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women are like apples - de Horia D la: 20/01/2005 16:36:18
(la: Un nou forum: "Bancuri, glume, poante...")
Women are like apples on trees. The best ones are at the top of the
tree.
Most men don't reach for the good ones because they are afraid of
falling and getting hurt. Instead, they just take the rotten apples from the ground that aren't as good, but easy.

The apples at the top think something is wrong with them, when in
reality, they're amazing. They just have to wait for the right man to come along, the one who's brave enough to climb all the way to the top of the tree.

Now Men...men are like a fine wine. They begin as grapes, and it's up
to women to stomp the shit out of them until they turn into something
acceptable to have dinner with.



The things that come to those who wait are what's left behind by those
who got there first.
"Women are traps which lie in - de catalint la: 28/01/2006 12:10:44
(la: De ce te urasc)
"Women are traps which lie in wait for men everywhere, in order to drag them down into the Finite" Franz Kafka
Cam asta e concluzia.
le-ati citit? - de M.PAMFILIE la: 11/11/2003 14:49:43
(la: Care sunt ultimele 5 carti pe care le-ati citit?)

1 Matisse
2 Andy goldeworty
3 Hundertwasser-architectur
4 Women artists
5 Paulo Coelho-Alchimistul
Mea culpa! - de Dinu Lazar la: 14/11/2003 05:51:03
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Pe omu` respectiv il cheama Spencer Tunick. Se gasesc pe web multe poze realizate de el.

Coincidenta este ca domnia sa a fost motivul unui schimb de replici in lista de discutii Fotopro, intre mine si un fotograf american, mai putin prezent pe net - pentru ca uraste computerul - si anume Bruce Esbin.

Intii imi scrie Bruce:

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Spencer Tunick, he is the DUDE!!! When someone is able to get 450
naked women to pose for them in Grand Central Station in NYC, then they are the greatest photographer in the world. Until someone is
able to do this on the Moon then his title will remain.

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La care eu raspund:

> I am very curious to see what pictures it have made...
>
> His site is ... I have not words... go here:
> http://www.spencertunick.com/individuals.html
>
> It is an idiot... This pictures are made by a groggy man... I cannot
> believe.

> Best regards,
>
> Dinu
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La care Bruce:

Though I was making a joke about Tunick being the "world's greatest
photographer". All joking aside however I do think he is a great
photographer, and I'll tell you why. Photography as you know is just a
tool that allows people to see many different things in a two
dimensional world, a world that despite being two dimensional still
enables us to experience the image on a high information level.

For me the genius of what Tunick does is showing the Homo-Sapien
species as group of animals without the usual protective barrier of
clothing in different and varied environments. Very interesting
environments at least for me. Buenos Aires, New York City, Antarctica,
Vienna, St. Petersburg, etc. all juxtaposed with a single naked human
form or in huge naked groups. It is strangely interesting because it is
something we would never see otherwise especially the groups. In that
sense it is art because it allows us to see something very unique and
thought provoking on the nature of being human.

Some people could say anyone with a camera could take a picture of a
naked person outdoors, and they would be right, however let them try
and go through the effort to organize the large groups of people and
get the permission of international city governments as Tunick
succeeded in doing. So for me Tunick is far from being an "idiot" or a
"groggy man". For me he is a genuine artist with a nice sense of humor who is exploring the human form in an interesting way through the use of photography.
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Replica mea este:

> All that you write here is a good sense and true. Seeing so, it is OK.
>
> But... the light, the composition, the color, the perspective, the art?
>
> I need only a idea, only a concept? I do not need any professional sense of the light?
>
> I believe that you understand me...
>
> When I see a picture, I give in my mind notes for technique, art (
> composition) and idea.
>
> 0+0+10/3=3,3...

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Si Bruce continua:

Sometimes the technique is secondary to the concept, sometimes the technique is the concept. What I've found refreshing with Tunick's photography is his relative lack of obvious technique, the almost snapshot like quality of his pictures, as if he just showed up accidently with a Ricoh G1 loaded with color negative film and just snapped a shot of this strangeness before him.
This is what gives it power, the utter banality of technique.

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Asa ca si intre profesionisti parerile sunt impartite.
Succesul comercial al lui Tunick este insa imens.
Mie personal nu imi place ce face. Asta nu conteaza desigur.

Am vrut sa vedeti insa dincolo de usile inchise cam cum gindesc fotografii...sau unii dintre ei.

Dupa mine, talent este sa iei o cizma si sa o fotografiezi, si sa para mai atragatoare si mai sexy decit o playmate, nu sa umpli o gara cu o suta de femei goale si sa faci glamour.
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Take this waltz - de Daniel Racovitan la: 08/12/2003 03:47:22
(la: Cohen)
Uite o piesa, nush' dac'ai ascultat-o, e superbissima: "Take this waltz"... O pun pe picior de egalitate cu "Dance me..."
Un colaj de imagini halucinant, o [poezie] de [dragoste] deosebita:


"TAKE THIS WALTZ
--after Lorca

Now in Vienna there's ten pretty women
There's a shoulder where Death comes to cry
There's a lobby with nine hundred windows
There's a tree where the doves go to die
There's a piece that was torn from the morning
And it hangs in the Gallery of Frost
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
Take this waltz with the clamp on its jaws

Oh I want you, I want you, I want you
On a chair with a dead magazine
In the cave at the tip of the lily
In some hallways where love's never been
On a bed where the moon has been sweating
In a cry filled with footsteps and sand
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
Take its broken waist in your hand

This waltz, this waltz, this waltz, this waltz
With its very own breath of brandy and Death
Dragging its tail in the sea

There's a concert hall in Vienna
Where your mouth had a thousand reviews
There's a bar where the boys have stopped talking
They've been sentenced to death by the blues
Ah, but who is it climbs to your picture
With a garland of freshly cut tears?
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
Take this waltz it's been dying for years


There's an attic where children are playing
Where I've got to lie down with you soon
In a dream of Hungarian lanterns
In the mist of some sweet afternoon
And I'll see what you've chained to your sorrow
All your sheep and your lilies of snow
Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay
Take this waltz, take this waltz
With its "I'll never forget you, you know!"

This waltz, this waltz, this waltz, this waltz ...

And I'll dance with you in Vienna
I'll be wearing a river's disguise
The hyacinth wild on my shoulder,
My mouth on the dew of your thighs
And I'll bury my soul in a scrapbook,
With the photographs there, and the moss
And I'll yield to the flood of your beauty
My cheap violin and my cross
And you'll carry me down on your dancing
To the pools that you lift on your wrist
Oh my love, Oh my love
Take this waltz, take this waltz
It's yours now. It's all that there is."


Si iata si o comparatie cu poezia lui Lorca, dupa care Cohen spune ca s-a inspirat:
http://www.webheights.net/speakingcohen/waltz.htm
Tragedie in lumea fotografiei mondiale. - de Dinu Lazar la: 24/01/2004 04:49:16
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Helmut Newton, un mare fotograf, unul din cei mai mari ai tuturor timpurilor, ne-a parasit...
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/story.jsp?floc=FF-APO-1110&
dq=/ff/story/0001%2F20040123%2F1920444197.htm&sc=1110&
photoid=20031022NY130


Photographer Helmut Newton Killed in Crash

LOS ANGELES - Acclaimed fashion photographer Helmut Newton died Friday after his car sped out of control from the driveway of the famed Chateau Marmont hotel and crashed into a wall, police said. He was 83.

AP Photo

Newton, whose work appeared in magazines such as Playboy, Elle and Vogue, was best known for his stark, black-and-white nude photos of women.

Newton apparently lost control of his Cadillac while leaving the Hollywood hotel, said Officer April Harding, a police spokeswoman. It was unclear whether he became ill while driving.

People were on the sidewalk in front of the driveway, and the car brushed a photographer heading into the hotel before crashing into the wall.

Newton was taken by ambulance to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where he died a short time later, Harding said.

Newton was a trailblazer in the fashion photography world, exploring power, gender roles and an icy sexuality in his pictures.

His trademark "Big Nudes" series featured larger-than-life, black-and-white images of women that portray them as dominating the camera rather than as subjects.

Among the beautiful and powerful people Newton has photographed were Paloma Picasso, Pierre Cardin, Naomi Campbell, Jean-Marie Le Pen and Claudia Schiffer.

While Newton also photographed clothed celebrities and nature scenes, he favored photographing women, usually while they wore little more than high heels.

"He was a giant," said Playboy founder Hugh Hefner. "He was a major talent that pushed the boundaries in terms of photography and influenced many, many other photographers in following generations."

The German-born photographer said in his 2002 autobiography that when he was 15, he told his father he wanted to be a photographer. The Berlin factory owner told him, "My boy, you'll end up in the gutter. All you think of is girls and photos."

Newton, who was Jewish, fled his homeland for Singapore in December 1938, a month after Nazi-led persecution programs began. He eventually settled in Australia and became a citizen, opening a small photography studio and changing his last name to Newton from Neustaedter.

He later took up residence in Monte Carlo, overlooking the Mediterranean — a frequent backdrop for his nude images.

In the prologue to his autobiography, he said his fascination with women dated back to when he was a toddler and recalled seeing his nurse "getting ready to go out, and she is half-naked" in front of a mirror. He described it as a defining moment in his life.

In October, he donated more than 1,000 pictures to a new gallery in Berlin, saying he was proud his work would now be on display in his hometown.

Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder called Newton's decision a "sign of reconciliation."

"You can chase a man out of his home but you can't rip his home out of his soul," Schroeder said in a letter read at the news conference announcing the donation.

Newton's coldly erotic imagery often alarmed feminists as well as those with tamer sensibilities.

A hosiery ad he shot, featured on a giant billboard in Times Square for a time, was banned from the side of New York City buses in 1998 because it was deemed to be too racy. It showed a rear-end view of a woman lying face-down, wearing only a pair of stockings. A side view of her bare breast also was visible.

Newton is survived by his wife, June, who works under the name Alice Springs. She was also a favorite subject for the photographer. In one 1973 series of photos, she was portrayed as Hitler wearing a cropped mustache, with model Jerry Hall posing as Eva Braun. The Newtons had no children.


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Oil Change instructions for W - de SB_one la: 26/02/2004 14:07:15
(la: Femeia)
Oil Change instructions for Women

1. Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches 3000 miles since the last oil change.
2. Drink a cup of coffee. 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.
Money spent Oil Change $24.00 Coffee $1.00 Total $25.00


PS cine nu stie engleza, sa-l traduca in franceza sau romana ( danke)
SB
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Infinitul e mare, mai ales catre sfirsit.
(W. Allen)
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O conversatie sau cinii latra caravana trece - de Dinu Lazar la: 16/04/2004 01:11:54
(la: O conversatie cu DINU LAZAR, fotograf)
Onor foto grafii cafegii sunt invitati la to www.pdnonline.com!

Newswire:

-More than 750 photographers have signed a petition asking the Missouri School of Journalism and National Press Photographers Association to put aside their differences and work towards reuniting POYi and NPPA's Best of Photojournalism (BOP) contests.

-AFP photographer Patrick Baz gives us his observations from Baghdad, one year after a U.S. tank fired on the Palestine Hotel, killing two journalists. Because of the dangers Western journalists face covering Iraq's hot spots, Baz says a new generation of Iraqi photojournalists are emerging.

-ReflexNews photographer Shawn Baldwin describes a recent kidnapping at the hands of Shiite militiamen while on assignment in Iraq for the New York Times.

-Adam Moss, appointed editor-in-chief of New York Magazine in February, has made a bid to dramatically reshape the weekly's photography and design. Moss poached a photo editor from The New York Times Magazine and a design director from Travel + Leisure. In other news, ZUMA Press signs another photojournalist, Corbis adds to its assignment services department and lifestyle photographer Mats Rudels finds a new rep.

-In edit news, magazine publishers are scrambling to create new venues for the influx of automotive ad dollars. We have news on several new startups.

-With wedding season almost upon us, a number of stock and syndication outfits have tied the knot. PictureArts has acquired Nonstock's RM collection; Sipa has partnered with EPA; Queerstock has bonded with Retna and Imaginechina has hooked up with Taiwan's United Daily News Group.

-PDN and Canon are offering two upcoming educational events surrounding PDN's 30, a special issue showcasing the rising stars in photography. The first PDN's 30 seminar kicks off April 22 at San Francisco's Academy of Art College.

-The French Association of Women Journalists (AFJ) is calling for entries for the fourth annual Canon Female Photojournalist Award. The award includes a 8,000 Euro prize intended to help the winner complete a documentary project.

http://www.pdnonline.com


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Stiu ca astea's vechi dar sunt anti-misogin :)) - de Ly la: 27/04/2004 13:30:38
(la: Femeia)
Subject: wife vs husband!

A couple drove down a country road for several miles, not saying a
word. An earlier discussion had led to an argument and neither of
them wanted to concede their position. As they passed a barnyard of mules,
goats, and pigs, the husband asked sarcastically, "Relatives of
yours?"

"Yep," the wife replied, "in-laws."

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A husband read an article to his wife about how many words women use
a day... 30,000 to a man's 15,000.

The wife replied, "The reason has to be because we have to repeat
everything to men..

The husband then turned to his wife and asked, "What?"

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A man said to his wife one day, "I don't know how you can be so
stupid and so beautiful all at the same time.

" The wife responded, "Allow me to explain. God made me beautiful so
you would be attracted to me; God made me stupid so I would be
attracted to you!

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A man and his wife were having an argument about who should brew the
coffee each morning.

The wife said, "You should do it, because you get up first, and then
we don't have to wait as long to get our coffee."

The husband said, " You are in charge of cooking around here and you
should do it, because that is your job, and I can just wait for my
coffee."

Wife replies, "No, you should do it, and besides, it is in the Bible
that the man should do the coffee."

Husband replies, "I can't believe that, show me."

So she fetched the Bible, and opened the New Testament and showed him
at the top of several pages, that it indeed says...

"HEBREWS"
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Acum ca am restaurant ceva din balanta pe aici..... :)))


THE RED SPOT - de Horia D la: 29/04/2004 06:50:52
(la: Femeia)

Finally, now we know the meaning of the Red Spot:

For centuries, Hindu women have worn a red spot on their foreheads.
We have naively thought it had something to do with their religion.
The true story has just been revealed by the Indian Embassy in Washington.
When one of these women gets married, on her wedding night the husband scratches off the red spot to see if he has won a convenience store, a gas station, or a motel in Florida.
Toshiro Mifune/Sanjuro/Kurosawa - de Little Eagle la: 01/05/2004 19:05:26
(la: CICCIOLINA, actrita porno - o meserie ca oricare alta)
"Oh,dirty women,you'll always be around..."
zicea intr-un cintec Ozzy,mai pe la 1978.
Azi,am tot scris in nestire numai despre sex,drugs and alcohol si experiente personale.
Asa ca ii dau branci acum si pe acest subiect,oare mai conteaza din moment ce toata ziua aproape am tot vorbit despre sex?
Cicciolina,cindva era Okay,deh omul mai imbatrineste,obositi sau nu sanii ei
cred ca un mic gind ascuns tot a trecut prin mintea ta,nu?
NU am habar de prostitutia in Ro.Am pierdut si lumea de underground din NY
de mult,deci vorbesc acum din trecut.
In Ro.cind aveam 16 ani vindeam la liceu reviste porno si cu un amic fotografiam si copiam DUPA reviste sute de poze in ALB-NEGRU si apoi eu luam jumate ,el jumate si le vindeam la liceele noastre,faceam bani cu gramada.
Tot atunci am intilnit niste fete,3 la numar ce veneau acasa la mine si erau f. nebunatice sexual vorbind.Se culcau cu straini,arabi de la camine de studenti
ori turisti.Isi aveau locul unde le placea sa stea la mine acasa.
Intr-un fel ma iubeau in felul lor si oricind aveam chef de sex,toate 3 imi satisfaceau gusturile,de fapt doar 2,a 3a ii placea sa se uite si sa se masturbeze.
Nu le ceream nimic,deci NU eram un peste(pimp)dar ele se ofereau cu cadouri ce la acea vreme erau ceva RAR:blue jeans,tigari straine,bauturi,alte haine.
Chiar si $,aveam niste amici ce aveau relatii la Shop(cum era pe vremuri)si cu $ mei im cumparau orice vroiam .
In fapt aceste fete ce nu aveau mai mult de 16 ani erau prostituate,pe stil de regim comunist.
Aveam amici ce veneau sa ma vada la o vorba sau pahar si fetele isi vedeau de ale lor,asta ii mira pe ei f. mult,pt. ca ori erau goale prin casa,ori la oglinda,aveam una mare si se fardau se uitau la sani etc.
Uneori eram si eu gol cu ele si nu neaparat sa avem sex.
Mincam goi,faceam baie impreuna ne uitam la Tv goi.
In retrospect asta era viata mea de liceu,dar am avut si alte fete cu care nu ma comportam la fel.

In fine,aici in USA am cunoscut ceva prostituate in trecut,unele de mari clienti
(super fine)numite"escort ladies",altele mai de trotuar,mai ales la acea vreme,vorbesc de 1985 erau plasate catre Hudson River,intre 22-24Sts.
Mai in sus erau transvestites si gays.Azi nu mai stiu nimic,de 14 ani incopace si multe s-au schimbat oricum,cind Giulianni a fost primar al NY a terminat total cu faimoasa 42nd.St!!!
Am mai scris ca am cunoscut diversi oameni aici care erau bouncers la streap-tease clubs si datorita lor am putut avea sex pe gratis ori cite un blow job la marea arta.
Am fost in casele lor,unul era ruda cu famiglia Genovese....sa spun mai mult?
Altul era var cu cineva din Bonanno family.
Am mincat cu ei spaghete si aici opresc conversatia.
Da,azi si de 14 ani incoace imi dau seama ca prostitutia e in defavoarea fetelor,sint considerate carne si atita tot,imi pare rau pt. ele.Unele ce am cunoscut erau sensibile daca ma crezi si se gindeau la parinti si ca au facut un pas gresit plecind de acasa in orase mari si cazind in miinile unor pimps exploatatori.
Obisnuiam sa dau uneori cite o raita pe st.22 si unele fete ma stiau,le dadeam bani fara a cere sex de la ele.
Alteori imi spuneau"Please,let me give you a free one",uneori intram in vreun gang si aveam un hand job+blow job si tot le dadeam bani.
Am avut diverse boli ,e imposibil sa nu le capeti in cazul meu,dar m-a ferit Dumnezeu de cele grave!!!Mai o gonoree,o blenoragie si multe injectii in buci cu penicilina 1000.000 units,mai in buca stinga de nu puteam umbla,mai in dreapta,mai in ambele si eram la pat.
Deh!Cicciolina e Okay with me,nu am nimic impotriva pornografiei,de fapt avem nevoie de ea sa zic :to put some spices in our lives.
Ai avut vreodata sex privind tu si partenera ta un film porno?
E excitant si creste in imaginatie dar si mai mult in altceva.Ha!
Ai vazut pe viu 2 fete avind sex intre ele si tu privesti si apoi intri in sex cu amindoua?
E o experienta colosala sexual vorbind,daca ai sansa,te sfatuiesc sa o faci.
Prostitutia va exista la infinit,de vrem sau nu.
Ce real ma supara e traficul si naivitatea unor fete dar soarta decide drumul fiecaruia.Poti opri destinul acestor fete? NU!

In urma cu 14 ani as fi spus:I'll do Cicciolina anytime anyhour anywhere!!!
Azi sint total la extrema opusa,ciudat nu?
Parca am fost 2 persoane diferite in acelasi trup!Poate m-am maturizat in final.
Am sex cu sotia de 2 ori pe sapt si poate la 2 sapt. ma masturbez,am imbatrinit cred si eu si ea.La inceput,mama mia!!!!
Ciudat cum un om devine parca peste noapte un ...homeboy!
Dar mai vorbim alta data.

Nu stiu de ce dar am impresia ca voi deveni Howard Stern-ul cafenelei.Sa fie adevarat?

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy













































































Technical Ecstasy! - de Little Eagle la: 01/05/2004 20:50:45
(la: CICCIOLINA, actrita porno - o meserie ca oricare alta)
" The neon lights are shining on me again
I walk the lonely streets in search of a friend
I need a lady to help me to get through the night
If I could find one,then everything would be alright.

The sleepy city is dreaming the nigh time away
Out on the street I watch tomorrow becoming today
I see a man,he's got take away women for sale
yes for sale
Guess that's the answer
'Cos take away women don't fail...

Oh,dirty women,they don't mess around
You've got me coming
You've got me going around
Oh,dirty women
They don't mess around.

Walking the streets I wonder will it ever happen
Gotta be good then everything will be okay,
If I could score tonight then I will end up happy,
A woman for sale is gonna help me save my day."

Black Sabbath/Technical Ecstasy/1978

Lyrics&vocals- Ozzy Osbourne
Guitars- Tony Iommy
Bass- Geezer Butler
Drums-Bill Ward

Guest keyboards-Rick Wakeman

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy

I love you all,God bless you.






















Femeile - de Little Eagle la: 08/05/2004 18:04:16
(la: De ce nu sunt femeile niciodata multumite?)
Pe aici e o expresie:"you can live with them but you can't live without them".
John Lennon(God rest his great soul in peace)odata intr-un cintec al lui a spus
"The woman is the nigger of the world"...

Draga tty,
am cunoscut ...destule,multe chiar ce tu poate n-o sa ai sansa sa cunosti in numar si in altele,cam le cunosc destul de bine.
Ceea ce pot spune e ca nu toate sint din categoria de nemultumite.
Dar la fel,oare barbatii sint sau nu multumiti?
Sa nu gindim acum in sens unic.Parerea mea este ca femeia trebuie iubita si merita din plin asta.
Sint de partea lor mereu,iubesc femeile la nebunie,si nu neaparat in sensul sexual,am avut prea multe si nu mai am interes decit desigur in sotia mea.
Sint un homeboy de 14 ani,dar asta nu inseamna ca nu le ador,ele ca si noi
barbatii,pot fi fericite sau nu ori multumite sau nu,ceea ce cred e ca trebuie sa facem totul posibil pt. a le multumi si material si sexual si etc. etc.
Nu-s de pus la cratita si spalat rufe si altele,nu trebuie sa facem o distinctie,
consider ca trebuie sa fim egali cu ele.
Si sa le tratam cu respect si multa dragoste,iar cind ele cred ca nu gresesc niciodata si ar fi adevarat,incearca sa o faci sa inteleaga si nu face o mare dezbatere caci va duce la nervi si cearta,ceea ce nu e deloc necesar.
Nu-si are rostul.lasa de la tine,vei vedea ca singura isi va da seama ca a gresit.
Si in plus ce importanta are o greseala si o nemultumire?Nu se mint singure,
Sint destule alte lucruri in viata ce creaza discomfort si nu e neaparat legat de relatia conjugala sau de amicitie etc.
Traim o vreme de tensiuni psihice si politice si altele in plus ce creeaza stress-ul in fiecare.Tu nu vrei sa faci femeia iubita mai stressata decit e si fi calm mereu,pt. ca daca esti calm vei face multe!

In final,nu e vorba doar de femeie ca e nemultumita,cu totii pe acest glob sintem nemultumiti de ceva.Pt. ca nu sintem cu real fericiti inca.
Vei vedea si la milonari nemultumire si la femeile lor,ca si la cei saraci,la partide politice si la lupta pt. putere si interese personale.
In religii la fel,care mai de care se crede cea unica,restul sint false=nemultumire si frustratii ce duc la mari greseli si istoria le stie.

Omul e nemultumit din nastere,sa nu dam vina doar pe femei!
Eu personal le pun pe piedestal si ma inchin lor pt. ca le iubesc f. mult si daca sint nemultumite voi face tot posibilul sa aflu de ce si cum sa le pot face fericite,daca ele sint fericite si eu sint fericit.

Atit deocamdata,fetelor de oriunde in lume va iubesc mult si va ador indiferent de culoare ,religie si filozofie a vietii sau orientare sexuala.
Si personal nu cred am ajuns...intimplator sa traim impreuna si sa procreem doar!Sintem acelasi suflet si trebuie sa fim impreuna nu doar pt. sex dar si pt. a fi prieteni.

La fel cred si suport women liberation,sint pro choice.
Sa incetam a le considera pe o treapta inferioara,sintem cu totii egali in orice drepturi.Si am incheiat aici.

Daca incerci,vei descoperi ca femeile daca sint nemultumite,este din cauza noastra,a barbatilor,pt. ca sintem prea egoisti.Si nu trebuie sa acceptam mai ...usor ceea ce vine!Creaza-ti un ideal f. mare si greu de implinit si vei ajunge sa-ti creezi idealul initial la care aspiri si in final totul va fi okay.

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy





















































Ode to all women - de Little Eagle la: 08/05/2004 18:51:17
(la: De ce nu sunt femeile niciodata multumite?)

" Our life together is so precious together
We have grown,we have grown
Although our love is still special
Let's take a chance and fly away somewhere alone

It's been too long since we took the time
No-one's to blame,I know time flies so quickly
But when I see you darling
It's like we both are falling in love again
It'll be just like starting over,starting over.

Everyday we used to make it love
Why can't we be making love nice and easy
It's time to spread our wings and fly
Don't let another day go by my love
It'll be just like starting over,starting over.

Why don't we take off alone
Take a trip somewhere far,far away
We'll be together all alone again
Like we used in the early days
Well,well,well darling

It's been too long since we took the time
No-one's to blame,I Know time flies so quickly
But when I see you darling
It's like we both are falling in love again
It'll be just like starting over,starting over.

Our life together is so precious together
We have grown,we have grown
Although our love is still special
Let's take a chance and fly away somewhere..."

Lyrics and song-John Lennon

Draga tty,ti-am raspuns la subiect.

LOVE&PEACE,
Ozzy






















the ways of leaving - de Little Eagle la: 18/05/2004 23:20:15
(la: Farewell brothers and sisters)
Dear Brother Destin(a good name,Great Spirit Wakan Tanka ti l-a dat fara sa stii),

Am gandit in acest weekend trecut sa mai stau o vreme cu voi toti si sa mai fumam putin tobacco,dar am incalcat legea.Legea noastra.Peste acest weekend trecut am gandit ca mai pot ramane dar nu o pot face, azi si ieri am scris ultimele texte si ...Destin-ul a ales pe tine sa fii ultimul care va primi ultimul meu text,e scris asa si este menit sa fie asa,the eagle flies free my brother,you can't stop his wings...

Azi ,si este noapte cu stele,ele mi-au vorbit,a fost vant putin si cateva picaturi de ploaie,am stat in gradina si gandit la Marele Spirit,mi-a vorbit si am plans din nou,lacrimi si picaturi de ploaie pe obrajii mei.
Mi-a spus prin Creatia toata ca trebuie sa plec si tu esti ultimul WARRIOR care va purta cuvantul LUI prin mine.

Imi pare sincer rau,toti din cercul cafenelei imi sunteti mai mult decat dragi,NU va imaginati nici in vise cat de mult va iubesc pe toti deopotriva,imi sunteti frati si surori si mereu ma voi gandi cu dragoste la voi toti.

M-ati injurat,m-ati indragit,ori m-ati considerat un excentric,cine sunt eu sa trag concluzii?Ceea ce stiu e ca va iubesc si voi fi in spirit mereu cu voi.
O spun cu sinceritate,si tie draga Frate iti multumesc din suflet pentru cuvintele tale.

A venit timpul sa plec,va iubesc mult si veti fi mereu cu mine in inima,spirit si suflet.Si asta e ,fiti siguri,o certitudine.

Multumesc Daniel pentru tot si la fel Admin.Niciodata nu am fost impotriva voastra si a nimanui,fiti bravi in viata si sa stiti ca fara sa cunoasteti cu totii,fiecare din voi are in par pene de pace si razboi,este legea.
Wakan Tanka este cu voi in voi si in jurul vostru,NU sunteti separati de EL.

Nu esti idealist si visator daca vei crede in dragoste,iubire si pace.Vei intelege sa devii intelept si sa te vezi pe tine in oricine si in toata Creatia.
Imaginati-va ca Bufallow Cow Woman(Creatia toata)este cea mai frumoasa femeie de pe glob!Oare nu veti fi indragostiti de ea?Oare nu vreti s-o protejati si s-o iubiti,sa o aparati chiar sfidand moartea?

Astea mi-au fost cuvintele de incheiere.

Love&peace sisters and brothers,
may the Great Spirit be with you all the time.
Ozzy(Little eagle who cries)
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'If the white man wants to live in peace with the indian,he can live in peace.Treat all men and women alike.Give them all the same law.Give them all an even chance to live and grow.
All we were made by the same Great Spirit Chief.We are all sisters and brothers.The earth is the mother of all people and nations in the world,all we should have equal rights upon it.
If we are all poor is because we are honest."

Great Chief Joseph(Nez perce-iroquois)
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Va iubesc mult,imi sunteti in sange.Acum sunt pictat in culorile mele de alb si negru si am tipat afara in natura cantecul meu,adio dragi prieteni de suflet,surioare si frati,ne vom revedea in alta viata.
Adio Destin,poate faci ca mesajul meu ultim sa ajunga la toti,eu ma voi de-conecta acum.

Little Eagle Who Cries,
numele meu si sunt mai mult ca mandru de el.
























































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Pt. Daniel de la Ozzy/06.06.04 - de (anonim) la: 07/06/2004 01:41:49
(la: Prietenia in zilele noastre)
Dear Brother,

Cu foarte multi ani in urma,prin anii 70 de inceput,a fost in Ro. un film american cu Peter Fonda(un western,dar acum nu tin minte numele)care m-a impresionat f. mult.
Doi f.f.f buni prieteni cowboys se intorc fiecare la casele lor,Peter are o sotie si
copil,nu i-a vazut de multa vreme.Se reunesc,si acum se gandeste la o viata retrasa,in sfarsit cu familia lui.El si sotia se iubesc f. mult,totul este okay,pana intr-o zi cand afla ca prietenul lui este in pericol de moarte si ii cere ajutorul sa-l apere impotriva unor desperados.
Fara sa stea pe ganduri,in ciuda faptului ca sotia si copilul ii sunt cei mai dragi pe lume si ea il implora sa stea acasa,el isi pune pistolul si pleaca sa-si ajute prietenul.In lupta care urmeaza cu banditii,reusesc sa-i omoare si prietenul lui sa fie okay,dar Peter moare....

Acuma,eu asta cred ca e reala prietenie,tu ce crezi?
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Personal am avut in viata destule deceptii legate de prieteni pe care i-am considerat cei mai buni.
Odata demult in 1975 eram la Saturn(la Marea Neagra)cu cel mai bun prieten al meu,eram intr-o noapte la un bar cu bowling si discoteca,lume multa si el a plecat o vreme afara sa ia aer,bause cam mult.Cand a venit inapoi avea fata umflata de bataie si sange,niste golani ii furasera ceasul si geaca de jeans,fusesera in bar.
Eu am fost in tinerete caftangiu de cartier,si cand l-am vazut asa de rau batut,m-am enervat,am sarit pe o masa la bar si urlat ca vreau sa stiu unde sunt acei batausi,nimeni n-a zis insa nimic,am spart masa cu pumnul(avea sticla deasupra)si am sangerat,am lins sangele pe pumn uitandu-ma la ei toti.
Muzica se oprise,era liniste,dar nu am stiut ca barman-ul chemase deja militia.
As fi murit taiat de cutit batindu-i pe acei golani!Aveam de gand sa ma bat cu ei oriciti erau(fusesera 3,am aflat de la militie mai tarziu),m-am mai batut eu cu 2-3 deodata inainte in alte batai si situatii.

Militia a venit si...ne-a arestat pe mine si prietenul meu....erau in cardasie cu golanii,tatal prietenului a facut presiuni la Bucuresti si s-a aflat totul.
Nu am stat in arest decat sa dam declaratii....sa fie acolo!Ne-au dat drumul si am plecat a doua zi imediat cu trenul la Buc.El era umflat bine.Inainte am mers la spital sa-i puna copci la frunte si obraz.
dar iti spun ca m-as fi batut la viata si moarte pt. el.

Cand am inceput lupta impotriva regimului comunist si Ceausescu sa plec din Tara,acest...prieten n-a mai vrut sa ma vada si m-a ocolit mereu,nu raspundea la telefon,se facea ca nu-i acasa etc. si de fapt multi altii in care am crezut ca-mi sunt prieteni.Am invatat o lectie!
Nu cred ca am avut prieteni adevarati.Eu i-am gandit mereu ca atare si i-am iubit,chiar si azi ii iubesc,chiar daca nu mai am relatii cu ei de atunci.
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Aici in USA,la fel,am crezut ca am prieteni....poate ne numim inca asa,dar as zice ca am doar cativa, din pacate traiesc in California si doar vorbim la telefon si prin emails.
Prietenul meu cel mai bun insa a ramas mereu si de 16 ani Vernon,fratele meu de sange indian.
Si desigur de 14 ani sotia mea in care vad cel mai bun prieten totodata,si sora si sotie.
Dar personal,eu gandesc in brotherhood of men and women,de ex. pe tine te consider frate de suflet,si pe toti din Cercul nostru si pe necunoscuti de oriunde pe glob.E mai mult ca o prietenie,nu vreau NIMIC de la nimeni,asa cred si as dori ca toti sa fim fericiti si sa ne iubim intre noi.
Sa uitam de ura ,dispret,lacomie,egoism,suntem acelasi suflet mereu.

Astea am avut de spus.

Love&peace,
Ozzy(Wichincala Magha Chaule Shice-Little Eagle Who Cries)

Mitakuye oyasin(We are ALL related)
. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

oed jew | more
Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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ptr. Belle - de SB_one la: 04/07/2004 11:44:47
(la: Femeia)
Words Women Use...

FINE
This is the word women use to end an argument when they feel they are right and you need to shut up. Never use "fine" to describe how a woman looks - this will cause you to have one of those arguments.
FIVE MINUTES
This is half an hour. It is equivalent to the five minutes that your football game is going to last before you take out the trash, so it's an even trade.
NOTHING
This means "something", and you should be on your toes. "Nothing" is usually used to describe the feeling a woman has of wanting to turn you inside out, upside down, and backwards. 'Nothing" usually signifies an argument that will last "Five Minutes" and end with 'Fine'
GO AHEAD (With Raised Eyebrows)
This is a dare. One that will result in a woman getting upset over Nothing" and will end with the word "Fine"
GO AHEAD (Normal Eyebrows)
This means "I give up" or "do what you want because I don't care" You will get a "Raised Eyebrow Go Ahead" in just a few minutes, followed by Nothing" and "Fine" and she will talk to you in about "Five Minutes" when she cools off.
LOUD SIGH
This is not actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement often misunderstood by men. A "Loud Sigh" means she thinks you are an idiot at that moment, and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you over "Nothing"
SOFT SIGH
Again, not a word, but a non-verbal statement. "Soft Sighs" mean that she is content. Your best bet is to not move or breathe, and she will stay content.
THAT'S OKAY
This is one of the most dangerous statements that a woman can make to a man. "That's Okay" means that she wants to think long and hard before paying you back for whatever it is that you have done. "That's Okay" is often used with the word "Fine" and in conjunction with a "Raised Eyebrow.
GO AHEAD
At some point in the near future, you are going to be in some mighty big trouble.
PLEASE DO
This is not a statement, it is an offer. A woman is giving you the chance to come up with whatever excuse or reason you have for doing whatever it is that you have done.You have a fair chance with the truth, so be careful and you shouldn't get a "That's Okay"
THANKS
A woman is thanking you. Do not faint. Just say you're welcome.
THANKS A LOT
This is much different from "Thanks." A woman will say, "Thanks A Lot" when she is really ticked off at you. It signifies that you have offended her in some callous way, and will be followed by the "Loud Sigh." Be careful not to ask what is wrong after the "Loud Sigh," as she will only tell you "Nothing"




SB
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it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice !
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one more...for you, Belle! - de SB_one la: 18/07/2004 18:48:21
(la: Femeia)
TOP TEN THINGS ONLY WOMEN UNDERSTAND

10. Cats' facial expressions.

9. The need for the same style of shoes in different colors.

8. Why bean sprouts aren't just weeds.

7. Fat clothes.

6. Taking a car trip without trying to beat your best time.

5. The difference between beige, ecru, cream, off-white, and
eggshell.

4. Cutting your bangs to make them grow.

3. Eyelash curlers.

2. The inaccuracy of every bathroom scale ever made.

AND, the NumberOne NumberOne thing only women understand:
1. OTHER WOMEN

...WE ALL NEED TO SMILE !!!



SB
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it's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice !
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Fapte Reale pt. Omulet - de LMC la: 04/08/2004 18:39:49
(la: Despre Alegerile din S.U.A.: De ce trebuie sa votam pt. GWB.)
Prin simplu fapt ca ai zis:

"Nu m-am mai deranjat nici macar sa deschid linkurile pe care le-ai publicat. Stiu ce contin, si propaganda fascista nu ma atrage."

asta da dovada de um om cu o minte deschisa????

Imi pare rau Domnule Goma, dar interpretarea dumitale este cea care-i obtusa. Daca te-ai fi deranjat numai pentru unul dintre linkurile care le-am listat ai fi vazut ca ceea ce era scris nu era numai de la sursa care publica. Din contra fiecare dintre linkuri arata un "headline" reportat in diferite locuri. De asemenea, ti-ai fi deschis un pic mai mult mintea si te-ai fi educat sa vezi cine-ti sint "prieteni". Vorba aia "Doamne fereste-ma de prieteni ca de inamici ma stiu eu pazi."

Din cite am citit la tine,te uiti la mine ca la un red neck, si eu ma uit la tine ca la un om care are ochii blindati. Ti-ai format o ideie anume despre conservativi, dar nici nu esti interesat sa-i cunosti. Imi pare rau dar pierzi mult mai mult decit tu crezi ca cistigi de la liberali.

Imi spui sa ma duc sa-mi citesc Biblia, si vreau sa-ti spun ca am citit-o mai mult decit ai fi citit-o sau o vei citi tu vre-odata. News Flash: vechiul si noul testament nu se contrazic deloc, ci se completeaza. Si ca sa-ti spun ce parere are Biblia despre prietenii tai homosexuali am sa-ti dau sa citesti citeva pasaje, si din Vechi si din Nou.

Leviticus 18:22
Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Leviticus 20:13
If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Romans 1. 18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
21For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
24Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
26Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. 27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. 29They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

Ai dorinta sa-mi inchizi gura, asta nu vei reusi niciodata. Atita timp cit am vlaga in mine, atita timp cit singele-mi pulseaza in vene, voi spune raului rau si binelui bine. Sa fiu sincera cu tine nu ma intereseaza ce faci sau ce face altul atita timp cit nu-mi baga nimeni pe git ideile murdare, sau guvernul tarii in care traiesc nu se asociaza cu ideile aceastea. Si eu cred ca am dreptul acesta. Nu te ingrijora, nu voi vota pentru infiintarea lagarelor de concentrare, dar vad ca lagarele de concentrare pentru care votezi tu sint aproape de infiintare. Cred ca vei fi primul care ma vei lua de la spate si ma vei impinge in cuptor impreuna cu toti ceilalti conservativi, crestini sau altii care nu-s de acord cu tine. Si inca mai ai tupeul sa-mi spui ca cica eu sint plina de ura. Ma intreb oare ce parere au parintii tai, sau bunicii tai despre tine si ideile tale.

Nu are rost sa mai continui, am sa te pun primul pe lista celor ignorati, asa ca nu-ti pierde timpul sa-mi mai scrii.
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