge subiect de negociere, e clar ca se fortzeaza aceste limite.
traim intr-o societate in care exista putine surse de presiune sociala care sa tina cuplul unit (la tzara comunitatea face aceasta presiune prin sanctionarea simbolica a celor care divorteaza).
o alta idee, chiar daca suna cinic, e aceea ca viata cuplului se supune acelorasi reguli de audit social ca si cea a organizatiilor (fie ele firme, societati, cluburi, ONG-uri). ce inseamna asta? o analiza de tip SWOT in urma careia stii daca situatia cuplului tau e beton sau moloz. evident, sa nu-si imagineze cineva ca se sta cu creionul in mana si se completeaza schema SWOT ci este o chestie la nivel de bun simt: cat de rau e in comparatie cu binele si cat de nesigur traim la un moment dat. certitudinile sau lipsa lor ne permit sa evaluam riscurile despartiri sau a ramanerii impreuna.
chiar daca suna ciudat, la asta se ajunge. nu spun deloc o grozavie: ne casatorim in halou si ne despartim in disonanta. e vorba de efectul de halou in care cateva lucruri bune domina perceptiile (efectul poliana sau "viata in roz") si disonanta in care lucrurile negative dobandesc puterea de a darama orice pozitiv. rog a mi se scuza didacticismul de mai sus... dar sunt patit cu a mi se cere tot felul de definitii.

putem dezbate subjectul.
mode555 - de Guinevere la: 07/03/2006 19:22:55
(la: Ce regretati de pe vremea lui Ceausescu?)
Excelenta lista, cred ca o voi "imprumuta" daca nu ai nimic impotriva. :o)

"O ciocolata mica cu un fel de zahar pudra ud inauntru (in genul la York peppermint patties dar fara gust)"

S-ar putea sa fie ciocolata "Pitic"? Nu imi mai amintesc foarte bine de asta. Dar imi amintesc mentosanele si ciocolata "Luminita". Apoi, prajiturile alea invelite in folie, "Magura".

Desenele animate "Mihaela" de la sapte fara zece. "Alladin" si "Heidi", pe programul doi. Sifonul cu sirop, servit pe strada in pahare verzi, groase.
Lampile cu gaz
Bentitele
Pufuletii in pungi de hartie (acum sunt diferiti!)
Tigaitele din dopuri de bere
Ciocolatelele chinezesti cu pesti pe ambalaj
"Studio X" pe bulgari (a se citi "hix"!)

Cred ca mai sunt o gramada... ma mai storc! :o)____________________________________________
De la sublim la ridicol nu este decat un pas.(Napoleon)
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A very long engagement - de Guinevere la: 23/03/2006 22:07:40
(la: Cele mai bune filme)
Fain, intradevar, mi-a placut Audrey Toutou. Mi-a placut si in "À la folie... pas du tout." Jumatate de film am crezut varianta "ei"! :o)
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