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rem - de Intruder la: 25/11/2006 03:17:53
(la: e a m e a)
"daca scoti", "daca elimini"...vad ca nu s-a luat nimeni de titlu!!!
as zice ca-i misto poezia dac-as reusi sa-mi scot ce mi-am bagat in degetele de la priza!!!
mama lor de degete cu dinti!

rem...una peste alta: de ce ai scris titlul asa?
voiam "e a n o a s t r a"...poate data viitoare.
bye
______________________________________
"If someone wants a sheep, then that means that he exists."
Pt.Steve Irwin...Enigmescu - de Little Eagle la: 25/06/2004 01:10:40
(la: "TIGANIADA"- o istorie nestiuta si improprie poporului roman?)
Dear Bro,

Hey mate,I really LOVE Steve,he's the best!!!
Tiganiada de Budai Deleanu?Just cracking a joke and having a Fosters beer.HA!

Dupa cum stii am cunoscut multe ,am trait destule,si printre altele am cunoscut si o gramada de tzigani.
Desigur ca sunt inruditi cu indienii din India,odata am scris ceva despre radacinile lor.Ei au crezut in avatarul Rama,cu timpul au fost numiti ...roma(provenind de la Rama)si apoi si romi.

Sa spun sincer ,eu am putin sange de tzigan in mine,dar se pierde in trecut,nu stiu daca m-as numi real tzigan.
Sunt o lume aparte insa,f.aparte si din proprie experienta iti zic ca sa NU ai incredere in ei deloc,chiar cand te coplesesc cu cadouri si petreceri de mare lux.Cu ei mereu trebuie sa ai ochii in 4!!!!
dar sa mai stii ca uneori,daca simt ei si deodata li se scoala ca vor sa faca ceva pt. tine,doar cand au ei chef...atunci vor face 100%!!!!
Si nu cer nici o recompensa!

Prin 1977 am lucrat 1 an la o intreprindere in Buc.numita ISPIF,eram mereu cu alti 2 colegi,un inginer si sofer,plecati prin toata Ro. sa facem poze si masuratori pt. terenuri de agricultura.
Odata am fost in Alba Iulia,si am avut ceva probleme cu primaria pt. autorizatii etc,dar un tzigan gras si mic a rezolvat totul in cateva min. Era Burlibasa Orasului si tziganii lui munceau la constructii off the books,si deci nu erau pe state de plata dar luau bani desigur si primarul era in palma Bulibasei!

Au lucrat pt. noi,ne-au ajutat cu caratul aparatelor etc. si la fel cu cazarea pe ....gratis la hotelul cel mai mare din oras,noi am luat chitantele sa ...dovedim ca am platit ca sa fim remunerati la Buc. de Institut!HA!
La fel si transport etc.
Tziganii,au fost la inaltime!Bulibasa lua toti banii de la ei si apoi avea grija de ei cu mancare ,haine si bautura.Toate femeile din satra treceau mai intii pe la el inainte de a fi maritate,el personal avea dreptul la orice femeie ,fie fata mare fie maritata.Avea 3 neveste.

Cand am plecat dupa 5 zile,Bulibasa a dat un mare ospat in camp deschis la satra lui.nu departe de ditamai palatul ce avea....avea 3 masini,f. f. de prost gust(Kitsch TOTAL!)cu ciucurei la geamuri si multe statuete de plastic,perdele si culori combinate...aiurea,verde ca prazul cu rosu deschis si galben...te durea capul!

In fine,petrecerea a fost colosala!!!!S-au taiat 2 porci mari,2 capre si 8 pui,tot ce nu se gasea pe piata in Ro. am avut la un praznic de povesti!!!Salamuri,branze,peste,carnati,bere straina,vinuri in prostie,tzuica,palinca,cozonaci mancam ca la un ospat de-l lui Henry the VIII !!!
Dansuri din buric,femei tziganci imbracate ca de ceremonie,tziganii insa beau in prostie lazi de vin spumos,le place,mai ales cel roz!
M-am simtit tare fericit cu ei,am dansat,ne-am pupat,erau unii care treceau granita cand li se scula lor spre Iugoslavia,faceau trafic cu aur,nici nu aveau pasapoarte decat false.

Dar ce sex am avut....mama mia!!!!Bulibasa mi-a dat sa ALEG pe cine vreau,m-a simpatizat din prima data cand ne-am vazut.Am avut petrecerea sub un cort imens,am fost cam 200 persoane,primarul si el!
Era o coliba de lut si acolo m-am destrabalat cu 2 tziganci la 17 ani,crede-ma ca erau frumoase!Am ales pe spranceana!

sincer ,parerea mea e ca sunt oameni f. okay!Stiu ca fura,pun blesteme,fac multe lucruri rele,dar sunt si ei oameni,cand traiest intre ei ,abia atunci iti dai seama.
In Buc. am avut multi prieteni tzigani,ne adunam uneori cate 10-16 la unul din ei acasa in Damaroaia(imi aduc aminte,pe nume Muie tziganul),jucam barbut sau luati roma ori poker sau ...remi pe bani desigur.
Unii purtau pistoale.....i-am vazut inarmati,dar neaparat fiecare avea un sis lung la picior sau la spate la curea.
Odata Muie avea un TV si VCR,in Ro. doar elita de sus avea asa veva,era la inceputuri.JVC.Avea filme pe casete si facea bani (word of mouth) cerind 50 lei de pers.sa vada filme,si ne adunam in casa lui vreo 30 tineri in fiecare seara.
facea Muie o avere.Eu si gagicile mele de pe atunci nu plateam.Uneori faceam diverse lucruri pt. Muie,mergeam pe Lipscani si vindeam la negru Kent ori Pall Mall,Marlboro,tigari de contrabanda.

La fel vindeam(cei ce -si aduc aminte si au trait vremile),spray Rexona,sapun Rexona,Lux,..."blugi" Roy Rogers si Levy's.uneori si pantofi de dama.
Ce-mi dadea Muie aia vindeam.

Si uite cate stiu si cate experiente am trait in viata,mereu am vrut sa cunosc multe sa traiesc totul posibil la limita,live for today,tomorrow never comes.
Dar despre tzigani,sunt cu ei my brother la fel cum sunt si cu tine.
Cand nu te miros ei,si nu te cunosc anticipat(sa stii ca au un al 6lea simt)te vor trage in piept la orice secunda.
daca vad in tine un smecheras,te lasa in pace si te respecta.

Eram cu ani in urma la Paris la Notre Dame cu Marilyn sotia,si multi tzigani,desigur femei...barbatii nu muncesc!
daniel trebuie ca stie cati sunt pe acolo.
Eram pe o banca si au venit 2 la noi cu cersitul,le-am dat 5$,au plecat,dupa 5 min au revenit....si le-am auzit vorbind si in tziganeste si in romaneste amestecat,cum ca suntem de jumulit....
Cand au venit la banca le-am zis in rom. " sa-si rada pizdele in fata altora" e o expresie pt. ei f.dura legata de cersit si a nu fi sincer.

Apoi am zis ca le fac un buzunar in stomac imediat daca nu se uschesc din fata mea,si au plecat zicand multumesc conasule.

Dar astea pe moment cu tziganii,am de lucru,nu stiu inca daca azi ori incep maine.Agentul meu m-a telefonat dar cand fac altceva,ca acum,Nu intrerup ce am inceput nici pt. bani macar!Asa ca-l las sa astepte.

Love&peace,
Ozzy(Little Eagle Who Cries)



























































































































. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Realitatile noastre - de (anonim) la: 14/09/2004 19:22:40
(la: Ce regretati de pe vremea lui Ceausescu?)
Recomand celor care au posibilitatea o vizita la muzeul Memorialul Durerii de la Sighetul Marmatiei in Maramures.Pentru mine (am 25 de ani, am trait in comunism destul de putin ca sa pot emite judecati) a fost ceva extraordinar. Am simtit ca si cum am fi trait intr-o lume paralela. Este impresionant cum a reusit aparatul comunist sa ascunda toate acestea. Te face sa te gandesti la marimea minciunii in care am trait. Asa incat nu reusesc sa-i inteleg pe unii de pe forum. Nu inteleg cum reusesc sa gaseasca lucruri de care sa le fie dor. Este adevarat ca aveam mai mult timp sa stam cu familia sau mai mult timp pentru concediu (imi aduc aminte cum mergeam cu parintii mei.Nu imi aduc aminte in schimb sa fi fost extraordinar de bine sau curat. Dar asa suntem noi. Inghitim orice. Recomand celor celor care au uitat o vizita si la Geoagiu Bai sa vedeti batranii nostri in ce conditii - neschimbate , de altfel- isi trateaza bolile. Sau in ce conditii mananca.) Dar eu cred ca noi romanii nu reusim sa ne adaptam la schimbare cu prea mult succes. Familia mea si acum gasim timp sa stam impreuna, sa facem picnicuri, sa mergem la sapa la tara, sa chemam prietenii la masa duminica, sa facem un remi. Am gasit de lucru toti, nu suntem someri. Nu traim idilic dar nici nu ne dorim prea multe.Reusim si sa avem bani pentru un film la cinema ca si altadata, si de flori la balcon, chiar si timpul necesar pentru curatenia de primavara din fata blocului. In ce ma priveste lucrurile bune de pe vremea comunisului (dpdv uman) nu le-am pierdut. Am castigat pentru copii nostri dreptul de a alege.De a alege unde sa lucreze, ce si cat sa manance, daca sa stinga becul sau nu, sa asculte muzica straina, posibilitatea de a emite pareri despre tara, conducatori sau strainatate, de a evolua sau involua. Din pacate nu putem fi toti egali pt ca viata nu ne ofera aceleasi posibilitati si observ ca multa lume e frustrata din aceasta cauza si nu reuseste sa inteleaga (o alta mostenire pacatoasa a ideii "toti suntem egali"). Si probabil nici nu stiu cum ii sa muncesti pentru ceea ce ai.

Cu respect
Delia
Acum ascult... - de Anca Holban la: 24/11/2004 17:21:17
(la: Muzica)
REM - The Lifting
O ascult intamplator. Playlist-ul curge ;)
cartarescu??? - de (anonim) la: 22/12/2004 23:44:24
(la: Carti ce ne-au marcat existenta)
M-a fascinat de la prima carte ("REM, Nostalgia") pe care am citit-o in liceu. Apoi am reusit sa citesc cam toata proza lui, dar asta din cauza unei obsesii: nu-l intelegeam! Si cred ca ar trebui sa recunoastem cu totii ca ne fascineaza ceea ce nu intelegem, dar impartaseste textualitatea remarcabila a postmodernismului... Iti recomand sa te intorci la "Tavesti" dupa ce vei fi citit "Orasul cu salcami" al lui Mihail Sebastian..
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Rem.... - de fefe la: 31/03/2005 22:17:27
(la: Ati facut vreodata sex oral ?)
Vezi citeva mesaje mai jos ca Tudorica a raspuns inainte de a posta tu.

Te iertam ca esti mic.... just kidding.
EU... - de stefan dinu la: 07/04/2005 11:03:41
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
...citesc B24FUN si alte carti cu multe poze, nu imi place opera, dar mai merg la cate un concert de muzica clasica, imi place teatrul dar merg mai des la film la Mall, ascult fara probleme un Deceneu sau Ombladon dupa un Bob Marley sau REM (dupa cum le baga Winampul pe "shuffle"). Visul meu este sa fiu un corupt necunoscut, sa imi fac suma si sa dispar. Ce vreau sa spun este ca nu sunt ipocrit nici in viata si nici cand declansez.
Intre timp, am fost pe la Sibiu si am declansat:
http://www.ibiu.fotopic.net
despre muzica s`ar putea spun - de andleia la: 25/04/2005 19:57:17
(la: Muzica ta cea de toate zilele)
despre muzica s`ar putea spune multe.. muzica buna, muzica proasta, artisti de valoare si artisti care n`o sa reziste mai mult decat o vara-doua sau altii la fel de prosti ca ei dar care rezista cu anii...eu sincer prefer rockul si muzica veche.. mi se pare ca o intreaga generatie s`ar putea inspira din ce se spune acolo.. printre multi altii, ii vad sus de tot pentru mult timp pe sinatra, elvis, michael jackson... beatles, the doors, rolling stones, ac dc, rod stewart... si din astia mai noi... pe cei din rock:metallica(care de mult is legende), rhcp, rem, etc... ii stie lumea mai bine... nu zic ca altii nu`mi plac, ceva gen o melodie de`a lu` britney sau nush ce alta artista... dintre femei, cred ca pink are cea mai buna voce, care se poate adapta oricarui stil, apoi ar mai fi christina, shania si celine dion ca voce.. iar ca atitudine si "rezistenta", mamica madonna... :))) personal, imi place in ultima vreme maroon5, de aceea mi`am luat si albumu... imi place vocea lu` ala de`mi vine sa ma urc pe peretzi!! :))) mama zice ca suna a "rock drogat"... mie mi`a placut termenu`... voua nu? ;)
Am intalnit urmatoarea rem - de gabriel.serbescu la: 30/06/2005 00:18:09
(la: Cercul vicios)
Am intalnit urmatoarea remarca: ¨femeia isi doreste un babat independent, sigur pe sine, inteligent, activ si inteprinzator sexual, insa intodeauana sfarseste prin a-l domestica¨. Evident, incercarea e uneori o nereusita totala. De ce? si ma scuzati daca am deschis o paranteza de la subiect

Salonul National de Fotografie Slatina - de Ionut Dipse la: 02/10/2005 23:04:13
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Salonul Naţional de Fotografie - Slatina 2005
A XI-a ediţie.
Vernisajul expoziţiei – 1 octombrie 2005, ora 11, Casa de Cultura a Sindicatelor (CSS), Slatina

Câştigători:

Sectiunea "Contralumina"

Medalia de aur AAFR: Constantinescu Florin AAFR (Craiova)
Medalia de argint AAFR: Gorbe Gyorgy (Miercurea Ciuc)
Medalia de bronz AAFR: Moldovan Mihai E.FIAP (Brasov)
Mentiune: Chende Octavian (Brasov)
Mentiune: Gego Zoltan (Brasov)


Sectiunea "Tema libera"

Medalia de aur AAFR: Toth Stefan A.FIAP (Oradea)
Medalia de argint AAFR: Gego Zoltan (Brasov)
Medalia de bronz AAFR: Panait Ioan (Brasov)
Mentiune: Constantinescu Florin AAFR (Craiova)
Mentiune: Simionescu Viorel E.FIAP (Bucuresti)




Rezumat:

Ora 10.50 – ajungem la locaţia cu pricina, entuziasmaţi de faptul ca Fotoclub de Bucuresti are peste 20 de fotografii acceptate.

Ne întâmpină domnul Vladimir Economu si încă un domn scund, cu costum negru, nasul roşu, ţigara în coltul gurii. Sunt zâmbitori. Arunc o privire in jur si îmi dau seama de ce: suntem primii ajunşi. Nu numai de la Bucureşti, ci din toţi participanţii la acest salon naţional. In lunga sala de la CCS, erau afişate mai întâi lucrările câştigătoare, ce tronau pe pereţi în rame de lemn negeluit, aşezate parcă împotriva conceptului de simeza. Spre capătul sălii erau exilate 13 panouri norocoase cu pozele acceptate în expoziţie, dar nepremiate. Spun norocoase deoarece fotografiile cu pricina, în ciuda faptului ca au fost răstignite cu cate 3 cuie fiecare, una lângă alta, pe lung sau pe lat, ca sa încapă, au reuşit sa eclipseze majoritatea imaginilor desemnate câştigătoare. Din păcate, supliciul menţionat a fost dublat de o iluminare mai mult decât jalnică, provenită de la un candelabru născut in preistoria comunistă a tărişoarei noastre, cu discuri galbene si neregulate de plastic în chip de ornament. Mi-am spus ca astea sunt condiţiile, sunt vremuri grele si nu “e” bani.
In timpul schimbului de păreri cu un colegii fotoclubişti, dl. Economu ne-a înmânat cate un “Catalog” care, pe lângă faptul că a epuizat cartuşul color al organizatorilor, citez: „a costat 200.000 bucata”. Spre dezamăgirea noastră, Catalogul are 10 pagini + coperta şi nu cuprinde decât fotografiile câştigătoare şi nu şi cele acceptate in expoziţie.
Mai mult, domnul în negru, un fel de Man in Black de Salon, a venit si ne-a şoptit cu un aer complice că organizatorii nu ne vor da pe loc şi CD-urile cu imaginile acceptate pentru ca n-au reuşit sa le facă în România şi că atunci le-au comandat în America ... (!?)
Mon Dieu !

Cât despre festivitatea de premiere ... Care festivitate ? Aia unde se acorda medaliile de aur, argint şi de bronz (şi care poarta sigla AAF). N-a existat aşa ceva. Unul dintre premianţi, cel de la Craiova, a venit, a semnat, şi-a luat medalia şi a plecat. Ne-am dat seama ca e momentul să dispărem şi noi, ţinând cont ca nu împuşcasem nici un premiu.

Concluzia
Ne tragem salon naţional, dăm medalii de aur, ne dăm în stambă că e a 11-a ediţie, da’ mai departe de un apus şi un dediţel păros nu vedem.. .
Cum aşa ?

Păi, d-l Economu ne-a mărturisit că florile şi apusurile sunt febleţea dânsului şi că oricum Fotoclub de Bucureşti este la început de drum şi că are mare potenţial, dar că nu se putea să câştige vreun premiu, aşa, de la prima participare…
muzica - de marian marian la: 10/10/2005 03:10:01
(la: Ce muzica ascultati in ultima vreme?)
damien rice,rem,keane,budha bar, lhasa...
cassandra - de om la: 19/10/2005 00:57:35
(la: Oamenii nu se trag din maimuta)
daca tot ai aparut prin cafenea astazi iti trimit ceva interesanta. Totusi este si mai SF decat "teoria dezvoltarii embrionare" pe care te tot feresti sa o comentezi ;))
Violent dreams may hint at why dreaming evolved, researchers say
Oct. 18, 2005
Special to World Science

Twenty years ago, scientists discovered a bizarre disorder whose victims act out their dreams while asleep, often hurting themselves or their spouses in the process.
One patient kicked a hole in his bedroom wall, according to a paper published in a medical journal. Another tried to jump out a window. A third fired an unloaded gun, a fourth attempted to set his bed on fire. Still others tried to choke their wives.
Now, scientists say a new study has provided surprising insights into the condition, suggesting patients tend not only to act out their dreams, but to have many more violent ones than other people.

This, in turn, hints that the disorder could shed light on an old debate, the researchers claim: why dreams evolved, and what function they serve. One theory that deserves particular attention in light of the findings, they add, is that dreams evolved as a way to mentally rehearse threatening situations.

Dreams appear “severely altered” in the disorder, known as REM Sleep Behavior Disorder or RBD, wrote the researchers in the Oct. 11 issue of the research journal Neurology. Their study of 98 patients found that the patients reported having violent dreams more than four times as often as healthy people.

This was striking, the researchers added, especially given that past research has shown aggression, misfortune and other negative thoughts tend to weigh prominently even in healthy people’s dreams.

Yet the sleep disorder patients were no more violent in real life than ordinary, the researchers wrote, and some past reports have suggested they may be even less so.

The prevalence of the disorder is unknown, but estimates have ranged from 0.5 percent to 1 percent of the population. Patients are most often men, usually middle-aged or older.

The REM in the name of the condition stands for Rapid Eye Movement, a phase of sleep normally associated with dreaming. The name reflects the fact that patients act out their dreams. This isn’t the case with sleepwalking, a separate condition, which normally occurs in a different phase of sleep.

RBD is usually treatable. Doctors often prescribe the drug Clonazepam for the condition. Some physicians also argue that many cases can be treated without drugs, by taking steps to make the bedroom safer.

Patients often flail, kick and punch in their sleep. This often leads to injuries, though no deaths have been reported. If awoken, patients will often say they were dreaming of fending off attackers, protecting their families from intruders or running from a threat.

Healthy people don’t act out their dreams because the brain has a mechanism for immobilizing the body during the dreaming stage of sleep. But this mechanism malfunctions in RBD.

In the new study, Maria L. Fantini and colleagues at Vita-Salute San Raffaele University in Milan, Italy, decided to see if patients also experience different types of dreams. Past reports suggested patients had more vivid or violent dreams, but the issue hadn’t been studied in detail, according to Fantini and colleagues.

They asked participants in their study simply to describe the most recent dream or dreams they could recall. Sixty-six percent of sleep disorder patients recounted at least one violent dream, compared with 15 percent of healthy people who were surveyed for comparison.

The patients’ dreams also tended to have different casts of characters, which may have been related to the threatening themes: more animals, and more strangers. But “Interestingly, sexual elements in dreams were never reported by patients,” wrote the researchers.

The violent dreams and the uncontrolled body movements in RBD likely result from the same underlying brain problem, Fantini and colleagues wrote —possibly hyperactivity in the brain stem, a primitive part of the brain connected to the spinal cord. A leading theory claims the brain stem is at the root of a brain network for dreaming.

Fantini and colleagues also said the findings draw attention to another theory, which addresses why dreaming evolved rather than how it physically occurs.

Proposed by Finnish psychologist Antti Revonsuo five years ago, the theory holds that dreaming evolved as a way to rehearse threatening situations, so that the dreamer can better handle them in real life.

For the vast majority of time that humans were evolving, the most common threatening situation was a wild animal attack, Fantini and colleagues noted. Dreams may reflect this.

Children dream particularly often of animal or monster attacks, they added. This may reflect that stage of evolution most closely, the researchers said, since all organisms tend to share traits with their evolutionary ancestors most closely when they’re young.

“Interestingly, in the present study, dreams in RBD were characterized by similar percentages of aggression and animal characters to those reported in children,” Fantini and her team wrote.

Consistent with their findings, they wrote, Revonsuo “suggested that RBD may originate from an inappropriate activation of the [brain’s] threat-simulation system, leading to an intensive threat simulation during dreams.”

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muzica de toate felurile - de alex21 la: 11/11/2005 13:20:08
(la: Ce muzica ascultati in ultima vreme?)
depeche mode
emil
u2 -iubirea vietii mele
bjork
kumm
george micheal- careless whisper
zob
guano apes
INCUBUS
saint germain
raphael-caravane
texas
directia 5
REM
si mmmmmmmuuulte soundtrackuri dar cele mai ascultate recent sunt cele de la school of rock si cruel intentions si you'vr got mail.. si mona lisa smile

nu lipsesc 3 5 piese romantice.... julio iglesias...
Pentru Belle, pentru frumusetea zapezii... - de zaraza sc la: 30/03/2006 18:41:10
(la: Superstitii)
Imi place sa curat zapada, poate la 30-40 m m-as satura si eu pentru o vreme...:))
In aceasta iarna m-au tentat grozav nametii mari de zapada proaspata si m-am lasat sa cad in ei...zapada e un pat ideal pentru visuri...zapada este un vis...Oricit de singura as fi si m-as simti nu pot asocia zapada cu singuratatea, ea imi aduce aminte de iernile copilariei cind asteptam sa vad oameni mascati pe drumurile satului si noaptea de revelion cind ne intreceam cit de mult putem sta la tv anul respectiv...bradul impodobit...mi se pare si acum ca in bradul nostru erau cele mai frumoase globuri din lume... si ca sa nu mint, o matusa avea si ea alte globuri, la fel de frumoase...Jucam remi si era frumos...
Dar asta ne arata cit sint de diferiti oamenii intre ei...multi ca fulgii si totusi nu sint doi identici...

cere si ti se va da
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Am intalnit urmatoarea rem la Gabi Boldis - de Nanina la: 31/05/2006 19:33:01
(la: Cercul vicios)
....,, si interprinzator sexual...''. Sa inteleg ca este vorba de -potent si cu imaginatie?. Astazi ma simt cam greoaie in gandire si exprimare ,dar e necesar sa depasesc inconvenientul.
Chestia cu domesticirea barbatului imi aduce zambete. Ma pun in ipostaza de dresor si ma intreb la ce bun atata efort?. Peste o anumita perioada tot te plictisesti; si de cum era la inceput si de cum l-ai transformat- evident daca ai reusit.
Convietuirea transforma;cel cu personalitate mai puternica cu rezultate conturate, daca amandoi au personalitate puternica este si mai vizibil. Certuri, stres... .
In rest- utopie.
Casnicii fericite? .Depinde de la caz la caz de felul in care protagonostii inteleg casnicia si fericirea.



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#125360 (raspuns la: #57435) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
TeodoraPA - de zaraza sc la: 25/07/2006 13:52:11
(la: Iubim, dar cum iubim? Gary Chapman si cele cinci limbaje)
Asa a fost si la mine. Tatal meu semana foarte mult cu al tau! Al meu fiind profesor probabil pot sa spun ca serviciile oferite: educatia pe care ne-a facut-o...parte la scoala, parte prin exemplul propriu. Apoi timpul acordat...jucam impreuna jocuri cum ar fi remi etc.
Nici mie nu-mi place sa pup asa cum fac altii, parca totusi mi-am pupat fratele, mi-aduc aminte ceva...dar nu stiu cu ce ocazie...probabil cind ne-am despartit ultima data, ca de ziua lui nu ne-am intilnit de fooooaaarteeee multa vreme...
Si eu incerc sa fiu mai apropiata fizic de cei dragi, sa nu par o salbatica :D. Important e ca cei pe care ii indragim sa afle asta...sa ne asiguram ca stiu...

Multumesc mult pentru comentariu!

cere si ti se va da
#135461 (raspuns la: #135122) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
iubesc REM - de MARISA TOMA la: 03/09/2006 13:39:55
(la: Muzica)
Everybody Hurts - R.E.M.
"Fugi,d-le cu superstiile it - de om la: 12/10/2006 21:44:33
(la: Institutul de mistocarie !)
"Fugi,d-le cu superstiile italienesti...Imi pare rau de d-ta,Om tinar!...= Ei! Lasă-mă-n pace, omule; nu mă spăl la cap pentru că sufăr de bătăi de inimă. Înţelege odată ca n-am venit pentru alişveriş.
(Pampon)
:))
Motto-ul institutului
"Vino Bibicule, vino bibicule, viiin, cu portofelul plin ...pt ca Mangafaua pleacă mâine miercuri la Ploeşti, remâi singură şi ambetată..."
#151000 (raspuns la: #150995) comenteaza . modifica . semnaleaza adminului
Povesti la gura sobei... - de zaraza sc la: 08/11/2006 09:21:01
(la: Se apropie..............cine?...............)
Amintirile mele se refera la ziua premergatoare Revelionului. Desi eram la tara, Craciunul nu-mi spunea mare lucru. Colinde ascultam in oras, la copiii de tigan care umblau prin tramvaie. Stiam ceva din biblie din cartile anti-biblie, pe care le-am rasfoit de una singura. De tata, profesor de o tinuta morala ireprosabila, educator desavirsit, ( avind in vedere ca pina la urma am ajuns sa cred in ciuda educatiei atee), s-a prins foarte bine educatia ateista a comunistilor.

Toata ziua mama pregatise tot felul de bunatati. Arome diverse creau o atmosfera nemaiintilnita cu alta ocazie. Noi, cei doi copii, o ajutam dupa puterile noastre.
Seara se apropia incet-incet, ghicind-o mai mult dupa aparitia oamenilor mascati decit dupa lumina slaba inca de la amiaza. Cum apareau primii, stateam lipiti de geam, asteptind pe urmatorii.
In noaptea de Revelion ne luam la intrecere care rezista mai mult. Ne ajuta foarte mult jocul de remi pe care il jucam cu mare placere toti. De la ora 3,4,5,6 in functie de virsta noastra, noi, copiii si mama din cauza oboselii, paraseam prima noapte din an alunecind in bratele lui mos Ene.
Dincolo de geamul camerei priveam luminile magice ale bradului...cit de mult imi lipsesc acele lumini; as vrea sa le pot vedea cit de des, dar acum ele sint in alta camera, departe de ochii mei si chiar ale fiicei.

Florile dalbe, flori de mar!...



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