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Pentru Mary - de (anonim) la: 06/11/2004 06:12:50
(la: SUFLETUL ESTE NEMURITOR)
Sunt Adela Vasiloi
Multumesc, Mary, pentru cuvintele bune ce mi le-ai adresat, au fost ca un balsam pentru mine. Da, sunt aceeasi din Clubul Filosofic Hypatia, intemeetoarea si unicul membru, deocamdata, deoarece site-ul are o vechime de un an (ce mult imi pare!". Sunt matematician, de aceea Hypatia, prima femeie matematician, filosof, astronom, o femeie extraordinara, care a devenit celebra intr-o lume prea putin dispusa sa faca loc femeilor in primele randuri, este ca o sfanta pentru mine. Am fost si eu surprinsa, gasind o Hypatia pe acest site. Este o coincidenta placuta - imi pare bine ca acest nume este cunoscut si respectat.
Imi pare bine si te sa vizitezi un alt site: gallery.md - fac publice acolo niste desene, create in Adobe Photoshop, despre care as vrea sa cunosc niste opinii obiective.
Numai bine, Mary!

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Mary :) - de anisia la: 22/11/2004 16:46:29
(la: Trancaneala Aristocrata)
Bine ai venit la trancaneala !!!

Sa stii ca nu ai de ce sa iti ceri scuze. Aici toata lumea e binevenita. Cel putin mie asa mi-au spus cand am bagat capul prima data pe usa si am intrebat daca e voie. Asa ca Mary fefelino (nici eu nu stiu ce inseamna fefeline si cocoline dar se pare ca trebuie sa asteptam pana se intoarce LMC.icu pentru a afla), eu ma bucur tare ca ai aparut. Si sper sa stai pe-aici .. :=))))))



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Mary - de Silvia Van la: 24/11/2004 10:39:25
(la: Inimă cu fereastra deschisă)
Multumesc fumos, Mary, ma bucur ca suntem pe aceesi lungime de unda. Te mai astept, cu drag.
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Bunä Mary, Am citit mesaj - de (anonim) la: 26/11/2004 19:31:06
(la: Studenti romani plecati la studii, va mai intoarceti?)
Bunä Mary,

Am citit mesajul täu pt Denisa ( 26538 din 27.10.2004) si m-am simtit angesprochen. Azitäzi pentru prima oarä am accesat cafeneaua iar primul subiect care mia atras in special atentia a fost cel despre studentii romäni din sträinätate.

Sunt si eu de sase ani aici la studii. Cum ai spus si tu Aller Anfang ist schwer. A fost chiar nespus de greu. Mä ingräsasem zece kilograme la un moment dat, pe bazä de nervi bineinteles. In final am räzbit, dar tot singurä mä simt. Am inceput sä mä obisnuiesc dar totusi nu e ca in Romänia. Eu studiez Stiinte Politice in Erlangen(Bayern). Dacä ai chef scrie-mi.
Salutäri dragi
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Mary, dear, - de Hypatia la: 30/11/2004 20:38:15
(la: SUNTEM NOI O COMUNITATE?)
Am luat act de atitudinea ta/ mesajul tau superlung si obositor... Un singur lucru iti scriu: nu ai citit rezultatele de la conflict si ma judeci doar dupa primele mesaje pe care le-ai citit. Momentan inclin sa cred ca ai citit sporadic, in virtutea unor idei preconcepute...
Sigur ca fiecare are drepul sa-si exprime orice punct de vedere, l-am citit pe al tau si este ultima data cand iti scriu, pentru ca acum mi-e clar ca ori comunic cu tine, ori nu, sentimentele tale aceleasi sunt... cel putin bine ca stiu cum stam...
Cat priveste chestionarea si corectitudinea datelor, ei bine, eu cred ca cei care mi-au trimis chestionarele sunt oameni de buna credinta si au scris conform realitatii, pentru ca nu ar avea nimic de castigat daca le-ar deforma. NU AM OBLIGAT PE NIMENI SA-MI TRIMITA chestionarul, si, pentru numele lui Dumnezeu, cum as putea-o face? Suntem oameni mari, eu sunt una dintre voi, o oarecare, cu ce instrumente sa va fortez? Pe de alta parte, reiese clar si o alta idee din atitudinea ta, a lui sanjuro si a Anisiei, care confirma studiile teoretice parcurse de mine: oamenii sunt mai curajosi sa dea din ei tot ce pot( bine/rau), pentru ca nu-i vede nimeni, agresivitatea este sporita, reactiile sunt foarte dure. Stiam la ce ma angajez, mai ales dupa conferinta despre conflict. Inainte de a formula acuzatii, totusi, e bine sa te documentezi la fata locului...Si pentru ca internetul va acapara tot mai mult viata noastra, iti atrag atentia ca in viitor, studiile asupra interactiunilor prin retea, vor fi mai intens studiate. NU de mine, ci de specialisti. Diferenta e ca eu fac doar o cercetare constatativa, dar ce va veti face atunci cand unii sau altii vor fi pusi in situatia de a fi studiati in cadrul unor interactiuni manipulate?
Mary, iti doresc numai bine. Pacat ca gandesti asa!
Hypatia
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Societate si moravuri a lui Jo - de (anonim) la: 04/05/2005 03:09:29
(la: Ce regretati de pe vremea lui Ceausescu?)
Jo,

Societate de moravuri nu exista! Unele societati ofera un nivel de trai mai bun sau mai scazut... dar nu inseamna ca cineva "gives a rat" de grija "poporului".
Toti politicienii sint coruptzi si linia politica pe care o iau este ca sa favorizeze grupurile de presiune din spatele lor.
Ei sint numai "fatza" unei categorii sociale si poporul nu beneficiaza decit de promisiunile si micile favoruri pe care le fac ca sa fie alesi:
"Va mai construiesc un spital... va mai reduc taxele... "

Idiotul de la Casa Alba si shleahta lui de slugi (Blair, Howard... etc) au atacat Irakul in numele marilor companii petroliere, si a industriei de armament... si asa mai departe.
Howard a trimis trupe in East Timor ca sa aiba motiv sa le jefuiasca pertolul si gazele naturale ca sa faca o favoare lui Woodside Pentrolium. In Irak, unul din parlamentarii lui Howard, Mr Lightfoot, a fost prins incercind sa mituiasca liderii Kurzi tot din partea lui Woodside Petrolium... iar noi, cetatzenii de rind sintem amenintzati de terorirsm... si riscam sa fim bombardati la orice pas...
Asa ca eu, prefer sa platesc amenda de $50 dar nu mai mai duc la votez pentru nici unul dintre ei...

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"Daca apa din fintina s-ar preface in Cotnar
As lasa limba romana si m-as face fintinar"
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jo, ar trebui sa fi indeparta - de RSI la: 29/06/2005 23:43:10
(la: Oamenii nu se trag din maimuta)
jo, ar trebui sa fi indepartata de sistemul educational. atata fanatism si primitivism n-am vazut de mult ! Poate o sa afli ca sifilisul si sida se pot contacta nu numai prin contact sexual.De pilda se pot lua si prin perfuzii (vezi cazurile de sida din Franta din cauza probelor de sange contaminat). Ce a adus bun tehnologia moderna ? Tu nu le dai copiilor tai antibiotice cand sunt bolnavi ? Sau lasi pe Dumnezeu sa-i faca bine? Le gatesti pe un foc de paie sau de lemne ? Mancarea o tii in pestera sau in frigider ? Du-te in Amazonia sa faci munca de misionar, acolo tehnologia n-o sa-ti complice viata si n-o sa mai ai copii bulibasiti. Desi eu cred ca altcineva ti-a bulibasit copiii. Si ca sa ne convingi de toate astea ai folosit ca mesager un porumbel, un inger sau internetul - alta blestematie tehnologica.
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"- Dubito ergo cogito"
"- Cogito ergo sum"

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Discutia cu jo - de TeodoraPA la: 01/07/2005 11:57:50
(la: Oamenii nu se trag din maimuta)
Vai, nici eu nu am mai auzit de mult asemenea teorii... Nici macar bunica mea nu mai gandeste asa...
Dar ma rog,
Jo, ceea ce spui tu e extrem de ignorant si de dispretuitor fata de oameni, stiinta, cultura, gandire, chiar si la Dumnezeu oarecum. Hai sa nu ne intindem la discutii despre cat de buna sau de rea e evolutia societatii, a tehnologiei, a culturii omenesti cu toate cele, cert e ca ea exista, ca aduce oamenilor si lucruri bune si lucruri mai putin bune, ca traim in ziua de azi si nu in Epoca de Piatra, ca Dumnezeu ne-a dat minte sa gandim si talente sa le folosim, si ce sa mai zic...
Daca cineva drag tie s-ar imbolnavi de o boala incurabila ai considera ca a fost pedepsit de Dumnezeu?
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Pararelism intre Iisus si Horus, zeul egiptean. - de Muresh la: 04/06/2006 17:40:27
(la: de ce credeti in dumnezeu?)

Pararelism intre Iisus si Horus, zeul egiptean.

Event Horus Yeshua of Nazareth, a.k.a. Jesus
Conception: Horus - By a virgin; Jesus - By a virgin
Father: Horus - Only begotten son of the God Osiris; Jesus - Only begotten son of Yehovah (in the form of the Holy Spirit).
Mother: Horus - Isis; Jesus - Miriam (a.k.a. Mary).
Foster father: Horus - Seb; (Jo-Seph). Jesus - Joseph
Foster father’s ancestry: Horus - Of royal descent; Jesus - Of royal descent
Birth location: Horus - In a cave; Jesus - In a cave or stable
Annunciation: By an angel to Isis, his mother; By an angel to Miriam, his mother
Birth announcement: Horus - By angels; Jesus - By angels
Birth witnesses: Horus - Shepherds; Jesus - Shepherds
Later witnesses to birth: Horus - Three solar deities; Jesus - Three wise men
Death threat during infancy: Horus - Herut tried to have Horus murdered. Jesus - Herod tried to have Jesus murdered.
Handling the threat: The God That tells Horus’ mother "Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.
"An angel tells Jesus’ father to: "Arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt."
Break in life history: Horus - No data between ages of 12 & 30. Jesus - No data between ages of 12 & 30.
Baptism location: Horus - In the river Eridanus. Jesus - In the river Jordan
Age at baptism: 30. 30.
Baptized by: Horus- Anup the Baptiser. : Jesus- John the Baptist.
Subsequent fate of the baptiser: Horus - Beheaded Jesus - Beheaded
Supporters: Horus- Twelve disciples. Jesus - Twelve disciples
Raising of the dead: Horus raised Osirus, his dead father, from the grave. Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave
Method of death: Horus - By crucifixion. Jesus - By crucifixion
Accompanied by: Horus - Two thieves Jesus - Two thieves.
Burial: Horus - In a tomb. Jesus - In a tomb
Fate after death: Horus - Descended into Hell; resurrected after three days.Jesus - Descended into Hellresurrected after about 30 to 38 hours (Friday PM to presumably some time in Sunday AM) covering parts of three days.
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa5.htm
Cules de Muresh
2Pac- Hail Mary - de Radu I. la: 06/09/2006 19:43:48
(la: Muzica)
2Pac- Hail Mary
Ipocrizia si JO - de ampop la: 09/04/2008 07:31:56
(la: politizarea olimpiadei ?!?)
Din pacate nobody gives a shit pe apararea drepturilor omului, democratie si alte vorbe de duh. Exemplul clar a fost olimpiada din 1936 intr-o Germanie a lui Hitler. Ce sa mai zicem de cea din 1980 de pe vremea lui Brejnev, in plin razboi rece cand simpaticul ursulet Misha plangea la inchiderea jocurilor olimpice in timp ce Krasnaia Armia macelarea prin Afganistan sau se instituia regimul martial in Polonia comunista. Gargara cu UN sau alte organizatii internationale, castile albastre si Bosnia, macelul triburilor Hutu si Tutsi dovedesc de altfel fie lipsa de orice interes real al carmuitorilor lumii , fie absoluta lor impotenta in a gestiona conflictele.
De ce am apara China? De dragul pacifismului si JO? Doar tibetanii luati in catarea pustii chinezilor precum vanatul atunci cand incearca sa treaca granita pot avea o parere pertinenta. Dar din pacate China este inca un partener economic important pentru lumea globalizata, pe cand din Tibet nu vine nici un profit.
Jo - de (anonim) la: 11/02/2004 13:51:22
(la: Emil Cioran - viziune asupra vietii)
"am fost, sunt, si voi fi -este o problema gramaticala si nu existentiala" - un exemplu unde maestru Cioranu a folosit ochelarii de cal, ca si atunci cind cinta cintece legionare
Motto: " Nu sint coruptibil, - de SB_one la: 19/02/2004 17:54:37
(la: A fi roman: virtute, blestem, necesitate?)
Motto: " Nu sint coruptibil, dar de cumparat"!( Lotar Spaeth, fostul Ministerpresident al Baden-Wuerttemberg)


#10074 - gabi.boldis
reciteste citatul asta in loc sa te maimutaresti in maghiara, o limba pe care de altfel nici macar nu o intelegi.

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Ketves Boldis,
mijen jo'l tutc magyarul? Vagy, te vagy a maiom a méknek a kezibe van a borotva?

( ptr. olteni: Boldis, dragutzule, tu cita maghiara stii? Sau esti maimutza care a pus mina pe cutzit?)

Prietene, se pare ca te-a atins bine comentariul meu! Inainte de a comenta n-ar strica sa pui mina si sa aprofundezi putzin psihologia umana sau sa-tzi definesti clar "pozitzia". Ia mai citeste o data articolul si raporteaza-l la tema discutata aici. Concluzia i-ti convine desigur. Ma indoiesc de asemeni ca D-l Plesu se joaca cu cuvinte fara sa intzeleaga incotro duc;( nu stiu cine e tipul si nici nu ma intereseaza...fie-mi scuzata ignorantza, mi-e suficient articolul si ce transmite celor fara minte) sau poate era dupa o "prabusire" si la o betzie cu lacrimi neintzelese cind tocmai primise o oferta de la legatzia celor mai multe scaune.


SB
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Moto:
Crede in cel ce cauta Adevarul,
Fereste-te de cel ce l-a gasit.
(A.Gide)
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Cursuri de "autoAparare" - de SB_one la: 27/02/2004 16:13:51
(la: A fi roman: virtute, blestem, necesitate?)
[De-ale lui Gabi]




La Parohia Ortodoxa Romana "Nasterea Domnului" din Stuttgart/ Germania s-au deschis azi cursurile de lb. romana ptr. copii din zona.

Orele sustzinute de Preoteasa Luminita Bratu ( Dr. in Istorie a Universitatii din Strassbourg) sint gratuite si in afara limbii romane vor cuprinde notziuni de Istorie si Geografie a Romaniei.

La deschidere au participat 15 copii de diferite virste


#9829 - Comentariu adaugat de [gabi.boldis] la mar 17 Feb 2004 - 20:19 h

[si ce lectii de istorie vor fii? din ce perspective? ]

ASTA DA INTREBARE !



SB_one
#10047 - Comentariu adaugat de Hypatia la joi 19 Feb 2004 - 15:51 h

Multumesc pentru raspuns si pentru incurajari. Ce ii reprosez eu dl. Plesu este ca implicarea Domniei sale in politica nu i-a facut nici un bine, ci i-a alterat destul de tare imaginea.


SB one
#10072 - Comentariu adaugat de [gabi.boldis] la joi 19 Feb 2004 - 19:13 h

Eu nu inteleg daca textul publicat de tine a fost scris intr-un moment de euforie scriitoriceasca, cam ca un copil care ia creioanele de colorat si le foloseste pe toate in acelasi desen, sau pur si simplu limitele tale sunt atat de strict si de bine definite incat ideile iti fierb in cap, si saracele, inghesuite si parca plictisite de ele insele dau pur si simplu pe afara fara nici un criteriu sau judecata.


SB one
#10074 - Comentariu adaugat de [gabi.boldis] la joi 19 Feb 2004 - 19:17 h

[reciteste citatul asta in loc sa te maimutaresti in maghiara, o limba pe care de altfel nici macar nu o intelegi.]


Ketves Boldis,
mijen jo'l tutc magyarul? Vagy, te vagy a maiom a méknek a kezibe van a borotva?

( ptr. olteni: Boldis, dragutzule, tu cita maghiara stii? Sau esti maimutza care a pus mina pe cutzit?)

AI LASAT-O MAI MOALE CU LIMBILE SAU MI S-A PARUT?

Prietene, se pare ca te-a atins bine comentariul meu! Inainte de a comenta n-ar strica sa pui mina si sa aprofundezi putzin psihologia umana sau sa-tzi definesti clar "pozitzia". Ia mai citeste o data articolul si raporteaza-l la tema discutata aici


Andrei Plesu este filosof, po
#10139 - Comentariu adaugat de gabi.boldis la vin 20 Feb 2004 - 13:46 h

Andrei Plesu este filosof, politolog si publicist. E poate una dintre cele mai lucide personalitati romanesti contemporane.



"legolas #9736 - Comentariu adaugat de un anonim la mar 17 Feb 2004 - 01:44 h
ne lipseste un ideal national alaturi de un spirit civic...Romanilor ar trebui sa-li se aminteasca mai des despre radacinile noastre etnice,despre trecutul nostru istoric, despre locul nostru pe harta europeana,ar fi de datoria mass mediei...Apoi ar trebui sa fim mai mandri ca cetateni,mai uniti ...Cand spunem ca suntem romani sa o facem cu mandrie "

#10301 - Comentariu adaugat de gabi.boldis la dum 22 Feb 2004 - 22:06 h



[Nu inteleg totusi de ce se exagereaza acest complex de a fi roman?
Problema romaneasca nu sunt romanii neaparat, cat liderii politici, ce educati la o scoala de opresiune practica in mod evident aceleasi metode, indulcite eventual de cate o figura politica cu aspect European]


D-l Plesu e –totusi- o figura politica, oder?

E evident ca istoria constituie coloana vertebrala a unei tari, insa nu stiu daca vertebrele astea sunt bine alese:
Vlad Tepes, de unitate: Mihai Viteazu, de religie Stefan cel Mare etc. (ca o paranteza Stefan e de admirat pentru rezistenta si abilitatile militare, insa Sfant nu a fost si nu va fi nici daca se mai naste de noua ori)

Hai sa-l punem pe Horty, doar a fost reabilitat politic nu ca Antonescu.


[In fata primului proiect ardelean de autonomie administrativa, Nastase a spus ca e imoral ca o regiune sa se dezvolte in detrimentul alteia. Poftim! In secolul XX un nimurici cu costume scumpe a emis o propozitie politica care nu numai ca nu a deranjat, ci i s-a dat chiar dreptate.]

Categoric: niste dobitoci; parca asta era calificativul tau preferat, nu?

[Plesu nu spune sa-l cobori pe Isus de pe cruce, isi da seama si el ca trebuie pus imediat ceva in loc]


Cred ca te-a ales pe tine ( in loc) ; a vazut ca esti bun la istorie si la “limbi”

[E normal sa sacrifice o groaza de cuvinte retoricii,]

In politica greselile se platesc scump! Cu gindirea la fel:” gura bate curu”

SB one
#10418 - Comentariu adaugat de DESTIN la mar 24 Feb 2004 - 03:15 h

Felicitari pentru realismul din comentariu.




Dl Apatya
#10475 - Comentariu adaugat de gabi.boldis la mar 24 Feb 2004 - 20:15 h

Insasi Domnia Voastra este un intelectual. De ce nu incearca sa deschida ochii prostimii? Si ce din ce perspective o va facea? Din punct de vedere al teologului trist? Al fatalistului slav? A scriitorului liberal, care odata ce incepe critica rationala a unui sistem de orice tip, este improscat cu noroi sau i se contesta dreptul la credibilitate? La ce intelectuali va referiti, cand spuneti de ajutor dat partidelor politice?


Dl se numeste Hypatia; esti f. subtil. Ca sa nu mai vorbesc de restul


[Imi mai permit o intrebare, cand de-alungul istoriei romanii au fost uniti?
In timpul razboaielor moldoveno-valahe, sau valaho-ardelene?
Si cand au avut romanii un ideal?]


E, aici ne-ai prin. Cu ajutorul tau si a teoriilor de import( daca importam griu, de ce sa nu importam si teorii…prostii inghit totul…pretzel nu conteaza!)


#10478 - Comentariu adaugat de SB_one la mar 24 Feb 2004 - 20:27 h

Gabi, pe mine m-ai convins. Fa o propunere


Am crezut ca ai ceva de spus(?) Ai vrut –insa – numai sa aperi. CE?

#10487 - Comentariu adaugat de Hypatia la mar 24 Feb 2004 - 22:03 h

Vedeti D-voastra, faceti cateva lucruri care nu se fac, in principiu. Amestecati lucrurile. Daca v-am scris pe privat, tot asa doream sa-mi raspundeti, iar la conferinta asteptam raspunsuri legate de ceea ce am scris in conferinta. de fapt, nu ati raspuns nici intr-un fel, nici la ce v-am intrebat pe privat, nici la ceea ce am scris in conferinta. ce sa inteleg? am scris lucruri care va deranjeaza?


Sigur ca –l deranjeaza; nu spune insa direct.

Hypatia
#10815 - Comentariu adaugat de gabi.boldis la vin 27 Feb 2004 - 21:10 h

prefer sa va scriu pe privat


Culmea: omul are tupeu , nu gluma!

10817 - Comentariu adaugat de gabi.boldis la vin 27 Feb 2004 - 21:32 h

ca sa-ti dai seama de ce esti penibil vreau sa-ti reamintesc ca am intrat aici ca sa-l apar pe Plesu din cauza neroziilor pe care tu le scriai


Dragule, esti un avocat de f. proasta calitate. Nici-o grija- insa- prostime e multa.

D.l Plesu insa cred ca s-ar fi lipsit cu placere de „apararea“ ta.








SB
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Infinitul e mare, mai ales catre sfirsit.
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Let it Be - de Little Eagle la: 24/04/2004 23:38:19
(la: "Let it Be" de Beatles)
Dear Daniel,

Cintecul atat de frumos si celebru,nu are nimic de-a face cu "Virgin Mary"!
Intr-o noapte,Paul(McCartney)a avut un vis in care mama lui a aparut si i-a spus:"It"ll be alright.Don't worry to much,it will be okay".
Numele mamei lui:Mary Patricia Mohin,a fost sora medicala si la acea vreme moase,a murit in 1956 cind Paul avea 14 ani,a iubit-o f. mult.
Cintecul este scris de el in amintirea ei,NU are nici o legatura cu Biblia .
Altadata,pe la 1986 Paul a spus ca in acele zile grele prin care treceau Beatles si erau pe cale de a se dezmembra,a consumat multe droguri si ar fi putut crea acest vis despre mama lui ce l-a inspirat sa scrie cintecul.
Cert este ca este dedicat ei,si destule ori a facut referinte in interviuri ca a iubit-o f. mult si ca a scris cintecul in memoria ei.

LOVE&PEACE,
OZZY

Ps: Stii ca Ozzy Osbourne a fost mult influentat de John Lennon?Ca si azi inca este un mare fan al lui?Visul lui a fost sa fie ca John.
Ozzy este un avid colectionar al Beatles ii considera regii muzicii in lume.
Cind avea 16 ani cinta in fata oglinzii cu o ...matura in loc de microfon si pretindea ca era John Lennon...!

Paul a spus aceste cuvinte legate de cintec si visul lui:
"I felt very blessed to have that dream"

Adios muchacho
Let It Be/May/8/1970 - de Little Eagle la: 30/04/2004 13:48:12
(la: "Let it Be" de Beatles)
" When I find myself in times of trouble
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom,let it be.
And in my hour of darkness
She is standing right in front of me
Speaking words of wisdom,let it be
Let it be,let it be,
Whisper words of wisdom,let it be.

And when the broken hearted people
Living in the world agree
There will be an answer,let it be.
For though they may be parted there is
Still a chance that they will see
There will be an answer,let it be
Let it be,let it be,yeah
There will be an answer,let it be.

And when the night is cloudy,
There is still a light that shines on me,
I wake up to the sound of music
Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom,let it be,
Let it be,let it be,
Whisper words of music,let it be."

Words and music by Paul McCartney/Beatles/Let it be album.

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy
. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Living in the past....again? - de Little Eagle la: 02/08/2004 00:18:18
(la: Nasterea din fecioara, demonstrata stiintific ca posibila)
Hey Daniel,
Stiinta e cum e si destul de f. departe de a fi descoperit totul.La tv cu 2 sapt. in urma am vazut un doc.de 2 ore prin care se aduceau probe(ciudat dar chiar ramai pe ganduri....)cum ca nimeni nu a ajuns pe luna...deci aselenizarea din 1969 ar fi un fel de hoax...

Tu dai titlul textului tau dar interiorul este legat de altceva,desigur,oricine se gandeste la Iisus si la povestea vietii lui ca avatar al acelor timpuri.
Nu zic ca invataturile lui nu si-au facut impactul in lume si dus la credinte diverse sub nume diverse de religii crestine.

Ceea ce as vrea sa spun este ca ar trebui sa nu mai fim atat de legati de trecut.Ce a fost a fost cu 2000 ani in urma si azi traim alta societate si alte vieti.La fel as mai zice sa nu mai fim nici asa de incuiati si sa ne batem cu pumnii in piept ca religia noastra e cea adevarata...ci sa incercam sa ne deschidem ochii sa vedem ca sunt atatea de explorat si invatat de la budism,islam,hinduism,etc.etc.Este bine pt. suflet sa cunoasca si sa se descopere pe sine si in sinea lui.

Are vreo importanta cum s-a nascut Jesus?ca Mary a fost sau nu fecioara?
Nu astea conteaza ci cuvintele si invataturile lui Jesus.Ne pierdem in atatea unghere si labirinte pt. ce?La ce bun?Cand drumul poate fi direct la tinta.
E ca si cum te urci in tren sa ajungi la destinatia ta,pe drum trenul opreste in multe gari.Ce vei face? Te dai jos din tren sa admiri orasele prin care trenul poposeste ori vei sta si vei gandi doar la destinatia ta terminus?Mare atentie:
Daca te dai jos la o gara,ai putea sa pierzi trenul si altul va veni prea tirziu....

Eu am opiniile mele,credinta mea ce nu o impun nimanui,nu am dreptul de a face asta,dar in acelasi timp doresc sa fiu respectat in credinta mea la fel cum respect pe oricine in a lui,si pt. mine nu conteaza ce credinta e si cine crede in ea,oameni de diverse culori si traditii,ei sunt unul si acelasi pt. mine,un frate sau o sora .

Orice este posibil in Creatia toata,si nu este nici miracol nici credinta sau religie,este un simplu fapt obisnuit din vietile noastre.Restul e doar umplutura de vise si idealuri personale,care nu pot exprima in realitate adevarul curat despre un anume suflet uman.

Crezi,Daniel ca daca scriu astea ma face cumva ateu?Nu cred.Pot insa sa spun tuturor ce veti citi aceste rinduri ca iubesc enorm pe Dumnezeu=Jesus
(la astfel de remarca voi reveni altadata),la fel de mult ca si pe Buddha,Khrishna,Rama,Zoroaster,Mohamed,Meher Baba.Toti,aceiasi unica expresie a lui Dumnezeu in o forma umana la un anume timp din istoria acestui ciclu al Creatiei universale.

Pt. mine nu conteaza ca Mary a fost sau nu fecioara,este irelevant.E ca si cum
cineva a deschis radioul,tu intri in camera,auzi radioul dar din instinct si fara sa gandesti intrebi:"Ah,ai dat drumul la radio."Oare e chiar nevoie sa pui intrebarea cand faptul este in moment de consumatie?Nu are sens,dar apoi oare ce are sens pe lumea asta ori altele din vieti trecute sau viitoare?

Love&peace,
Ozzy




















































Citeva rezultate mai jos - de (anonim) la: 26/08/2004 07:18:36
(la: Auzit-ati, auzit!!)
OBTINUTE la proba in discutie.

Women's Uneven Bars (Mexico City '68

1. Vera Caslavska Czechoslovakia
2. Karin Janz East Germany
3. Zinaida Voronina Soviet Union
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Women's Uneven Bars (Munchen "72)

1. Karin Janz East Germany
2. Olga Korbut Soviet Union
3. Erika Zuchold East Germany
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Women's Uneven Bars (MONTREAL '76)

1. Nadia Comaneci Romania
2. Teodora Ungureanu Romania
3. Marta Egervari Hungary
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Women's Uneven Bars (MOSCOVA '80)

1. Maxi Gnauck East Germany
2. Emilia Eberle Romania
3t. Maria Filatova Soviet Union

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Women's Uneven Bars (Los Angeles '84)

1t. Yanhong Ma China
1t. Julianne McNamara USA
3. Mary Lou Retton (Kelly) USA

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Women's Uneven Bars (seoul '88)

1. Daniela Silivas Romania
2. Dagmar Kersten East Germany
3. Elena Shoushounova Soviet Union
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Uneven Bars (Barcelona '92 )

1 Lu Li CHN 10.000
2 Tatiana Gutsu EUN 9.975
3 Shannon Miller USA 9.962
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Women's Uneven Bars (ATLANTA '96)

1 Svetlana Chorkina RUS 9.850
2= Amy Chow USA 9.837
2= Bi Wenjing CHN 9.837
4 Dominique Dawes USA 9.800
5= Simona Amanar ROM 9.787

Nu sint sigur de rezultatele din Sidney, asa ca mai bine nu le afisez, poate le gaseste altcineva. Am gasit 8 olimpiade cu un total de 24 medalii (aur, argint , bronz) din care doar 4 romanesti, inclus find rezultatul Nadiei la Montreal.

Comentatoarea americana este probabil nestiutoare, dar nici a ne umfla in pene cu "paralele" prea mult. De comentariul Zvetlanei Chorkina in Atena "daca eram americana luam si eu gold-ul"...nu face nimeni vreo contestatie aici.
Deh,... la 25 de ani si in stilul cum arata de subnutrita avea O ULTIMA pofta inaintea retragerii, iar conspiratia americana nu a satisfacut-o. He, He, He !!!!!!!!

salutari,
sixpack
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:-) pentru Mary - de dinisor la: 27/08/2004 22:59:52
(la: Catre tine!)
Takk, cum zice norvegianul! (adica multam') . Cu stima,OM
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