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The dark side of the moon - de Dinu Lazar la: 12/11/2005 16:44:29
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Ce mai primesc eu pe mail de la o agentie... ce tari suntem...


Request Title: Black Sea Cruise

Deadline: 11/14/2005

Picture Format: Portrait OR Landscape

Editorial or Advertising: Editorial

License Type: Rights Managed OR Royalty Free images

Color: Color OR Black & white images

Image Description /Details: Hi Everybody.

We are currently searching high end travel imagery for the travel catalog of the World’s most exclusive Cruising Ship, the MS EUROPA. October next year, they will travel from Istanbul into the Black Sea / they will be in the gorgeous places of the Black Sea at Yalta, Sevastopol, Sotschi, Odessa as well as Varna and Nesebur / Bulgaria.

The images going into this catalog must have

- a clear emotional message

- an exclusive, extraordinary image speech

- no tourists, no hotels, not "too much"

Please do not send pictures from Romania – nobody wants to go there.
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Mea culpa! - de Dinu Lazar la: 14/11/2003 05:51:03
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Pe omu` respectiv il cheama Spencer Tunick. Se gasesc pe web multe poze realizate de el.

Coincidenta este ca domnia sa a fost motivul unui schimb de replici in lista de discutii Fotopro, intre mine si un fotograf american, mai putin prezent pe net - pentru ca uraste computerul - si anume Bruce Esbin.

Intii imi scrie Bruce:


Spencer Tunick, he is the DUDE!!! When someone is able to get 450
naked women to pose for them in Grand Central Station in NYC, then they are the greatest photographer in the world. Until someone is
able to do this on the Moon then his title will remain.


La care eu raspund:

> I am very curious to see what pictures it have made...
> His site is ... I have not words... go here:
> It is an idiot... This pictures are made by a groggy man... I cannot
> believe.

> Best regards,
> Dinu
La care Bruce:

Though I was making a joke about Tunick being the "world's greatest
photographer". All joking aside however I do think he is a great
photographer, and I'll tell you why. Photography as you know is just a
tool that allows people to see many different things in a two
dimensional world, a world that despite being two dimensional still
enables us to experience the image on a high information level.

For me the genius of what Tunick does is showing the Homo-Sapien
species as group of animals without the usual protective barrier of
clothing in different and varied environments. Very interesting
environments at least for me. Buenos Aires, New York City, Antarctica,
Vienna, St. Petersburg, etc. all juxtaposed with a single naked human
form or in huge naked groups. It is strangely interesting because it is
something we would never see otherwise especially the groups. In that
sense it is art because it allows us to see something very unique and
thought provoking on the nature of being human.

Some people could say anyone with a camera could take a picture of a
naked person outdoors, and they would be right, however let them try
and go through the effort to organize the large groups of people and
get the permission of international city governments as Tunick
succeeded in doing. So for me Tunick is far from being an "idiot" or a
"groggy man". For me he is a genuine artist with a nice sense of humor who is exploring the human form in an interesting way through the use of photography.

Replica mea este:

> All that you write here is a good sense and true. Seeing so, it is OK.
> But... the light, the composition, the color, the perspective, the art?
> I need only a idea, only a concept? I do not need any professional sense of the light?
> I believe that you understand me...
> When I see a picture, I give in my mind notes for technique, art (
> composition) and idea.
> 0+0+10/3=3,3...

Si Bruce continua:

Sometimes the technique is secondary to the concept, sometimes the technique is the concept. What I've found refreshing with Tunick's photography is his relative lack of obvious technique, the almost snapshot like quality of his pictures, as if he just showed up accidently with a Ricoh G1 loaded with color negative film and just snapped a shot of this strangeness before him.
This is what gives it power, the utter banality of technique.


Asa ca si intre profesionisti parerile sunt impartite.
Succesul comercial al lui Tunick este insa imens.
Mie personal nu imi place ce face. Asta nu conteaza desigur.

Am vrut sa vedeti insa dincolo de usile inchise cam cum gindesc fotografii...sau unii dintre ei.

Dupa mine, talent este sa iei o cizma si sa o fotografiezi, si sa para mai atragatoare si mai sexy decit o playmate, nu sa umpli o gara cu o suta de femei goale si sa faci glamour.
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Look at yourself! LMC.... - de Little Eagle la: 25/06/2004 21:24:54
(la: Despre Alegerile din S.U.A.: De ce trebuie sa votam pt. GWB.)
Don't be concerned,I can take care of myself without!
I'm a big blown baby and I'm gonna suck you inside my own self.
To release myself?Are you talking about sex?You're quite nasty but exciting when you say..."I'm ready to take it all in"...I don't know exactly ..what did you try to say...but it's fine with me!I'll come to CA and believe me we can fuck all night long,I think you didn't have to much sex in the last months...maybe....YEARS?Oh babe you'll gonna take it ALL IN.And finally you'll like it!Wait 'till I go down between your legs and give you the best head you ever had!
At least 1 hour I'll lick you dry!

Iwent to the west a few times.I still have lots of friends there,some they'll move here in NJ because they ...hate CA and those ..shallow people like yourself,and mind you,they were born there and are americans,.not like you.
You're still a stranger here,you don't belong here darling.
Did you really have a one to one conversation with your self?Did you ask yourself if you belong here?
NO!You took everything for granted,like ...this land belongs to you...!Well,IT DOES NOT!!!

And you have the nerve to ask me that I am in the wrong way of thinking?
I will contact you only if you decide to have sex!!I mean if you want it!You'll never ever regret it!!!!I'll give you the moon and the stars,you'll have all the fireworks and beg for more
Would you like that?C'mon,I know you,after a week with me you'll become a
hindu!!You'll forget to be a republican anymore!You'll be what I want you to be.
When was the last time you had a great pussy lick?I mean,to the perfection????And then a good sex to last and last?
Or you know only...the missionarry position?When was the last time when a man threw you against the wall and ripped off your panties and grabbed you in his arms and fuck you like there is no tomorrow,or hitting your ass against the wall and meanwhile sucking your undies in his mouth????

I think you'll be a different woman if you'll get more laid and have a great fuck!!!!You'll start to love me and Spiderman,you'll love everybody!I think I found the secret!!!!YOU DON"T HAVE ENOUGH DICK!!!Hey,you know what?I'll pretend to my wife that I am going to San Diego at a comicon(comic book convention),Iwent in the past many times and I do have lots of good friends in CA.Nobody has to know.
I'll meet you,we'll go right on the beach at sunset and we'll have sex together
till sunrise,naked and have some fun in the ocean too.You tell me.
Why not?

This is the way to release myself and for sure I'm ready for you ANY TIME BABY!

Ozzy Osbourne(Hell is open for you any time now...)

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LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC,LMC - de Little Eagle la: 30/06/2004 22:22:36
(la: Vreti sa se intoarca Ozzy la
"Back in black,I hit the sack
I've been too long,I'm glad to be back,
Yes,I'm let loose from the noose,
That's kept me hanging about
I've been looking at the sky
'Cause it's getting me high
Forget the hearse'Cause I never die,
I got nine lives,cat's eyes,
Abusing everyone of them and running wild

'Cause I'm back in black,yes I'm back,well I'm back
I'm back in black,yes I'm back in black.
Cred ca nu e nevoie sa spun cui apartin aceste lyrics,trebuie ca toata lumea a auzit de AC/DC,nu?????
So I'm baaackk,back in black.

E greu sa scapati de mine si nici eu de voi...deh,love is so strong!!!!!
Ma iubeste cineva din voi?I'm just a problem child.
I am hot,and when I'm not,I'm cold as ice......

Am scris azi si ieri destule sa acord 2 zile,poate 3 in plus daca Admin ma cenzureaza caci asta observ acum,nu mai scriu.

Magdalena,Ti-am raspuns de cateva ori....ti-am dat si tel mele sa avem o conversatie,nu mai depinde acum de mine ci de Admin,este the middleman si daca vrea publica,daca nu sunt dat afara.

Nu stiu de ce trebuie oare sa publice un mic text?Ori acum de cand sunt considerat un ..rebel yell se citesc textele mele printre randuri???????Poate e ascuns un mesaj rau?ca in acele mesaje inverse:????
What's next to the moon Admin?????Chiar asa rau am devenit?????Si Hagi a luat cartonase galbene si totusi lumea il iubeste inca.

Sper sa publici textele mele curand,sa stiu de voi toti.
fax 1-732-290-2542


Ps:My girl ,ieri am dat un scurt interview la ora8AM la airradioamerica,la show-ul lui Mark Marin&mark Riley.L-am bestelit pe Bush ca toata tzara m-a auzit.L-am comparat cu Ceausescu,2 dictatori,sambata va fi repeat deci poate ma vei auzi la radio.
Am mers in NYC unde au statia si era si ...Slick Willie acolo!!!!!!Am dat mana cu el,era sa-si faca reclama la cartea lui,fusese si luni.

Hey,cine-i faimos in cafenea?????Ozzy!!!!!
Love you sis,
Soon,and forgive me again,I'm a bad boy boogey.

Admin get cracking si pune-te pe tiparit la textele mele,primele sa fie....HA!!!!!
Trebuie sa ma ajung din urma alerg pe mine insumi ori alerg de unul singur???

Adios machukambos

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"Garcia Márquez's Farewell to His Friends" - de Florin si atat la: 28/08/2004 22:04:59
(la: Avem timp)
Poezia de mai sus imi aduce aminte de
"Garcia Márquez's Farewell to His Friends"

Initial atribuita lui Garcia Machez, a fost o pacaleala. Detaiile le puteti gasi la:

If for a moment God would forget that I am a rag doll and give me a scrap of life, possibly I would not say everything that I think, but I would definitely think everything that I say.
I would value things not for how much they are worth but rather for what they mean.
I would sleep little, dream more. I know that for each minute that we close our eyes we lose sixty seconds of light.
I would walk when the others loiter; I would awaken when the others sleep.
I would listen when the others speak, and how I would enjoy a good chocolate ice cream.
If God would bestow on me a scrap of life, I would dress simply, I would throw myself flat under the sun, exposing not only my body but also my soul.
My God, if I had a heart, I would write my hatred on ice and wait for the sun to come out. With a dream of Van Gogh I would paint on the stars a poem by Benedetti, and a song by Serrat would be my serenade to the moon.
With my tears I would water the roses, to feel the pain of their thorns and the incarnated kiss of their petals...My God, if I only had a scrap of life...
I wouldn't let a single day go by without saying to people I love, that I love them.
I would convince each woman or man that they are my favourites and I would live in love with love.
I would prove to the men how mistaken they are in thinking that they no longer fall in love when they grow old--not knowing that they grow old when they stop falling in love. To a child I would give wings, but I would let him learn how to fly by himself. To the old I would teach that death comes not with old age but with forgetting. I have learned so much from you men....
I have learned that everybody wants to live at the top of the mountain without realizing that true happiness lies in the way we climb the slope.
I have learned that when a newborn first squeezes his father's finger in his tiny fist, he has caught him forever.
I have learned that a man only has the right to look down on another man when it is to help him to stand up. I have learned so many things from you, but in the end most of it will be no use because when they put me inside that suitcase, unfortunately I will be dying.

e bine sa studiezi mai mult... - de spirit_intelept la: 10/10/2004 07:38:33
(la: Gregorian Bivolaru - MISA, guru şi servicii secrete)
Draga mya,

ultimul tau reply mi s-a parut destul de amuzant. Inclusiv acum, cand raspund la el, zambesc :). Hai sa le luam pe rand:

1. Cu atributele pe care ti le-am acordat, de orgolioasa, inflexibila etc ti-am mai scris un reply. Dupa ultimele tale post-uri, as mai putea sa adaug la cele ce am scris atunci inca niste observatii care vin in sprijinul acestei etichetari pe care ti-am facut-o. Mai nou am impresia ca din pacate chiar iti imbogatesti repertoriul de calomnii la adresa mea (de ex sfarsitul reply-ului tau), ceea ce evident nu-ti face cinste in nici un fel. Chiar si felul in care ai raspuns la comentariul lui vajra, in care acesta a prezentat la un mod deosebit anumite realitati spirituala, te pune intr-o situatie proasta. Se pare ca oricate argumente, nume de maestri spirituali, etc...ti-ar aduce cineva in sprijinul tantrei, la tine toate acestea "s-au mai auzit deja". Te dai singura ca exemplu de inchistare mentala.

2. Dupa cum ti-ai dat si tu seama "aparenta mea dificultate de logica" de fapt a venit din faptul ca am considerat ca stiai deja faptul ca Krishna intr-adevar a avut viata sexuala chiar foarte bogata. Acum imi dau seama nu numai ca nu stiai acest lucru, ba chiar negi asta. Inainte sa incepem o polemica pe aceasta tema, am sa-ti explic anumite faze din viata lui Krishna, care arata intensul lui erotism chiar de la varste fragede.
De ex cand era mic si le-a surprins pe gopi-uri facand baie dezbracate, le-a ascuns hainele si nu le-a returnat decat atunci cand acestea, lasand sfiala la o parte, au venit pe mal sa-l implore a le da hainele inapoi. Intr-o prima faza chiar ele isi ascundeau cu o mana nuditatea, dar Krishna nu le-a facut pe plac decat atunci cand gopi-urile au inceput sa-l roage cu ambele maini...asta era in copilaria lui. De fapt gopi-urile erau asa de uimite de aceste fapte ale lui, care majoritatea aveau un substrat specific sexual, incat nici macar nu mai stiau cum sa reactioneze.
Cand Krishna a crescut mai mare, scrierile sacre indiene (Vishnu-purana, Bhagavata-purana, Harivansa, Narada-Pancharatra si Brahma-Vaivarta) ne relateaza adevarate episoade erotice in care era implicat Krishna:
With a young, new moon sailing untroubled through the balmy autumn nights, Krishna felt playful and exuberant . . . sometimes, stirred on by pleasurable emotions, he sported with girls from the camp through the dark, warm nights. The girls ecstatically drank in his countenance as if it were the moon come to earth. With his bright arm bands and wild flower garlands, Krishna's glowing presence made all Vraja glow. Entranced by his graceful ways, the girl herders greeted him joyously as he strolled about. They pressed their full, swelling breasts against him, their eyes darting about. Eluding the restraint of mothers, fathers, and brothers, the pleasure drunk girls dashed through the night to his side. Forming a row, they sang praises of his deeds, each girl striving to outdo the others . . . Their limbs were soon covered with dust and dung as they struggled to satisfy Krishna, like excited female elephants topped by an aroused bull elephant. With wide eyes beaming with love, the deer eyed girls thirstily drank in their lover's dark form. Then others had their chance to find pleasure in his arms. When he sighed with pleasure, the girls joyously echoed his melodious sounds. Their hair, once carefully bound and parted, lay strewn about as they fell back fulfilled, stray hairs caressing the nipples of their breasts. On many a moonlit autumn night, Krishna and the herder girls joined in these revels, amusing themselves in delicious play.
(citat din Harivansa)
Daca vrei, iti mai pot oferi asemenea citate din carti sacre indiene precum si din comentariile unor mari indianisti.
Deci draga mya, mi s-a parut amuzant cand tu ca sa combati tantrismul l-ai adus in discutie chiar pe Krishna care, asa cum am mai spus, este o incarnare (avatar) a aspectelor de iubire si fericire din fericire pentru noi iubirea divina nu inseamna doar a privi stelele ci si capacitatea noastra de face dragoste la un mod sublim.

3. Oricum, din ultimul tau comentariu remarc faptul ca esti intr-o stare de 3 ori ai spus ca nu vrei sa-ti raspund sau sa iti explic anumite aspecte. Eu am sa urmez totusi adevarul, asa cum este el prezentat in scrierile traditionale, si in masura in care va fi necesar am sa-ti raspund si in continuare.

Spirit Intelept
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daniel :=) - de anisia la: 11/11/2004 16:38:39
(la: Ce melodie iubiti acum?)
leonard cohen? da!!!! si eu sunt fan. melodia preferata este "I'm your man!" cuvintele comment!

If you want a lover,I'll do anything you ask me to.
And if you want another kind of love, I'll wear a mask for you.
If you want a partner, take my hand
Or if you want to strike me down in anger
here I am, I'm your man.

If you want a boxer, I will step into the ring for you.
And if you want a doctor, I'll examine every inch of you.
If you want a driver, climb inside.
Or if you want to take me for a ride,
you know you kan, I'm your man.

Ah, the moon's to bright.
The chain too tight.
The beast won't go to sleep.
I've been running through these promises to you that I made and could not keep.
But a man never got a woman back, not by begging on his knees.
Or I'd crawl to you baby and I'd fall at your feet.
And I'd hawl at your beauty like a dog in heat.
And I'd claw at your heart,
And I'd tear at your sheet.
I'd say please, please, I'm your man.

And if you've got to sleep a moment on the road,
I will steer for you.
And if you want to work the street alone
I'll disappear for you.
If you want a father for your child,
or only want to walk with me a while across the sand,
I'm your man.
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Can you believe it... they put a man on the moon? - de Ciprian Strugariu la: 14/03/2005 18:02:33
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
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tot morrison - de teo_05 la: 23/06/2005 10:34:59
(la: Cele mai frumoase poezii)
An American Prayer

Do you know the warm progress under the stars?
Do you know we exist?
Have you forgotten the keys to the Kingdom?
Have you been borne yet and are you alive?

Let's reinvent the gods, all the myths of the ages
Celebrate symbols from deep elder forests
(Have you forgotten the lessons
of the ancient war?)

We need great golden copulations

The fathers are cackling in trees of the forest
Our mother is dead in the sea

Do you know we are being led to slaughters by placid admirals
and that fat slow generals are getting obscene on young blood

Do you know we are ruled by T.V.
The moon is a dry blood beast
Guerilla bands are rolling numbers in the next block of green vine
amassing for warfare on innocent herdsmen who are just dying

O great creator of being
grant us one more hour to perform our art
and perfect our lives

The moths and atheists are doubly divine and dying
We live, we die
and death not ends it
Journey we more into the Nightmare
Cling to life our passion'd flower
Cling to cunts and cocks of despair
We got our final vision by clap
Columbus' groin got filled with green death

(I touched her thigh and death smiled)

We have assembled inside this ancient and insane theatre
To propagate our lust for life and flee the swarming wisdom of the streets
The barns are stormed
The windows kept
and only one of all the rest
To dance and save us
With the divine mockery of words
Music inflames temperament

(When the true King's murderers are allowed to roam free
a 1000 magicians arise in the land)

Where are the feasts we were promised
Where is the wine
The New Wine (dying on the vine)

resident mockery
give us an hour for magic
We of the purple glove
We of the starling flight and velvet hour
We of arabic pleasure's breed
We of sundome and the night

Give us a creed
To believe
A night of Lust
Give us trust in
The Night

Give of color
hundred hues
a rich Mandala
for me and you

And for your silky
pillowed house
a head, wisdom
and a bed

Troubled decree
Resident mockery
has claimed thee

We used to believe
in the good old days
We still receive
In little ways

The Things of Kindness
And unsporting brow
Forget and allow

Did you know freedom exists in a school book
Did you know madmen are running our prison
within a jail, within a gaol
within a white free protestant

We're perched headlong on the edge of boredom
We're reaching for death on the end of a candle
We're trying for something
That's already found us

We can invent Kingdoms of our own
grand purple thrones, those chairs of lust
and love we must, in beds of rust

Steel doors lock in prisoner's screams
and muzak, AM, rocks their dreams
No black men's pride to hoist the beams
while mocking angels sift what seems

To be a collage of magazine dust
Scratched on foreheads of walls of trust
This is just jail for those who must
get up in the morning and fight for such

unusable standards
while weeping maidens
show-off penury and pout
ravings for a mad staff

Wow, I'm sick of doubt
Live in the light of certain

Cruel bindings
The servants have the power
dog-men and their mean women
pulling poor blankets over
our sailors
(and where were you in our lean hour)
Milking your moustache?
or grinding a flower?
I'm sick of dour faces
Staring at me from the T.V.
Tower. I want roses in
my garden bower; dig?
Royal babies, rubies
must now replace aborted
Strangers in the mud
These mutants, blood-meal
for the plant that's plowed

They are waiting to take us into the severed garden
Do you know how pale and wanton thrillful
comes death on strange hour
unannounced, unplanned for
like a scaring over-friendly guest you've brought to bed
Death makes angels of us all and gives us wings
where we had shoulders smooth as raven's claws

No more money, no more fancy dress
This other Kingdom seems by far the best
until its other jaw reveals incest
and loose obedience to a vegetable law

I will not go
Prefer a Feast of Friends
To the Giant family

Great screaming Christ
Lazy Mary will get you up
upon a Sunday morning

"The movie will begin in 5 moments"
The mindless Voice announced
"All those unseated, will await
The next show"

We filed slowly, languidly
into the hall. The auditorium
was vast, and silent.
As we seated and were darkened
The Voice continued:

"The program for this evening
is not new. You have seen
This entertainment thru and thru.
You've seen your birth, your
life and death; you might recall
all of the rest -- (did you
have a good world when you
died?) -- enough to base
a movie on?"

An iron chuckle rapped our
minds like a fist.

I'm getting out of here
Where're you going?
To the other side of the morning
Please don't chase the clouds
pagodas, temples

Her * gripped him
like a warm friendly

"It's all right.
All your friends are here."

When can I meet them?
"After you've eaten"
I'm not hungry
"O, we meant beaten"

Silver stream, silvery scream,
impossible concentration

Here come the comedians
look at them smile
Watch them dance
an indian mile

Look at them gesture
How aplomb
So to gesture everyone

Words dissemble
Words be quick
Words resemble walking sticks

Plant them
They will grow
Watch them waver so

I'll always be
a word-man
Better than a birdman

But I'll charge
Won't get away
w/out lodging a dollar

Shall I say it again
aloud, you get the point
No food w/out fuel's gain

I'll be, the irish loud
unleashed my beak
at peak of powers

O girl, unleash
your worried comb

O worried mind

Sin in the fallen
Backwoods by the blind

She smells debt
on my new collar

Arrogant prose
Tied in a network of fast quest
Hence the obsession

Its quick to admit
Fats borrowed rhythm
Woman came between them

Women of the world unite
Make the world safe
For a scandalous life

Hee Heee
Cut your throat
Life is a joke

Your wife's in a moat
The same boat
Here comes the goat

Blood Blood Blood Blood
They're making a joke
of our universe

Are you more real than me
I'll burn you, and set you free
Wept bitter tears
Excessive courtesy
I won't forget

A hot sick lava flowed up,
Rustling and bubbling.
The paper-face.
Mirror-mask, I love you mirror.

He had been brainwashed for 4 hrs.
The LT. puzzled in again
"ready to talk"
"No sir" -- was all he'd say.
Go back to the gym.
Very peaceful

Air base in the desert
looking out venetian blinds
a plane
a desert flower
cool cartoon

The rest of the World
is reckless and dangerous
Look at the
Stag films

A ship leaves port
mean horse of another thicket
wishbone of desire
decry the metal fox
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scuzele pentru ortografie nu-s destule - de Dan Manoliu la: 23/06/2005 21:42:41
(la: "Ce bine e sa fi desptept si in acelasi timp si roman")
? 1827 - Petrache Poenaru, membru al Academiei Romane si unul dintre organizatorii învatamântului national inventeaza predecesorul stiloului modern: ?condei portaret, fara sfârsit, alimentându?se singur cu cerneala?
Homer had a long lasting writing pen made of reed.
Da Vinci drew improvements ..

? 1858 - Bucuresti - primul oras din lume iluminat cu petrol si prima rafinare a petrolului.
Romans had full streets in Rome lighted with torches and with heated sidewalks so that Roman ladies feet do not freeze …
Baltimore in 1816 was the first city to light its streets with gas. ...
Soon much of America, as well as other countries were lighted by gas
First oil refining was done in Ploiesti (not Bucuresti) by Enhlish engineers 1n 1856 … at the time when America found its first oil field … We were ahead here!!!

? 1880 - Dumitru Vasescu - construieste automobilul cu motor cu aburi.
In 1769, the very first self-propelled road vehicle was a military tractor invented by French engineer and mechanic, Nicolas Joseph Cugnot (1725 - 1804). Cugnot used a steam engine to power his vehicle, built under his instructions at the Paris Arsenal by mechanic Brezin. It was used by the French Army to haul artillery at a whopping speed of 2 1/2 mph on only three wheels. The vehicle had to stop every ten to fifteen minutes to build up steam power. The steam engine and boiler were separate from the rest of the vehicle and placed in the front (see engraving above). The following year (1770), Cugnot built a steam-powered tricycle that carried four passengers.

? 1881 Alexandru Ciurcu - obtine un brevet din Franta prin care prevede posibilitatea zborului cu reactie.
The earliest rockets were almost certainly Chinese—there is little doubt that the Chinese first developed “black powder,” the basic propellant used in rockets. The combination of salt-peter, charcoal, and sulphur was probably used in fireworks by the Chinese centuries before Christ lived, but the only written records available are dated well into the Middle Ages.
Mongols besieging the city of Kaifeng in 1232 used arrows propelled by rockets (though primarily as a psychological weapon).
Knowledge about rocketry seems to have moved with the Mongol invasions—the Arabs are seen as having developed rockets by the thirteenth century and are reported as having used them against Saint Louis in the Seventh Crusade; the Italians were experimenting with rockets by the fifteenth century. A major refinement in the formula for black powder was made in the thirteenth century by Roger Bacon; this resulted in the creation of gunpowder.
All of those people dreamt of sending people to the moon on the tail of a rocket … Even Cyrano de Bergerac (the real one) did that in a poem …
Conrad Hass (1551-1579), German, an artillery engineer and chief of arsenal of the town of Sibiu. Hass wrote about the construction and the flight tests of multistage rockets, apparently the earliest writings in existence about the science of rocket engineering. How about that???

? 1885 Victor Babes - realizeaza primul tratat de bacteriologie din lume.
May be correct partially… but Pasteur discovered every single entry from the Babes book…see below. I included some additional date for comparison and scale … The Babes Treaty is a list of the following discoveries … And Pasteur is one of many …
1839: Departure to the Royal College of Besançon 1840: Successful candidate for the literature baccalauréat in Besançon. Maître d'études at the College of Besançon 1842: Successful candidate for the mathematical sciences baccalauréat in Dijon 1843: Accepted at the Ecole Normale Supérieure in Paris 1845: Bachelor of Science 1846: Appointed physics professor at the Tournon high school (Ardèche), but stays on at the Ecole Normale Supérieure as a qualified demonstrator. Study of crystals 1847: Doctor of Science 1848: Appointed physics professor at the Dijon high school. Appointed substitute chemistry professor at the science university of Strasbourg.
Research on dimorphism. Historic paper on the distinction between sodium ammonium paratartrate and tartrate. 1849: Pasteur's wedding with Miss Marie Laurent, daughter of the Strasbourg University rector.
Research on the specific properties of the two acids that make up racemic acid. 1851: Paper by Pasteur on aspartic and malic acids. 1852: New research on relationships that can exist between crystalline forms, chemical composition and the direction of rotatory polarisation. 1853: Pasteur is made Knight of the Imperial Order of the Legion of Honour. He obtains the prize of the Pharmacy Society of Paris for the synthesis of racemic acid. Paper on the discovery of the transformation of tartaric acid into racemic acid, discovery of the optically inactive tartaric acid. 1854: Pasteur is nominated Dean of the University of Science at Lille. 1855: Beginning of studies on fermentation, presentation in Lille of a paper on amyl alcohol. 1856: Beginning of researches on alcoholic fermentation. 1857: Appointed administrator of the Ecole Normale and director of scientific studies of this school. Paper on lactic fermentation. Paper on alcoholic fermentation. 1858: Installation of his laboratory in the attic of the Ecole Normale in Paris, rue d'Ulm Survey by Pasteur on so-called "spontaneous" generations. 1859: Experimental physiology prize from the Academy of Science for his work on fermentations. 1860: Air sampling at Arbois to investigate the issue of so-called "spontaneous" generation. Examination of the doctrine of so-called "spontaneous" generation. 1861: Jecker prize from the Academy of Science for his work on fermentations. Publication in the bulletin of the Chemistry Society of Paris of all his results on vinegar.
1862: Election at the Academy of Science (mineralogy section). Studies on mycoderma and on the role of these plants in acetic fermentation. Alhumbertprize for his research on spontaneous generation. 1863: Napoléon III asks Pasteur to study wine diseases Studies on wine - the influence of air oxygen on vinification. Nominated Professor of Applied Geology, Physics and Chemistry at the National College of Fine Arts 1864: Installation of a laboratory at Arbois for his research on wine 1865: Practical process for improving wine conservation. Studies on silkworm diseases, work on pasteurisation. 1866: Publication of the paper "Studies on wine". Publication of an essay on the scientific work of Claude Bernard. 1867: Creation of a physiological chemistry laboratory at the Ecole Normale. Appointed Professor of organic chemistry at the Sorbonne. Great Prize from the Universal Exhibition for his studies on wine. Resignation from his administrative duties at the Ecole Normale. 1868: Degree as a medical doctor at the University of Bonn. Pasteur suffers from a stroke affecting his left side. Commander of the Legion of Honour. Publication of his studies on vinegar. 1870: Publication of his studies on silkworm diseases. 1871: Studies on beer. 1873: Elected Member of the Academy of Medicine 1876: Publication of his studies on beer. 1877: Paper on the alteration of urine. Studies on anthrax. Studies on septicaemia. 1878: Nominated Grand Officer of the Legion of Honour.
Publication of the paper "Germ theory and its applications to medicine and surgery". Papers on chicken cholera.
Research on gangrene, septicaemia and puerperal fever 1879: Paper on plague. Discovery of immunisation by attenuated cultures. 1880: Becomes Member of the Central Society of Veterinary Medicine. Paper on virulent diseases (Pasteur introduces the principle of attenuated-virus vaccines). Beginning of his research on rabies. 1881: Nominated Grand Cross Holder of the Legion of Honour. Anthrax vaccine. Work on yellow fever near Bordeaux.
Election to the French Academy. 1882: Paper on contagious pleuropneumonia of horned animals. Studies on swine erysipelas. 1883: Vaccination against swine erysipelas using an attenuated-virus vaccine. 1884: New communications on rabies. Communication on pathogenic microbes and attenuated-virus vaccines at the Copenhagen Congress. Pasteur presents the general principle of vaccinations against virulent diseases. 1885: First anti-rabies vaccination on a human being

? 1886 Alexandru Ciurcu - construieste prima ambarcatiune cu reactie.
It’s more complicated, Ciurcu e numai un participant … one of two; also, educated in France.
Desire and Victoire Piot (A late eighteenth century French engineer / inventor and the origins of the Vapour Pulse Jet) probably fled France on the out break of the Franco–Prussian war in 1870 finally arriving in London where he tested his first successful pulse jet boats. Desire Piot could well have been inspired by a rocket powered boat developed by Just Buisson and Ciurcu. Not so successful demonstrations of their jet boat on the river Seine in Paris took place from August to December 1886 for the benefit of the French Ministry of Defense.

? 1887 C. I. Istrate - Friedelina si franceinele.

? 1895 D. Hurmuzescu - descopera electroscopul.
Jean Antoine Nollet (1700–1770) was a clergyman and physicist. In 1748, Nollet invented one of the first electrometers, the electroscope, which detected the presence of electric charge by using electrostatic attraction and repulsion. Nollet later wrote a theory on electrical attraction and repulsion based on the existence of a continuous flow of electrical matter between charged bodies and became the the first professor of experimental physics at the University of Paris.
Many others including George Washington did the same before our guy … 1755 or so …

? 1899 C.I. Istrate - o noua clasa de coloranti.
Maybe …

? 1900 Nicolae Teclu - becul cu reglarea curentului electric si gaz.
Are you serious??? “Becul de labborator cu reglarea curentului de AER si gaz”; big difference!!!
How about Bunsen? Premix (meaning air and gas) burners were the first purpose-designed burners, and they can be traced back more than 100 years to the Bunsen and similar laboratory burners. A premix burner system really consists of two key components, the burner head or nozzle, and the gas-air mixing device that feeds it. In some cases they're built as a single unit. The mixer uses the energy of a pressurized stream of air and/or gas to mix the two and present them to the burner nozzle, which provides an ignition and anchoring point for the flame and controls its shape.

? 1904 Emil Racovita - fondatorul biospeologiei.
Absolutely correct!!!

? 1905 Augustin Maior - telefonia multipla.
AT&T 1902 … also Bell Laboratoryes …

? 1906, 18.03 - Traian Vuia - avionul cu tren de aterizare pe roti cu pneuri; cu ?Vuia I? acesta reuseste prima decolare fara sa foloseasca nici un mijloc ajutator, numai cu aparate aflate la bord (în fapt, primul avion din istorie).
Are you serious?
The first powered heavier-than-air flight took place in 1890 (Clement Ader, steam engine on bat-winged monoplane, 60 yards). The Wrights' 1903 flight (300 yards) was the first photographed heavier-than-air flight. [Correction: not quite true; there exist photos of Lilienthal's non-powered heavier-than-air flights in the 1890s.] After the advent of relatively light combustion engines (such as Benz, Otto, Diesel), other pioneers pursued similar approaches, but no photographs were taken by Richard Pearse (New Zealand, March 1903) and Karl Jatho (August 1903). Finally, the Wrights needed headwinds or catapults to start their planes, so they were not fully self-powered. But Brazil's Santos-Dumont was (1906, first official airplane flight).
Important stuff: Richard Pearse March 31, 1902. Accounts by witnesses of the flight vary, from "50 to 400 yards in length", but it seems most likely that it was around 350 yards long, and ending prematurely when the flying machine landed in a large hedge - 4 metres off the ground ! The aircraft was the first to use proper ailerons, instead of the inferior wing warping system that the Wright's used. The flying machine also had a modern tricycle type landing gear, thus negating the need for ramps, slides, or skids. Any suitable road would do. The flying machine was aerodynamically crude, for sure, but did the job on the day, and in fact for months afterwards. By the end of July 1903, Pearse had achieved flights of around one kilometre in length, and perhaps even more amazingly, some of them included turns ! An absolutely fantastic achievement for the time. Pearce also built the engine, which was estimated at about 15 - 22hp, but hampered by a much cruder propeller than the Wright's machine.

? 1906 A.A. Beldiman - aparatul hidraulic cu dalta de percutie pentru sondaje adânci.
Tough to prove!!!

? 1908 Lazar Edeleanu ? primul procedeu de rafinare a produselor petroliere cu bioxid de sulf din lume, procedeu care ii poarta numele.
A good one!!! Oil helped us a lot in the first half of last century.

? 1908 Acad. Nicolaie Vasilescu-Karpen - ?pila Karpen", care functioneaza înca si produce curent electric, neîntrerupt, de aproape 100 de ani!
William Grove produced the first fuel cell in 1839 over 150 years ago. He based his experiment on the fact that sending an electric current through water splits the water into its component parts of hydrogen and oxygen. So, Grove tried reversing the reaction - combining hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity and water. This is the basis of a simple fuel cell. The term “fuel cell” was coined later in 1889 by Ludwig Mond and Charles Langer, who attempted to build the first practical device using air and industrial coal gas.

? 1910 iunie - Aurel Vlaicu - lanseaza primul avion din lume fuselat aerodinamic.
See also Rolland Garos and other Santos-Dumont financed … French aircraft … and … so… on …

? 1910 Tache Brumarescu - masina de taiat sulf.
So what? The Austrians have invented the sowing machine before that. So what. The English invented the automated knitting machines before that. So what?

? 1910 Stefan Procopiu - efectul circular al discontinuitatilor de magnetism.
Bohr-Procopiu magneton … amazing participation to highly sophisticated physics. An excellent one …

? 1910 Gh. Marinescu - tratamentul paraliziei generale.
Close but no cigar! It was alive and well in America before 1900 …

? 1910 Henri Coanda reuseste primul zbor al unui avion cu reactie (fabricatie proprie).
Correct!!! First and foremost, it is now being recognized as the first air-reactive engine (jet) aircraft, making its first and only flight October, 1910. ... in Paris (not Romania, of course).

? 1910 Ioan Cantacuzino - ? fenomenul Cantacuzino? (aglutinarea unor microbi).
How about this? First experiments with streptococcal agglutination Paul Moser and Bensaude, Le phenomene de l'agglutination des. microbes. Carre, Paris 1897. ...

? 1913-1916 Ioan Cantacuzino - vaccinarea antiholerica (metoda Cantacuzino)
Pasteur was known as the father of stereochemistry, but his contributions to microbiology and medicine were greater. Pasteur discovered anaerobic bacteria and two silkworm diseases. It was he who discovered that if you take a microbe that causes a particular disease, for instance, smallpox, and make a weakened form of it, that weakened smallpox microbe can be used to fight off the stronger smallpox microbes. Doctors now inoculate people against all kinds of diseases and, for a time, had almost eradicated smallpox. Pasteur also invented the anthrax vaccine, the cholera vaccine, and the rabies vaccine. He died in 1895.

? 1916 D. Danielopolu - actiunea hipertensiva a digitalei.
The man credited with the introduction of digitalis into the practice of medicine was William Withering. Withering was born in Wellington, Shropshire, England in 1741. He followed in the medical footsteps of his father who was an apothecary-surgeon. Withering received his MD degree in 1766. As an individual, William Withering was an extremely giving person. He would personally see and treat two or three thousand poor patients a year limiting him to making about 1000 British pounds as compared to his contemporary doctors who made 5000 British pounds per year. Withering published about 19 articles during his lifetime. After fighting a long battle with tuberculosis, William Withering, the father of digitalis medicine, died on October 6 1799, at the age of 58.

? 1918 Gogu Constantinescu - întemeiaza o noua stiinta: sonicitatea.
Correct but not in Romania; in England where he educated himself and become a teacher of physics. Had he stayed in Romania he would have done nothing like most of us …

? 1919 Stefan Procopiu - unitatea elementara de energie magnetica (magnetonul).
Same as above, verry good!!!

? 1920 Emil Racovita - pune bazele Institutul de Speologie Cluj (primul din lume).
First in the world is tough to prove!!!

? 1920 ing. Gheorghe Botezatu - a calculat traiectoriile posibile Pamânt - Luna, folosite la pregatirea programelor ?Apollo? (al caror parinte a fost sibianul Herman Oberth); el a fost si seful echipei de matematicieni care a lucrat la proiectul rachetei ?Apollo? care a dus primul om pe Luna.
About the calculations Earth-Moon you must be kidding.
Herman Oberth also started Hitler’s V1 and, by the way, hated Romania and wrote to German leadership to dump Romania as an ally …

? 1921 Aurel Persu - automobilul fara diferential, cu motor în spate (de forma ?picaturii de apa").
Could be but it does not work …

? 1921 Nicolae Paulescu - descopera insulina; pentru ca era un anti-mason virulent, Premiul Nobel l-au primit canadienii F. Banting si J.R.J. McLeod pentru aceasta descoperire?
It should already be clear that 1920 comes before 1921 but anyway … there were others also …
1908 German scientist, Georg Zuelzer develops the first injectible pancreatic extract to suppress glycosuria; however, there are extreme side effects to the treatment.
1010-1920 Frederick Madison Allen and Elliot P. Joslin emerge as the two leading diabetes specialists in the United States.
1913 Allen, after three years of diabetes study, publishes Studies Concerning Glycosuria and Diabetes, a book which is significant for the revolution in diabetes therapy that developed from it.
1919 Frederick Allen publishes Total Dietary Regulation in the Treatment of Diabetes, citing exhaustive case records of 76 of the 100 diabetes patients he observed, becomes the director of diabetes research at the Rockefeller Institute.
July 1, 1920 Dr. Banting opens his first office in London, Ontario. He receives his first patient on July 29th; his total earnings for his first month of work is $4.00.

? 1921 Stefan Procopiu - Fenomenul Procopiu (depolarizarea luminii).
May be …

? 1922 C.Levaditi si Sazevac - bismutul ca agent terapeutic împotriva sifilisului.
Syphilis was treated with mercury or other ineffective remedies until World War I (1914-1916), when effective treatments based on arsenic or bismuth were introduced. These were succeeded by antibiotics after World War II.

? 1925 Traian Vuia - generatorul de abur cu ardere în camera închisa si cu vaporizare instantanee.
Vuia was a great engineer, but when he tried to patent his airplane the Arsenal in Romania threw him out and he had to go to France to find forward looking people to fund his invention … Now we want him! La placinte innainte, la razboi innapoi …

? 1930 Elie Carafoli - avionul cu aripa joasa.
Zdenek Lhota - Czechoslovakia – 1925 - flew the BH-11 low-wing monoplane.
Albert W. (Al) Mooney - chief engineer at Alexander (1928-1929) was responsible for the Bullet, an advanced, high speed, low wing monoplane. With Mooney's patented retractable landing gear, it was a mild sensation and ahead of its time.

? 1933 Henri Coanda - aerodina lenticulara (farfuria zburatoare).
? 1938 Henri Coanda - efectul Coanda.
? 1938 Henri Coanda - discul volant.
The Coanda Effect is a real Romanian contribution to the progress of science. All good!!! But again in England, not in Romania. That should tell anyone something …

? 1952 Ia fiinta Institutul National de Geronto-Geriatrie ?Dr. Ana Aslan", primul institut de geriatrie din lume, model pentru tarile dezvoltate, prin asistenta clinica si cercetare. ?Ana Aslan? are, anual, mii de pacienti.
A big lie …and a lot of word of mouth phony advertising …

Exagerarea contributiei noastre la motorul societatii umane ii face pe unii romani sa creada ca, de buni ce suntem, n-avem nimic de schimbat, iar ceilalti sa ne pupe ...

Sarcina celor ce publca e sa corecteze asta.

Dan Manoliu
Lipsa de informare sau, mai r - de pegaS la: 01/11/2005 10:45:51
(la: Violenta: un "modus vivendi"?)
Lipsa de informare sau, mai rau, dezinformarea sta la baza ideilor preconcepute iar comoditatea le alimenteaza. Ne creem propriile definitii, ne stabilim propriile repere si ne raportam la acestea dupa propriile principii... asta in masura in care ne rezumam la observare. Cand trecem la critica - fie ea pozitiva sau negativa - e de preferat s-o facem in cunostinta de cauza ceea ce nu e si cazul dv.
Acel cineva are o vaga idee vis-a-vis de Hiphop avand in vedere informatia nu tocmai corecta pe care v-a furnizat-o.
Hiphop-ul ESTE o cultura - as spune chiar cu un potential enorm - manipulata, din pacate, de ceea ce numim showbiz. Cele 4 elemente (5, in acceptiuni mai noi) sunt MCing sau Rapping (partea vocala), DJing (tehnica bazata pe scratching, sampling & mixing ce asigura fondul sonor alaturi de compozitii proprii), Graffiti si B-Boying (Breakdance).. cea de-a 5-a ar fi Beatboxing (studiul si aplicarea muzicii facute cu ajutorul partilor corpului).
Originile genului si variile sale aspecte sunt mult prea complexe pt. a le putea expune aici - cei interesati pot arunca o privire la - la fel ca si raspunsul la intrebarea ta. Nu putem vorbi de un raspuns concret - Hiphop-ul este, ca de altfel orice manifestare artistica, o forma de exprimare libera (cu tot ce implica aceasta). Poate fi contra violentei, o poate promova sau poate fi parte neutra. Contrar ideii incetatenite conform careia Hiphop-ul trateaza exclusiv probleme sociale exista destule exemple in care personalul, abstractul, liricul primeaza partea muzicala fiind, de asemenea, in ton cu textul.
Cine are rabdare sa citeasca s-o faca, cine nu sa lase balta subiectul...

"I can recite the grass on the hill and memorize the moon
I know the cloudforms of love by heart
And have brought tears to the eye of a storm
And my memory banks vaults of forests and amazon river banks
And i've screamed them into sunsets that echo in earthquakes
Shadows have been my spotlight
As I monologue the night
And dialogue with days
Soliloquies of wind and breeze applauded by sun rays
We put language in zoos to observe caged thought (...)"
Saul Williams - Wine

"I played connect the dots with your beauty marks
And I ended up with picture perfect sheet music
I read your musical notes with a composer's eyes
And heard out song for the first time
My spine is still tingling, mental images of your fine tune
Is what I've been nodding my head to lately
Every now and then you can catch me humming
Your nudity under my heavy breath
I heavily suggest you resurrect
Your ancient neglected dust collector
If you distrust the distance in my seldom plucked heart strings
Sit stripped before your full length
Perform your reflection backwards
Maybe then you will understand the rhythm in my movement
Listen when the news is sent
Extend when the rules are bent
I'll be waiting to take your leave
Make me a victim of your two step
Make me an apprentice of your body parts
Teach me to dance to your beauty marks
I'm stepping on toes here and I don't care
It's hopeless, it's hopeless
It's hopelessness holding this openess to blow a kiss
So close your lips but don't get pissed
And throw a fist at this vocalist
I'm not emotionless, in fact I broke my wrist
When I wrote the list of all those I miss
This is my poker face, Mister Feel Nothing"
Sage Francis - Hopeless

"(...)There's smoke in my iris
But I painted a sunny day on the insides of my eyelids
So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
I'm a dinosaur with Jones Beach in my hourglass
Passing the time with serial killer coloringbooks and bags of marbles
Don't tell me you ain't the droid that held the match to the charcoals
Don't tell me Lucifer and God don't carpool
(This is our school)
I'm not trying to graduate to life at the curse on the lounge barstool
Head in a jar on the desk, feet dangling in a shark pool
(Man please) Man please
My name stands for my being
And my being stands for the woman who stood
And braved the storm could raise this evening
(Brother sun, sister moon, mother beautiful)
Yeah middle sibling suitable but far from son of excellence
(...) And I ain't getting any younger
My knuckles wear their bruises well
I've yet to lose that hunger
But only time can tell
Prodigal Son with a prodigal wish to sew that prodigal stitch
And crucify bigot voodoo doll on two popsicle sticks
See your name is Ambiguity
My name is something hands can't hold
But hearts part ocean scapes just to watch the starlet unfold (...)"
Aesop Rock - Battery

Si exemplele pot continua...
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Copiii au plasticitate cerebr - de Cassandra la: 30/11/2005 23:58:03
(la: Accentul si integrarea in societate)
Copiii au plasticitate cerebrala, sint in etapa in care isi construiesc si stabilesc circuite, sinapse etc. care odata formate e mai greu sa le desfaci. Asa imi explic eu de ce copiii pot invata una sau mai multe limbi confundindu-se cu nativii tarii respective in timp ce la adulti e mai greu dar nu imposibil. Eu am auzit de persoane ambitioase care au studiat cu logopezi pentru a vorbi fara accent, si chiar si asa a fost greu.

Sint locuri in lume unde e mai bine sa nu se stie ca esti roman pentru ca esti imediat considerat delicvent. Deci pierderea accentului ar fi foarte importanta in astfel de cazuri. In regiunile cosmopolite nu conteaza prea tare daca ai sau nu accent. Oricum se pare ca majoritatea avem instinctul de a cauta originea unei persoane atunci cind simtim ceva "diferit" in legatura cu ea. Asa ca majoritatea avem tendinta in astfel de situatii sa intrebam " De unde esti?" Pe multi romani ii supara intrebarea dar adevarul este ca e ceva firesc.

Imi amintesc acum de filmul Man on the Moon cu Jim Carrey, in care facea rolul lui Andy Kaufman. Cind l-a intrebat Shapiro de unde era (din cauza puternicului accent rusesc pe care si-l compusese), el a raspuns "Din Caspiar". Intrigat Shapiro il intreaba unde e asta la care el raspunde "In Marea Caspica, era o insula. S-a scufundat". :)
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catalin, - de Scarlet la: 18/12/2005 19:34:15
(la: L-am gasit pe Dumnezeu, stii ce FANTASTIC e?)
poate si cassandra trece printr-o perioada de ateism, sau asteapta doar sa o convinga ceva , la fel ca altii multi oameni,
noi oamenii am putea fi spirite intrupate doar pt. placerea de a simti lucrurile pamantesti?
si atuncea inseamna ca spiritul nostru supravietuieste dupa moartea corpului?
sau am putea fi un experiment , a-ti vazut "man on the moon"?, un serial -pt. zeitatile din cer sa nu se plictiseasca?
atunci de ce avem un suflet? si nu suntem doar papusi?
sau Cineva ne-a dat si suflet si trup sa ne bucuram de ele , cu toate ca unul lupta impotriva celuilat tot timpul?
momentan ma surpinde ceea ce scriu acum, poate daca nu as fi scris nu mi-as fi continuat gindul pina la capat,
dar eu cred ca avem un rost, prea sunt toate potrivite ca sa fie pentru noi oamenii,de ce ar mai fi munti daca nu am putea sa-i escaladam, de ce ar mai fi luna daca nu am putea s-o admiram,etc....

"nu conteaza ceea ce vi se intampla,ci ceea ce faceti voi atunci cand vi se intampla"
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wintzy - de alex andra la: 13/01/2006 21:41:23
(la: Ce alegeti intre rock si manele)
"Lost without music in a world of noises"
cele doua "chestii" - ca pentru manele nu pot folosi termenul de muzica - nu pot fi alaturate. Nimanui nu-i da prin cap sa apropie manelele de Mozart. De ce le-am apropia de Pink Floyd ? Sunt la distante incomensurabile, ca de la pamant la dark side of the moon.
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salut alex andra!;) - de maimuta la: 17/02/2006 18:04:04
(la: Muzica)
dupa o zi de munca merit si eu sa ascult R.E.M - Man On The Moon;)
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maimuta si guinevere - Jefferson Airplaine - de alex andra la: 17/02/2006 20:09:20
(la: Muzica)
"Lost without music in a world of noises"

Salut, fetele:)
Ascult "Freedom".
Imi plac si R.E.M. (Man on the Moon, Everybody Hurts, Loosing my Religion))si Coldplay (Yellow, Parachutes, Fix You) si Maroon 5 (Songs for Jane).
Nu mai e soare demult, dar maine e o noua zi, isn't it?
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Sa va spun si eu citeva, asa - de Cassandra la: 19/02/2006 21:11:20
(la: Cele mai bune filme)
Sa va spun si eu citeva, asa cum imi vin in minte:

Great Lebowsky
Babette's feast
Shawshank redemption
Pele the conqueror
Under the sun
The graduate
Kramer vs Kramer
Tout le matins du monde
American beauty
As good as it gets
To kill a mokingbird
This boy's life
Mars attacks
Harold si Maud
Ed Wood
Miller's crossing
Splendor in the grass
Belle de Jour
Hotii de biciclete
Rosu de Kieslowsky
Odisea spatiala 2001
La dolce vitta
La strada
Out of Africa
Dersu Uzala
Blade Runner
Pulp fiction
Vertigo si Marnie (Hitchcock)
U turn
A Clockwork Orange
Some like it hot
The Alcatraz man
Man on the moon
The Piano
Mary Poppins
The sound of music
Wild at heart

SI multe altele. Am cam facut o varza :)

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Crash si altele - de Guinevere la: 16/03/2006 22:29:48
(la: Cele mai bune filme)
Am vazut Crash si mi s-a parut interesant, desi nu e genul de film pe care l-as vedea a doua oara. Intradevar e un pic exagerat si nerealist, dar asta nu ma deranjeaza neaparat la un film daca imi face placere. Mi s-a parut ca a avut un ritm putin monoton si nu a iesit in evidenta. Scenariul insa e interesant si cred ca doar el merita Oscarul, filmul in sine a avut sansa de a nu avea o concurenta extraordinara, ca in alti ani.
Imi plac filmele inspirate din realitate, ca The Aviator (primul fim in care mi-a placut Di Caprio!) sau Man on the Moon. Sau care surprind, ca Fight Club cu Eduard Norton si Brad Pitt, ori Truman Show cu Jim Carrey - un film serios cu Jim Carrey, fara strambaturi, dealtfel cred c-a luat si Oscarul in '98. Sunt multe... ma mir ca nu a spus nimeni nimic de Pacientul englez, sau poate ca n-am citit eu tot. :o)
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doctors - de Cassandra la: 08/04/2006 15:14:41
(la: de ce credeti in dumnezeu?)
Poate ca nu ai simtit nici o interdictie, dar ma intreb daca realizezi faptul ca aceasta lipsa de interdictie se datoreaza in primul rind cunoasterii stiintifice si a extinderii democratiei si a societatilor libere. Cu alte cuvinte, in prezent asistam la o libertate spirituala spre deosebire de trecut, cind a fi credincios insemna IN PRIMUL RIND a adera la dogma. Gindirea in afara Bisericii insemna condamnarea si marginalizarea sociala si chiar moartea. Religia dezumanizase oamenii spre "binele lor". Si asta continua sa fie valabil in societatile care se mentin si azi in secolul XXI in conditii medievale. In ziua de azi lumea are mai multa libertate in gindire, citeste carti cum sint "Codul Da Vinci", are o perceptie despre Isus mai mult ca OM decit ca divinitate, fara ca astfel de acte eretice sa fie condamnate si pedepsite cu strictete ca in trecut.

Inteleg necesitatea oamenilor de a fi religiosi si de a crede in divinitati, asa cum stiu ca exista oameni care nu au nevoie de divinitate, de acea fiinta suprema care sa le controleze actiunile si asigure linistea interioara si o conduita sociala morala. Ateu nu presupune nici o filozofie, fiecare ateu are propriul sistem de valori. A fi ateu nu inseamna neaparat a crede ca esti "perfect" sau "cea mai tare pe pamint", din contra multi atei in lumina cunoasterii stiintifice considera contrariul. Multi atei inteleg ca nu e corect sa "dea dovada de trufie nejustificata", ca "libertatea se intinde pina acolo unde atinge libertatea celui de linga noi" etc. fara nevoia de divinitate.

Cred ca libertatea spirituala a individului se cistiga in absenta unei fiinte supreme. Nu avem nevoie de pedeapsa cereasca pentru asta, nici de un "tatic" ceresc cu barba alba plin de autoritate si razbunator cind e vorba de "greselile" umane, care isi pierde vremea controlind actiunile fiecarui individ in parte. Eu cred ca nu este acesta mesajul lui Isus, Budha si a celorlalti iluminati ai istoriei. Toti acestia nu sint decit modele pe care sa le urmam pe calea iluminarii personale. In Budism exista o vorba: "Daca il intilnesti vreodata pe Buda pe 'drum', omoara-l" ceea ce vrea sa spuna ca Buda este o stare, aceea a desteparii spirituale si nu poate fi niciodata o fiinta in carne si oase, nici o statuie, o icoana sau credinta dogmatica. In mod similar exista multi credinciosi care l-au "ucis" in mod metaforic pe Isus, adica nu venereaza o fiinta, o icoana, o dogma ci exemplul acestuia, desteptarea spirituala pe care de fapt Isus o predica.

Invataturile crestine trebuie urmate nu pentru ca cineva a poruncit sa fim buni, sa facem bine, sa ne iubim dusmanii, sa raspundem la rau intorcind celalalt obraz etc, ci din dorinta de a urma exemplul celor care au gasit "lumina" in interiorul lor, de a ne destepta spiritual. Ei bine acest mesaj nu este inteles de marea majoritate a oamenilor, care se agata de interpretarea literala a scrierilor biblice si cu toate acestea rareori intilnim adevarati crestini (aceia care renunta la avere, intorc obrazul in fata injustitiei, isi iarta dusmanii, isi iubesc semenii etc). Acea revolutie spirituala la scara globala nu s-a produs prin Crestinism, este evident. Cred ca toate religiile transmit de fapt mesajul unui Dzeu abstract care reprezinta perfectiunea spirituala si nu al unui super-judecator care sta pe un tron inalt (desi imaginea aceasta apare in VT la un moment dat). Il vom gasi pe acest Dzeu privind in interiorul nostru si nu in afara unde in mod gresit il cauta majoritatea oamenilor.

Am mai vorbit despre frumusetea poeziilor scrise de poetii mistici cei care l-au gasit cu adevarat pe Dzeu. Poeti ca Sf Ioan al Crucii. Iata si un exemplu din poetul mistic indian Kabir care spunea ca dupa ce a citit toate scripturile, dupa ce s-a scaldat in toate apele sacre si i-a ascultat pe toti Brahminii, nu l-a gasit pe Dzeu. Acesta i-a aparut numai cind a privit in interiorul sau. Acesta fiind mesajul, este absurda rivalitatea intre religii ele de fapt incercind sa transmita in linii mari aceiasi idee de spiritualitate.
Iata un fragment dintr-o poezie de Kabir:

Do not go to the garden of flowers!
O Friend ! go not there;
In your body is the garden of flowers.
Take your seat on the thousand petals of the lotus,
and there gaze on the Infinite Beauty.


The moon shines in my body, but my blind eyes cannot see it:
The moon is within me, and so is the sun.
The unstruck drum of Eternity is sounded within me; but my deaf ears cannot hear it.
So long as man clamours for the "I" and the "Mine", his works are as naught:
When all love of the "I" and the "Mine" is dead, then the work of the Lord is done.
For work has no other aim than the getting of knowledge:
When that comes, then work is put away.
The flower blooms for the fruit: when the fruit comes, the flower withers.
The musk is in the deer, but it seeks it not within itself: it wanders in quest of grass.

Rezumind, Dzeu se afla in noi si diferitele religii (ateiste sau ne-ateiste) sint cai de a-l gasi in interiorul nostru. De a cauta perfectiunea spirituala.

"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived" Asimov
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Mops/ Om - de Guinevere la: 19/04/2006 21:05:57
(la: Despre agresivitate)
Pai noi il pupam si pe Om, cu care ne agresam de sar fulgii pana in conferintele vecine!
Numai ca trebuie pus jos mai intai, ca se lasa greu. De unde si luptele greco-romane. :oP
I se prinde obrajorul (cel care nu e lipid de podea, of course!) intre doua degetele si se rasuceste pana la inrosire, apoi se pupa cu foc si cu mult smooch. Smooooooooooooch!
Niciodata pe crestet, ca se duce lipiciul de la peruca! :oD

Omule, de ce oare imi reamintesti tu de wrestling si de Andy Kauffman (Ai vazut Man on the Moon?)?! :o)

Alex: eu il vad cam bosorog de la o vreme. Dar poate ca am scos eu periscopul aiurea! :o)
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