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1. If the Gods Had Meant Us t - de ninel la: 11/11/2003 12:49:54
(la: Care sunt ultimele 5 carti pe care le-ati citit?)
1. If the Gods Had Meant Us to Vote, They'd Have Given Us Candidates by Jim Hightower (.../0060932090) - inca neterminata
2. The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Truth About Corporate Cons, Globalization and High-Finance Fraudsters by Greg Palast (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452283914)
3. The Journey of Man : A Genetic Odyssey by Spencer Wells (.../0812971469)
4. The Seven Daughters of Eve by Bryan Sykes (.../0393323145)
5. Man Who Loved Only Numbers: The Story of Paul Erdos & the Search for Mathematical Truth by Paul Hoffman (.../0786884061)

Ultima carte citita de mine in limba romana cred ca a fost Maitreyi a lui Eliade, iar in franceza Fleurs du Mal a lui Beaudelaire (partial), amandoua acum mai bine de opt ani.
If - de LMMagain la: 05/12/2003 09:29:19
(la: Ce este un gentleman? (o parere victoriana))
Foarte interesanta tema...
Am citit la repezeala si desi a inceput bine (`´one who does not inflict pain``)nu stiu daca mi-as dori la jumatatea mea atita perfectiune....:)) Cred ca viata - a mea cel putin -ar fi foarte plictisitoare linga un gentleman cu calitatile victoriene...In secolul nostru poate asa un rar(If) speci-man s-ar numi si altfel decit gentleman...:)
If it be your will - de Daniel Racovitan la: 28/11/2004 19:29:12
(la: Ce melodie iubiti acum?)
""son histoire...", de alexis hk."

Update: "If it be your will" de Leonard Cohen :)

___________________________________________________
"aceste cuvinte ne doare" (sic)
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You know you're a "redneck" if..... - de Horia D la: 09/08/2005 16:56:12
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "4")
Your standard of living improves when you go camping.
Your prenuptial agreement mentions chickens.
You have jacked up your home to look for a dog.
You have a relative living in your garage.
Your neighbor has ever asked to borrow a quart of beer.
There is a belch on your answering machine greeting.
You have rebuilt a carburetor while sitting on the commode.
None of the tires on your van are the same size.
Your town put the new garbage truck in the Christmas parade.
Your local beauty salon also fixes cars.
Your doghouse and your living room have the same shag carpet.
You've ever slow danced in the Waffle House.
Starting your car involves popping the hood.
Your garbage man is confused about what goes and what stays.
You whistle at women in church.
You've been in a fistfight at a yard sale.
You carry a fly swatter in the front seat of the car so you can reach the kids in the backseat.
If you've ever fixed a broken coil primary wire on a car with a safety pin off your date's bra strap, and didn't think the date was unusual.
If you've got a matching set of salad bowls that all say "cool whip" on them.
If you take the Christmas lights on the front porch down in November, and only long enough to get them working again.
You've ever used duct tape to repair dental work.
You've unstopped a sink with a shotgun.
Your will states your wife can't touch your money 'til she's fourteen.
You have to pass through a metal detector to get into a family reunion.
Your coffee table is also a cooler!
Your mailing address includes the word "holler".
The first time you ever saw your wife in lingerie, you had to pay a cover charge.
You've sold a car to settle a bar tab.
The best sofa you ever had came out of a Chevrolet.
You've ever used your bathtub as a punch bowl.
If you have ever been accused of lying through your tooth.
If you have ever used a barstool as a walker.
You hold the hood of your car with your head while you work on it.
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If now, in the middle of my - de Cassandra la: 14/10/2006 18:10:12
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
If now, in the middle of my life, I think
Of death, I do so out of confidence
That in the middle of death I will suddently think
Of life, with the same calming nostalgia
And with the distant gaze of people
Who know their prophecies come true.

Yehuda Amichai

in sfarsit, mai dau si de oam - de daisy la: 12/09/2003 06:47:38
(la: Cumpar timp...platesc oricit...)
in sfarsit, mai dau si de oameni care inteleg ca nu trebuie sa privim capatul tunelului ci fiecare bucatica, asa cum vine. Sorry ca impose dar sunt uimita de faptul ca site-ul e plin de tristete. Inteleg ca unul din scopurile acestui site este sa vedem ce mai fac si altii, cu tristetile si bucuriile lor dar perhaps este durerea ce ne inconjoara si nu ne lasa sa visam...

Anyway, nu sunt optimista din fire dar vad ca daca iau lucrurile asa cum sunt si nu le mai disec atata totul merge bine. Ma rog, am avut si ani foarte prosti dar am luat-o din loc fara sa ma mai gandesc la toate cele. Cred ca ce ne preocupa pe toti este "what if..." sau mai bine zis "drobul de sare"....

De aceea moto-ul meu este "Bucurati-va de tot ce va inconjoara" caci altfel ne ducem pe pustii...

PS sper ca makes sense.....
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"cine n-are nici un dor, lele, traieste pe lume usor, ba" - de (anonim) la: 18/09/2003 20:59:34
(la: Prejudecata despre cuvantul "dor")
De multe ori am fost intrebat if I miss my country, sau if I long for my friends, sau if I wish to go back. Raspunsul meu a fost intotdeauna No. Si totusi, si atunci si intotdeauna mi-a fost dor de tara unde m-am nascut, de prieteni.
Profesorii nostri se referau la folosinta cuvintul “dor” in folclorul si literatura romana. Gasiti un singur cuvint in alt grai, care sa-l inlocuiasca, spre satisfactia tuturor, in totalitatea sensurile intilnite la noi.

Dorul, ca si iubirea sint greu de definit. De mii de ani poeti si scriitori incearca s-o faca, spre delectarea noastra.
“Mi-a plecat mindra de luni, mi-a lasat dorul prin pruni si dragostea prin aluni.”

Iata cum am distrus toata “poezia” mesajului meu anterior, …da, cel cu fasolea.
Any comments? He, he, Athos.. - de JCC la: 13/10/2003 08:08:26
(la: De ce nu 120 de ani??? sau sa imbatranim intinerind?,, :-)))
If I have any comments, Athos? YEEES... YEEES...
I would say : better a good long and full life (healthy and vitality) than a short full life without breath and health..

(mai bine o viata lunga buna si plina (cu vitalitate si in buna sanatate) decât o viata scurta si plina (fara suflu, fara sanatate)

ce zici???
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Luciana Stoicescu-Vaughan - de sanjuro la: 16/10/2003 01:31:53
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
Nowadays


I learned not to cry
Unless I can't hold it.
The people around
Are running away
Saying: "Forget it!"

"How are you doing?"
"Thanks, I'm doing fine"
It does not matter if
You're sad or suffer
No one will give a dime.

They want to see success,
Money, fame and power.
You have to hide the truth
That your life is sour.

Depression is a shame,
Melancholy - a stigma -
Who wants to be around
Someone who lack charisma?

Go party, spend some money,
Show that you have some fun,
Smile with or without reason (!)
Nobody then will run.
O nuvela si trei poezii - de gabi la: 17/10/2003 03:19:42
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Canuta om sucit
Glossa ...(apropo: http://irodalom.elender.hu/roman/emin18.htm)!!
Luceafarul
If - R. Kippling

si cativa Psalmi
Da’ n-am stiut ca-i chiar atat de rea situatia... - de Alice la: 17/10/2003 11:09:07
(la: Zece moduri in care poti distruge un computer :))
Ce-am retinut eu de-aici (ca printre altele..:)): "if you leave your laptop unattended in Nairobi, leave a banana on top of it as a protection offering.":)

PS. Merci ca te-ai intors! S-"aburise" Luneta ...:)

completare - de gabi la: 20/10/2003 18:15:31
(la: Castigati 1 milion de euro. Ce veti alege: Romania sau occident?)
citindu-l pe sergiu, m-am gandit sa precizez ca am trait ani buni (la propriu si la figurat) atat in Europa de Vest cat si in SUA, spre deosebire de Romania, unde material am dus-o ...nu, cuvantul mai potrivit ar fi: am tarat-o, la limita de jos a decentei, financiar si uneori spiritual. Dar anii tineretei au totusi un farmec aparte, chiar si-n Bangladesh sau Sahel, presupun...si-ai vrea sa-i faci mai buni pentru altii, daca se poate (if it came to "giving back"). Iar acesti altii pentru mine nu pot fi in primul rand decat romanii din Romania.
Asta e, ce sa fac! (:
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Despre hoti si hotie - de (anonim) la: 27/10/2003 05:48:27
(la: Hotia e de pret, la romani (din Evenimentul Zilei))
Am raspuns mai inainte de ce nu as trai in Romania daca as cistiga 1 million la loterie. Exact din cauza asta: pt. ca eu nu fur si nu as fi vazuta bine de hoti. Din cauza asta romanii nu sint vazuti bine in strainatate: pt. hotiile pe care le fac pe unde se duc. Shame on you guys if you condone theaft. "Se descurca" este egal cu hotie!!!!
if that's how you want to play, so be it! - de relu la: 29/10/2003 18:53:19
(la: o poveste...)
Pe nava:

Gigel si Maria se gasesc inconjurati de citiva barbati fiorosi. Se retrag inspre zid... 'Ce vreti? Bani? Va dam bani...'
'Nu. Sintem fosti detinuti de la Jilava. O sa va facem probe anale. Nu doare. Unora chiar le plac. Si n-o sa va amintiti nimic... aparatul nostru de sters memoria functioneaza cam 95%, mai rau decit aparatul de sters la fund. Aplecati-va pe masa aceasta, si va rog sa cooperati, ca altfel cam doare...'
ptr. Zamolxe - de SB_one la: 12/11/2003 15:16:14
(la: Irak)
Ai vorbit ca un tarabostes; nu-mi ramine decit sa adaug cele de mai jos.
SB

> This will get you fired up!
>
>
>
> I wonder how many people are aware of this information. Love him or
> loath him, he nailed this one right on the head
>
> By Rush Limbaugh:
>
> I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the
> September 11 casualty and those who die serving the country in Uniform
> are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you
> just don't criticize anything having to do with September 11.
>
> Well, I just can't let the numbers pass by because it says something
> really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of this country.
>
> If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you're going to
> get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of
> $250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.
>
> If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed In
> action, the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half
> of which is taxable. Next, you get $1,750 for burial costs. If you are
> the surviving spouse, you get $833 a month until you remarry.
>
> And there's a payment of $211 per month for each child under 18. When
> the child hits 18, those payments come to a screeching halt.
>
> Keep in mind that some of the people who are getting an average of
> $1.185 million up to $4.7 million are complaining that it's not enough.
> Their deaths were tragic, but for most, they were simply in the wrong
> place at the wrong time. Soldiers put themselves in harms way FOR ALL
> OF US, and they and their families know the dangers.
>
> We also learned over the weekend that some of the victims from the
> Oklahoma City bombing have started an organization asking for the same
> deal that the September 11 families are getting. In addition to that,
> some of the families of those bombed in the embassies are now asking for
> compensation as well.
>
> You see where this is going, don't you? Folks, this is part and parcel
> of over 50 years of entitlement politics in this country. It's just
> really sad.
>
> Every time a pay raise comes up for the military, they usually receive
> next to nothing of a raise. Now the green machine is in combat in the
> Middle East while their families have to survive on food stamps and live
> in low-rent housing. Make sense?
>
> However, our own U.S. Congress just voted themselves a raise, and many
> of you don't know that they only have to be in Congress one time to
> receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month, and most are now
> equal to being millionaires plus. They also do not receive Social
> Security on retirement because they didn't have to pay into the system.
>
> If some of the military people stay in for 20 years and get out as an
> E-7, you may receive a pension of $1,000 per month, and the very people
> who placed you in harm's way receive a pension of $15,000 per month. I
> would like to see our elected officials pick up a weapon and join ranks
> before they start cutting out benefits and lowering pay for our sons and
> daughters who are now fighting.
>
> "When do we finally do something about this?" If this doesn't seem fair
> to you, it is time to forward this to as many people as you can.
>
> If your interested there is more............
>
> This must be a campaign issue in 2004. Keep it going. SOCIAL SECURITY:
> (This is worth the read. It's short and to the point.)
>
> Perhaps we are asking the wrong questions during election years. Our
> Senators and Congressmen do not pay into Social Security. Many years
> ago they voted in their own benefit plan. In more recent years, no
> congressperson has felt the need to change it. For all practical
> purposes their plan works like this:
>
> When they retire, they continue to draw the same pay until they die,
> except it may increase from time to time for cost of living adjustments.
> For example, former Senator Byrd and Congressman White and their wives
> may expect to draw $7,800,000 - that's Seven Million, Eight Hundred
> Thousand), with their wives drawing $275,000.00 during the last years of
> their lives. This is calculated on an average life span for each.
>
> Their cost for this excellent plan is $00.00. These little perks they
> voted for themselves is free to them. You and I pick up the tab for
> this plan. The funds for this fine retirement plan come directly from
> the General Fund--our tax dollars at work! From our own Social Security
> Plan, which you and I pay (or have paid) into --every payday until we
> retire (which amount is matched by our employer) --we can expect to get
> an average $1,000 per month after retirement. Or, in other words, we
> would have to collect our average of $1,000 monthly benefits for 68
> years and one month to equal Senator Bill Bradley's benefits!
>
> Social Security could be very good if only one small change were made.
> And that change would be to jerk the Golden Fleece Retirement Plan from
> under the Senators and Congressmen. Put them into the Social Security
> plan with the rest of us and then watch how fast they would fix it.
>
> If enough people receive this, maybe a seed of awareness will be planted
> and maybe good changes will evolve. WE, each one of us... can make a
> difference..
>
>
.
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Mea culpa! - de Dinu Lazar la: 14/11/2003 05:51:03
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Pe omu` respectiv il cheama Spencer Tunick. Se gasesc pe web multe poze realizate de el.

Coincidenta este ca domnia sa a fost motivul unui schimb de replici in lista de discutii Fotopro, intre mine si un fotograf american, mai putin prezent pe net - pentru ca uraste computerul - si anume Bruce Esbin.

Intii imi scrie Bruce:

===========================

Spencer Tunick, he is the DUDE!!! When someone is able to get 450
naked women to pose for them in Grand Central Station in NYC, then they are the greatest photographer in the world. Until someone is
able to do this on the Moon then his title will remain.

===========================================

La care eu raspund:

> I am very curious to see what pictures it have made...
>
> His site is ... I have not words... go here:
> http://www.spencertunick.com/individuals.html
>
> It is an idiot... This pictures are made by a groggy man... I cannot
> believe.

> Best regards,
>
> Dinu
=============================================
La care Bruce:

Though I was making a joke about Tunick being the "world's greatest
photographer". All joking aside however I do think he is a great
photographer, and I'll tell you why. Photography as you know is just a
tool that allows people to see many different things in a two
dimensional world, a world that despite being two dimensional still
enables us to experience the image on a high information level.

For me the genius of what Tunick does is showing the Homo-Sapien
species as group of animals without the usual protective barrier of
clothing in different and varied environments. Very interesting
environments at least for me. Buenos Aires, New York City, Antarctica,
Vienna, St. Petersburg, etc. all juxtaposed with a single naked human
form or in huge naked groups. It is strangely interesting because it is
something we would never see otherwise especially the groups. In that
sense it is art because it allows us to see something very unique and
thought provoking on the nature of being human.

Some people could say anyone with a camera could take a picture of a
naked person outdoors, and they would be right, however let them try
and go through the effort to organize the large groups of people and
get the permission of international city governments as Tunick
succeeded in doing. So for me Tunick is far from being an "idiot" or a
"groggy man". For me he is a genuine artist with a nice sense of humor who is exploring the human form in an interesting way through the use of photography.
==========================================

Replica mea este:

> All that you write here is a good sense and true. Seeing so, it is OK.
>
> But... the light, the composition, the color, the perspective, the art?
>
> I need only a idea, only a concept? I do not need any professional sense of the light?
>
> I believe that you understand me...
>
> When I see a picture, I give in my mind notes for technique, art (
> composition) and idea.
>
> 0+0+10/3=3,3...

=======================================
Si Bruce continua:

Sometimes the technique is secondary to the concept, sometimes the technique is the concept. What I've found refreshing with Tunick's photography is his relative lack of obvious technique, the almost snapshot like quality of his pictures, as if he just showed up accidently with a Ricoh G1 loaded with color negative film and just snapped a shot of this strangeness before him.
This is what gives it power, the utter banality of technique.

============================================================

Asa ca si intre profesionisti parerile sunt impartite.
Succesul comercial al lui Tunick este insa imens.
Mie personal nu imi place ce face. Asta nu conteaza desigur.

Am vrut sa vedeti insa dincolo de usile inchise cam cum gindesc fotografii...sau unii dintre ei.

Dupa mine, talent este sa iei o cizma si sa o fotografiezi, si sa para mai atragatoare si mai sexy decit o playmate, nu sa umpli o gara cu o suta de femei goale si sa faci glamour.
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Deci... - de LMMagain la: 25/11/2003 13:50:49
(la: Actori preferati)
Am sa unesc doua teme, Filme si Actori preferati, pe care ii consider deosebiti si am sa numesc si eu citiva.
Unii dintre ei, ca de cite ori vad un film bun am cel putin un actor preferat...;)
Colin Firth in Mindrie si Prejudecata... Fara comentarii.
Il iubesc....:)
Brad Pitt in ´´Meet Joe Black´´, daca a aparut deja in romineste nu ii stiu traducerea sau numele cu care ruleaza. De obicei nu imi pasa prea mult de Brad Pitt dar banuiesc ca a facut un rol minunat de vreme ce m-a facut sa ma gindesc cu fascinatie la ceea ce a intruchipat...Nu vreau sa dau detalii prea multe...pentru cei care nu au vazut filmul inca.
Kevin Kline in ´´Life as a house´´, la fel nu stiu sub ce nume a rulat pe la voi.Minunat film.
Si Leonardo di Cprio in ´´Catch me if you can´´.
Si, last but not least, Russel Crowe in ´´A beautiful mind´´


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Bene sh-atata ...oricum ...mult! - de Alice la: 01/12/2003 13:46:48
(la: Cohen)
D-aia uite:

"What is a saint? A saint is someone who has achieved a remote human possibility. It is impossible to say what that possibility is. I think it has something to do with the energy of love. Contact with this energy results in the exercise of a kind of balance in the chaos of existence. A saint does not dissolve the chaos; if he did the world would have changed long ago. I do not think that a saint dissolves the chaos even for himself, for there is something arrogant and warlike in the notion of a man setting the universe in order. It is a kind of balance that is his glory. He rides the drifts like an escaped ski. His course is the caress of the hill. His track is a drawing of the snow in a moment of its particular arrangement with wind and rock. Something in him so loves the world that he gives himself to the laws of gravity and chance. Far from flying with the angels, he traces with the fidelity of a seismograph needle the state of the solid bloody landscape. His house is dangerous and finite, but he is at home in the world. He can love the shape of human beings, the fine and twisted shapes of the heart. It is good to have among us such men, such balancing monsters of love."
- L. Cohen, Beautiful Losers

Ai citit "The Favorite"?
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Andrei - de LMMagain la: 08/12/2003 08:40:29
(la: Ce este un gentleman? (o parere victoriana))
Desi este foarte frumos citatul ales de tine (si convingator)eu cind am spus ce am spus m-am referit strict la ce am citit sub linkul afisat de Daniel . Un mic fragment:
´´He (the gentleman) has too much good sense to be affronted at insults, he is too well employed to remember injuries, and too indolent to bear malice. He is patient, forbearing, and resigned, on philosophical principles; he submits to pain, because it is inevitable, to bereavement, because it is irreparable, and to death, because it is his destiny. If he engages in controversy of any kind, his disciplined intellect preserves him from the blunder. [From The Idea of a University, 1852]

Probabil citeva cuvinte mi-au influentat impresia generala, mai degraba barbat cu caracter slab decit un gentleman....Si acelea sint: inevitable,resigned, irreparable, destiny.......
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Anagramaticalitati... - de LMMagain la: 16/12/2003 10:25:25
(la: Cine ar trebui sa il judece pe Saddam Hussein?)
Fie vorba intre noi puteai sa iti alegi un nume mai usor de redat, ca mi s-a cam impleticit limba la transcris...:)
Dar trecind la teme serioase, trebuie sa recunosc ca de la primul tau mesaj am gindit``uite ca mai este unul care gindeste si (simte) ca mine!!``
Tu ai fost mai repede ca mine...
Am sa redau un fragment citit azi in stiri:

Cardinal Says U.S. Treated Saddam 'Like a Cow'

Cardinal Renato Martino, head of the Vatican's Justice and Peace department and a former papal envoy to the United Nations (news - web sites), told a news conference it would be "illusory" to think the arrest of the former Iraqi president would heal all the damage caused by a war which the Holy See opposed.
"I felt pity to see this man destroyed, (the military) looking at his teeth as if he were a cow. They could have spared us these pictures," he said.
"Seeing him like this, a man in his tragedy, despite all the heavy blame he bears, I had a sense of compassion for him," he said in answer to questions about Saddam's arrest.´´

Stiu ca sint multe de spus si noi sintem numai spectatori la ce se intimpla pe scena politica a lumii...Numai poporul Irakian are dreptul de a acuza...,dar mie mi s-a umplut sufletul de mila si jena, tot ce am vazut a fost un om batrin, lovit si durut pentru ca a cazut de la mare inaltime si pentru ca oricit de criminali au fost fiii lui, el este numai un tata care pe deasupra i-a mai pierdut si pe ei...Si daca va mai spun ca asemanator am simtit cind l-am vazut pe Ceausescu (cine isi mai aduce aminte) batrin si speriat, dupa ce l-au prins, ...... coborind din elicopter sau avion , nu mai retin...Desi l-am urit pentru viata oferita si mie in tara in care mi-am petrecut atita tinerete.



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