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Satan?Demons+Hell?666?lake of fire? - de Little Eagle la: 24/03/2004 15:21:18
(la: SUFLETUL OMULUI - Ce-i aia?...)
Draga medina,
ma asteptam ca cineva sa vina cu astfel de raspuns,era inevitabil!Este ceva natural sa gindesti asa cind viata o traiesti in total dualism....bine-rau,urit-frumos,curat-murdar,onest-mincinos,cald-rece etc etc.
Marele intelept Dalai Lama a spus cindva:"Problema cea mare prin care trece omenirea este ca vede totul ori in alb ori in negru,nu realizeaza ca exista si un gri la mijloc."Poate ai dori sa-l critici si pe el?Eu cred ca are dreptate.
De ce am spus ca doar Dumnezeu exista?De ce nu am spus ca implicit ar trebui sa fie si ...opusul Lui?
Omenirea si religiile au trebuit sa inventeze un opus al binelui pt. a justifica ororile lumii in orice forme ale ei si atunci a aparut Mr. Satan,ori Lucifer ori Dracul ori Schamael,si mitul raului s-a creat,vinovatul a fost gasit si f. usor acum s-au "descoperit" vinovati eretici si vrajitoare in Salem buni de pus la prajeala ori torturi,si preoti exorcisti etc. etc.
In dualismul vietii trebuie,nu sa existe si Necuratu",dar am o surpriza pt. tine:
Ce-ai zice de faptul ca imi mentin teoria mea si spun ca Satan NU exista nici ca ...forma si nici ca spirit?
Ca de fapt doar Dumnezeu exista si am sa vin si cu argumente pt. a-mi apara teoria,desigur ca din nou vor stirni discutii si iar voi fi pus la zid dar sint obisnuit cu astea,numai sa nu ma luati la pietre.
In primul rind,esti de acord ca toata creatia apartine Lui Dumnezeu pt. ca El insusi este creatia toata?
Daca da atunci NU IL limita si-l plasa doar de o parte a ei adica ceea ce consideri tu ca este virtuos si moral si etic este Dumnezeu si ce-i urit si meschin si vulgar este...Diavolul!Dintr-o data Il minimalizezi ca existenta pt. ca in adevar Dumnezeu este dincolo de dualismul vietii.
Vezi totul subiectiv si ca tine din pacate marea majoritate.Daca admiri un trandafir si te incinta culoarea petalelor si parfumul lui,afla ca Dumnezeu NU e doar in acele petale dar si in spinii lui.
Ori indragesti un animal si ai grija de el esti atasata de el,de ce te uiti atunci cu scirba la un sobolan?si el este parte din aceiasi creatie si chiar si in el exista un suflet si este expresia vietii Lui Dumnezeu prin el.
De ce spun ca doar Dumnezeu exista?Pt. ca exista NUMAI BINE in creatie dar in diverse GRADE.Aici este problema din care se nasc contradictiile umane!
Cel mai mic grad de BINE(daca am gindi intre1-10)este ceea ce am numi "RAUL''.,si STIU CA ESTE EXTREM DE GREU DE ACCEPTAT ca de ex. si un mare
criminal in fapt nu este rau ci are in el si un % de bine care de fapt e la baza existentei lui....parca vad deja o piatra aruncata spre mine acum!
E greu de acceptat ca oameni ca Hitler,Stalin,Ceausescu,Mao,Bush,in esenta sufletului lor au fost sau sint buni,dar in cel mai mic grad posibil.
Am mai scris ca nu poti intelege creatia si pe Dumnezeu fara a nu crede in conceptul de reincarnare si Karma,stau la baza ei,Buddha a numit-o "roata vietii eterne"de unde si simbolul Buddhist ca religie si credinta.
Oare chiar crezi ca Buddha a nascocit adevarul din senin? Ori hai sa fim si mai ortodocsi,crezi ca Jesus a rostit invataturile Lui aiurea ca si cum le-ar fi visat si apoi spus discipolilor Lui basme sa-i puna la culcare?
Acesti avatari au avut in ei ADEVARUL si l-au si rostit pina in ultima clipa.
"Iarta-i Domne caci nu stiu ce fac",Jesus a iertat in stinga si dreapta chiar pe proprii LUi ucigasi,pt. ca a stiut ca NU sint RAI si nici posedati de vreun Satan!
Chiar si pe Judas stiind ca el l-a tradat!Oare nu am invatat inca nimic de la Dumnezeu nici pina in ziua de azi?Daca INSUSI DUMNEZEU(Caci Jesus a fost Dumnezeu in carne si oase nu fiul Lui!)iarta si vede in jurul Lui numai BINELE
ce te face sa reinventezi un personaj ca Lucifer ce nu exista de fel?
Pt. ca vezi TOTUL ori in ALB ori in NEGRU!!!!Dalai Lama are dreptate.
A te purifica in suflet si ajunge treptat de la gradul de 1 ca bine la 10 iti trebuie sute de mii de vieti prin care ai trecut deja si in functie de nivelul la care ai ajuns in cea prezenta de rafinare spirituala depinde prin cite vei mai avea de trecut.NU uita ca si Jesus a vorbit la vremea LUi despre reincarnare!
Si clericul din pacate(pt. ei si ...eforturile lor de a ascunde acest adevar,din punctul lor de vedere!)a incercat sa schimbe ici si colo pasaje din noul testament,dar ar fi insemnat sa fi ramas doar citeva pagini despre Jesus daca cenzurau totul!
Biserica trebuia sa scoata din Biblie reincarnarea,ceva politic si de putere.
Ce-ar fi insemnat daca lumea crestina ar fi crezut ca exista?Ar fi zis cam asa:
"Ce nevoie am de biserica?daca am gresit cu ceva in viata asta ma repar eu in cealalta."NU,credinciosii trebuiau sa STIE ca au de trait doar o singura viata si
au de ales intre...rai si iad,si aici au venit cu tot felul de pedepse in iad si suflete pierdute etc.etc.Mai tirziu,catolicii au trebuit sa inventeze si purgatoriul,ceva de mijloc,adica ai putea avea o sansa DACA vei dona bani bisericii pt. absolvirea pacatelor,deci iti poti rascumpara greselile si vei ajunge in rai....apoi contrar bisericii au aparut asa zisii"soul eaters",un fel de mercenari care spuneau ca au darul de a lua asupra lor pacatele altora(de obicei ...f.bogati!)si le pot asigura intrarea in rai fara acordul...bisericii.Evident,biserica s-a pus pe urmarirea lor pt. a-i extermina.
In fapt biserica mai ales cea catolica a facut o gramada de acte ilegale pina la crime.In rest,bigotrie,minciuna si diverse politici ce n-au de-a face cu credinta in Dumnezeu.
Eu zic ca inainte de a trage o concluzie ar fi bine sa cauti raspunsuri sa te intrebi de unde vii si unde te duci,sint primii pasi spre o adevarata spiritualitate,decit sa crezi mecanic in ceva ce inca nu cunosti decit in mod papagalic.Nu te limita doar la ortodocsism sau catolicism etc. sint multe alte credinte de la care poti invata f. multe ,sufletul tau vrea sa stie,nu-l incarcera
lasa-l sa exploreze sa se cunoasca pe sine prin tine.
Toate au acelasi numitor comun in esenta,dar fereste-te de dogma,este un drum incuiat si fara sa vrei devii cu ochelari de cal si ar fi pacat.
Dar fiecare cu karma lui-ei,si cu destinul lui-ei,nu poti schimba peste noapte o ideologie.Daca asa crezi e dreptul tau,in alta viata urmatore vei gindi total altfel,dar nu-ti vei mai aminti de cea de azi.Vei fi o alta persoana,dar in tine va fi mereu acelasi suflet de milenii.
Imi dau seama ca ce am scris e greu de acceptat de multi,dar nu pot decit sa -mi expun si eu parerile mele personale si credinta mea,si nu vad nimic rau in asta.
Nu sintem nimeni real perfecti,cei care sint in lumea toata ii numeri pe degete si de fapt nici nu stii ca exista,pt. ca duc o viata de total anonimat si cu toate astea EI sint cei care conduc universul tot in lipsa avatarului.
Vor fi mereu 5 la numar si cind se vor reincarna la vremea avatarica(ciclul avataric este de 700-1400 ani),ei vor aduce spiritul Lui Dumnezeu intr-o forma umana aleasa de ei.Apoi rolul lor va fi preluat de Avatar in intregime.
Despre astea poate altadata.

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy

Ps: Daca esti interesata,iti recomand sa citesti cartile despre mituri si religii scrise de un f. mare erudit si cel mai mare expert in istoria religiilor si miturilor din lume,de necontestat cel mai mare!JOSEPH CAMPBELL.Vei descoperi totul in ele si la fel vei invata f. multe,raspunsuri la orice fel de intrebari ai avea.
La fel citeste autobiografia lui Dalai Lama.
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" Viata omului este ca o mare oglinda sparta in milioane de cioburi.Se vede in fiecare din ele drept altcineva,de fapt se vede pe sine insusi fiind acelasi suflet etern".

Dalai Lama
#12761 (raspuns la: #12742) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Claudia - de Little Eagle la: 04/07/2004 23:30:45
(la: Spectru neodihnit)
My dear,

Am scris in prostie un text si ....l-am facut...pierdut,mi-am dat mii de palme.....
De alaltaieri de cand am un nou keyboard,nu-s familiar cu el si fac greseli,adica apas gresit pe taste...am stat sa-ti scriu 2 ore.....pierdute caci s-a dus dracului textul meu....si acum poate-s putin mahmur,dar incerc iar sa ma las de baut....
Poate in final e vina mea....e 4 iulie....Independence day????You must be kidding!!!!
Poate cu 200 ani in urma????Cand insemna ceva????
In fine,stii CUM sarbatoresc aceasta zi....pt. cei cu capul pe umeri?
Beau pt. veteranii morti for NOTHING,in Vietnam,si pt. cei din Irak,pt. indienii mei,si negrii mei,si evreii mei si copii anilor pierduti in neant,o generatie de sacrificiu inutil....WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF THE GRAVE!!!!!

Si pt. ca azi e asa....mare sarbatoare.....am sa-ti scriu un cantec f. faimos in lume
e impotriva razboiului,apartine unor ani ce putini i-au trait si cunoscut,dar vor trai si sper ca 1 minut,vei uita de orice si vei gandi la niste suflete pt. care ar fi de trait o lacrima pe obraz.....gandeste-te la inceputul unui film COLOSAL....APPOCALIPSE NOW...si auzi aceste cuvinte si muzica in minte si vezi imagini de moarte care NU ar fi trebuit sa existe DELOC.........

"This is the end,beautiful friend
This is the end,my only friend
The end of our elaborate plans
The end of everything that stands
The end...

No safety or surprise
The end
I'll never look into your eyes again....

Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free?
Desperately in need of some stranger's hand,
In a desperate land????

Lost in a Roman wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
And all the children are insane
Waiting for the summer rain
There's danger on the edge of town
Ride the king's highway,
Weird scenes inside the gold mine
Ride the highway West,baby

Ride the snake
Ride the snake
To the lake
To the lake...

The ancient lake,baby
The snake is long
Seven miles
Ride the snake...

He's old
And his skin is cold
The West is the best
The West is the best,
Get here and we'll do the rest...

The blue bus is calling us
The blue bus is calling us
Driver,where are you taking us????

The killer awoke before dawn
He put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall...

He went into the room where his sister lived
And then he paid a visit to his brother
And then he walked on down the hall
And he came to a door
And he looked inside,
Father?
Yes,son?
I want to kill you,
Mother,I want to fuck you....

Come on baby,take a chance with us
Come on baby,take a chance with us
Come on baby,take a chance with us...
And meet me at the end of the blue bus

This is the end,beautiful friend
This is the end,my only friend

It hurts to set you free
But you'll never follw me

The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to die

This is the end....
...................................................................................................
THE DOORS are:

Jim Morrison-vocals+lyrics(great poetry)
Ray Manzarek-keyboards
Robby Krieger-Guitar
John Densmore-drums
...This is the end....
................................................................................

JUST REMEMBER ALL OF YOU ON THIS 4th.of July......WE DON"T NEED WARS!!!!
GIVE PEACE A CHANCE!!!!!!!!!

Love&peace,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)

























































































































Fapte Reale pt. Omulet - de LMC la: 04/08/2004 18:39:49
(la: Despre Alegerile din S.U.A.: De ce trebuie sa votam pt. GWB.)
Prin simplu fapt ca ai zis:

"Nu m-am mai deranjat nici macar sa deschid linkurile pe care le-ai publicat. Stiu ce contin, si propaganda fascista nu ma atrage."

asta da dovada de um om cu o minte deschisa????

Imi pare rau Domnule Goma, dar interpretarea dumitale este cea care-i obtusa. Daca te-ai fi deranjat numai pentru unul dintre linkurile care le-am listat ai fi vazut ca ceea ce era scris nu era numai de la sursa care publica. Din contra fiecare dintre linkuri arata un "headline" reportat in diferite locuri. De asemenea, ti-ai fi deschis un pic mai mult mintea si te-ai fi educat sa vezi cine-ti sint "prieteni". Vorba aia "Doamne fereste-ma de prieteni ca de inamici ma stiu eu pazi."

Din cite am citit la tine,te uiti la mine ca la un red neck, si eu ma uit la tine ca la un om care are ochii blindati. Ti-ai format o ideie anume despre conservativi, dar nici nu esti interesat sa-i cunosti. Imi pare rau dar pierzi mult mai mult decit tu crezi ca cistigi de la liberali.

Imi spui sa ma duc sa-mi citesc Biblia, si vreau sa-ti spun ca am citit-o mai mult decit ai fi citit-o sau o vei citi tu vre-odata. News Flash: vechiul si noul testament nu se contrazic deloc, ci se completeaza. Si ca sa-ti spun ce parere are Biblia despre prietenii tai homosexuali am sa-ti dau sa citesti citeva pasaje, si din Vechi si din Nou.

Leviticus 18:22
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans 1. 18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

Ai dorinta sa-mi inchizi gura, asta nu vei reusi niciodata. Atita timp cit am vlaga in mine, atita timp cit singele-mi pulseaza in vene, voi spune raului rau si binelui bine. Sa fiu sincera cu tine nu ma intereseaza ce faci sau ce face altul atita timp cit nu-mi baga nimeni pe git ideile murdare, sau guvernul tarii in care traiesc nu se asociaza cu ideile aceastea. Si eu cred ca am dreptul acesta. Nu te ingrijora, nu voi vota pentru infiintarea lagarelor de concentrare, dar vad ca lagarele de concentrare pentru care votezi tu sint aproape de infiintare. Cred ca vei fi primul care ma vei lua de la spate si ma vei impinge in cuptor impreuna cu toti ceilalti conservativi, crestini sau altii care nu-s de acord cu tine. Si inca mai ai tupeul sa-mi spui ca cica eu sint plina de ura. Ma intreb oare ce parere au parintii tai, sau bunicii tai despre tine si ideile tale.

Nu are rost sa mai continui, am sa te pun primul pe lista celor ignorati, asa ca nu-ti pierde timpul sa-mi mai scrii.
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Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908 – 2004), fotograf - OMAGIU - de ovidiusimina la: 11/08/2004 10:54:33
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
« Au fond, ce n’est pas la photo en soi qui
m’interesse. Ce qui je veux c’est de capter une
fraction de seconde du réel »

Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908 – 2004)
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Kingdoms of the world in a moment

Aug 5th 2004, From The Economist print edition
http://www.economist.com/cities/displaystory.cfm?story_id=3071607

Henri Cartier-Bresson, whose photographs defined the
20th century, died on August 3rd at the age of 95

ALTHOUGH his name was familiar almost everywhere, far
more so indeed than his work, Henri Cartier-Bresson
himself was not a familiar sight. With his alert blue
eyes and a coloured handkerchief knotted round his
neck, he would wander the streets near his home on
Paris's rue de Rivoli and seldom be recognised. One of
the greatest photographers of the 20th century was
himself rarely photographed.

In his lifetime, he travelled to all corners of the
earth, capturing images of some of the most
extraordinary moments of 20th-century history—the
Spanish civil war, the liberation of Paris after the
second world war and the funeral of Mahatma Gandhi. At
the same time he framed and preserved less famous
moments, elevating them with his genius so that they
somehow seemed to capture the essence of life itself.

His unequalled ability to seize a millisecond in time
was uncanny. In his book “The Decisive Moment”,
published in 1952, he wrote: “It is the simultaneous
recognition, in a fraction of a second, of the
significance of an event as well as a precise
organisation of forms, which give that event its
proper expression.” He was never very interested in
the technology of photography, in the effects that
could be obtained during developing and editing in a
dark room. It was all about the thrill of the chase,
the chance to seize a moment.

The man who first inspired Mr Cartier-Bresson was a
photographer called Martin Munkacsi, whose picture of
naked African boys running into Lake Tanganyika in
1931 persuaded him to take photography seriously. “I
couldn't believe that such a thing could be caught on
camera,” he said, “so I grabbed my Leica and went out
into the street.”

Between 1932 and 1935, he lived rough in Italy, Mexico
and Spain where he took some of his most memorable
images. Back in Paris he worked with Jean Renoir, a
film director, and ended up playing the unlikely role
of an English servant in the director's masterpiece,
“La Règle du Jeu”. He was a prisoner-of-war for three
years, and after the war was one of the founders of
the Magnum agency, a trail-blazing photographers'
co-operative. In 1948 he went on the road again,
mostly to India and China (in time for the fall of
Chiang Kai-shek), in an age when the images of
photojournalists like him filled the pages of picture
magazines that were, in the pre-television era,
hungrily viewed by millions.

Unassuming genius
For the last quarter of a century, Mr Cartier-Bresson
eschewed photography, taking only the occasional
snapshot of friends and family, and turning his
attention to drawing. (He trained originally as a
painter, his early work influenced by his friend, the
surrealist artist Max Ernst.) He maintained that he
scarcely wanted to discuss photography any more. “It's
like when you're divorced”, he said, “and people keep
asking about your former wife. There's something
indecent about it.”

He settled into a quiet life in France—in Paris and in
the small house that he owned for some 30 years in the
Lubéron, a region in the south of the country, to the
east of Avignon. And there he died on Tuesday August
3rd, just less than three weeks away from his 96th
birthday.

Mr Cartier-Bresson always said that to be a great
photographer you had to be unintrusive. “For me,
photography is very much a physical pleasure—it's like
hunting, except that we don't kill.” At the height of
his career he would stalk his subjects, and his quarry
would often be unaware that it had been captured on
film. His desire to remain out of the limelight stayed
with him to the end, including his wish to hold back
the world's photographers from the funeral of one of
the greatest of them.

His funeral was a private affair attended by some 50
family and close friends. Only after it had ended did
the French Ministry of Culture make an official
announcement of his death. And the next day, August
5th, many of his most famous images were splashed
across the front pages of newspapers the world over: a
woman slapping an informer she recognises at a
deportation camp in Dessau in 1945; Muslim women in
Srinagar, Kashmir, praying to the sun as it rises over
the distant Himalayas; and a French family picnicking
by the River Marne in 1938, almost a last pre-war
moment of stillness.

Of Mr Cartier-Bresson's death, President Jacques
Chirac said: “With him, France loses a genius
photographer, a true master, and one of the most
gifted artists of his generation.” But it is not only
France's loss. Mr Cartier-Bresson's fame, which grew
despite his efforts to avoid it, reminds a much wider
world of its persistent admiration for unassuming
genius, and of the dwindling stock of targets for that
admiration.

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La famille d'Henri Cartier-Bresson, la Fondation Henri
Cartier-Bresson, les photographes et l'équipe de
Magnum Photos ont la tristesse de vous annoncer le
décès d'Henri Cartier-Bresson le 3 Août à 9h30 dans sa
maison du Luberon.Les obsèques ont eu lieu dans la
plus grande intimité. Un hommage sera organisé à sa
mémoire début septembre.
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Mai multe informatii referitoare la persoanlitatea si opera lui Henri Cartier-Bresson puteti gasi pe site-ul MAGNUM Agency, fondata de HCB. Adresa este http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/ , asa cum s-a mai spus pe acest forum de discutii. Intr-adevar, acolo putem vedea cu totii niste fotografii. Adevarate...

din Bucuresti, un biet ucenic intr-ale fotografiei, Ovidiu SIMINA
11/08/2004
"Boierimea româna s-a format tarziu,..."(continuare III) - de DESTIN la: 14/09/2004 00:43:31
(la: Cum gandim?)



Urmează cea de-a doua domnie a lui Dumitraşco-vodă Cantacuzino.

În timp ce Miron Costin fugise împreună cu Petriceicu-vodă , marele vornic, Gavriliţă, cumnatul cronicarului, sfătuit de Buhuş hatmanul, care îl avertizează că Dumitraşco-vodă plănuieşte să-i taie pe toţi boierii filo-poloni, fuge, împreună cu fiii săi şi cu alţi boieri gioseni, în Ţara Românească, la Şerban-vodă Cantacuzino, vărul şi rivalul domnului moldovean .

În Muntenia, boierii fugiţi îl aleg domn pe Constantin Cantemir:

“Şi au socotit cu toţii pre Costantin Cantemir cliuceriul, fiind om bătrân, ca de şaptedzăci de ani, şi om prost, mai de gios, că nice carte nu ştié, socotind boierii că l-or purta precum le va fi voia lor […]. Că alţii mai de cinste şi mai de neam nu priimié să fie domnu” .

Tot în Letopiseţul lui Neculce (care, de altfel, nu le este deloc favorabil Costăcheştilor, din pricina propriului diferend al autorului cu Lupul Costache; este interesant de remarcat cât de mult influenţează interesele personale viziunea de ansamblu a acestui cronicar) găsim o nouă probă a uriaşei influenţe la care ajunseseră Gavriliţă şi ai săi - noul domn, Constantin Cantemir, jură în faţa marelui boier:

“Aşijdere au mai giurat Cantemir şi lui Gavriliţă: luund domnia Cantemir, să nu să atingă sabia lui de dânsu sau de vreun ficior a lui”,
după care urmează nelipsitul comentariu maliţios al lui Neculce, care îl vizează, desigur, pe duşmanul său de moarte, Lupul, fiul lui Gavriliţă:
“pentru căci el vidé Gavriliţă pe ficiorii lui că nu sunt toţi aşedzaţi la minte, ce o samă sunt şi can zlobivi” .

După mazilirea lui Dumitraşco-vodă Cantacuzino, ieşenii se revoltă împotriva grecilor, iar armaşul Fliondor, Gheorghiţă Ciudin, căpitanul Mitre şi Mileştii, în fruntea “burzuluirii”, îl caută cel mai vârtos pe Sarăieni “carele au fost de au fost bătut stupii lui Gavriliţă vornicului şi au fost dat ştiubeilor foc”, dar grecul scapă .

În 1685 începe domnia lui Constantin-vodă Cantemir. Gavriliţă este ţinut la mare cinste (vel-vornic de Ţara de Jos) şi atinge punctul maxim al puterii:

“Şi din toţi boierii era mai ales la acest domnu Gavriliţă vornicul şi cu ficiorii lui. Era el boieriu şi chivernisié precum îi era voia. Şi era o samă din ficiorii lui can făr’ de ispravă , zlobivi: Lupul şi Solomon şi Costachi. Avé slugi tălhari la casăle lor, de ţiné drumurili, de ucidè turcii şi fura bucate din Bugeac, cai, iepe. Şi să făce farmutale totdeuna şi slimuri cu tătarâi pentru fapteli lor, şi nu puté să dzică nime nemică de frica lui Gavriliţă.. Şi domnul, de şi ştié, răbda”.

Vrând-nevrând, cronicarul depune astfel mărturie, printre obişnuitele insulte, pentru măreţia la care ajunseseră Costăcheştii în timpul domniei lui Constantin Cantemir.

Deja nu mai este vorba doar de o familie bogată şi influentă, ci de un adevărat spirit de clan, pe care îl dezvoltă Gavriliţă şi ai lui.

Încercând o comparaţie puţin cam excentrică, am putea sesiza asemănările dintre aceste mari neamuri din Moldova şi clanurile din Scoţia medievală.

Costăcheştii au ştiut cum să-şi apere interesele spiţei şi au avut un “rol pe care nu l-a avut nici o familie boierească din trecut, pentru o perioadă atât de lungă” .

Vodă Cantemir îl trimite pe Gavriliţă cu solie în Ţara Românească, la Şerban-vodă Cantacuzino .

La scurtă vreme de la întoarcerea în Moldova, Gavril Costache, unul dintre cei mai puternici boieri din istoria Moldovei, trece la cele veşnice.

Au existat şi voci care au susţinut că marele boier ar fi fost otrăvit la ordinul domnului Munteniei (şi, mergând mai departe, însuşi Constantin-vodă Cantemir ar fi avut de câştigat de pe urma morţii omului care avusese o atât de importantă influenţă în cadrul procesului de stabilire a candidaţilor la domnie, care îl ţinuse, până atunci, sub control şi peste al cărui cuvânt nu putuse trece; uciderea ulterioară a cărturarului Miron Costin, la ordinul aceluiaşi domnitor, face această supoziţie şi mai plauzibilă: cei doi domnitori, înţeleşi pentru a suprima un personaj devenit mult prea incomod).

De pe urma lui Gavriliţă Costache, familia va fi poreclită, în cronicile vremii, şi Gavriliţeşti.

După moartea lui Gavriliţă, îi urmează în dregătoria de mare vornic de Ţara de Jos, fiul său, Vasile (Vasâlie, Vasâlaki), care însă nu mai avea la fel de multă trecere la Domnie, ca tatăl său.

Încet-încet, şi ceilalţi Costăcheşti sunt decăzuţi din demnităţile avute anterior .

Vasile, căsătorit cu Catrina, născută Cantacuzino , a fost un personaj ceva mai şters şi mai neinteresant pentru cronici , dar un dregător iscusit şi onest, de care nu prea s-a plâns nimeni.

Acum încep să se profileze unele nemulţumiri faţă de Constantin Cantemir, care se înconjurase de mujici şi nu mai cinstea neamurile (există o radicală conştiinţă elitară în rândul boierilor moldoveni; pentru ei, celălalt nu este neapărat străinul, ci necredinciosul şi, poate în primul rând, mujicul.

De multe ori, boierii moldoveni se identifică mai lesne cu, să zicem, nobilii polonezi, decât cu ţăranii de pe propria moşie). În acest context, mai mulţi boieri de frunte ai Ţării de Jos se strâng, în 1690, la Băcani, lângă Bârlad, la nunta lui Ion Pălade. Printre ei: Costăcheştii şi vornicul Velicico Costin. Ei hotărăsc să fugă în Ţara Românească, unde să îi ceară ajutor domnului Constantin Brâncoveanu, pentru a-l instala domn în Moldova pe Velicico. Trădată însă de boierul Ilie Ţifăscul, zis Frige-vacă, conjuraţia a dat greş.

Velicico şi Miron Costin sunt ucişi din ordinul lui Cantemir (care va fi măcinat, mai apoi, de remuşcări), iar Vasile, Solomon şi Costachi Costache, împreună cu Gheorghiţă Mitre, spătarul Dedul, cei trei fii ai lui Miron Costin şi Nicolae Costin sunt închişi.

Aceeaşi soartă o va avea şi un alt grup de boieri, fugiţi în Muntenia şi readuşi: Lupu Costache, cumnatul său, paharnicul Lambrino, Antiohie Jora şi Bujorăneştii.

Cantemir are ordin de la Poartă să nu-i omoare pe prinşi; în plus, îşi aminteşte şi de jurământul făcut faţă de Gavriliţă, acela de a nu-şi atinge sabia de neamul său. Aşa că le cere să plătească, unii zece pungi, iar alţii cinci şi îi eliberează .

Vornicul Vasile o va găzdui în casa sa pe Maria, fiica lui Constantin-vodă Brâncoveanu, în timpul nunţii acesteia cu Constantin Duca, noul domnitor instalat în Moldova .

La 1696, este vel-vornic al lui Antioh-vodă Cantemir .

În anul 1701, revine la domnie Constantin-vodă Duca.

Vasile Costache se încuscreşte cu vistiernicul Iordache Ruset, care îl convinge la nuntă să se rupă de Duca şi să fugă în Muntenia, la Brâncoveanu.

Pleacă în Muntenia toţi Costăcheştii, împreună cu Mihalache Racoviţă, Ilie Ţifăscu, Lupu Bogdan şi alţi aproape 50 de boieri .

Boierii pribegi ţin sfat, împreună cu vodă Brâncoveanu şi hotărăsc să îşi aleagă domn dintre ei.

Până la urmă, Vasile Costache moare în pribegie, în Ţara Muntenească:

“Şi n-au apucat să-ş vie la pământul lui şi la casa lui, nice să să bucure de sfatul ce-l începusă” .


(va urma)

Cine se teme de suferinta...va suferi de teama.

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Marius C - de Horia D la: 04/01/2005 01:08:29
(la: Cat de uniti sunt romanii din strainatate?)
Am glumit cand am spus "in the middle of nowhere"!
Louisville, ca marime e al 16-lea oras din US, si ceea ce m-a atras pe mine aici e ca poti sta la tara la 5 minute de oras. Cost of living e mult mai realistic decat in Lexington (al 2-lea oras ca marime in KY).. Esti la 60-75 de minute de Cincinnati, la 2 - 2.5 ore de Nashville, la 60 minute de Lexington. Si daca iti plac outdoor activities, esti in mijlocul lor (ai o multime de lacuri la o distanta mai mica de 2 ore de condus - te poti uita pe internet la Cumberland lake, sau Taylorsville/Kentucky lakes, esti la 2 ore de Appalachia, ai curse de cai 4 luni pe an - KY derby are loc in Louisville). Ca sa nu vorbim de Ohio river care trece aproape de centru.

Din punct e vedere al industriei, GE/Raython/univ. of Louisville sunt unii dintre principalii employers. Si cum am mai spus, Lexington e doar la 60 de mile distanta... E unul din cele mai "chic" oarse pe care le-am vazut aici (doar Charleston, in SC mi-a placut mai mult)...

Oricum, daca vrei mai multe informatii, scrie-mi.
Horia

The things that come to those who wait are what's left behind by those
who got there first.
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Sudul la Utah, nordul Arizone - de Horia D la: 27/01/2005 16:32:49
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata)
Sudul la Utah, nordul Arizonei... wow... Flagstaff!
Misto de tot, si in plus ai lake Powell in mijlocul desertului... si canioane peste canioane... 4 wheeling heaven!!
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aha, si inca o sa mai slabesc - de Horia D la: 23/02/2005 22:10:28
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata)
aha, si inca o sa mai slabesc, vreau sa ajung la 175... vorba aceia, vine
vara, trebuie mers la lac si trebuie sa chase "lake bunnies":))
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pai - de Belle la: 23/02/2005 22:21:57
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata)
eu zic sa slabesti pana la 165 ca sa-ti poti permite sa pui inapoi 10 (inevitabil) si-apoi sa te mentii

eu una n-o sa te mai recunosc daca devi asa silfid, deci s-ar putea ca si lake bunnies sa fie in deruta
si sa te confunde cu cine stie ce creatura extraterestra ;))
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I love this songs! - de acna la: 24/02/2005 09:22:07
(la: Ce melodie iubiti acum?)
Green Day - Good riddance
Joe Dassin - L'été indien
Magic Book - Ote'ae
Lake of tears - Forever autumn
And i'll love them forever :)

Ancutzel
belle - de Horia D la: 19/03/2005 20:43:51
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
bryce e in sudul lui utah, la o ora de monument valley, si de lake powell.
e foarte aproape de dead horse canyon (daca iti palce 4 wheeling, dead horse canyon e locul unde trebuie sa mergi - poti merge zile in sir fara sa vezi tipenie de om, dar iti trebuie un 4 wheeler, multa benzina, si apa... dar merge si bere) :))
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dar gasesti si coves cu plaji - de Horia D la: 08/04/2005 21:22:10
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
dar gasesti si coves cu plaji de nisip... uita-te la www.griderhilldock.com, unde am houseboatul, sau da un search pentru lake cumberland.
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awake - de psychedelic la: 10/04/2005 06:22:57
(la: Lacrimi mangaiate de realitate (partea I))
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day�s divinity
First thing you see.

A vast radiant beach in a cool jeweled moon
Couples naked race down by it�s quiet side
And we laugh like soft, mad children
Smug in the wooly cotton brains of infancy
The music and voices are all around us.
Choose they croon the ancient ones
The time has come again
Choose now, they croon
Beneath the moon
Beside an ancient lake
Enter again the sweet forest
Enter the hot dream
Come with us
Everything is broken up and dances
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awake - de psychedelic la: 10/04/2005 06:26:00
(la: Lacrimi mangaiate de realitate (partea I))
Shake dreams from your hair
My pretty child, my sweet one.
Choose the day and choose the sign of your day
The day�s divinity
First thing you see.

A vast radiant beach in a cool jeweled moon
Couples naked race down by it�s quiet side
And we laugh like soft, mad children
Smug in the wooly cotton brains of infancy
The music and voices are all around us.
Choose they croon the ancient ones
The time has come again
Choose now, they croon
Beneath the moon
Beside an ancient lake
Enter again the sweet forest
Enter the hot dream
Come with us
Everything is broken up and dances
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jimmy - de Horia D la: 11/04/2005 03:02:50
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata "2")
e la 2.5 ore cu masina. poti da un search la lake cumberland. are peste 1200 de mile de tarm, si dupa lake powell in utah/arizona, e cel mai misto lac din state
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afirmatii gratuite sau sprijinite de evidenta stiintifica? - de Cassandra la: 02/05/2005 17:08:06
(la: Oamenii devin homosexuali/lesbiene, sau se nasc asa ?)
"se pare ca n-ai gasit pe internet explicatia stiintifica a acelui "complex proces de simbioza". N-o mai cauta ca nici n-ai s-o gasesti, pentru ca nu exista."

Exista si poate fi gasita de cei care stiu ce si unde sa caute:

Symbiosis as a mechanism of evolution: status of cell symbiosis theory.
Margulis L, Bermudes D. Symbiosis. 1985;1:101-24.
Department of Biology, Boston University, MA 02215, USA.

Several theories for the origin of eukaryotic (nucleated) cells from prokaryotic (bacterial) ancestors have been published: the progenote, the direct filiation and the serial endosymbiotic theory (SET). Compelling evidence for two aspects of the SET is now available suggesting that both mitochondria and plastids originated by symbioses with a third type of microbe, probably a Thermoplasma-like archaebacterium ancestral to the nucleocytoplasm. Recognizing the power of symbiosis to recombine in single individual semes from widely differing partners, we develop the idea that symbiosis has been important in the origin of species and higher taxa. The abrupt origin of novel life forms through the formation of stable symbioses is consistent with certain patterns of evolution (e.g punctuated equilibria) described by some paleontologists.


The ring of life provides evidence for a genome fusion origin of eukaryotes.
Rivera MC, Lake JA. Nature. 2004 Sep 9;431(7005):152-5.
Molecular Biology Institute, MCD Biology, University of California, Los Angeles 90095, USA.

Our analyses indicate that the eukaryotic genome resulted from a fusion of two diverse prokaryotic genomes, and therefore at the deepest levels linking prokaryotes and eukaryotes


Cell symbiosis [correction of symbioisis] theory: status and implications for the fossil record.
Margulis L, Stolz JF. Adv Space Res. 1984;4(12):195-201. Department of Biology, Boston University, MA 02215, USA.

Modern biological techniques, especially nucleic acid and protein sequencing, have clearly established the validity of the symbiotic theory of the origin of eukaryotic organelles. The serial endosymbiotic theory in its most extreme form states that three classes of eukaryotic cell organelles (mitochondria, plastids and undulipodia) originated as free-living bacteria (aerobic respirers, phototrophic bacteria and spirochetes respectively) in association with hosts that become the nucleocytoplasm (Thermoplasma-like archaebacterial hosts).


Sint numai citeva articole din miile existente in bazele de date stiintifice, disponibile in Internet.

Pasagerule, - de Lascar Barca la: 18/05/2005 01:38:20
(la: DVD-recomandari)
Daca ai fi pe undeva prin America de Nord ti-as trimite o copie cu cele doua Dvd K.Crimson.Vezi,eu le recomand pt. ca realmente ma "termina".
Ii stiu de pe vremea cind Cornel Chiriac...la Europa Libera.....Greg Lake era basist....anii 70...madre de Dios!Grup deschis (open!)..."Hippies time.."
La concertele lor mergem in familie.E fain,al naibi de fain!
In the Flesh-P.Floyd-i-am vazut in concert la Mtl.Una din marile bucurii ale viatii mele.....Cu ani si ani in urma ,la Budapesta,am fost la doar citiva km de EI...si se auzea doar basssssul lui Waters.F.....me mamma!
Tre' sa sti ca Bell Center din Mtl este sala cu cele mai multe concerte din lume.
Salutu-v-as!

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nu putem da si voturi fractionare?..:) - de muma padurii la: 20/05/2005 15:23:33
(la: Ce formatie de rock (anii '70) preferati?)
pai evident(!!!) pink floyd, emerson lake and palmer si rolling stones ca pe
Folk, Rock and Progressive Rock... - de Sisif la: 09/07/2005 20:22:34
(la: Versuri din melodiile voastre preferate...)
De placut mi-au placut si imi mai plac tot felul de muzici...
Fascinat, insa, nu am ramas decat de trupe ca Beatles, Strawbs, Fairport Convention, Led Zeppelin, King Crimson, Van der Graaf Generator, Jethro Tull, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Gentle Giant, Rush, Marillion...
E adevarat ca atunci cand imi pierdusem orice speranta ca se va mai face muzica buna (prin anii '80...), au aparut Guns 'n' Roses, iar la scurt timp s-a produs in Seattle minunea aceea sub-pop numita grunge cu Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden etc.
Din cand in cand, trupe ca Silverchair, Perfect Cercle (derivat din Tool), System of a Down, Rammstein etc. ne aduc aminte ca muzica buna nu a murit...
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