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T A I - de Pasagerul la: 28/09/2005 18:44:25
(la: Filmele americane/vs/ filmele europene)
Din filmele europene mai noi, poti sa ne recomanzi cite ceva?
Apropo, au existat si filme americane bune. Ai vazut "Coversatia" lui Copolla, "Sperietoarea" lui Jerry Schatzberg, "12 oameni furiosi" a lui Sidney Lumet, "Dreptate pentru toti" a lui Norman Jewison, etc... etc..,iar din alea mai noi filmele lui Clint Eastwood, American Beauty, The English Patient, K-Pax, Scent of a woman ca sa nu enumar decit citeva.
Nu se poate generaliza...
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If you always do what you've always done
you'll always get what you always got.
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multe - de AndreeaE la: 23/02/2006 20:01:07
(la: Cele mai bune filme)
calauza-tarkovsky
Solaris-Tarkovsky
Nostalghia-Tarkovsky
Andrei rublev_Trakovsky

The Machinist

Trainspotting-Danny Boyle

Requiem for a dream-Darren Aronofsky
PI-Darren Aronofsky

Snatch-Guy Ritchie
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels-Guy Ritchie
Fight club-David Fincher

Coffee and cigarettes_Jim Jarmusch


Clockwork orange-Stanley kubrick
Full Metal Jacket-Stanley kubrick
Eyes Wide shut-Stanley kubrick
Lolita-Stanley kubrick

Four rooms-Quentin Tarantino
Sin city-Quentin Tarantino
Kill Bill Vol I Si Vol II-Quentin Tarantino
Pulp Fiction-Quentin Tarantino
Reservoir dogs-Quentin Tarantino

Twin Peaks-David Lynch
Mulholland Dr.-David Lynch
Lost Highway-David Lynch
Blue Velvet-David Lynch
Dune-David Lynch

Zbor deasupra unui cuib de cuci-????

The English Patient-Anthony Minghella
Cold mountain-Anthony Minghella

Planet of the Apes-Tim Burton
Big Fish-Tim Burton

The recruit-Roger Donaldson

Insomnia-Christopher Nolan
Memento-Christopher Nolan

The Devil's avocate-Taylor Hackford
Donnie Brasco-Mike Newell
Heat-Michael Mann
Scent of A woman-Martin Brest

The Goodfather trilogy-Francis Ford Coppola
Apocalypse Now-Francis Ford Coppola

Frankie and Johnny-Garry Marshal
Scarface-Brian de Palma
Dog Day Afternoon-Sidney Lumet
Serpico-Sydney Lumet
Casino-Martin Scorsese
The aviator- Martin Scorsese
Guilty By suspicion-Irwin Winkler

Psycho- Alfred HItchcock
Frenzy- Alfred HItchcock
The birds-Alfred HItchcock
vertigo-Alfred HItchcock
rear window-Alfred HItchcock
Cam toate filemle lui Hitchcock

1984-Michael Radford

Caligula-Tinto Brass
Salo o le 120 giornate di Sodoma-Pier Paolo Pasolini
Teorema-Pier Paolo Pasoloni

Savyng Private Ryan-Steven Spielberg
Schindler's List-Steven Spielberg

Star Wars-George Lucas

Fahreinheit9/11-Michael Moore

Hotul de orhidee-Spike Jonze

Frida-Julie Taymore

21 grams-Allejandro Gonzales Inarritu

Ultimo Tango a Parigi-Bernardo Bertolucci
Stealing Beauty-Bernardo Bertolucci
Amore e Rabbia-Bernardo Bertolucci

Crucea de Piatra ultimul bordel-Andrei Blaier
Gadjo Dilo-
Cel mai iubit dintre pamanteni
Balanta

The others-Alejandro Amenabar

Casablanca-Michael Curtiz
The best things in a life are free-Michael Curtiz
Passage to Marseille-Michael Curtiz

Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind-Michel Gondry

The Underground-Vince Offer

Legends of the Fall-Edward Zwick

Si mai sunt cateva dar e tarziu si sunt oosita si nu mi le mai amintesc. Oricum astea mi-au placut foarte mult si merita vazute.











*** - de andante la: 17/03/2007 11:01:06
(la: filme care ne-au refuzat! )
The English Patient
scuzele pentru ortografie nu-s destule - de Dan Manoliu la: 23/06/2005 21:42:41
(la: "Ce bine e sa fi desptept si in acelasi timp si roman")
? 1827 - Petrache Poenaru, membru al Academiei Romane si unul dintre organizatorii învatamântului national inventeaza predecesorul stiloului modern: ?condei portaret, fara sfârsit, alimentându?se singur cu cerneala?
Homer had a long lasting writing pen made of reed.
Da Vinci drew improvements ..
Etc…

? 1858 - Bucuresti - primul oras din lume iluminat cu petrol si prima rafinare a petrolului.
Romans had full streets in Rome lighted with torches and with heated sidewalks so that Roman ladies feet do not freeze …
Baltimore in 1816 was the first city to light its streets with gas. ...
Soon much of America, as well as other countries were lighted by gas
First oil refining was done in Ploiesti (not Bucuresti) by Enhlish engineers 1n 1856 … at the time when America found its first oil field … We were ahead here!!!

? 1880 - Dumitru Vasescu - construieste automobilul cu motor cu aburi.
In 1769, the very first self-propelled road vehicle was a military tractor invented by French engineer and mechanic, Nicolas Joseph Cugnot (1725 - 1804). Cugnot used a steam engine to power his vehicle, built under his instructions at the Paris Arsenal by mechanic Brezin. It was used by the French Army to haul artillery at a whopping speed of 2 1/2 mph on only three wheels. The vehicle had to stop every ten to fifteen minutes to build up steam power. The steam engine and boiler were separate from the rest of the vehicle and placed in the front (see engraving above). The following year (1770), Cugnot built a steam-powered tricycle that carried four passengers.

? 1881 Alexandru Ciurcu - obtine un brevet din Franta prin care prevede posibilitatea zborului cu reactie.
The earliest rockets were almost certainly Chinese—there is little doubt that the Chinese first developed “black powder,” the basic propellant used in rockets. The combination of salt-peter, charcoal, and sulphur was probably used in fireworks by the Chinese centuries before Christ lived, but the only written records available are dated well into the Middle Ages.
Mongols besieging the city of Kaifeng in 1232 used arrows propelled by rockets (though primarily as a psychological weapon).
Knowledge about rocketry seems to have moved with the Mongol invasions—the Arabs are seen as having developed rockets by the thirteenth century and are reported as having used them against Saint Louis in the Seventh Crusade; the Italians were experimenting with rockets by the fifteenth century. A major refinement in the formula for black powder was made in the thirteenth century by Roger Bacon; this resulted in the creation of gunpowder.
All of those people dreamt of sending people to the moon on the tail of a rocket … Even Cyrano de Bergerac (the real one) did that in a poem …
Conrad Hass (1551-1579), German, an artillery engineer and chief of arsenal of the town of Sibiu. Hass wrote about the construction and the flight tests of multistage rockets, apparently the earliest writings in existence about the science of rocket engineering. How about that???


? 1885 Victor Babes - realizeaza primul tratat de bacteriologie din lume.
May be correct partially… but Pasteur discovered every single entry from the Babes book…see below. I included some additional date for comparison and scale … The Babes Treaty is a list of the following discoveries … And Pasteur is one of many …
1839: Departure to the Royal College of Besançon 1840: Successful candidate for the literature baccalauréat in Besançon. Maître d'études at the College of Besançon 1842: Successful candidate for the mathematical sciences baccalauréat in Dijon 1843: Accepted at the Ecole Normale Supérieure in Paris 1845: Bachelor of Science 1846: Appointed physics professor at the Tournon high school (Ardèche), but stays on at the Ecole Normale Supérieure as a qualified demonstrator. Study of crystals 1847: Doctor of Science 1848: Appointed physics professor at the Dijon high school. Appointed substitute chemistry professor at the science university of Strasbourg.
Research on dimorphism. Historic paper on the distinction between sodium ammonium paratartrate and tartrate. 1849: Pasteur's wedding with Miss Marie Laurent, daughter of the Strasbourg University rector.
Research on the specific properties of the two acids that make up racemic acid. 1851: Paper by Pasteur on aspartic and malic acids. 1852: New research on relationships that can exist between crystalline forms, chemical composition and the direction of rotatory polarisation. 1853: Pasteur is made Knight of the Imperial Order of the Legion of Honour. He obtains the prize of the Pharmacy Society of Paris for the synthesis of racemic acid. Paper on the discovery of the transformation of tartaric acid into racemic acid, discovery of the optically inactive tartaric acid. 1854: Pasteur is nominated Dean of the University of Science at Lille. 1855: Beginning of studies on fermentation, presentation in Lille of a paper on amyl alcohol. 1856: Beginning of researches on alcoholic fermentation. 1857: Appointed administrator of the Ecole Normale and director of scientific studies of this school. Paper on lactic fermentation. Paper on alcoholic fermentation. 1858: Installation of his laboratory in the attic of the Ecole Normale in Paris, rue d'Ulm Survey by Pasteur on so-called "spontaneous" generations. 1859: Experimental physiology prize from the Academy of Science for his work on fermentations. 1860: Air sampling at Arbois to investigate the issue of so-called "spontaneous" generation. Examination of the doctrine of so-called "spontaneous" generation. 1861: Jecker prize from the Academy of Science for his work on fermentations. Publication in the bulletin of the Chemistry Society of Paris of all his results on vinegar.
1862: Election at the Academy of Science (mineralogy section). Studies on mycoderma and on the role of these plants in acetic fermentation. Alhumbertprize for his research on spontaneous generation. 1863: Napoléon III asks Pasteur to study wine diseases Studies on wine - the influence of air oxygen on vinification. Nominated Professor of Applied Geology, Physics and Chemistry at the National College of Fine Arts 1864: Installation of a laboratory at Arbois for his research on wine 1865: Practical process for improving wine conservation. Studies on silkworm diseases, work on pasteurisation. 1866: Publication of the paper "Studies on wine". Publication of an essay on the scientific work of Claude Bernard. 1867: Creation of a physiological chemistry laboratory at the Ecole Normale. Appointed Professor of organic chemistry at the Sorbonne. Great Prize from the Universal Exhibition for his studies on wine. Resignation from his administrative duties at the Ecole Normale. 1868: Degree as a medical doctor at the University of Bonn. Pasteur suffers from a stroke affecting his left side. Commander of the Legion of Honour. Publication of his studies on vinegar. 1870: Publication of his studies on silkworm diseases. 1871: Studies on beer. 1873: Elected Member of the Academy of Medicine 1876: Publication of his studies on beer. 1877: Paper on the alteration of urine. Studies on anthrax. Studies on septicaemia. 1878: Nominated Grand Officer of the Legion of Honour.
Publication of the paper "Germ theory and its applications to medicine and surgery". Papers on chicken cholera.
Research on gangrene, septicaemia and puerperal fever 1879: Paper on plague. Discovery of immunisation by attenuated cultures. 1880: Becomes Member of the Central Society of Veterinary Medicine. Paper on virulent diseases (Pasteur introduces the principle of attenuated-virus vaccines). Beginning of his research on rabies. 1881: Nominated Grand Cross Holder of the Legion of Honour. Anthrax vaccine. Work on yellow fever near Bordeaux.
Election to the French Academy. 1882: Paper on contagious pleuropneumonia of horned animals. Studies on swine erysipelas. 1883: Vaccination against swine erysipelas using an attenuated-virus vaccine. 1884: New communications on rabies. Communication on pathogenic microbes and attenuated-virus vaccines at the Copenhagen Congress. Pasteur presents the general principle of vaccinations against virulent diseases. 1885: First anti-rabies vaccination on a human being

? 1886 Alexandru Ciurcu - construieste prima ambarcatiune cu reactie.
It’s more complicated, Ciurcu e numai un participant … one of two; also, educated in France.
Desire and Victoire Piot (A late eighteenth century French engineer / inventor and the origins of the Vapour Pulse Jet) probably fled France on the out break of the Franco–Prussian war in 1870 finally arriving in London where he tested his first successful pulse jet boats. Desire Piot could well have been inspired by a rocket powered boat developed by Just Buisson and Ciurcu. Not so successful demonstrations of their jet boat on the river Seine in Paris took place from August to December 1886 for the benefit of the French Ministry of Defense.


? 1887 C. I. Istrate - Friedelina si franceinele.
Correct!!!

? 1895 D. Hurmuzescu - descopera electroscopul.
Jean Antoine Nollet (1700–1770) was a clergyman and physicist. In 1748, Nollet invented one of the first electrometers, the electroscope, which detected the presence of electric charge by using electrostatic attraction and repulsion. Nollet later wrote a theory on electrical attraction and repulsion based on the existence of a continuous flow of electrical matter between charged bodies and became the the first professor of experimental physics at the University of Paris.
Many others including George Washington did the same before our guy … 1755 or so …

? 1899 C.I. Istrate - o noua clasa de coloranti.
Maybe …

? 1900 Nicolae Teclu - becul cu reglarea curentului electric si gaz.
Are you serious??? “Becul de labborator cu reglarea curentului de AER si gaz”; big difference!!!
How about Bunsen? Premix (meaning air and gas) burners were the first purpose-designed burners, and they can be traced back more than 100 years to the Bunsen and similar laboratory burners. A premix burner system really consists of two key components, the burner head or nozzle, and the gas-air mixing device that feeds it. In some cases they're built as a single unit. The mixer uses the energy of a pressurized stream of air and/or gas to mix the two and present them to the burner nozzle, which provides an ignition and anchoring point for the flame and controls its shape.

? 1904 Emil Racovita - fondatorul biospeologiei.
Absolutely correct!!!

? 1905 Augustin Maior - telefonia multipla.
AT&T 1902 … also Bell Laboratoryes …

? 1906, 18.03 - Traian Vuia - avionul cu tren de aterizare pe roti cu pneuri; cu ?Vuia I? acesta reuseste prima decolare fara sa foloseasca nici un mijloc ajutator, numai cu aparate aflate la bord (în fapt, primul avion din istorie).
Are you serious?
The first powered heavier-than-air flight took place in 1890 (Clement Ader, steam engine on bat-winged monoplane, 60 yards). The Wrights' 1903 flight (300 yards) was the first photographed heavier-than-air flight. [Correction: not quite true; there exist photos of Lilienthal's non-powered heavier-than-air flights in the 1890s.] After the advent of relatively light combustion engines (such as Benz, Otto, Diesel), other pioneers pursued similar approaches, but no photographs were taken by Richard Pearse (New Zealand, March 1903) and Karl Jatho (August 1903). Finally, the Wrights needed headwinds or catapults to start their planes, so they were not fully self-powered. But Brazil's Santos-Dumont was (1906, first official airplane flight).
Important stuff: Richard Pearse March 31, 1902. Accounts by witnesses of the flight vary, from "50 to 400 yards in length", but it seems most likely that it was around 350 yards long, and ending prematurely when the flying machine landed in a large hedge - 4 metres off the ground ! The aircraft was the first to use proper ailerons, instead of the inferior wing warping system that the Wright's used. The flying machine also had a modern tricycle type landing gear, thus negating the need for ramps, slides, or skids. Any suitable road would do. The flying machine was aerodynamically crude, for sure, but did the job on the day, and in fact for months afterwards. By the end of July 1903, Pearse had achieved flights of around one kilometre in length, and perhaps even more amazingly, some of them included turns ! An absolutely fantastic achievement for the time. Pearce also built the engine, which was estimated at about 15 - 22hp, but hampered by a much cruder propeller than the Wright's machine.

? 1906 A.A. Beldiman - aparatul hidraulic cu dalta de percutie pentru sondaje adânci.
Tough to prove!!!

? 1908 Lazar Edeleanu ? primul procedeu de rafinare a produselor petroliere cu bioxid de sulf din lume, procedeu care ii poarta numele.
A good one!!! Oil helped us a lot in the first half of last century.

? 1908 Acad. Nicolaie Vasilescu-Karpen - ?pila Karpen", care functioneaza înca si produce curent electric, neîntrerupt, de aproape 100 de ani!
William Grove produced the first fuel cell in 1839 over 150 years ago. He based his experiment on the fact that sending an electric current through water splits the water into its component parts of hydrogen and oxygen. So, Grove tried reversing the reaction - combining hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity and water. This is the basis of a simple fuel cell. The term “fuel cell” was coined later in 1889 by Ludwig Mond and Charles Langer, who attempted to build the first practical device using air and industrial coal gas.

? 1910 iunie - Aurel Vlaicu - lanseaza primul avion din lume fuselat aerodinamic.
See also Rolland Garos and other Santos-Dumont financed … French aircraft … and … so… on …

? 1910 Tache Brumarescu - masina de taiat sulf.
So what? The Austrians have invented the sowing machine before that. So what. The English invented the automated knitting machines before that. So what?

? 1910 Stefan Procopiu - efectul circular al discontinuitatilor de magnetism.
Bohr-Procopiu magneton … amazing participation to highly sophisticated physics. An excellent one …

? 1910 Gh. Marinescu - tratamentul paraliziei generale.
Close but no cigar! It was alive and well in America before 1900 …

? 1910 Henri Coanda reuseste primul zbor al unui avion cu reactie (fabricatie proprie).
Correct!!! First and foremost, it is now being recognized as the first air-reactive engine (jet) aircraft, making its first and only flight October, 1910. ... in Paris (not Romania, of course).


? 1910 Ioan Cantacuzino - ? fenomenul Cantacuzino? (aglutinarea unor microbi).
How about this? First experiments with streptococcal agglutination Paul Moser and Bensaude, Le phenomene de l'agglutination des. microbes. Carre, Paris 1897. ...

? 1913-1916 Ioan Cantacuzino - vaccinarea antiholerica (metoda Cantacuzino)
Pasteur was known as the father of stereochemistry, but his contributions to microbiology and medicine were greater. Pasteur discovered anaerobic bacteria and two silkworm diseases. It was he who discovered that if you take a microbe that causes a particular disease, for instance, smallpox, and make a weakened form of it, that weakened smallpox microbe can be used to fight off the stronger smallpox microbes. Doctors now inoculate people against all kinds of diseases and, for a time, had almost eradicated smallpox. Pasteur also invented the anthrax vaccine, the cholera vaccine, and the rabies vaccine. He died in 1895.

? 1916 D. Danielopolu - actiunea hipertensiva a digitalei.
The man credited with the introduction of digitalis into the practice of medicine was William Withering. Withering was born in Wellington, Shropshire, England in 1741. He followed in the medical footsteps of his father who was an apothecary-surgeon. Withering received his MD degree in 1766. As an individual, William Withering was an extremely giving person. He would personally see and treat two or three thousand poor patients a year limiting him to making about 1000 British pounds as compared to his contemporary doctors who made 5000 British pounds per year. Withering published about 19 articles during his lifetime. After fighting a long battle with tuberculosis, William Withering, the father of digitalis medicine, died on October 6 1799, at the age of 58.

? 1918 Gogu Constantinescu - întemeiaza o noua stiinta: sonicitatea.
Correct but not in Romania; in England where he educated himself and become a teacher of physics. Had he stayed in Romania he would have done nothing like most of us …

? 1919 Stefan Procopiu - unitatea elementara de energie magnetica (magnetonul).
Same as above, verry good!!!

? 1920 Emil Racovita - pune bazele Institutul de Speologie Cluj (primul din lume).
First in the world is tough to prove!!!

? 1920 ing. Gheorghe Botezatu - a calculat traiectoriile posibile Pamânt - Luna, folosite la pregatirea programelor ?Apollo? (al caror parinte a fost sibianul Herman Oberth); el a fost si seful echipei de matematicieni care a lucrat la proiectul rachetei ?Apollo? care a dus primul om pe Luna.
About the calculations Earth-Moon you must be kidding.
Herman Oberth also started Hitler’s V1 and, by the way, hated Romania and wrote to German leadership to dump Romania as an ally …

? 1921 Aurel Persu - automobilul fara diferential, cu motor în spate (de forma ?picaturii de apa").
Could be but it does not work …

? 1921 Nicolae Paulescu - descopera insulina; pentru ca era un anti-mason virulent, Premiul Nobel l-au primit canadienii F. Banting si J.R.J. McLeod pentru aceasta descoperire?
It should already be clear that 1920 comes before 1921 but anyway … there were others also …
1908 German scientist, Georg Zuelzer develops the first injectible pancreatic extract to suppress glycosuria; however, there are extreme side effects to the treatment.
1010-1920 Frederick Madison Allen and Elliot P. Joslin emerge as the two leading diabetes specialists in the United States.
1913 Allen, after three years of diabetes study, publishes Studies Concerning Glycosuria and Diabetes, a book which is significant for the revolution in diabetes therapy that developed from it.
1919 Frederick Allen publishes Total Dietary Regulation in the Treatment of Diabetes, citing exhaustive case records of 76 of the 100 diabetes patients he observed, becomes the director of diabetes research at the Rockefeller Institute.
July 1, 1920 Dr. Banting opens his first office in London, Ontario. He receives his first patient on July 29th; his total earnings for his first month of work is $4.00.

? 1921 Stefan Procopiu - Fenomenul Procopiu (depolarizarea luminii).
May be …

? 1922 C.Levaditi si Sazevac - bismutul ca agent terapeutic împotriva sifilisului.
Bullshit!!!
Syphilis was treated with mercury or other ineffective remedies until World War I (1914-1916), when effective treatments based on arsenic or bismuth were introduced. These were succeeded by antibiotics after World War II.


? 1925 Traian Vuia - generatorul de abur cu ardere în camera închisa si cu vaporizare instantanee.
Vuia was a great engineer, but when he tried to patent his airplane the Arsenal in Romania threw him out and he had to go to France to find forward looking people to fund his invention … Now we want him! La placinte innainte, la razboi innapoi …

? 1930 Elie Carafoli - avionul cu aripa joasa.
Bullshit!!!
Zdenek Lhota - Czechoslovakia – 1925 - flew the BH-11 low-wing monoplane.
Albert W. (Al) Mooney - chief engineer at Alexander (1928-1929) was responsible for the Bullet, an advanced, high speed, low wing monoplane. With Mooney's patented retractable landing gear, it was a mild sensation and ahead of its time.

? 1933 Henri Coanda - aerodina lenticulara (farfuria zburatoare).
? 1938 Henri Coanda - efectul Coanda.
? 1938 Henri Coanda - discul volant.
The Coanda Effect is a real Romanian contribution to the progress of science. All good!!! But again in England, not in Romania. That should tell anyone something …

? 1952 Ia fiinta Institutul National de Geronto-Geriatrie ?Dr. Ana Aslan", primul institut de geriatrie din lume, model pentru tarile dezvoltate, prin asistenta clinica si cercetare. ?Ana Aslan? are, anual, mii de pacienti.
A big lie …and a lot of word of mouth phony advertising …

Exagerarea contributiei noastre la motorul societatii umane ii face pe unii romani sa creada ca, de buni ce suntem, n-avem nimic de schimbat, iar ceilalti sa ne pupe ...

Sarcina celor ce publca e sa corecteze asta.

Dan Manoliu
Canada
"sufletul o fi nemuritor si vesnic(ceea ce e un pleonasm)"athos, - de DESTIN la: 15/01/2005 18:40:39
(la: SUFLETUL ESTE NEMURITOR)

Daca tu numesti pleonasm...unde incadrezi mai precis acasta idee?

PLEONASM [16c: from Latin pleonasmus, Greek Pleonasmós ('more-ness') excess, redundancy].
A traditional term for the use of more words than necessary, either for effect, or more usually as a fault of style, and any instance of that use, as in: Could you repeat that again? rather than Could you say that again? or Could you repeat that?; They both got one each rather than


They both got one or They got one each; That's a more superior product (superior already denotes 'more'); It's a really new innovation (an innovation is already new).
Some common pleonasms attract little comment, such as free gift (gifts are by definition free) and plans for the future (plans cannot be about the present or past).
Many famous writers have been pleonastic, including Shakespeare's double superlative 'The most unkindest cut of all' (Julius Caesar).

Bibliography:

1992 The Oxford Companion to the English Language.

Cu bine,

Cine se teme de suferinta...va suferi de teama.
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Theresa Neumann - de Cassandra la: 25/08/2006 13:14:32
(la: Intrebari pentru atei)
Exista doua tipuri de atitudini in legatura cu acest 'caz' si in general cu situatiile similare de fenomene paranormale:

- Cei care VOR sa creada in miracole nu au nici cea mai mica urma de scepticism si atitudine critica, nu cauta ADEVARUL ci numai pseudo-argumente care sa le intareasca credinta. Unicele dovezi ale acestora vor fi de tipul 'asa credea si cutare...'care a scris o carte despre asta, intimplarea facind ca 'cutare' sa fie alta 'personalitate' inclinata spre gindirea magica si care nu aduce nici o dovada obiectiva care sa sprijine respectivele 'miracole'.

- Cei care vor sa afle adevarul abordind situatia cu o minima doza de scepticism. Acestia vor cauta in primul rind dovezile verificabile care sa sustina asa zisele miracole in legatura cu persoane ca TN, si iata cum cautindu-le am constatat ca nu exista. Intregul fenomen s-a produs pe parcursul a 35 de ani si in tot acest timp nu exista martori oculari de incredere care sa fi vazut de exemplu cum singele realmente curgea in mod activ din diferitele parti ale corpului lui TN sau cum ii apareau stigmele. Teresa s-a opus toata viata sa unei investigatii riguroase in legatura cu fenomenele paranormale care o afectau ceea ce a facut ca Biserica Catolica sa nu recunoasca nici un miracol in toata povestea. E normal, BC se respecta si nu-si permite sa-si puna semnatura pe fenomene in favoarea carora nu exista cea mai mica dovada obiectiva ci doar CREDINTA unora:

An enormous amount of miraculous phenomena were attributed to the "Stigmatised of Konnersreuth", Therese Neumann. The most impressing being allegedly living without food over decades until her death. Therese Neumann was repeatedly requested by the relevant church authorities, to supply a proof for this miracle and to let herself be monitored some weeks in a hospital. But each time this was rejected without compromise. Therefore the bishop's office in Regensburg communicated on December 10. 1937, that "the church authority, holds no responsibility that the claimed living without food is real and concerning the character of the other extraordinary events in Konnersreuth".

Se pare ca TN era o femeie extrem de bolnava diagnosticata initial de isterie si personalitate multipla care a fost 'tratata' de un preot, astfel incit putin cite putin psihopatia sa a capatat caractere 'mistico-religioase'. Credinciosii zonei au fost foarte atenti sa pastreze misterul 'miracolelor ' sale dar realitatea se pare este ca nu e vorba de nici un miracol ci doar de distorsionari ale realitatii, ca in cazul pretinsei sale 'reveniri' dupa orbire. In realitate, consemnarile medicilor care au examinat-o au fost: "Using an ophthalmoscope was impossible because every attempt to do so immediately resulted in violent twitching of the whole body and disturbances of consciousness." All attempts failed; every time a light beam penetrated into a "blind" eye, "epileptic cramping" started. The medical opinion of the physicians treating her stated that at that time the eyes of the female patient answered "each incident of light with a narrowing of the pupil the way each healthy eye does". Therefore one can conclude that here one has a psychologically, rather than an organically caused blindness. .
Nu este intimplator ca refuzul unei investigatii stiintifice este comun in toate cazurile asa zise miraculoase.

The question interesting the Bavarian church is: is it true, as claimed, that Therese Neumann has taken no substantial food since 1926. and nothing but a daily Holy Communion wafer since 1927? Only once since then has Fraulein Neumann submitted to examination, and then by four nuns and a physician who it is admitted may well have been prejudiced in her favor. It became known last fortnight that the Bavarian Bishops' Conference had asked Therese Neumann's father to permit an examination for a month or six weeks. The bishops were interested in the fast alone, not in the stigmata and other mystical phenomena which they felt could never be satisfactorily explained by medical examination. Herr Neumann declined, objecting that his daughter would be exposed to "foreign influences and . . . uncongenial surroundings." The news of the negotiations between the bishops and Herr Neumann was made public by accident. Embarrassed, the Bishop of Regensburg was obliged to admit that it was so, that he wished an examination of Therese Neumann in a hospital, under scientific auspices. (Time, 9 ian 1933)

Asa ca hgrancea cind spui: Ar fi totusi interesant de vazut si ce spun alti autori despre aceste cazuri..., iti dau dreptate. Ar fi interesant sa vedem si alte rezultate stiintifice ale examinarii riguroase a Teresei Neumann. Din pacate, eu nu am gasit niciunul, si se pare nici nu mai exista. Concluzie, crezi daca ai nevoie dar nu-ti mai lua ca aliat stiinta numai atunci cind crezi ca iti convine. ;)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,753597,00.html
http://www.indian-skeptic.org/html/hanauer/swindle-of-konnersreuth-contents.html

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.

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bine ca - de PROUDFRECKLED la: 17/07/2007 20:13:35
(la: Fuck, ce faza!)
totul se intimpla in spatele usilor inchise ca s-ar gasi cineva sa ne interzica statul pe vine.Cit despre drepturi ,intrudere, nu esti la curent ,dar pina una alta noi avem de luptat.Aici http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15531249/GT1/8717/
am cistigat noi,oarecum,de fapt trebuiau distruse nu expuse:( si ia uite ce se mai pregateste:)
"PISSER CORRECTEMENT
Young women in Sweden, Germany, and Australia have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from concerns about hygiene --"avoiding the splash factor" -- but, as Jasper Gerard reports in the English Spectator, "more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women."
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paula, - de PROUDFRECKLED la: 19/11/2011 14:22:49 Modificat la: 19/11/2011 14:29:53
(la: Vă prezint o « viperă » băgăcioasă)
asa ca daca imi va spune cineva de aici de exemplu vaca voi lua -o ca pe un compliment.

constat ca nu prea cunosti limba romana. :) Intelesul unei fraze nu-l distorsionezi la mica intelege.

"Profanities not related to sex
Comparison with animals is another common way of insulting people in Romanian. Scroafă, a word meaning "sow", is often used in the same sense as the English bitch. Men can be insulted with the term bou meaning "ox". Other animals that can be used for insulting people include: goose (gâscă, usually used for women), donkey (măgar), and pig (porc)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_profanity
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The Da Vinci Code' si ideea Feminitatii Sacre - de a rose la: 08/05/2005 18:12:34
(la: Codul Da Vinci (Da Vinci Code))
buna duda

am dat peste anuntul tau si am citit si ceva din celelalte de pe site.
eu una nu stiu pretul acestei carti in tara, I am just now reading the book in English(eu am inceput sa citesc cartea in engleza deoarece sunt bilingva). pot sa-ti spun ca mi-a fost cumparata din Londra, am platit doar 6 lire sterline si 99 pence, ceea ce face aprox. 7 lire( intre 350.000-370.000 lei) si nu pretul de 18-19 euro(in jur 650.000lei), pret pe care l-au platit cei care au achizitionat-o din tara, un pret exorbitant in comparatie cu cat se vinde ea in UK. Iar daca stii engleza,eu una te sfatuiesc sa citesti cartea in limba originala.

Eu sunt acum la mijlocul ei, nu stiu cat anume din toata informatia este adevarat sau nu, dar un singur lucru stiu ca aceasta carte a facut milioane de oameni sa citeasca mai mult, sa se documenteze si sa nu creada totul cu ochii inchisi. Aceasta carte asa cum a fost scrisa(dupa unii extraordinar de bine, dupa altii 'pathetic') face pe multi sa-si puna o multitudine de intrebari, sa se informeze si sa incerce sa realizeze ei,insisi, ce e adevarat si ce nu.

E mare lucru ce a facut Brown cu aceasta carte deschizand ochii multor oamenilor, trimitindu-i la Biblie(pe care multi din pacate nu o citesc) si la ideea ca aceasta carte nu a cazut din Cer, ci ca EA a fost scrisa de oameni(multi pretinzand ca de barbati, eliminand idea feminitatii sacre, femeia ea care concepe viata in pantecul sau si fara de care aceasta lume nu ar exista, femeia care a fost inlaturata si ponegrita milenii de-a rundul), de muritorii de rand mai mult sau mai putin subiectivi sau obiectivi, aceasta carte trimitite cititorii la istoria 'Istorie'si la istoria 'Artei' si la stiinta, trimitandu-ne la medicina si la omul Vitruvian al lui Da Vinci, apoi la simbolism, intelesul unor cuvinte care peste secole s-a deteriorat, cuvinte si simboluri care avand cu milenii in urma conotatii pozitive, au astazi conotatii negative sau invers, cuvinte si simboluri care avand cu milenii in urma conotatii negative, au astazi conotatii pozitive.

Eu una cum am spus nu am terminat inca cartea, dar stiu de acum ca e mult de citit si mult de aprofundat pentru a-mi da raspunsul la propriile-mi intrebari pe care mintea mea le proceseaza acum pentru mine, insami.

Cu cateva saptamani inainte de a achizitiona aceasta carte, urmarind, BBCworld, anumite programe, privind, confictele mondiale dintre diferite tari la diferite colturi indepartate ale lumii si problemele sociale mondiale, mi-am pus o simpla intrebare la care sper sa gasesc raspuns candva:

-----De ce majoritatea razboaielor si conflictelor si varsarea de sange suferinta anumitor natiuni in istoria trecuta si prezenta care se face sub ochii nostri au fost si sunt cauzate de puterea masculina, de barbati, care ei, insisi, prin natura lor umana, prin decizia lui DUMNEZEU, nu au fost inzestrati cu marele har de a concepe viata in pantecul lor?

Masculinitatea e cea care nu poate concepe viata in trupul ei in schimb o poate distruge? Cine da acest drept? Oare dorinta bunului Dumnezeu asta a fost, ca Masculinitatea sa conduca aceasta lume? Poate bunul Dumnezeu a incercat de milenii,dupa moartea si reinvierea lui Hristos sa transmita un alt mesaj!'-------Poate.. mesajul ca Barbatul si Femeia sunt egali si ca cea care concepe in pantecul sau VIATA, perpetuand Umanitatea este Femeia si nu Barbatul!si ca aceasta putere sublima este una pe care Masculinitatea nu o va avea niciodata!Cui a lasat Hristos cu adevarat responsabilitatea de a forma BISERICA si de a duce cauza Divina mai departe?Feminitatii Sacre sau Masculinitatii?---------Aceasta carte da un raspuns, pe care unii il considera defaimator la adresa Bisericii, si NU la adresa lui Hristos! si pe care altii il apreciaza si elogiaza.

Exista multe intrebari care asteapta raspunsuri in mintea umanitatii! Si poate raspunsul adevarat toti il vom afla la momentul stingerii vietii fiecaruia!
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'The Da Vinci Code' si ideea 'Feminitatii Sacre' - de a rose la: 08/05/2005 18:29:17
(la: Codul Da Vinci (Da Vinci Code))
Buna 'duda'

am dat peste anuntul tau si am citit si ceva din celelalte de pe site.
eu una nu stiu pretul acestei carti in tara, I am just now reading the book in English(eu am inceput sa citesc cartea in engleza deoarece sunt bilingva). pot sa-ti spun ca mi-a fost cumparata din Londra, am platit doar 6 lire sterline si 99 pence, ceea ce face aprox. 7 lire( intre 350.000-370.000 lei) si nu pretul de 18-19 euro(in jur 650.000lei), pret pe care l-au platit cei care au achizitionat-o din tara, un pret exorbitant in comparatie cu cat se vinde ea in UK. Iar daca stii engleza,eu una te sfatuiesc sa citesti cartea in limba originala.

Eu sunt acum la mijlocul ei, nu stiu cat anume din toata informatia este adevarat sau nu, dar un singur lucru stiu ca aceasta carte a facut milioane de oameni sa citeasca mai mult, sa se documenteze si sa nu creada totul cu ochii inchisi. Aceasta carte asa cum a fost scrisa(dupa unii extraordinar de bine, dupa altii 'pathetic') face pe multi sa-si puna o multitudine de intrebari, sa se informeze si sa incerce sa realizeze ei,insisi, ce e adevarat si ce nu.

E mare lucru ce a facut Brown cu aceasta carte deschizand ochii multor oamenilor, trimitindu-i la Biblie(pe care multi din pacate nu o citesc) si la ideea ca aceasta carte nu a cazut din Cer, ci ca EA a fost scrisa de oameni(multi pretinzand ca de barbati, eliminand idea feminitatii sacre, femeia ea care concepe viata in pantecul sau si fara de care aceasta lume nu ar exista, femeia care a fost inlaturata si ponegrita milenii de-a rundul), de muritorii de rand mai mult sau mai putin subiectivi sau obiectivi, aceasta carte trimitite cititorii la istoria 'Istorie'si la istoria 'Artei' si la stiinta, trimitandu-ne la medicina si la omul Vitruvian al lui Da Vinci, apoi la simbolism, intelesul unor cuvinte care peste secole s-a deteriorat, cuvinte si simboluri care avand cu milenii in urma conotatii pozitive, au astazi conotatii negative sau invers, cuvinte si simboluri care avand cu milenii in urma conotatii negative, au astazi conotatii pozitive.

Eu una cum am spus nu am terminat inca cartea, dar stiu de acum ca e mult de citit si mult de aprofundat pentru a-mi da raspunsul la propriile-mi intrebari pe care mintea mea le proceseaza acum pentru mine, insami.

Cu cateva saptamani inainte de a achizitiona aceasta carte, urmarind, BBCworld, anumite programe, privind, confictele mondiale dintre diferite tari la diferite colturi indepartate ale lumii si problemele sociale mondiale, mi-am pus o simpla intrebare la care sper sa gasesc raspuns candva:

-----De ce majoritatea razboaielor si conflictelor si varsarea de sange suferinta anumitor natiuni in istoria trecuta si prezenta care se face sub ochii nostri au fost si sunt cauzate de puterea masculina, de barbati, care ei, insisi, prin natura lor umana, prin decizia lui DUMNEZEU, nu au fost inzestrati cu marele har de a concepe viata in pantecul lor?

Masculinitatea e cea care nu poate concepe viata in trupul ei in schimb o poate distruge? Cine da acest drept? Oare dorinta bunului Dumnezeu asta a fost, ca Masculinitatea sa conduca aceasta lume? Poate bunul Dumnezeu a incercat de milenii,dupa moartea si reinvierea lui Hristos sa transmita un alt mesaj!'-------Poate.. mesajul ca Barbatul si Femeia sunt egali si ca cea care concepe in pantecul sau VIATA, perpetuand Umanitatea este Femeia si nu Barbatul!si ca aceasta putere sublima este una pe care Masculinitatea nu o va avea niciodata!Cui a lasat Hristos cu adevarat responsabilitatea de a forma BISERICA si de a duce cauza Divina mai departe?Feminitatii Sacre sau Masculinitatii?---------Aceasta carte da un raspuns, pe care unii il considera defaimator la adresa Bisericii, si NU la adresa lui Hristos! si pe care altii il apreciaza si elogiaza.

Exista multe intrebari care asteapta raspunsuri in mintea umanitatii! Si poate raspunsul adevarat toti il vom afla la momentul stingerii vietii fiecaruia!
The Great Beyond - de Alina Momanu la: 29/09/2003 02:18:21
(la: Marele Eveniment)
E o promisiune, un pact facut cu sine insusi intr-o lume ciuntita in care esenta frumusetii s-a pierdut si in care numai suferinta a ramas, ca marturie ca viata inca mai exista, chiar si asa, pe dos.
Dar se va intampla la apus, martea viitoare. Nu maine, nu poimanine ci int-o MARTI, mai tarziu decat "in curand". Si apusul n-a fost niciodata simbolul Renasterii.
Va fi o calatorie aici, se va intampla Marea Trecere spre Dicolo.
Dar ...ia asculta-aici:
"Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin
...We’re both of us beneath out love, we’re both of us above
Dance me to the end of love..."
Pentru cel care isi plateste chiria in fiecare zi in The Tower of Song, fericirea e "dincolo", fericirea e un sfarsit.
Metafora unui vis...
"Dance me to the children, wh - de Daniel Racovitan la: 29/09/2003 09:23:43
(la: Marele Eveniment)
"Dance me to the children, who are askin' to be born / Dance me to the curtains, that our kisses have outworn / Dance me with your naked eye, be my homeward dove / And dance me, to the end of love" (citat aproximativ, din memorie)

"Dance me to the end of love" un cantec despre statornicia in dragoste pana la moarte. Videoclipul: fotografii de nunta din tinerete, vechi de zeci de ani, alternand cu imaginile unor batrani tinandu-se de mana pe culoarele unei case de batrani...

Versul "Dance me to their beauty, where they're burning violins" e o aluzie la crematoriile din lagarele naziste, la intrarea carora erau pusi detinutii sa cante la violoncele piese de camera, in timp ce nenorocitii erau arsi...

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Pai, in acord cu Oxford Engli - de relu la: 30/10/2003 11:49:38
(la: Telectualu' si studiile superioare)
Pai, in acord cu Oxford English Dictionary, o rubrica zice: "Possessing a high degree of understanding; given to pursuits that exercise the intellect." Adica, o persoana avind un nivel inalt de intelegere; o persoana angajata in activitati care exerseaza intelectul (mintea). Deci clar, ca nu trebuie sa ai studii superioare sa fii intelectual. Dar, as spune, ca cei care sint in cursul a orice studii, sint oarecum intelectuali, pentru ca isi exerseaza si isi imbunatatesc mintea. Poate ca nu au obtinut un nivel inalt de intelegere, dar, asta e. Un alt aspect este ca poti fii intelectual intr-o arie foarte ingusta, chiar expert mondial, si complet ignorant intr-o alta.
Just my 2c,
-R
"We are the kitschy girls, yo - de Catalin Francu la: 10/11/2003 12:33:38
(la: Cum ati defini kitsch-ul?)
"We are the kitschy girls, you are the kitschy boys, don't be shy, touch my bum..."
1. If the Gods Had Meant Us t - de ninel la: 11/11/2003 12:49:54
(la: Care sunt ultimele 5 carti pe care le-ati citit?)
1. If the Gods Had Meant Us to Vote, They'd Have Given Us Candidates by Jim Hightower (.../0060932090) - inca neterminata
2. The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Truth About Corporate Cons, Globalization and High-Finance Fraudsters by Greg Palast (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0452283914)
3. The Journey of Man : A Genetic Odyssey by Spencer Wells (.../0812971469)
4. The Seven Daughters of Eve by Bryan Sykes (.../0393323145)
5. Man Who Loved Only Numbers: The Story of Paul Erdos & the Search for Mathematical Truth by Paul Hoffman (.../0786884061)

Ultima carte citita de mine in limba romana cred ca a fost Maitreyi a lui Eliade, iar in franceza Fleurs du Mal a lui Beaudelaire (partial), amandoua acum mai bine de opt ani.
"History is the lie commonly - de mercondas la: 26/11/2003 07:31:56
(la: Istorie alternativa: cum ar fi fost daca ... ?)
"History is the lie commonly agreed upon," - Voltaire
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Andrei - de LMMagain la: 08/12/2003 08:40:29
(la: Ce este un gentleman? (o parere victoriana))
Desi este foarte frumos citatul ales de tine (si convingator)eu cind am spus ce am spus m-am referit strict la ce am citit sub linkul afisat de Daniel . Un mic fragment:
´´He (the gentleman) has too much good sense to be affronted at insults, he is too well employed to remember injuries, and too indolent to bear malice. He is patient, forbearing, and resigned, on philosophical principles; he submits to pain, because it is inevitable, to bereavement, because it is irreparable, and to death, because it is his destiny. If he engages in controversy of any kind, his disciplined intellect preserves him from the blunder. [From The Idea of a University, 1852]

Probabil citeva cuvinte mi-au influentat impresia generala, mai degraba barbat cu caracter slab decit un gentleman....Si acelea sint: inevitable,resigned, irreparable, destiny.......
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Motto: "Please don't feed the - de SB_one la: 26/02/2004 14:05:41
(la: Femeia)
Motto: "Please don't feed the troll"

Efectele statului la discutii cu un troll sunt irosirea timpului si nervilor. Utilizatorul de buna credinta dar nepus in garda ii poate cadea usor in plasa, spre distractia trollilor.

Un articol in romana ce va va lamuri ce urmareste acest soi de indivizi:
http://www.geocities.com/muntealb/ForumuriFlacari.htm

Puteti citi si Portretul unui troll

Articolul in engleza, cu o definitie detaliata:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Cel in franceza se gaseste aici:
http://www.uzine.net/article1032.html?var_recherche=troll

Aceste articole va vor permite sa-i puteti recunoaste pe acesti "paraziti ai forumurilor", si sa evitati sa le cadeti in plasa.

Lectura placuta, si nu uitati: "nu hraniti troll-ul"...
Metoda cea mai eficienta de a-l starpi e sa-l ignori


PS
1°motive ptr. care am banat ptr. 5 zile la acest subiect pe Belazur si enigmescu. Vad ca lor nu le plac nici subiectele serioase si nici bancurile: Concluzia: Sint Trollllli.

Daca am gresi( nimeni nu e perfect...) va asteptam aici peste 5 zile cu contributzii proprii.
2° Se mai anuntza cineva ptr. "actziunea" asta?


SB
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Infinitul e mare, mai ales catre sfirsit.
(W. Allen)
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In nici un caz Lord Of The Ri - de gabriel.serbescu la: 01/03/2004 12:59:14
(la: Oscar, file de poveste)
In nici un caz Lord Of The Ring, si cu atat mai putin 11 premii.
E deja premiat nu filmul american, ci industria de film americana.

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The Passion of Christ!! de Mel Gibson - de anita47 la: 02/03/2004 04:25:28
(la: The Passion of Christ!! de Mel Gibson)
In cate "conferinte" noi va fi discutat acest subiect?

anita47

Vezi subiectul de mai jos,deschis pe 15/02/2004:

"Filmul "The Passion of the Christ" si antisemitismul "



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