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Destinul femeii - de Prism la: 19/04/2005 02:34:14
(la: FEMEIA intre cariera si cratita; BARBATUL...unde mai are loc...)
"De ce oare femeile moderne trebie sa fie altceva decit au fost programate genetic ? mame, sotii... Nu asta le este destinul ? De ce marea parte a femeilor crescute sub umbrela emanciparii feministe din anii 70-90, alt cataclism social care a lasat in urma si inca lasa, milioane de familii destramate si copii rmasi pe drumuri, incearca sa isi asume roluri de mame si tati in acelasi timp doar din dorinta de fi independente, doar sa constate ca nici independente nu le este bine, indiferent de cit ridicat nivelul lor intelectual sau de cultura. Adevarul este simplu - caracter, bun simt si o intoarcere la valorile familiei traditionale pot face un camin fericit si o familie realizata chiar si intre doi intelectuali care inteleg ca din momentul in care si-au proclamat iubirea in altar, au creat un nucleu pentru care ORICE altceva (familie, interese meschine, dorinte de extravagante sexuale, bani etc) nu sint decit amentintari la pacea familiei. Stimate doamne, de-a lungul ultimilor citeva mii de ani, barbatii au fost cei care au ghidat familia, cei care si-au asuma responsabilitatea mentinerii ei intregi si in pace, si indiferent cit de mare ar fi doarinta dumneavoastra de emancipare nu veti putea intoarce la 180 de grade in 20 de ani o ordine milenara inradacinata adinc in cultura si mesajul genetic al ambelor sexe.Cutia Pandorei nu face decit sa lase la iveala caracterul meschin, incapacitatea de a urmari si mentine binele cuplului si egoismul femeii care printr-un mod sau altul a obtinut cit de cit ceva drepturi si puterea de a distruge.

Sa nu va imaginati ca daca bunicele dumneavoastra nu vorbeau 3 limbi si nu se imbracau la Chanel erau mai inapoiate intelectual sau social ca dumneavoastra. Au fost inzestrate si crescute cu acel bun simt care le-a permis sa-si creasca copii si nepoti frumosi si sanataosi, sa aiba grija de barbatii lor si sa mentina camine fericite si sanatoase, chestii pe care nu multe femei le mai pot face in ziua de azi, indiferent cite PhD-uri au sau cite limbi vorbesc. Au fost crescute de mame care au stiut ce trebiua sa le invete ca sa-si indeplinesca menirea lor de sotii si femei. Because, myladies, at the end of the day, doing a good job and doing it right is the most important thing both women and men can do. We could philosofy as much as you'd like about gender equality, social fulfillment, intellectual challenges and fulfillment but you and I both know that this is b.s. Look around you and see how many neurotic single men and women are roaming around pretending to "date", to be in "search of their soulmate" when nobody knows what that means exactly. Shrinks are just as many as lawyers or plastic surgeons and are making just as much $$$$. This must say something about the state of sanity of the so called intellectualism and intellectuals in the 21 century.... Please don't get me wrong, all I tried to pinpoint here is the use and need of traditional man-woman gender relations in a healthy society. Nothing more, nothing less."
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horia - de carapiscum la: 19/04/2005 10:53:22
(la: ZECE MOTIVE DE A FI FERICIT CA ESTI... AUSTRALIAN)
nu stiu unde in alta parte a pamantului ai mai fi putut reusi in sensul in care zici tu, dar e cert ca cine reuseste intr-un loc il duce capul intr-atat incat sa reuseasca la fel de bine si in alta parte. ce ma nedumereste pe mine este faptul ca ai fost nevoit sa o iei de la zero in 5 ani de zile, ceea ce imi da mult de gandit. si apoi vrei sa spui ca daca te nasteai chinez si emigrai intr-o tara capitalista ca Australia ai fi avut macar curajul de a-ti ponegri tara de origine? intreb si eu asa fiindca n-am auzit la prea multe natii ale pamantului sa se planga atata despre tara lor, asa cum o facem noi cu infocare de multe ori. toti se mandresc cu tara si neamul lor, numai noi ne mancam si ne terfelim pe unde apucam, ca niste fiinte de ultima speta. asta am tinut in mod neaparat sa scot in evidenta.
in ceea ce priveste caritatea de care vorbesti, o zicala romaneasca spune ca "lauda de sine nu miroase-a bine"! comparat cu cat castigi tu si pastrand proportiile de rigoare, se prea poate ca uneori tu sa dai 25 % din cat ai in buzunar, dar altul care are mai putin decat tine poate da mai mult, sa zicem 35 % din "averea" lui. intelegi aluzia: "fiecare se intinde cat ii este plapuma"! sunt oameni care in saracia lor dau mai mult decat se falesc altii. si apoi caritatea nu mai este caritate cand esti scutit de taxe si impozite pt. ea sau cand iti faci reclama pt. lauda oamenilor. nu spun ca nu e bine ce faci, dimpotriva, dar asta nu te arata pe tine un om cu doua capuri pe umeri si nici ca unul cu zece inimi in piept. esti om ca toti oamenii si in plus ESTI ROMAN. nu pot decat sa te laud pt. reusita ta, bravo tie! insa tine minte de unde ai plecat si ca, probabil, ai ajuns unde ai ajuns tocmai pt. ca ai un "background" romanesc. apropo, ti-ai imaginat gresit ca as locui in Romania. sunt plecat de vreo 17 luni si traiesc printre straini de carton si de plastic pt. ca doresc sa fac ceva mai mult atat pt. mine insumi cat si pt. cei ramasi acasa.
P.S. grandomania si mandria exagerata sunt proverbiale pt. multi dintre fostii sau actualii conationali de acelasi sange. cand cineva incepe "sa dea vantul cu var", in sensul ca vorbeste ca sa se arate tuturor cat de important este, pur si simplu ma plesneste rasul. nu de alta dar multi dintre ei sunt plini numai de "fas"-uri, de aere, de vid daca vrei, si incearca sa umple golul din ei insisi cu minciuni sau cu basme in care nici ei insisi nu cred. scuza repetitia. all the best to you. i hope to here about you when you'll be next to Bill Gates.
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true story - good one too - de Horia D la: 20/04/2005 21:06:57
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
At the 1994 annual awards dinner given for Forensic Science, AAFS

President Dr. Don Harper Mills astounded his audience with the
legal complications of a bizarre death.

Here is the story:

On March 23, 1994 the medical examiner viewed the body of Ronald
Opus and concluded that he died from a shotgun wound to the
head. Mr. Opus had jumped from the top of a ten-story building
intending to commit suicide. He left a note to the effect
indicating his despondency.

As he fell past the ninth floor his life was interrupted by a
shotgun blast passing through a window, which killed him
instantly.

Neither the shooter nor the deceased was aware that a safety net
had been installed just below the eighth floor level to protect
some building workers and that Ronald Opus would not have been
able to complete his suicide the way he had planned.

"Ordinarily," Dr Mills continued, "Someone who sets out to commit
suicide and ultimately succeeds, even though the mechanism might
not be what he intended, is still defined as committing
suicide." That Mr. Opus was shot on the way to certain death,
but probably would not have been successful because of the safety
net, caused the medical examiner to feel that he had a homicide on
his hands.

In the room on the ninth floor, where the shotgun blast
emanated, was occupied by an elderly man and his wife. They were
arguing vigorously and he was threatening her with a shotgun. The
man was so upset that when he pulled the trigger he completely missed
his wife and the pellets went through the window striking Mr. Opus.

When one intends to kill subject 'A' but kills subject 'B' in
the attempt, one is guilty of the murder of subject 'B'.

When confronted with the murder charge the old man and his wife
were both adamant and both said that they thought the shotgun
was not loaded. The old man said it was a long-standing habit to
threaten his wife with the unloaded shotgun. He had no intention
to murder her.

Therefore the killing of Mr. Opus appeared to be an accident;
that is, assuming the gun had been accidentally loaded.

The continuing investigation turned up a witness who saw the old
couple's son loading the shotgun about six weeks prior to the
fatal accident.

It transpired that the old lady had cut off her son's financial
support and the son, knowing the propensity of his father to use
the shotgun threateningly, loaded the gun with the expectation
that his father would shoot his mother.

Since the loader of the gun was aware of this, he was guilty of
the murder even though he didn't actually pull the trigger. The
case now becomes one of murder on the part of the son for the
death of Ronald Opus.

Now comes the exquisite twist.

Further investigation revealed that the son was, in fact, Ronald
Opus. He had become increasingly despondent over the failure of
his attempt to engineer his mother's murder. This led him to
jump off the ten-story building on March 23rd, only to be killed
by a shotgun blast passing through the ninth story window. The son
had actually murdered himself so the medical examiner closed the
case as a suicide.

A true story from Associated Press, Reported by Kurt Westervelt
Cum e cu fotografiatul prin alte parti; la noi e jale. - de Dinu Lazar la: 28/04/2005 07:02:03
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
If you are photographing on federal lands, you will want to be familiar with the laws relating to your rights and restrictions. A typical nature photographer does not need a permit to photograph on federal lands. Specifically, a permit is required only for any filming or photography that:

involves the use of a model, set, or prop; or
requires entry into a closed area; or
requires access to the park before or after normal working hours.

A permit is not required for:

A visitor using a camera and/or a recording device for his/her own personal use and within normal visitation areas and hours; or
A commercial photographer not using a prop, model, or set, and staying within normal visitation areas and hours; or
Press coverage of breaking news. This never requires a permit, but is subject to the imposition of restrictions and conditions necessary to protect park resources and public health and safety, and to prevent impairment or derogation of park resources or values.

The full text is available at http://www.blm.gov/nhp/what/commercial/filming/permit.html and at http://www.nps.gov/policy/DOrders/DOrder53.html.

Fees will not be required for still photography as long as the photography takes place where members of the public are generally allowed or where additional administrative costs are not likely. 16 U.S.C. § 4601-6d(b).
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oh yeah? - de Belle la: 04/05/2005 21:19:57
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
uite-aici, special pentru tine, un curs intensiv de limba chineza care l-am publicat mai demult pe un alt sujet de bancuri

Learn Chinese in 5 minutes...(works best if you read them out loud)

1) That's not right ......................... Sum Ting Wong
2) Are you harboring a fugitive?............. Hu Yu Hai Ding
3) See me ASAP................................ Kum Hia Nao
4) Stupid Man ................................ Dum Fuk
5) Small Horse ............................... Tai Ni Po Ni
6) Did you go to the beach? .................. Wai Yu So Tan
7) I bumped into a coffee table .............. Ai Bang Mai Fa Kin Ni
8) I think you need a facelift .............. Chin Tu Fat
9) It's very dark in here .................... Wao So Dim
10) I thought you were on a diet ............. Wai Yu Mun Ching?
11) This is a tow away zone .................. No Pah King
12) Our meeting is scheduled for next week ... Wai Yu Kum Nao
13) Staying out of sight ..................... Lei Ying Lo
14) He's cleaning his automobile ............. Wa Shing Ka
15) Your body odor is offensive .............. Yu Stin Ki Pu
16) Great .................................... Fa Kin Su Pah
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An older, white haired man wa - de Horia D la: 04/05/2005 23:10:21
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
An older, white haired man walked into a jewelry store one Friday
evening with a beautiful young gal at his side. He told the jeweler he
was looking for a special ring for his girlfriend.
The jeweler looked through his stock and brought out a $5,000 ring and
showed it to him. The old man said, "I don't think you understand, I
want something very special."
At that statement, the jeweler went to his special stock and brought
another ring over. "Here's a stunning ring at only $40,000," the jeweler
said. The young lady's eyes sparkled and her whole body trembled
with excitement. The old man seeing this said, "We'll take it."

The jeweler asked how payment would be made and the old man stated,
by check. " I know you need to make sure my check is good, so I'll
write it now and you can call the bank Monday to verify the funds and
I'll pick the ring up Monday afternoon," he said.

Monday morning, a very teed-off jeweler phoned the old man. "There's
no money in that account."
"I know", said the old man, "but can you imagine the weekend I had?"
horica - de Belle la: 05/05/2005 16:32:09
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
mersi de invitation, crezi ca daca ar fi asa simplu n-as veni? mi-as lua
baietii si-am dispare pentru cateva zile

chiar ii ziceam unui coleg mai devreme c-asa-mi vine sa le zic "I'm outta
here, see ya Tuesday"

apropos de cinco de mayo... noi avem mexican food azi la lunch, sper sa
aiba si chicken nu numai beef
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No Spika da Ingles - de Belle la: 06/05/2005 19:41:40
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
A bus stops and two Italian men get on.

They sit down and engage in an animated conversation. The lady sitting
next to them ignores them at first, but her attention is galvanized when
she hears one of them say the following:

"Emma come first. Den I come. Den two asses come together. I come
once-a-more. Two asses, they come together again. I Come again and
pee twice. Then I come one lasta time."

"You foul-mouthed sex obsessed swine," retorted the lady
indignantly. "In this country.......we don't speak aloud in public places
about our sex lives........"

"Hey, coola down lady," said the man. "Who talkin'About a sex?I'm A
justa tellin' my frienda how to spell 'Mississippi'."

I BET YOU GONNA READ THIS AGAIN!!!!!
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Unul care sa ne satisfaca pe toti! (comentariu general) - de Georges Valch la: 09/05/2005 17:53:37
(la: Va place Opera?)
Comentariu de Georges Valch
PROUDFRECKLED : M-am dezobisnuit prietene sa masor dependenta mea de un anumit lucru, prin cantitate. Altfel, judecand uneori dupa bucuria din jur, as fi uneori tentat sa ma cred fericit. In ce priveste cultura… Opera este cu adevarat o arta. Una pe care eu ca profan nu stiu cu ce simt sa o percep. Dar in afara de ea, oamenii incep sa numeasca arta o sumedie de alte lucruri, care n-au legatura cu asta.
Honey in the Sunshine : I will try a plate English here, because how you have allready seen, if i use Romanian, I could make mistakes. So, I’ve never said that culture-people doesn’t need to like the Opera. By contrary: The Opera it’s a great art, and if i feel some shame inside it’s because I can’t get that feeling that you, and the others like you have, and feeling touched by this art. About the others shames of people… Maybe i will make a conference in a day 4 this.
muma padurii : Hei(:)),tichar! liv za kids alaun! Mereu ma repet. Dar de ce nu pot trai la fel cu voi o emotie legata de opera? De ce nu pot sa zic: hfygljpojftyikikuiyi;okopkjylkyhoiytjoiyjityjty iar voi sa intelegeti imediat? Si de ce, mai rau, sa zic asa si voi sa pricepeti : yuguygiuoiuytdoijoiiu ?
Intruder : AIDA’de! Bah, Bacu asta era Dem Radulescu shi avea el un sicret da-l aruncara comunistii la parnaie! Pai normal, fratzie cah le-avea omu cu fugile: daca alerga gaborii dupe iel? Mai traitziar, noi estem intelectualy cu tontzii, care kil da oja mai hare cocoshei ca noi la portofel? Io am platit un poiet da mi-a scris toate forumili astea… shal dracu nu mananka nici cat un pekinez. Hauzi? Da ia zi cand hai fost la Opera, atzi rasbyt prin parku ala? Ca cika shade bulangii, pa toate ariile alea, shi le-a cazut chilotii-n vine da imotzie! Da barosane orcand eshti asteptat la o babardoasa pa doizece.www.com.ro cu mine si cu aialantzii care iai pomenit. Emoticoanili aci cika tre sa le faci dan depshte pa tastatura da tot nu ie ca alea originalily. Iarta-ma cacafeaua nu a fost asa bine hiarta si avea gust the nechezol. Da face astia o iconomie da ma spart. Bafto Delo Intrudare, mai da paci ordacateori nu esti la butik si vrei sa imparti cu cineva un sentiment, care din punct de vedere preponderent, conditional si madagascar… (hai ca plek breh ca intra poietu peste mine… si nu mi-am asigurat spatilu dalok, hauzi?).
Honey in the Sunshine (again) : francofil, zoofil, pedofil sunt subtilitati pe care greu mi le insusesc… Da ce zise fratilu nostru zau ca pricepui. Ideea e ca din nimic nu fac un complex, si ma lasa rece ce asculta fiecare. Uite, as putea sa bag mana’n foc ca tu asculti Prodigy.
same here! - de anisia la: 14/05/2005 20:10:48
(la: Aveti fobii??)
cu cat mai tarziu, cu atat mai bine!
hai sa ne mutam inapoi la trancaneala pana nu suparam gazda ;)
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45 de posturi, 490 de vizitari... - de Georges Valch la: 15/05/2005 06:24:21
(la: Sandra Mae iubeste! Si tace...)
Comentariu de Georges Valch
... 5 zile, nu-i un bilantz rau deloc. Sunt sigur ca s-a perindat si iubitul tau pe aici. Desi, cred ca te gandesti serios daca sa-l mai consideri astfel. Stiu ca iti apar mesajele cu acelasi delay cu care imi apar mie. Noi suntem noi si trebuie sa fim verificati. Ceea ce nu-i chiar un lucru rau: asa cel putin suntem asigurati ca cineva ne citeste. :) Te felicit pentru ceea ce reusesti sa faci aici si daca asta de la care ai pornit aceasta conferinta este dorinta ta cea mai mare, iti doresc din tot sufletul, sa nu se implineasca. Altminteri poate vei fi nevasta unui nesimtit si totul va gravita in jurul unei cratitzi. Look around Sandra. Not everything is flying it's good to eat, but you can catch something better here if you're carefull! Nu trebuie sa cumperi toata vaca ca sa mananci o friptura buna. Think at that! Succes. Treci pe la mine sa bem un ceai. Adica ce am. Ciao.
Cristall - de athos la: 17/05/2005 22:31:46
(la: Exista oameni cu adevarat prosti?)
nu esti singura...
the same thing here
nu prea cred eu in coincidente de genul asta...)
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bancul de dimineata - de Belle la: 19/05/2005 15:37:59
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "3")
A teenage granddaughter comes downstairs for her date with
this see-through blouse on and no bra. Her grandmother just
pitched a fit, telling her not to dare go out like that!

The teenager tells her "Loosen up Grams. These are modern
times. You gotta let your rose buds show!" and out she goes.

The next day the teenager comes down stairs, and the
grandmother is sitting there with no top on. The teenager
wants to die. She explains to her grandmother that she has
friends coming over and that it is just not appropriate...

The grandmother says, "Loosen up, Sweetie. If you can show
off your rose buds, then I can display my hanging baskets.

Happy Gardening.

;-)
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Hellooooo - de fefe la: 20/05/2005 23:51:30
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "3")
anybody here? Hellooooo? Iara m-ati lasat singurica? Uff, ce rau e fara voi!
Avort si legislatie - de ampop la: 23/05/2005 14:12:33
(la: Decretzeii)
Frate Donquijote, sa nu ma crezi ceausist :), dar ca un bun conservator te ajut cu ceva date despre avort:
"As World Eases Restrictions on Abortion, U.S. Becomes More Restrictive, Study Finds
Liberalizations in Abortion Law: Albania, Australia, Benin, Burkina Faso, Cambodia, Chad, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Guinea, Mali, Mexico, Nepal, South Africa, and Switzerland.
Restrictions in Abortion Law: El Salvador, Hungary, Poland, Russian Federation, and the United States" si
"Benin, Burkina Faso, Chad, Guinea and Mali have gone from being among the countries with the most restrictive abortion laws to recognizing such grounds for abortion as saving a woman’s life and protecting her health in cases of rape, incest, and fetal impairment.".
Aplicarea decretului ceausist si de fapt scopul acestuia (crearea de vite de munca pentru "inaintarea spre societatea socialista multilateral dezvoltata" a lui Ceasca) a fost aberanta. Nu s-a pus problema considerentelor etice, morale si religioase intru salvarea vietii umane ci doar robi pe plantatia lui Pingelica & Co.


Mario
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banc - de Horia D la: 24/05/2005 21:44:13
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "3")
She was wearing a loose-fitting, pink dress - sleeveless with straps.

He was wearing his usual jeans and T-shirt. As they walked through the
ape exhibit, they passed in front of a large, silverback gorilla.

Noticing the wife, the gorilla went crazy. he jumped on the bars, and
holding on with one hand (and 2 feet), he grunted and pounded his chest with his free hand.

He was obviously excited at the pretty lady in the pink dress.

The husband, noticing the excitement, thought this was funny. He
suggested that his wife tease the poor fellow some more by puckering her lips and wiggling her bottom.

She played along and the gorilla got even more excited making noises
that would wake the dead. Then the husband suggested that she let one of her straps fall to show a little more skin. She did, and the gorilla
was about to tear the bars down.

"Now show your thighs and sort of fan your dress at him", he said.

This drove the gorilla absolutely crazy, and he started doing flips.

Then the husband grabbed his wife, ripped open the door to the cage,
flung her in with the gorilla and slammed the cage door shut.

"Now, tell him you have a headache."
yippieeeeeee - de Belle la: 24/05/2005 22:41:08
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "3")
time to gooooooooooo
seara placuta in continuare, I'm outta here!
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abuz sexual, homosexualitate, boala - de Cassandra la: 25/05/2005 14:54:31
(la: Oamenii devin homosexuali/lesbiene, sau se nasc asa ?)
Este homosexualitatea o boala si ca atare trebuie aplicate tratamente pentru "vindecarea" ei?

Revista Americana de Psihiatrie a publicat in 1999 un articol: “Position statement on psychiatric treatment and sexual orientation. Am J Psychiatry 1999; 156:1131” , (articol aprobat de Board of Trustees of the American Psychiatric Association ) in care atrage atentia profesionalilor din sectorul sanatatii mintale asupra faptului ca nu exista evidenta stiintifica care sa sprijine eficienta tratamentelor pentru schimbarea orientarii sexuale. Articolul se adreseaza temei homosexualitatii si adopta o pozitie clara “impotriva discriminarii, prejudecatilor, si tratamentelor ne etice” (p. 1131)

In ceea ce priveste abuzul sexual la minori (baieti), este o tema extrem de complexa. Abuzul poate fi exercitat nu numai de barbati dar si de femei (de multe ori de propria mama) si ceea ce lasa in urma este in primul rind o trauma psihica pentru cel abuzat, care il va urmari toata viata. Homosexualitatea nu este principala preocupare la aceste persoane ci faptul ca sufera de confuzie in privinta propriei identitati sexuale. Eu cred ca in primul rind trebuie ajutati sa-si depaseasca aceasta confuzie si sa-si cunoasca si accepte identitatea sexuala oricare ar fi ea. Un fapt este cert – nu toti abuzatii sexual devin homosexuali. Iar daca terapistii s-ar incapatina doar sa-i vindece de homosexualitate cind de fapt atentia lor ar trebui indreptata spre multe alte aspecte cum sint increderea de sine, increderea in ceilalti, eliminarea sentimentului de vinovatie, agresivitatii etc, ce solutie ar mai avea aceste victime?
Male survivor este o organizatie pentru baietii si barbatii abuzati sexual. http://www.malesurvivor.org/index.htm Din aceasta pagina citez:

Ten Facts about Sexual Abuse of Boys and its Aftermath

6. Common symptoms for sexually abused men include: guilt, anxiety, depression, interpersonal isolation, shame, low self-esteem, self-destructive behavior, post-traumatic stress reactions, poor body imagery, sleep disturbance, nightmares, anorexia or bulimia, relational and/or sexual dysfunction, and compulsive behavior like alcoholism, drug addiction, gambling, overeating, overspending, and sexual obsession or compulsion.

8. There is no compelling evidence that sexual abuse fundamentally changes a boy's sexual orientation, but it may lead to confusion about sexual identity and is likely to affect how he relates in intimate situations

Si mai citez din aceeasi pagina, sint cuvintele unui membru al organizatiei, victima abuzului sexual:

“SA does not create gay people - if that were true then the majority of SA boys or girls would grow up gay.
I think what is more important to focus on is what we intend to do with whatever our orientation is. The important thing is to accept ourselves just as we are and learn to love the person that is deep inside of us. And, if we are lucky at sometime in life, we will find someone else who loves us unconditionally - be that male, female, gay, straight, etc.
There are no simple answers in life and, as I said in my previous post, life is FULL of shades of grey.”


Si iata ce raspund participantii (toti sint victime ale abuzului sexual) forumului din pagina respectiva cind li s-a cerut sa scrie o lista de minciuni in legatura cu conditia lor:

Minciuni:
“I must be gay because I liked it & went back.

I must be gay because I looked for gay sex on my own afterward.

Don't even think of having a girlfriend, girls wont like you. They will smell your shame like dog sh*t.
Uncle F loved me.
I don't belong here. (everywhere, anywhere: I feel this at home, at friend's houses, in school, at work, while travelling of living abroad.)
I have to become a CONTROL freak to keep from being vulnerable.

I held onto these lies until three four years ago (age 31 then). My wife came up with the name "the wall" for the prison I kept my heart in. It blew my mind away how
much the abuse & the lies shaped my life. It tainted every decision I made in my life, it probably still does to a degree.

~George~”



“THIS IS A LIE:
I am dumb.
I am stupid.
I am an idiot.
I have shit for brains.
I am booksmart but not smart.
I have no common sense.
I can't think.

THIS IS A LIE:
Mothers don't sexually abuse.

THIS IS A LIE:
My body responded, I must have enjoyed it.

THIS IS A LIE:
I must be a sissy, because this only happens to sissies and girls.

This is a lie:
I am gay

This is a lie:
I should cease to exist

This is a lie:
I cannot face this.

This is a lie:
Therapy will kill me.

This is a lie:
I cannot trust

This is a lie:
I am inconsequential

This is a lie:
I am alone in this, no one could possibly understand what I've been through.

This is a lie:
I am an embarrassment to the family

This is a lie:
Death is better than life”


Ce remarc este ca aceste persoane se infrunta mai degraba cu o serie de minciuni induse de societate si de fapt asta este "boala" de care sufera si de care au nevoie sa se vindece. Iar cine insista pe tema homosexualitatii ca boala, perversiune, tara sociala etc. nu face decit sa contribuie la trauma acestor persoane.
Why I love being a women - de Belle la: 26/05/2005 21:35:17
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "3")

BEHIND EVERY
SUCCESSFUL WOMAN
IS HERSELF


AWOMAN IS LIKE A TEA BAG...
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW STRONG
SHE IS UNTIL YOU PUT HER
IN HOT WATER


IHAVE YET TO HEAR A MAN
ASK FOR ADVICE ON HOW
TO COMBINE MARRIAGE
AND A CAREER


COFFEE, CHOCOLATE, MEN.
SOME THINGS ARE JUST
BETTER RICH


I'M OUT OF ESTROGEN
And I HAVE A GUN


WARNING: I HAVE AN ATTITUDE
AND I KNOW HOW
TO USE IT


OF COURSE I DON'T LOOK BUSY...
I DID IT RIGHT
THE FIRST TIME


DO NOT START WITH ME.
YOU WILL NOT WIN

ALL STRESSED OUT
AND NO ONE
TO CHOKE
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Hehe - de fefe la: 26/05/2005 22:05:42
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "3")
Eu mi-as face un T-Shirt cu zicala aia, si m-as imbraca cu ea on Casual Friday.

Auzi, mai e una mortala de care am ris si eu si dnl. fefe de ne-am prapadit:

I have no idea why I work here



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