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ptr. Zamolxe - de SB_one la: 12/11/2003 15:16:14
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Ai vorbit ca un tarabostes; nu-mi ramine decit sa adaug cele de mai jos.

> This will get you fired up!
> I wonder how many people are aware of this information. Love him or
> loath him, he nailed this one right on the head
> By Rush Limbaugh:
> I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the
> September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform
> are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you
> just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.
> Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something
> really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.
> If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to
> get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of
> $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
> If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed In
> action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half
> of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are
> the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry.
> And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When
> the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
> Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of
> $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.
> Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong
> place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL
> OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.
> We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the
> Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same
> deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that,
> some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for
> compensation as well.
> You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel
> of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just
> really sad.
> Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive
> next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the
> Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live
> in low-rent housing. Make sense?
> However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many
> of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to
> receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now
> equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social
> Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
> If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an
> E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people
> who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I
> would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks
> before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and
> daughters who are now fighting.
> "When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair
> to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.
> If your interested there is more............
> This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going. SOCIAL SECURITY:
> (This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.)
> Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our
> Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years
> ago they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no
> congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical
> purposes their plan works like this:
> When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die,
> except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.
> For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives
> may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred
> Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of
> their lives. This is calculated on an average life span for each.
> Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they
> voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for
> this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from
> the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! From our own Social Security
> Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into --every payday until we
> retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get
> an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we
> would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68
> years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!
> Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.
> And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from
> under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security
> plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted
> and maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a
> difference..
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. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Wall Street up 165 point in t - de Horia D la: 03/11/2004 16:39:58
(la: Alegerile in USA)
Wall Street up 165 point in the 1st minute of trading!!

The things that come to those who wait are what's left behind by those
who got there first.
Cranberry Pecan Rugalach - de fefe la: 13/12/2004 23:54:27
(la: Retete aristocrate)

Makes 64 pastries
Prep: 45 min.
Chill: 8 hrs.
Bake: 20 min.

Cranberry Pecan Filling

Makes about 1.5 cups......Stir together all ingredients until blended.
Prep: 10 min.

¾ cup sugar
2/3 cup chopped pecans, toasted
2/3 cup finely chopped sweetened dried cranberries
½ cup butter, melted
1.5 teaspoons ground cinnamon
¾ teaspoon ground allspice

Beat butter and cream cheese at medium speed with an electric mixer until creamy; gradually add granulated sugar, beating until fluffy. Stir in flour and salt. Divide dough into 8 equal portions; flatten each portion into a disk; wrap each disk separately in plastic wrap. Chill 8 hours.

Roll 1 portion of dough at a time into an 8-inch circle on a lightly floured surface. Spread with 3 tablespoons Cranberry Pecan Filling, leaving a ½ inch border around edge. Cut circle into 8 wedges; roll up wedges, starting at wide end, to form a crescent shape. Place, point side down, on a lightly greased baking sheet. Brush gently with egg; sprinkle evenly with sparkling sugar. Repeat procedure with remaining dough and filling.

Bake at 350*F on a lightly greased baking sheet for 20 minutes or until golden brown. Remove to wire racks to cool completely.

Note: Sparkling sugar is available at stores that sell cake decorating supplies.

Source: Ann Nace.....Southern Living Magazine
Corectare la CRANBERRY PECAN RUGALACH - de fefe la: 21/12/2004 22:38:11
(la: Retete aristocrate)
mi-am dat seama ca am omis cea mai importanta parte a prajiturii: aluatul


Makes 64 pastries
Prep: 45 min.
Chill: 8 hrs.
Bake: 20 min.

1 cup butter, softened
1 (8-ounce) package cream cheese, softened
½ cup granulated sugar
2 ¾ cups all purpose flour
½ teaspoon salt
Cranberry Pecan Filling
1 large egg lightly beaten
½ cup sparkling sugar

Cranberry Pecan Filling

Makes about 1.5 cups......Stir together all ingredients until blended.
Prep: 10 min.

¾ cup sugar
2/3 cup chopped pecans, toasted
2/3 cup finely chopped sweetened dried cranberries
½ cup butter, melted
1 ½ teaspoons ground cinnamon
¾ teaspoon ground allspice

Beat butter and cream cheese at medium speed with an electric mixer until creamy; gradually add granulated sugar, beating until fluffy. Stir in flour and salt. Divide dough into 8 equal portions; flatten each portion into a disk; wrap each disk separately in plastic wrap. Chill 8 hours.

Roll 1 portion of dough at a time into an 8-inch circle on a lightly floured surface. Spread with 3 tablespoons Cranberry Pecan Filling, leaving a ½ inch border around edge. Cut circle into 8 wedges; roll up wedges, starting at wide end, to form a crescent shape. Place, point side down, on a lightly greased baking sheet. Brush gently with egg; sprinkle evenly with sparkling sugar. Repeat procedure with remaining dough and filling.

Bake at 350*F on a lightly greased baking sheet for 20 minutes or until golden brown. Remove to wire racks to cool completely.

Note: Sparkling sugar is available at stores that sell cake decorating supplies.

Source: Ann Nace.....Southern Living Magazine
Good point, fefe! - de gigi2005 la: 17/05/2005 00:54:38
(la: Sandra Mae iubeste! Si tace...)
Good point, fefe!
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what's the point of this?? - de sa fim seriosi la: 19/05/2005 04:02:09
(la: Ce mai faci?)
what's the point of this??

suma viciilor ramane tot timpul constanta
tot morrison - de teo_05 la: 23/06/2005 10:34:59
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
An American Prayer

Do you know the warm progress under the stars?
Do you know we exist?
Have you forgotten the keys to the Kingdom?
Have you been borne yet and are you alive?

Let's reinvent the gods, all the myths of the ages
Celebrate symbols from deep elder forests
(Have you forgotten the lessons
of the ancient war?)

We need great golden copulations

The fathers are cackling in trees of the forest
Our mother is dead in the sea

Do you know we are being led to slaughters by placid admirals
and that fat slow generals are getting obscene on young blood

Do you know we are ruled by T.V.
The moon is a dry blood beast
Guerilla bands are rolling numbers in the next block of green vine
amassing for warfare on innocent herdsmen who are just dying

O great creator of being
grant us one more hour to perform our art
and perfect our lives

The moths and atheists are doubly divine and dying
We live, we die
and death not ends it
Journey we more into the Nightmare
Cling to life our passion'd flower
Cling to cunts and cocks of despair
We got our final vision by clap
Columbus' groin got filled with green death

(I touched her thigh and death smiled)

We have assembled inside this ancient and insane theatre
To propagate our lust for life and flee the swarming wisdom of the streets
The barns are stormed
The windows kept
and only one of all the rest
To dance and save us
With the divine mockery of words
Music inflames temperament

(When the true King's murderers are allowed to roam free
a 1000 magicians arise in the land)

Where are the feasts we were promised
Where is the wine
The New Wine (dying on the vine)

resident mockery
give us an hour for magic
We of the purple glove
We of the starling flight and velvet hour
We of arabic pleasure's breed
We of sundome and the night

Give us a creed
To believe
A night of Lust
Give us trust in
The Night

Give of color
hundred hues
a rich Mandala
for me and you

And for your silky
pillowed house
a head, wisdom
and a bed

Troubled decree
Resident mockery
has claimed thee

We used to believe
in the good old days
We still receive
In little ways

The Things of Kindness
And unsporting brow
Forget and allow

Did you know freedom exists in a school book
Did you know madmen are running our prison
within a jail, within a gaol
within a white free protestant

We're perched headlong on the edge of boredom
We're reaching for death on the end of a candle
We're trying for something
That's already found us

We can invent Kingdoms of our own
grand purple thrones, those chairs of lust
and love we must, in beds of rust

Steel doors lock in prisoner's screams
and muzak, AM, rocks their dreams
No black men's pride to hoist the beams
while mocking angels sift what seems

To be a collage of magazine dust
Scratched on foreheads of walls of trust
This is just jail for those who must
get up in the morning and fight for such

unusable standards
while weeping maidens
show-off penury and pout
ravings for a mad staff

Wow, I'm sick of doubt
Live in the light of certain

Cruel bindings
The servants have the power
dog-men and their mean women
pulling poor blankets over
our sailors
(and where were you in our lean hour)
Milking your moustache?
or grinding a flower?
I'm sick of dour faces
Staring at me from the T.V.
Tower. I want roses in
my garden bower; dig?
Royal babies, rubies
must now replace aborted
Strangers in the mud
These mutants, blood-meal
for the plant that's plowed

They are waiting to take us into the severed garden
Do you know how pale and wanton thrillful
comes death on strange hour
unannounced, unplanned for
like a scaring over-friendly guest you've brought to bed
Death makes angels of us all and gives us wings
where we had shoulders smooth as raven's claws

No more money, no more fancy dress
This other Kingdom seems by far the best
until its other jaw reveals incest
and loose obedience to a vegetable law

I will not go
Prefer a Feast of Friends
To the Giant family

Great screaming Christ
Lazy Mary will get you up
upon a Sunday morning

"The movie will begin in 5 moments"
The mindless Voice announced
"All those unseated, will await
The next show"

We filed slowly, languidly
into the hall. The auditorium
was vast, and silent.
As we seated and were darkened
The Voice continued:

"The program for this evening
is not new. You have seen
This entertainment thru and thru.
You've seen your birth, your
life and death; you might recall
all of the rest -- (did you
have a good world when you
died?) -- enough to base
a movie on?"

An iron chuckle rapped our
minds like a fist.

I'm getting out of here
Where're you going?
To the other side of the morning
Please don't chase the clouds
pagodas, temples

Her * gripped him
like a warm friendly

"It's all right.
All your friends are here."

When can I meet them?
"After you've eaten"
I'm not hungry
"O, we meant beaten"

Silver stream, silvery scream,
impossible concentration

Here come the comedians
look at them smile
Watch them dance
an indian mile

Look at them gesture
How aplomb
So to gesture everyone

Words dissemble
Words be quick
Words resemble walking sticks

Plant them
They will grow
Watch them waver so

I'll always be
a word-man
Better than a birdman

But I'll charge
Won't get away
w/out lodging a dollar

Shall I say it again
aloud, you get the point
No food w/out fuel's gain

I'll be, the irish loud
unleashed my beak
at peak of powers

O girl, unleash
your worried comb

O worried mind

Sin in the fallen
Backwoods by the blind

She smells debt
on my new collar

Arrogant prose
Tied in a network of fast quest
Hence the obsession

Its quick to admit
Fats borrowed rhythm
Woman came between them

Women of the world unite
Make the world safe
For a scandalous life

Hee Heee
Cut your throat
Life is a joke

Your wife's in a moat
The same boat
Here comes the goat

Blood Blood Blood Blood
They're making a joke
of our universe

Are you more real than me
I'll burn you, and set you free
Wept bitter tears
Excessive courtesy
I won't forget

A hot sick lava flowed up,
Rustling and bubbling.
The paper-face.
Mirror-mask, I love you mirror.

He had been brainwashed for 4 hrs.
The LT. puzzled in again
"ready to talk"
"No sir" -- was all he'd say.
Go back to the gym.
Very peaceful

Air base in the desert
looking out venetian blinds
a plane
a desert flower
cool cartoon

The rest of the World
is reckless and dangerous
Look at the
Stag films

A ship leaves port
mean horse of another thicket
wishbone of desire
decry the metal fox
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Interesant, and your point is - de RSI la: 13/01/2006 16:20:23
Interesant, and your point is?...
"Eficienta este cea mai inteligenta forma de lene. (David Dunham) "
power point in conferinte - de om la: 28/03/2006 15:39:48
(la: Voi intrebati, voi raspundeti)
stie cineva cum pot sa pun o prezentare power point pe o conferinta?
Mentionez ca nu are link pe internet.
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Match point de Woody - de Cassandra la: 05/06/2006 10:53:25
(la: Cele mai bune filme)

Match point de Woody Allen. Foarte bine facut, mi-a placut
dacia1300, good point :) - de Calypso la: 04/12/2006 10:35:28
(la: Concurs "Miss Cafenea 2006" - editia II-a - ARENA VA APARTINE !!)

good point :)
what`s the point? ---------- - de Cri Cri la: 11/01/2007 03:50:15
(la: Corul ingerilor (fragment))
what`s the point?
"Cine nu se teme de nimic e mai puternic decat acela de care se tem toti."
am inceput cautarile :) - de GloriaVictis la: 08/01/2010 08:40:13 Modificat la: 08/01/2010 08:40:29
(la: Unde merge mia, merge si suta...)

Golden Retriever, fiul lui RoJCh Koala Hidalgo's Spirit & Latino Heat of Wolf Point :)))
E dramatic sa incerci sa opui rezistenta la asa ceva! :))

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CNN top story - de darianne la: 30/09/2003 16:18:36
(la: Romania, lumea a patra si tara pedofililor)
Scottsman ca Scottsmanu', da' uite ca a facut cap de afis povestea chiar si la CNN World :) Macar isi mai aduc aminte ca exista Romania... chiar daca doar legat de povestea (ne)amoroasa a unor minori(tati).

Enjoy paine si circ! Se intreaba cineva cate fete rroma se marita la 12 ani, sunt batute crunt sau chiar omorate de parinti pt. ca fug de mirele care le-a fost "sortit" de familie cand inca de abia ziceau "mama" (asa cum a facut si Mrs. Cioaba - actual Birita), sunt obligate sa traiasca viata pe care o traiesc, chiar daca ele au vise mai inalte etc., etc.?... Nimanui nu ii pasa de toti ceilalti, ci doar de cateva VIPuri in jurul carora se invart cu camerele si microfoanele si carnetelele de notite. De parca toata viata tuturor s-ar agata de firul subtire impletit de stelele de carton romanesti. Si nu ma refer doar la regi si imparati, ci si la "cartoanele" de la TV, radio, presa in general. Cum ajunge cate unu sa isi puna fatza "pe sticla", e declarat vedeta si i se face statuie.

Dar de fapt care e "point-ul" meu in toata povestea asta, m-am pierdut? Scrie cineva o continuare la chestia asta?


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O intrebare foarte buna - de gabi la: 17/10/2003 18:32:31
(la: de ce atat de putini romani citesc ziare?)
Good Point (!), la cateva mile de Funeral Hills si cu vedere la Death Valley, pentru sublinierea atmosferei generale... (: (

Raspunsurile posibile/simultane, pe care le stim cu totii, sunt:
-cozile din '90 au fost expresia incantarii vremelnice in fata unui lucru nou (libertatea presei) si au avut ca obiect mai putin publicatiile de substanta (rare, e-adevarat) si mai mult ziarele de scandal.
-potentiala audienta pentru ziare de informare obiectiva si de analiza, deja redusa, nu a facut decat sa se subtieze: prin emigrare masiva si prin frustrare cotidiana => neputinta => "la ce bun?".
-majoritatea ziarele care au supravietuit fiind nevoite sa functioneze SI dupa criterii economice, au ales sa functioneze EXCLUSIV dupa aceste criterii, favorizand senzationalul ieftin, substantei.
-au fost rare (a fost, de fapt, vreunul?) ziarele ne-partinice, prin urmare adevaratii intelectuali (principalii "consumatori", de fapt, in Romania pre si post'89) s-au scarbit repejor, ei fiind in continuare putin inclinati sa "adere".
-si mai ales, dar mai ales, romanul mediu evita presa deoarece nu vede in informare o solutie la problemele vietii cotidiene iar "politicul si socialul" ii accentueaza gustul de cenuse care i-a cotropit simtirile si papilele in mod cronic.

Sau poate ma insel...
Presa ticalosita - de zabriski la: 18/10/2003 03:34:17
(la: de ce atat de putini romani citesc ziare?)
Da, fara indoiala ca astea sunt parte dintre raspunsuri.
In plus, sunt prea multe, mult prea multe ziare. Uite, ma uit la revista presei si vad prezentate acolo, alaturi de ziarele care fac eforturi sa ofere, macar din cand in cand, si substanta, tot felul de gazetute cu tiraje de 5-6.000 de exemplare care-si spun “ziare nationale”. E o moda ca fiecare om de afaceri mai rasarit sa-si faca ziar sau sa finanteze unul din umbra. Presa e un instrument de negociere politica. Daca ai un ziar ti se poate face loc pe o lista pentru parlament, poti obtine contracte, poti manevra etc.
Ce vede cumparatorul pe taraba? Vreo 20 de cotidiene de informatie generala editate in Bucuresti (auzisem zilele trecute ca in toata Austria sunt 20 de cotidiene). Cel care nu cumpara in mod obisnuit presa e naucit. Alege la intimplare isi da seama ca a aruncat banii aiurea.
Dar mai cred ceva – ca presa s-a ticalosit, iar oamenii simt asta, chiar daca nu au acces in culisele. Cele 300 - 400 de cotidiene din Romania nu pot supravietui decat cu publicitate – iar clientii de publicitate au aflat repede ce putere au. Ziarele fara scrupule isi santajeaza clientii, ziarele mai decente le fac concesii, publica articole “caldute”, inchid ochii. Sunt putine care incearca sa se mentina si altfel pe linia de plutire – si nu se mai aud in zarva publicistica din Romania.
Ei bine, cititorii nu sunt prosti. Presa produce o singura “marfa”, si marfa aia e credibilitatea. Iar credibilitatea e fragila, se castiga in ani si se pierde repede, toata odata.
E grav. Ziaristii invata ticalosia si compromisul de la sefii lor si de la patroni, care acum domina deciziile editoriale. Vor trebui sa treaca vreo 30 de ani pana cand vor scapa de metehnele astea.
Da, Zabriskie Point. Am vazut filmul demult tare, ar trebui sa-l caut.
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Buun! - de papadie67 la: 18/10/2003 04:00:01
(la: de ce atat de putini romani citesc ziare?)
Acum c-o analizaram si-o rasuciram finutz pe toate fetzele, ce-i de facut?
What's the Point, Mr. Antognoni?
Vor scapa de toate metehnele in 30 de ani, ziceai?
Cat optimism!!
"Pe ce te bazezi?" - vorba lui Preda...Si daca da, de ce si in ce fel? Stiind ca "metehnele" sunt varful unei piramide a carei baze se tot pun de la infrangerea lui Cantemir? Si tot mai acatarii, tot mai mult si tot mai de curand mai mult...
Si iar intreb, deoarece se pare c-am pe cine: ce-i de facut? Ci hai sa facem!
Uite, de-gzemplu (!) nea' RACOVITAN, fara sa-ntrebe, a facut un lucru mare: si multumita lui, putem deja vorbi-ntre noi.
Ai vreo idee spre-o solutie? Eu nu, ca-s puturos si-s numai bun de gura si de aburi, zice lumea. Dar daca ai, iesi pe felie si-om sari, cativa.
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Greu de raspuns precis, dar... - de relu la: 28/10/2003 19:40:21
(la: Romani in strainatate)
Pot sa-mi dau si eu cu parerea. Cind am plecat in vara in '89, securitatea era dupa mine. Poate ca de-aia am plecat, dar, daca nu esti speriat de un mesaj lung (scuze), citeste mai departe:
realitatea din Romania nu era pe placul meu
bineinteles ca am vrut sa gasesc un trai mai bun, incluzind aspectul financiar, de libertate, samd
nu am ales calea cea mai usoara; am trecut doua granite ilegal si am ajuns in Austria dupa 4 zile (slabit 5Kg); a fost riscant si un tur de forta in punctul de vedere al vointei
patriotism? HA-HA-HA! Dirigintele in liceu m-a scos in fata clasei si m-a batjocorit: cum imi permit sa spun ca salariile in Canada sint mai mari decit in Romania! -- ca Romania mama ma hraneste cu piine si.. altele (zicea el). Faptul ca ma face mindru sa ma identific cu Decebal, Eminescu, Enescu, Iorga, samd, se poate numi patriotism? Cind intilnesc romani care sint: mindri, dar nu aroganti, modesti, dar nu ca un sclav, silitori, dar nu fraieri, isteti, dar nu care pretind ca toti altii sint prosti, prietenosi, sinceri, samd, atunci mi se incalzeste inima, si ma bucur. Dar sint putini asa.
renuntat la supravietuire? Hmmm, let's see; am plecat CA SA supravietuiesc! Ca cine stie ce-mi facea securitatea daca ma gasea acasa.

Am citit comentariile scrise de altii. Cu respect as vrea sa spun ca cei care sint in Rom. si nu au trait citiva ani buni in alta tara, nu cred ca au un punct de vedere realistic. Domnului din Canada (care angajeaza studenti romani): acesta este un roman care imi inspira respect. Se vede ca el a inteles viata de aici. Domnului care zice ca americanii nu sint prea inteligenti in comparatie cu romanii. Imi vine sa rid -- aceasta propozitie ne spune ca poate dumneata nu te invirti intr-o societate de americani inteligenti. Oamenii peste tot au prosti si destepti, nu conteaza ce nationalitate sint. Am intilnit o romanca care preda matematica in universitate aici si-mi spune ca a avut o eleva romanca care nu a luat nota mare la lucrare; si ca ne face neamul de ris! Vai de noi, daca romani cu doctorat gindesc asa. My point este ca poti sa ai o groaza de educatie, asta nu inseamna ca stii multe despre viata, si in mod definitiv nu iti da dreptul sa ii consideri pe altii inferiori si sa-i rapesti de umanitatea lor, si de dreptul de a fi respectat, de a-ti trai viata in cel mai bun fel posibil. Intilnesc prosti si destepti tot timpul (americani, canadieni, romani, etc.). Nu conteaza; toti sint oameni. Incerc sa-i inteleg. Poate pot sa-i si ajut. Sau poate ei pot sa ma ajute. De ce nu? Un tip care a fost scolit MIT si a avut un IQ pina la tavan a avut accident de masina care i-a crapat craniul. Cind si-a revenit din operatii, IQ-ul lui era sub pragul usii. Sper sa nu se intilneasca cu un roman din ala, care o sa-l considere prost, incuiat...

Fiind aici de citiva ani si incercind foarte serios sa ma incadrez in societatea asta, am realizat ca majoritatea oamenilor de alte nationalitati tin unii la altii. Se angajeaza unii pe altii, se ajuta, si nu prea au fumuri. Cei mai multi (88%) romani pe care ii intilnesc aici si sint noi in tara, sint ingimfati, aroganti, si nu le place nimic. Fiindca viata mea se cam desfasoara intr-un dept. de informatica in universitate, intilnesc de multe ori romani studenti. Cind vin prima data aud: "canadienii astia sint prosti de tot", "cursurile astea sint usoare, sa vezi ce studii serioase faceam eu la Timisoara/Bucuresti/Iasi", "studentii astia de masterat/doctorat fac niste comentarii asa de timpite in ore ca ma mir ca au fost acceptati in scoala", samd. De obicei le spun: "e bine ca tu deja te-ai orientat fiind aici numai de 2 saptamini; totusi, e posibil ca te inseli?". Apoi ii intilnesc pe la sfirsitul semestrului si-aud: "aoleu, ca ma omoara astia cu munca!"

Afara de universitate aud des: "Canada e imputita -- oamenii de la birou sint parsivi/nu e istorie/viteza maxima pe autostrada e 100Km/h/oamenii sint prost imbracati/barbatii/femeile sint obeze/fructele nu au nici un gust/benzina e proasta/masinile americane sint de rahat/samd! Europa era faina de tot!" Le spun: "de ce nu te intorci in Germania/Austria/Franta?" "Ah, nu, ca nu e convenient!" Fiindca am fost un an jumate in Austria, intr-un fel ii inteleg. Dar, fiecare tara are avantaje si dezavantaje. Tara perfecta, din pacate, nu exista, pentru ca noi, umanitatea, nu sintem perfecti! Asa ca adapteaza-te, incearca sa fi fericit cu ce ai, sau daca nu poti, atunci "move on". Nu te mai vaita, ca le faci si viata altora mizerabila. Dar, fiind o tara libera, vaita-te daca chiar vrei, dar nu e sanatos.

Get the idea? Mai sint multe exemple, care pur si simplu arata mentalitatea multora care vin din Rom., de curind, sau de mai de mult dar refuza sa invete ceva despre viata din afara Romaniei. Mentalitatea oamenilor a fost unul din motivele mele principale de a fugi din Romania. Si mentalitatea unei natiuni este cel mai greu lucru de schimbat. Daca as deveni miliardar peste noapte nu m-as intoarce in Romania. E ca si cind ai fi avut o mama care te-a batut si nu ti-a dat de mincare cind erai mic, te-a tinut in casa tot timpul si n-ai putut sa te joci afara, nu ti-a dat bani sau jucarii, nu te-a lasat sa te uiti la TV decit putin, si, cel mai important, ti-a promis ca toata viata ta o sa fie asa. Si-apoi, dupa ce ai fugit la o mama vitrega, care nu numai ca te-a lasat sa-ti refaci viata, dar si te-a sprijinit, cu sperante si bucurii, cu sfaturi bune, cu ocazia de a face prieteni care te vor ajuta, te-a iubit, te intreb eu: o iubesti pa mama ta naturala? De ce nu te intorci la ea? Ceea ce se petrece la un nivel micro, de obicei se petrece si la nivel macro. Singele apa nu se face? Poate ca nu. Dar nu o sa refuz o transfuzie daca ma salveaza de pe patul de moarte. In societatiile mai dezvoltate copii abuzati de parinti sint luati si dati la alte familii. Cind imi aduc aminte de unii prieteni de-ai mei si cum erau batuti (cu curele, cu bat, cu de toate) cu vinatai si vai de capul lor, si cum societatea pur si simplu era de acord, ma bucur ca nu mai sint acolo. Da, inteleg ca lucrurile s-au schimbat; poate.

Ca sa inchei, spun ca da, mi-e dor citeodata de blocul unde am crescut, de dealurile pe care m-am jucat, samd. Dar poate ca este numai nostalgie de copilarie. N-am fost in Rom. din '90. Dar inca am citeodata cosmaruri ca m-am dus in vizita si cumva, nu ma mai pot intoarce in Canada. Cind ma trezesc, rasuflu usurat -- "thank God it was just a dream!"
Oh boy, o discutie despre hom - de relu la: 14/12/2003 23:20:55
(la: Viata gay...romaneasca!)
Oh boy, o discutie despre homosexuali intre romani? Si ramine intre limite decente? I'm impressed.

Hai sa-mi dau si eu cu parerea. Crescind macho in Ro, bineinteles am avut parerea omului de rind cind era vorba de "gay." Apoi, cresti in virsta, mai inveti ceva despre oameni, mai cunosti pe careva care dupa vreo doi ani ti se spune ca e homosexual... si-ti schimbi parerea, daca ai un pic de umanitate ramasa in tine. Cel putin mi s-a intimplat mie.

Raspunsul #1 care mi s-a dat de catre romani pe acest subiect a fost: boala. Dictionarul Oxford zice: boala este o stare a corpului, sau a parte din corp, in care functia ei normala este deranjata... in special cind este o schimbare a structurii (translatia mea). Pai cind zicem ca homosexualii (HOS) sint bolnavi, care parte a corpului lor nu mai are functia normala. Se pare ca acea parte a corpului care este cel mai mult sub reflector functioneaza mai tare decit altora multi dintre noi, heterosexualii (HES). Vorbesc de partea de sub centura. Daca vorbim despre partea din craniu, adica creierul, atunci trebuie sa fim atenti. Este problema psihologica, sau neurologica? Acum citiva ani a fost peste tot in "news" ca HOS au un creier diferit decit HES, si se vede concret in CAT scans si MRI. Aha! Deci aici e partea din corp careia i s-a schimbat structura. Apoi intrebarea vine: cu structura asta schimbata, creierul nu mai functioneaza normal? Oxford English Dictionary: normal -- ceea ce se conforma, nu este diferit, de tipul, standardul comun, folosit in mod regular (din nou translatia mea a rubricii 2). Deci in ce fel creierul lor nu functioneaza normal? Am locuit in Toronto vreo 5 ani intr-o zona "trendy" unde tot felul de artisti, avocati, tipi din industria de cinema locuiau. Mergeam cu ciinele la plimbarea zilnica seara in parcul de linga casa, si bineinteles intilnesti pe altii cu ciini. Mai vorbesti, despre ciini si vreme la inceput, si apoi incepi sa-ti faci cunostiinte, si vorbesti despre tot felul de alte chestii. Dupa un timp ti se spune (asa intr-o doara) ca Jack este gay. Are 70 ani, si locuieste cu un tip de 35. Hmmm, ma gindesc, dupa comportarea lui n-as fi ghicit niciodata. Tipul era extra-cult. Foarte tolerant. Niciodata o aluzie la sexualitate. Inalt, sanatos, manierat, "very english." Mie personal mi s-a parut ca creierul lui functiona in toate categoriile care sint importante mai bine decit multi heterosexuali pe care i-am intilnit in viata mea (badarani, idioti, golani care au luat fete tinere cu japca, etc.). Pur si simplu un om decent, din toate punctele de vedere. Ce face el in dormitor? None of my business!

What's my point? Nu cred ca sintem inca echipati cu cunostiintele necesare sa judecam ca altii sint bolnavi si anormali. Poate in vreo 2 sute de ani... cind codul genetic este decodificat.

Celor care spun ca homosexualitatea e impotriva naturii. Pai, din punctul de vedere al "homo sapiens" poate ca e adevarat. Dar ati citit vreodata Biblia Porcului? In care porcul spune ca omul este dusmanul lui ca il taie de craciun? Si ca e impotriva naturii porcului ca omul sa procreeze? Si, deci, din punctul de vedere al porcului (si al altor animale care sint parte din natura noastra) homosexualii sint mai normali, ca nu procreeaza, nu?

Ma abtin sa raspund celor credinciosi. Va respect credinta! Dar nu va e teama ca Biblia a fost scrisa de un rauvoitor? Hei, e posibil. Cind vine Isus, daca zice: "Pai nu v-ati dat seama ca era propaganda diavolului?" No proof whatsoever.

Si-acum sa inchei cu o gluma proasta: de ce ne cheama pe noi "homo sapiens" si nu "hetero sapiens" daca normalul e sa nu fii "gay?"

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