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Would you like to read your name in Paris, London and New York? - de Dinu Lazar la: 22/04/2004 06:22:10
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
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martin eden - jack london te - de oanalaur la: 27/09/2005 16:33:02
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
martin eden - jack london
templul parasit - din pacate nu mai stiu autorul, un neamt in orice caz

hmm...sa zic "Martin Eden" de - de (anonim) la: 19/10/2003 08:38:06
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
hmm...sa zic "Martin Eden" de Jack London.Poate si caracterului autobiografic al cartii.
s-a deviat putin de la subiect... - de sanjuro la: 22/10/2003 01:55:27
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
Am lipsit cateva zile, si nu pot sa nu remarc deviarea de la subiect. Nu stiu de ce, dar subiectul a fost clar.
Si mie mi-au placut in copilarie Tom Sawyer, Comoara din Insula, Robinson Crusoe, Basmele lui Ispirescu, Legendele Olimpului, cartile lui Dumas, Karl May, Fenimore Cooper, Jules Verne, Jack London...Pif-urile, ba chiar si Cutezatorii. Am avut ocazia sa citesc o groaza de carti publicate in perioada interbelica in colectiile: "romane captivante", "15 lei", "Aventura", "celor 4 asi", "dox"...Mi-au placut. Cum mi-au placut si cele scrise de Paul Feval, Sven Hassel...Am citit si Rebreanu, (a citit cineva "Gorila"?) de fapt mai pe toti clasicii romani, in special interbelici. La fel si scriitori rusi. Dar NU mi-au marcat existenta.
Cele care mi-au marcat existenta, si mi-au slefuit caracterul, (zic eu) au fost acelea pe care le-am enumerat in primul mesaj.

Multumesc,


sanjuro
Din site-ul http://www.masoni - de Ingrid la: 17/11/2003 03:51:46
(la: Protocoalele Inteleptilor Sionului)
Din site-ul http://www.masonicforum.ro/ro/nr10/sion.html
.... Protocoalele Inteleptilor Sionului, lucrare cunoscuta uneori si sub numele Protocoalele Batranilor din Sion.
Ea constituie unul din cele mai notorii falsuri literare din istorie si s-a bazat pe plagiat si frauda inca din cele mai fragede inceputuri. Cu toate acestea, acest fals a captat imaginatia multor oameni, altfel foarte rationali, si s-a transformat intr-o sursa indispensabila de informatie pentru toti antisemitii si antimasonii. Acest articol isi propune sa examineze istoria unei farse compromitatoare si consecintele ei lamentabile in istoria moderna, din punctul de vedere al evreilor si al masonilor din intreaga lume.
Protocoalele au aparut in 1905 la Tarskoe Selo, o statiune de vara langa Sankt Petersburg, in Rusia Imperiala, aflata sub conducerea tarului Nicolae al II-lea. Autorul, indicat in primele editii, era un fost avocat, judecator si apoi calugar
greco- ortodox, ce se numea Serghei Alexandrovici Nilus (1862-1930).
Initial, Protocoalele au aparut ca appendix in editia a doua a unei lucrari a lui Nilus, intitulata Velikoe v Malom (Lucrul cel Mare din Lucrul cel Mic). n cele cateva editii care au urmat (1911, 1912, 1917 si 1919, toate in limba rusa), Nilus oferea diferite explicatii despre cum au ajuns manuscrisele Protocoalelor in mainile sale, subliniind ca el le-a tradus numai in rusa. Diferite editii si traduceri, publicate de altii, relatau insa versiuni deosebite asupra originii documentului.
Una din cele mai frecvente explicatii este cea conform careia Protocoalele ar fi formate din inregistrarile secrete ale Primului Congres Sionist tinut la Basel in 1897, sub conducerea Dr. Theodor Herzl. Ideea pe care documentul o sustine este ca evreii conspira pentru a controla toate guvernele, pentru a distruge civilizatia crestina, si pentru a deveni stapanii lumii. Protocoalele descriu detalii asupra metodelor ce vor fi folosite pentru a se atinge aceste obiective. Masoneria Libera ar fi astfel principala unealta a Inteleptilor Sionului pentru supunerea si dominarea umanitatii.
As vrea sa incep prin a spune raspicat ca o organizatie ca "Oamenii Intelepti ai Sionului" sau "Batranii Sionului" nu a existat niciodata. Cu toate acestea, fara a detine nici cea mai mica dovada, s-a sustinut totusi cu incapatanare ca Protocoalele erau rapoarte ale acestei organizatii fictive.
Vom examina forma acestor Protocoale. Primul lucru care atrage atentia cititorului obiectiv este ca textul nu seamana in nici un fel cu un protocol. Protocoalele sunt relatari, adica detalieri a ceea ce se intampla intr-o intalnire. Ele mentioneaza locul
intalnirii, data, ora la care incepe intalnirea, cine o conduce, in general numele celor prezenti si a celor care si-au anuntat absenta, si descrierea pe scurt a dezbaterilor, cine a intervenit si - uneori intr -o forma sumara - ce s-a spus si ce rezolutii au fost aprobate. In sfarsit, se inregistreaza momentul incheierii intalnirii si semnaturile celor care garanteaza veridicitatea relatarilor.
Nimic din toate astea nu se regaseste in asa-zisele Protocoale. Singura "semnatura" este o propozitie in care se spune - "Semnat de reprezentantii Sionului de Grad 33". Mai mult,in Protocol nu poate fi distinsa decat o singura voce. Acestea sunt de fapt monologuri sau dizertatii, peroratii am putea spune, care nu demonstreaza constructia ceruta unei dezbateri sau interventii a mai multor oameni. Este un semn trist pentru credulitatea sau reaua-vointa a celor care, citindu-le, au fost gata sa accepte un asemenea text ca pe un protocol adevarat, ca pe o relatare a unei intalniri..
In ceea ce priveste continutul, absurditatea unui presupus plan criminal, pregatit de un grup care pretinde ca ar controla mass media de pe Glob - dar se dovedeste incapabil sa opreasca publicarea repetata a planurilor sale - este de-a dreptul evidenta. Scopul imediat al Protocoalelor era sa submineze influenta politica si statutul Contelui Witte, cel mai important ministru in guvernul tarist din acel moment. Witte era un om foarte cult si cu opinii deschise, confident al tarului, care planuia introducerea unei politici imperiale moderne si novatoare. Pentru ca sotia lui Witte era evreica, toata lumea era de parere ca el ii sprijinea pe evreii din Rusia, cei care trecusera prin multe persecutii si discriminari de-a lungul secolelor.
Oponentii politici ai lui Witte, sub conducerea Marii Ducese Elisabeta, faceau tot ce era posibil pentru a-l discredita in fata clasei conducatoare si a familiei regale. Ducesa si grupul condus de ea au luptat cu incapatanare impotriva incercarii Contelui Witte de a introduce in Rusia standardul aurului, de a atrage investitiile straine si de a forma o alianta cu Franta. De asemenea, era cunoscuta dorinta Contelui Witte de a imbunatati conditiile de viata ale evreilor din Rusia si de a aboli anumite legi represive. Publicarea Protocoalelor era menita sa ii submineze influenta in fata tarului si a familiei regale.
Pentru ca unii scriitori insista sa atribuie Protocoalele primului Congres Sionist, prezidat de Dr. Theodor Herzl, se cuvine sa dam cateva explicatii despre acest congres, scopul sau adevarat si rezolutiile sale, toate amplu documentate. Miscarea Sionista, fondata de Herzl si sustinatorii lui, era pur si simplu o chemare adresata poporului evreu de a se intoarce in tara natala, Iudeea, aflata inca, la sfarsitul secolului al XIX-lea, sub dominatie otomana.
Principalul obiectiv al Congresului era sa rezolve "problema evreiasca" a tarilor europene, in special prin emigrarea evreilor. In patria lor istorica, evreii s-ar fi putut intoarce la agricultura, constructii si la alte activitati, ce le fusesera interzise timp de sute de ani, in locurile in care se stabilisera.
Primul Congres Sionist International a avut loc la Basel, Elvetia, intre 29-31 August 1897. Adevarata rezolutie a Congresului Sionist a constat in crearea Organizatiei Sioniste Internationale, ce urma sa implementeze programul sionist, sa creeze un Fond National pentru achizitionarea pamantului, asanarea mlastinilor, construirea de drumuri si impaduriri.
Adevarul despre aceste Protocoale a fost dezvaluit in 1921 de catre un jurnalist de la ziarul londonez Times, Philip Graves. In Istanbul, pe atunci Constantinopole, el a gasit o copie uzata a unei carti frantuzesti intitulata Dialoguri din Iad intre Machiavelli si Montesquieu, sau Politica lui Machiavelli in secolul al XIX-lea. Publicata la Bruxelles in 1864 de cate un autor anonim, ea fost de fapt scrisa in 1858 de Maurice Joly, un avocat francez antisemit si monarhist, provenind dintr-o veche familie catolica. In romanul sau, scris sub forma unui dialog dincolo de mormant intre Montesquieu si Machiavelli, Joly il ataca pe Napoleon al III-lea al Frantei. Astfel ca, foarte rapid, a primit o pedeapsa cu inchisoarea de 15 luni.
Graves a sesizat imediat extraordinara asemanare intre Dialoguri si Protocoalele lui Nilus. Paragrafe intregi fusesera copiate intocmai. In trei lungi articole, publicate in ziarul Times din 16,17 si 18 August 1921, Graves a demonstrat ca Nilus pur si simplu a plagiat Dialogurile lui Joly, deturnand originalul si adaugandu-i-i materialul antisemit ce-i servea scopurile. Studiile de mai tarziu au confirmat aceasta argumentare.
Desi Biserica Catolica nu s-a caracterizat in general printr-o vadita afectiune pentru masoni sau pentru evrei, este remarcabil faptul ca una din probele asupra falsitatii certe a Protocoalelor a fost scrisa de parintele reverend Pierre Charles - Societatea lui Isus -, publicata in Nouvelle Revue Theologique din Belgia, in ianuarie 1938. Remarcati data: Europa se afla in pragul celui de al Doilea Razboi Mondial. Regimurile totalitare ale lui Hitler, Franco sau Mussolini dezvoltau ample campanii antisemite si antimasonice. Toti cei care urmareau evolutia acestor evenimente intelegeau ca razboiul era iminent si ca puterea militara germana avea sa isi zdrobeasca vecinii, inclusiv Belgia.
Parintele Charles trebuie sa fi fost un om de mare curaj, dovedind integritate si dragoste pentru oameni, daca a indraznit sa publice o astfel de dovada compromitatoare asupra Protocoalelor. In acel moment, inclusiv superiorii sai, care au autorizat publicarea, au dat dovada de un simt al dreptatii si umanitatii de care Europa ducea mare lipsa in acei ani.
Cu totul, sunt 160 de pagini in Protocoale, circa 40% din text, bazate pe pasaje din Joly. In noua dintre capitole, mai mult de jumatate din text se dovedeste a fi copiat.
Protocolul nr. 15 este poate cel mai interesant din punct de vedere masonic. Gasim aici fraze de genul: "vom crea si multiplica loji masonice libere in toate tarile lumii... Vom pune toate aceste loji sub o administratie unica, cunoscuta numai de noi... Intre membrii acestor loji se vor afla aproape toti agentii politiei nationale si internationale". Regasim aici toate elementele teoriilor conspirationiste si nu merita efortul de a incerca o discutie asupra acestor afirmatii cu cineva care poate crede asemenea ineptii. Sunt oameni care nu au si nu vor sa aiba cunostinta despre independenta puternica a Marilor Loji din toata lumea, sau depre faptul ca politia regimurilor totalitare se considera printre cei mai mari inamici ai Masoneriei Libere.
Protocoalele, traduse in multe limbi, s-au raspandit extrem de rapid. Patruzeci si trei de editii diferite sunt conservate in Muzeul Britanic din Londra. Mai ales in anii 1930, cind se produce expansiunea fascismului si nazismului, gasim nu mai putin de 28 de editii si traduceri, publicate in cele patru colturi ale lumii. Protocoalele au devenit "Biblia" antisemitilor si antimasonilor. Adolf Hitler le-a folosit ca justificare pentru politica lui de persecutie rasiala care a culminat cu "Solutia Finala", masacrarea in masa a milioane de barbati, femei si copii, pentru singura "crima" de a fi evrei. Holocaustul insusi a demonstrat, in cel mai tragic si mai concret mod cu putinta, nonsensul presupuselor planuri de dominatie mondiala descrise de Protocoale. In mod evident, ura antisemita si anti-masonica nu are nici o legatura cu logica, dar are legatura cu psihopatologia.
Din pacate, propaganda antisemita si anti-masonica continua sa apara si azi fara nici o restrictie. Noi editii ale Protocoalelor au aparut recent in Statele Unite, Estonia, Slovacia, Ucraina, Iran si Danemarca. O traducere in greaca a fost publicata pana si in Australia. Sentimentele anti-masonice au inflorit din nou si ating nivele ale unei activitati fanatice de necrezut, in tari cu o lunga traditie democratica, precum Anglia si Statele Unite. Antisemitii si antimasonii au invatat repede sa profite de oportunitatile oferite de tehnologia electronica - in special de Internet.
.......

PS.Nu ma intrebati ce este masoneria, ca nu stiu si nu pricep.

Alexandra (ofemeie sau copil femeie ) - de (anonim) la: 11/12/2003 12:06:36
(la: Romani in strainatate)
Ce sti tu despre patriotism ? Il simti ? Plecatul din Ro chiar ptr toata viata nu are a face nimic cu asta.
Nimanui nu ii este usor in strainatate. De cate ori mergem in Ro ne sunt ochii in lacrimi. De asemeni la plecare. Poate crezi poate nu :sunt fost detinut politic Decret 118/lit.b, si revolutionar Legea 49. Pe bune ,bune nu ca multi care au cumparat titlurile de la unul ca Senator Bebe Ivanovici. Gandul meu si al familiei este acolo unde am crescut in RO.In Ro ce job ar trebui sa ai ptr a intretine o familie cu 3-4 copii ? Alexandra invata de la viata ca nu tot ce zboara se mananca. Noi cei de afara am invatat tot pe pielea noastra.
Toate cele bune,
Pedro London
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Titlu: am ramas fara cuvinte - de Dinu Lazar la: 26/12/2003 17:18:15
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Va multumesc foarte mult pentru cuvintele Dvs referitoare la sit; sigur ca din punct de vedere al designului se poate face mult mai bine, dar si pentru mine mai importanta e fotografia si nu (inca) designul... si ma bucur ca v-ati indragostit de fotografie.

Mi-ar place ca peste citiva ani sa ma intilnesc cu Dvs la o expozitie de fotografie a Dvs si sa-mi spuneti ca ceva s-a intimplat cind ati vazut niste fotografii cindva pe un sit si ca v-ati apucat de atunci de fotografie.

Aproximativ trei ani am fost profesor de fotografie la sectia de grafica publicitara a Academiei de arte, in anii nouazeci si ceva; au fost si momente frumoase, dar si multe momente mai asa si asa, dar pe ansamblu desi cred ca am incercat mai multe lucruri (...si am adus primul computer in locul cu pricina) nu cred ca am reusit sa fac vreun student de la grafica sa se apuce serios de fotografie, adica full time, si cu succes, si trec asta la seria mea cam lunga de esecuri personale... daca excludem fostul laborant de acolo, care acum e oarecum fotograf de succes in Bucuresti si care si-a scris in CV ca a terminat Academia de Arte, in loc de ca "a terminat cu Academia de Arte"

Daca v-ati indragostit de fotografie, si daca vreti sa faceti fotografie, mi-ar place sa citi si sa nu uitati citeva fraze ale unor mari fotografi:

The magic of photography is metaphysical. What you see in the photograph isn't what you saw at the time. The real skill of photography is organised visual lying. Terence Donovan (b. 1936), British photographer. Guardian (London, 19 Nov. 1983)

The photograph isolates and perpetuates a moment of time: an important and revealing moment, or an unimportant and meaningless one, depending upon the photographer's understanding of his subject and mastery of his process.-Edward Weston

Let us first say what photography is not. A photograph is not a painting, a poem, a symphony, a dance. It is not just a pretty picture, not an exercise in contortionist techniques and sheer print quality. It is or should be a significant document, a pene- trating statement, which can be described in a very simple term - selectivity. -Berenice Abbott

Photographs are perhaps the most mysterious of all the objects that make up, and thicken, the environment we recognize as modern. Photographs really are experience captured, and the camera is the ideal arm of consciousness in its acquisitive mood.-Susan Sontag

You learn to see by practice. It's just like playing tennis, you get better the more you play. The more you look around at things, the more you see. The more you photograph, the more you realize what can be photographed and what can't be photographed. You just have to keep doing it.-Eliot Porter
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Pt. Amoore - de Little Eagle la: 21/04/2004 15:12:28
(la: Guns'n Roses sau numai trandafiri?....)
Draga Adelina/Amoore,

In primul rind vreau sa-ti spun ca poza pisicii ce o pui la file-ul tau personal...
este de necrezut!Zic asta pt. ca am si eu 2 pisici si una din ele,virsta de 3 ani
si adoptata este...EXACT ca o copie fidela cu a ta,aceleasi pete si culoare!!!
E ca un deja vu.Se numeste Pooghee.

Sa raspund la textul tau,nu etalez revolverul meu si deci nu-l arat nimanui,doar eu si sotia mea stim unde este si e in loc sigur,sintem destul de maturi incit sa nu ne ...jucam nici noi cu el.
Nici rudele si prieteni apropiati nu au habar de el,in afara desigur de Vern,amicul nostru navajo.
Stiu de la cumnatul meu ca si el poseda o arma,undeva in casa lui un shotgun,si este gata sa-si apere familia in caz extrem.

Stiu f.f.f. bine cite lucruri neplacute se pot petrece din cauza armelor,tu traiesti in UK si cunosc legile de acolo si le consider f.bune!!!Apropo de UK
sotia mea are un var ce traieste nu departe de Stonehenge intr-un mic orasel pe care acum l-am uitat,ea a fost acolo si London de citeva ori pina sa ne cunoastem.Sper ca intr-o zi sa mergem impreuna.

In UK legile sint altele,exemplul dat de tine desigur se refera la cum sint ele aplicate,noi insa,cum am spus in subiectul meu...traim inca in wild west si legile difera de la stat la stat.

Sint f. de acord cu tine,armele intotdeauna au adus rau si tragedii fiind in miinile unor oameni irationali insa si aici in USA ar trebui impus controlul lor prin lege....insa NRA are o mare putere si Dick(e un ..dick,iar Bush e un ...bush,intelegi la ce ma refer)Cheney si G.W.Bush sint...PENTRU legea de a avea dreptul la a poseda arme,cu exceptia....celor de assault,adica mitraliere,grenade,dar sa ai un pistol sau o pusca de vinatoare si in caz de atac la persoana sa le folosesti este...OK!Nu uita ca Dick e si ...mare vinator deci trebuie sa fie de partea NRA.Simbata trecuta a tinut la sediul lor un discurs inflacarat.
Si in plus,cei din NRA sint oameni puternici in afaceri si desigur...republicani asa ca ei suporta admin. actuala pt. interesele lor,si desigur vor vota pt. Bush....de cistiga ne-a luat dracul definitiv!

Inteleg ce vrei sa spui,te asigur insa ca doar daca nu am incotro,voi recurge la revolver,legea aici e de partea celui atacat,self defense.

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy
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live jazz - de adriouko la: 14/05/2004 11:41:13
(la: Jazz)
Sunt (nu de multa vreme) amator de jazz, dar trebuie sa spun ca il prefer live, in mediul sau specific, in cafeneaua de jazz.
Iar cand ascult jazz inregistrat, imi place cand aud pe fundal sunetul tacamurilor la mese, sau vocea pianistului fredonandu-si improvizatia. Chick Corea avea obiceiul asta, si ajuta sa te cufunzi in atmosfera tarzie, obosita si exuberanta a clubului.
Vara cand mai eram pe la Bucuresti, ma duceam joi seara la un club privat (uit numele) unde Johnny Raducanu canta pana la epuizare pana la 4 dimineata cu Teo Enache si diversi.
Dupa ce am vazut-o pe Liane Carroll prin cluburi de cateva ori (Londonezii stiu despre cine vorbesc), am cumparat un CD. La fel si cu Pattitucci (fostul bassist al lui Corea.) Amandoi m-au "dezamagit" in inregistrari. Scos din contextul asta (exuberant, de joc si de sarbatoare intre prieteni) jazz-ul ma lasa mult mai indiferent. Pentru ca (prin definitie?) nu spune si nici nu vrea sa spuna nimic, devine o forma artistica poate putin cam rece.

Altfel, e o scoala a simturilor de neinlocuit (decat poate, ca sa zgandar putin sensibilitatile, de un concerto de Bach...)
Machine Gun - de Little Eagle la: 27/05/2004 16:03:15
(la: Despre Alegerile din S.U.A.: De ce trebuie sa votam pt. GWB.)
"Happy New Year first of all.I hope we'll have a million years or two million more of them...If we can get over this summer.Right.I'd like to dedicate this one to the draggin' scene yhat's goin'on,all the soldiers that are fightin' in Chicago,Milwaukee and New York...Oh yes,and all the soldiers fightin' in Vietnam.like to do a thing called'Machine Gun".

Machine gun
Tearing my body all apart
Machine gun
Tearing my body all apart.

Evil man make me kill ya
Evil man make you kill me
Evil man make me kill ya
Even though we're only families apart.

Well I pick my axe and fight like a bomber
(You know what I mean)
Hey and your bullets
Keep me knocking me down.

Hey I pick my axe
Yeah but you still blast me down to the ground.

The same way you shoot me down baby
You'll be going just the same
Three times the pain
And your own self to blame
Hey machine gun.

I ain't afraid of your mess no more
I ain'afraid no more
After a while your cheap talk
Don't even cause me pain
So let your bullets fly like rain.

'Cause I know all this time you're wrong baby
And you'll be goin' just the same
Yeah machine gun
Tearing my family apart
Yeah yeah alright
Tearing my family apart.

Don't you shoot him down
He's about to live here
Don't you shoot him down
He's got to stay here
He ain't goin' nowhere
He-s been shot down to the ground
Oh where he can survive no no.

Yeah that's what we don't wanna hear any more,alright
No bullets,no guns,no bombs
No nothin',just let's all live and live
You know,instead of killing."

Jimi Hendrix live at Filmore East in NY in noaptea de anul nou1969-1970.
Band of gypsys:
Jimi:lyrics,guitar,composer
Billy Cox:bass
Buddy Miles:drums

Jimi a murit pe 18 Sep.1970....eram in anul 1 de liceu si toti din clasa mea am refuzat sa mergem la scoala in acea zi,eram 34,am invadat o berarie si stat in liniste si baut pt. Jimi.
Asa eram pe atunci noi.Azi doar 4-6 au ramas in Romania....interesant nu?
restul am plecat care pe unde ne-a chemat soarta,pana in 1982,unii in Franta,altii in USa,unii in Germania,altii in Israel,Anglia.

Am scris acest faimos cantec al lui Jimi pt. ca sunt impotriva razboiului de orice fel si de oriunde.
El a fost impotriva razboiului.Mama lui Jimi cat si bunica lui au fost din natia de indieni Cherokee,bunica lui a plecat insa in Canada.Jimi a trait mai mult cu ea
pt. ca parintii lui au divortat cand era mic.A invatat acel wisdom indian de la bunica lui.
Bunica lui i-a spus ca va avea o viata scurta....dar in ultimii 6 ani din viata va deveni mare in toata lumea si asa a fost sa fie....NIMENI in istoria muzicii de la anii 60 incoace,va putea egala geniul lui.

Din primul lui grup(in London)"Jimi Hendrix Experience",azi toti au decedat...
recent,in anul asta Mitch Mitchell si Noel Redding.

Mereu l-am iubit pe Jimi si muzica lui.

cu drag,
Love&peace brothers and sisters,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)



















































































































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...precizari necesare...pentru enigmescu, - de DESTIN la: 22/06/2004 06:07:24
(la: Istoria Canonului ne obliga sa cercetam Istoria Bisericii)
Voi comenta numai tematica dezvoltata de mine in articolul initial ce imi apartine.Adevarul fiind un aspect ce il pretuiesc, ce reprezinta calitatea unei comunicari.Comunicare ce nu mi-o doresc contradictorie,partizana sau speculativa.Sensul si locul cuvintelor in text este dreptul autorului de a le stabili...calificarea de om a lui Dumnezeu...DA! asa am gasit eu de cuvinta sa ma exprim...In continuare...calitatea de inselatori... este optiunea mea...Sunt crestin ortodox,cred in CREATIE ca opera divina a lui DUMNEZEU, insa nimeni nu are dreptul sa ne ascunda adevarul.Istoria Bisericii in acest context trebuie citita, studiata analizata.Oare cine a dorit moartea lui ISUS CRISTOS? Apocrifa, nu te intereseaza pe tine...si cate altele nu te intereseaza...Eu chiar cu "ochii largi...inchisi"cum ma-i descris...nu renunt la valori ale umanitatii.Cat priveste cititul,informarea si documentarea este caracteristica fiecaruia dintre semeni.Afirmatia ta :te faci direct responsabil fata de sufletele lor ...este total deplasata!!!Nu mi-am propus a-mi impune o doctrina, sau sa racolez...tu insa esti liber sa-ti continui misiunea...Sper sa ne mai auzim,dovada a comunicarii sincere iti mai recomand o bibliografie...Marcion Fragments of.o faith forgotten(London and Benares,1900;3rd/Edition 1931)pp.241-249 .Cu respect,


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de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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no, bene... - de Alice la: 30/06/2004 12:35:11
(la: "TIGANIADA"- o istorie nestiuta si improprie poporului roman?)
"De la primele atestari ale romilor în România, ei erau servitori, si apartineau mosierilor, mânastirilor, si curtilor domnesti. Multi erau tinuti din cauza meseriilor specifice pe care le aveau. Pâna la abolirea sclaviei în secolul al XIX- lea, noi grupe de sclavi au fost aduse cu Imperiul Otoman. Viorel Achim ofera o perspectiva asupra tuturor tipurilor de sclavi care existau, în functie de tipul de proprietar, profesie, felul de tribut pe care romii trebuiau sa îl plateasca stapânilor lor, si în functie de sedentarismul sau nomadismul lor.
Acesta era un nomadism în care oamenii traiau în sferturi fixe de iarna, iar vara calatoreau pe aceleasi drumuri, vizitând aceleasi locuri în fiecare an, având un permis de la proprietarul lor. Din punctul de vedere al nomazilor, aceste permise ofereau chiar si protectie: a le face lor rau îi facea rau puternicului lor proprietar. Fara asemenea documente ei ar fi fost priviti ca sclavi fugiti, iar aceasta era privita ca o crima. Acesta era un sistem bine controlat, si în zile determinate ale anului ei trebuiau sa plateasca tribut proprietarului lor. Oriunde în lume greseli si deprecieri interveneau în relatia dintre nomazi si sedentari.
Pentru sedentari, pamântul si cladirile sunt bunurile cele mai importante în care investesc si pe care vor sa le lase generatiei viitoare. Nomazii nu pot vedea valoarea acestor bunuri: "nu le poti lua cu tine". Ei prefera sa investeasca în lucruri cum ar fi: carute, aur, cirezi mari de vite, care în mentalitatea sedentarilor nu au o valoare stabila. Toate considerate de autor ca fiind "bani risipiti".
În acele vremuri nimeni nu era egal fata de altcineva. Aceasta egalitate este un principiu destul de recent al dreptatii. Fiecare grup, în concordanta cu clasa, religia, limba, descendenta, chiar si din acelasi imperiu sau provincie, avea statutul sau, era guvernat de un set de legi diferit si cadea sub jurisdictia unor judecatori diferiti. Din cauza acestor statute diferite, casatoriile între grupuri erau foarte limitate, astfel diferitele culturi cu seturile lor de norme si valori, activitatile economice tipice, limbile, s-au mentinut pentru secole.
Mai târziu, ca parte a politicii de asimilare a romilor, membrii diferitelor grupuri au fost obligati sa se casatoreasca între ei. Un exemplu al unei astfel de politici a fost legea proclamata în 1783 de Joseph al II-lea, împaratul Imperiului Austriac, care organiza viata romilor din Transilvania în detaliu. Ei erau obligati la asimilare totala cu cei din jur: nu aveau voie sa vorbeasca în propria limba, sau sa îmbrace portul traditional, li se interzicea casatoria în cadrul etniei, nu erau lasati sa dreseze cai, iar numarul lautarilor a trebuit redus cât de mult posibil. Copiii lor au fost nevoiti sa mearga la scoala, fiind sub responsabilitatea preotului local. Mosierul trebuia sa le acorde terenuri mici de pamânt astfel încât acestia sa fie implicati în agricultura. Oricine îsi abandona casa sau locul de munca era tratat ca vagabond si era adus înapoi pe locul unde era înregistrat. Implementarea acestei legi depindea, în orice caz, de conditiile locale si de aceea variau foarte mult de la o provincie la alta.


Abolirea sclaviei


Sub influenta miscarii internationale de abolire a sclaviei, si în ciuda rezistentei dârze opuse de nobilime, la mijlocul secolului al XIX-lea grupuri de sclavi, incluzând grupuri de romi, au fost eliberate în Valahia si în Moldova. Aceste masuri au avut ca obiectiv obligatia ca romii sa fie legati de satele în care urmau sa lucreze în agricultura pe aceleasi baze ca si alti tarani: o parte din recolta trebuia data proprietarului de pamânt. Multi romi au refuzat loturile de pamânt ce li se acordasera în aceste conditii neavantajoase, si au ales sa îsi mentina profesiile lor. Pentru ei abolirea însemna o agravare a exploatarii lor. Multi dintre ei s-au mutat la marginea oraselor sau satelor, si ca rezultat în fiecare sat s-au asezat cei care prelucreaza metale precum si alti mestesugari, unde populatia din agricultura avea nevoie de deprinderile lor. Bineînteles ca o parte din populatie au devenit tarani, în primul rând cei care deja lucrau ca sclavi pe acel pamânt. În jurul unui numar de mânastiri, satele erau formate în principal sau chiar în totalitate din romi.
Unele grupuri nomade si-au continuat stilul de viata itinerant. Primavara, veneau din calatoriile lor de iarna în satele de care apartineau în mod oficial, îsi plateau taxele, si apoi calatoreau în toata tara pâna iarna urmatoare. În timpul celei de-a doua jumatati a secolului al XIX-lea si la începutul celui de-al XX-lea, abolirea sclaviei a iscat un puternic val migrator spre alte parti ale Europei si spre America.



Perioada interbelica si al doilea razboi mondial


Perioada dintre cele doua razboaie mondiale se caracterizeaza pe de-o parte printr-o mai mare asimilare a romilor si pe de alta parte aparitia unei miscari proprii de emancipare a acestora. Au fost fondate organizatii cum ar fi Uniunea Generala a Romilor din România. Din nefericire, ele nu au avut timpul necesar pentru a se consolida. Dupa instalarea dictaturii regale si izbucnirea celui de-al doilea razboi mondial, aceste organizatii au fost dizolvate. În aceasta perioada, progresul industrial a facut ca multe din bunurile lor manufacturiere sa devina demodate si non-competitive. Artizanatul lor era în declin; unele meserii au disparut pur si simplu.
Rasismul care a aparut în perioada interbelica nu a fost inventat de catre germani. Istoria lumii este, din pacate, plina de astfel de izbucniri ale rasismului. Strategiile variau de la reducerea grupurilor mari la un statut marginal al unei cetatenii de categoria a doua, sclavie, la epurare etnica si genocid total. În aceasta perioada, asa-numitii "oameni de stiinta" au scos la iveala justificari "stiintifice" ale inferioritatii unor grupuri etnice, usurând în acest fel drumul politicilor promovate de guvernul condus de Antonescu, împotriva romilor. În 1942 cam 25000 de romi au fost deportati în Transnistria unde au fost lasati pe bancurile râului Bug, fara a avea unde sa munceasca si fara suficiente mijloace de subzistenta. Selectia acestora s-a bazat pe stilul de viata, nomadism, timpul petrecut în închisoare, lipsa mijloacelor de subzistenta sau a unei ocupatii permanente. Aproximativ jumatate dintre ei au murit acolo.


Regimul comunist

Sub regimul comunist toti erau egali în fata legii. Bineînteles, ca în."Ferma Animalelor" de George Orwell, unde unii erau "mai egali" decât altii. Desi o lege nu facea distinctia între grupuri, unele grupuri erau mai afectate de o lege decât altele. O "hârtie" putea discrimina foarte mult. Regimul comunist nu le-a recunoscut romilor statutul de minoritate etnica, si ca o consecinta, nu li s-a acordat o educatie în limba lor natala, si nu s-a tinut cont de specificul lor cultural.
În acele timpuri, datorita politicii angajarii totale, fiecare avea un loc de munca si un câstig, care îi asigura persoanei îngrijire medicala gratuita, un numar de zile de concediu si dreptul la pensie. Multi romi au lucrat ca muncitori necalificati în uzine mari, sau în "cooperativele agricole de productie" (fermele de stat).
O data cu închiderea unor mari uzine sau cu reducerea fortei de munca la un nivel mai competitiv, si cu retrocedarea terenurilor cooperativelor catre proprietarii originari, majoritatea romilor si-au pierdut slujbele. Multi dintre ei si-au reluat modul de viata traditional, incluzând reîntoarcerea la nomadism.
Diferitele grupuri de romi s-au adaptat în diferite feluri la noua situatie. Unii dintre ei si-au gasit relatiile profesionale, prietenii, în timp ce altii sunt victime ale saraciei si discriminarii si nu au nici un mijloc de supravietuire.



Bibliografie:

Achim, Viorel:
1998 Tiganii în istoria României, Bucuresti: Editura Enciclopedica
Fonseca, Isabel
1995 Bury Me Standin. London: Chatto and Windus
Fraser, Angus
1994 The Gypsies. Oxford: Blackwell Publishers
Stewart, Michael
1996 The Time of gypsies. Boulder: Westview Press.
Yoors, Jan
1967 The Gypsies. New York: Simon and Schuster "

[www.edu.ro/download/istoria_rromilor_v4.pdf] - situl e al Ministerului Educatiei, sper ca nu-i o frauda ...:(

ps. regasesc stilul lui 'enigmescu' la un vechi (de-acum antic) forumist care-si spunea 'dogmatic' si cu care am discutat candva despre atitudinea lejer didactica a mesajelor pe care le redacteaza.
Dogmatic isi construia argumentele practicand o forma interesanta de maieutica.

Mi-a placut sa studiez asta...

Mai Romica,De ce nu scrii - de Florin si atat la: 24/07/2004 10:19:35
(la: Impotenta nationala)
Mai Romica,

De ce nu scrii mata la persoana intii.
Hai sa te ajut eu...:)

Esti debusolat, lenes si incapabil desi poate cu virtuti de caracter, o oaie pierduta, fara identitate, o trestie batuta in vint, un ticalos si viclean. Esti fara scrupule si fara vointa de a lupta, fara dragoste de tara sau de urmasi.
Astea sint trasaturile tale in zilele noastre. Este tragic dar adevarat.
Politolog poate fi orcine si la fel politician, dar ce iti lipseste este a fii om. Iti lipseste identitatea umana. Orice efect are o cauza. Efectul pe care il ai se numeste ESEC? Cauza? Deprivarea ta spirituala si morala.
Esti un individ mort in pacat si neascultare, un fel de ateu liber cugetator, parasit de Dumnezeu...Solutia? Numai Christos si numai Scriptura...Cind vei intelege aceste lucruri vei intelege democratia, pina atunci poti sa visezi in continuare in saracie si mizerie, in coruptie si...s.a.m.d...(iti cunosti necazurile si durerile)

Ce zici tu? Este insultator sau nu? Este adevarat? Sau daca esti acum in London nu mai faci parte din 'poporul roman'.

"Cu respect, admiratie, apreciere si compasiune Romeo Grigorean - London-" Chiar asa?...:)

¨ceea ce ne lipseste noua es - de (anonim) la: 26/07/2004 11:01:17
(la: Impotenta nationala)
¨ceea ce ne lipseste noua este 'un om'... Solutia? Numai Cristos si numai Scriptura... Cand vom intelege aceste lucruri vom intelege democratia¨

Din ce scri tu aici sa intelegem ca natia romana va trebui sa-l astepte pe Christos, ca sa poata invata exercitiul democratic? O intrebare personala, de cat timp esti in Anglia? ma rog, London
...cred ca omul( rRomica) are - de SB_one la: 28/07/2004 21:35:33
(la: Impotenta nationala)
...cred ca omul( rRomica) are dreptate; si eu am recunoscut asta mai de demult , motiv ptr. care am si plecat de acolo. Ce nu intzeleg, cum se face ca dintr-o natzie de ....am ajuns noi -astia harnicii- pe aici?

Zic totusi sa-l invitam pe AlexM sa-i analizeze -dpdv literar, gramatical si paranormal - textul, ...poate ca e OK si omul a avut numai o alunecare( spre London)

PS [Cu respect, admiratie, apreciere si compasiune ??] Pentru cine...cred ca e cam "tulbure"...


SB
................................................................
Omul, care -impotriva vointzei lui- se lasa convins,...are totusi o parere proprie!
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Hello London - de Florin si atat la: 28/07/2004 21:54:51
(la: Impotenta nationala)
Romeo,

Unde esti, mai omule?
Toti vorbim despre sau cu tine si tu taci chitic.

Ti-a pus "Mr. Ken Livingston" taxa pe internet?..:))

P.S. Pentru cei ce nu stiu: Ken Livingston este primarul Londrei si este cunoscut pentru faptul ca a introdus taxa sa intri cu masina in Londra £5/zi.

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COG - de Little Eagle la: 16/08/2004 20:29:44
(la: Mari reclame comerciale)
Dear Bro,

Am uitat sa mentionez sezonul,nu am gandit ca ar fi chiar important.Stiu de DVD,eu le-am copiat prin Quick Time prin internet si cand vreau sa la revad le am pe ecran(desktop).Totul s-a tras de la ...Whitacker actorul ce a facut gura si de atunci BMW nu a mai filmat alte reclame.
Totusi Forest e un actor colosal de bun.

COG is awesome.

De cate ori vad cum te semnezi imi aduce aminte de cantecul lui The Who(Long life Pete!!!)"I am one"de pe Quadrophenia.
Am primit sambata o scrisoare de la Pete,si-a redeschis centrul lui dedicat lui Meher Baba pt. lume acum si a crezut ca am putea veni in London...am vrea noi dar nu se poate acum.
Ai vazut filmul?Sting nu era in Police atunci si a fost primul lui film.

Mai vorbim,LOVE@PEACE,
Ozzy















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La altii se poate... - de Dinu Lazar la: 28/08/2004 00:10:15
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Poate e cinva prin zona respectiva... si vrea sa vada ceva ca lumea in domeniu...

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La ei se poate face, la noi nu, ca suntem mai fraieri... - de Dinu Lazar la: 02/09/2004 01:08:19
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
La ei se poate face o istorie a fotografiei, la noi nu, caci suntem mai inapoiati, probabil... si cum pe vremea lu` Dracula nu se faceau poze, e pacat, pentru ca atit i-ar duce mintea, "Pictures with dr.Acula"...
Dar avem si noi partea noastra de vina.

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