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. - de ikoflexer la: 29/06/2004 19:43:36
(la: Ozzy vs LMC)
de cand se traduce "jew" prin "jidan"(termen insultator)?

N-am intentionat sa jignesc pe nimeni si nu stiam ca "jidan" e un termen insultator; daca e imi cer scuze. Cum s-ar traduce atunci? --- ca n-am un dictionar englez-roman la indemina.

Dupa cite stiu eu: hebrew = evreu
israeli = israelian
jew = ? (eu credeam jidan---corectati-ma)
jewish = de religie ?

Citez mai jos pentru cei ce au timp sa citeasca din Oxford English Dictionary:

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Jew (d3(j)u:), sb. Forms: Sing. 3 Gyu, 4 Giu, Gyw, Iu, Iuu, Iuw(e, Ieu, Ieuu,
Ieu3, 4-5 Iwe, 4 (6 Sc.) Iow, 4-7 Iewe, 5 Ieue, 5-6 Iue, (Ive), 4-7 Iew, 7-
Jew. Plur. 2 Giwis, 3 Giws, Gius, Gyu(e)s, 3-4 Gywes, Giwes, Geus, 4 Iuu(e)s,
Iuwis, Iow(e)s, Ioues, Iewis, -ys, -us, 4-5 Iuwes, 4-6 Iues, 4-7 Iewes, 5
Iuys, 6 Sc. Iowis, Iouis, 4-7 Iews, 7- Jews; beta. 4 Iuen. [ME. a. OFr. giu,
gyu, giue, earlier juieu, juiu, jueu:-L. iudaeum (nom. -us) Jew (cf. Fr. dieu,
ebreu:-L. deum. hebraeum); in later Fr. juif, fem. juive. L. iudaeus was a.
Gr. iota-omicron-upsilon-delta-alpha-iota--omicron-sigma-, f. Aramaic y'hudai,
corresp. to Heb. y'hudi Jew, f. y'hudah Judah, name of a Hebrew patriarch and
the tribe descended from him. (The OE. equivalent was Iudeas Jews, Early ME.
Iudeow, Iudew: see JUDEW.)]
1 a A person of Hebrew descent; one whose religion is Judaism; an Israelite.
Orig. a Hebrew of the kingdom of Judah, as opposed to those of the ten tribes
of Israel; later, any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as
conducted at Jerusalem. Applied comparatively rarely to the ancient nation
before the exile (cf. HEBREW sb. 1), but the commonest name for contemporary
or modern representatives of this group, now spread throughout the world. The
word `Jew' is also applied to groups, e.g. the Falashas in Ethiopia, not
ethnically related to persons of the main European groups, the Ashkenazim and
the Sephardim.
C. 1275 Passion our Lord 351 in O.E. Misc. 47 Pilates hym onswerede, am ich
Gyv penne? A. 1300 Cursor M. 3944 (Cott.) O sinnu etes neuer Iuu [v.rr. ieuu,
iew]. A. 1300 Cursor M. 11072 (Cott.) It halus bath Iu and sarzine. C. 1310 in
Wright Lyric P. (Percy Soc.) 100 Ich holde me vilore then a Gyw [rimes bowe,
trowe, now]. C. 1340 Cursor M. 4532 (Trin.) Therynne a iewes childe we fonde.
C. 1340 Cursor M. 18579 (Trin.) And namely leue herof no iwe For al pus dud
pei wip ihesu. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VI. 385 Charles Grossus was
i-poysoned of a Iewe [v.r. Iuw]. A. 1400 Pistill of Susan 2 That was a Ieu3
ientil, and Ioachin he hiht. C. 1440 Promp. Parv. 266/2 Ive, judeus. 1530
PALSGR. 235/1 Jue a man of jurye, jvif. 1572 Satir. Poems Reform. xxxi. 173
Mair nor in Jurie dois the Jow. 1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. III. i. 61 What is the
reason? I am a Iewe; Hath not a Iew eyes? 1615 G. SANDYS Trav. 52 His mother a
Iew both by birth and religion. 1775 SHERIDAN Rivals II. i, She shall have a
skin like a mummy, and the beard of a Jew. 1820 BYRON Blues I. 77 You forget
Lady Lilac's as rich as a Jew.1940 AUDEN Another Time 116 He [sc. Sigmund
Freud] Was taken away from his old interest To go back to the earth in London,
An important Jew who died in exile. 1956 I. MURDOCH Flight from Enchanter ix.
126 `Of course, you realize that I could rescue you with my little finger,'
said Mrs Wingfield. `I'm as rich as a Jew!' 1970 R. D. ABRAHAMS Positively
Black iii. 76 The Englishman is arrogant and overbearing, the American is a
check-writing millionaire who doesn't mind the cost, the Jew tries to push
down the entry price into heaven. 1970 Times 28 Jan. 10/4 At the heart of the
matter lies the rabbinical definition of a Jew: a person born of a Jewish
mother, or a person who has converted to Judaism according to rabbinical law.
1974 J. R. BAKER Race xiv. 234 From the traditional religious point of view, a
Jew was a person born of a Jewish mother, but this formula suffers from the
defect that the defined word is included in adjectival form in the definition.
The same flaw occurs in part of the new definition enacted by the Israeli
Parliament in..1970, according to which a person is a Jew if he or she is the
offspring of a Jewish mother or has been converted to the Jewish faith by the
Orthodox Rabbinate or by the Rabbis of the Jewish Reform Movement or by the
Rabbis of the Jewish Conservative Movement.
plural. C. 1175 Lamb. Hom. 9 Alswa hefden pe giwis heore sinagoge. C. 1250
Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc. 26 Hi..askede wer was se king of gyus pet was
i-bore. C. 1250 Old Kent. Serm. in O.E. Misc., 26 King of geus. A. 1300
Cursor M. 142 O pe Iuus [v.rr. iewes] and moyses. A. 1300 Cursor M. 19129
(Gott.) Thar badd pai iuen suld paim 3eme. A. 1340 HAMPOLE Psalter xxvii. 5
The iowes sloghe crist. 1387 TREVISA Higden (Rolls) VIII. 53 That he schulde
doo pe Iewes [v.r. Iuwes] out of Engelond. 1482 CAXTON Trevisa's Higden
(Rolls) IV. 369 The Iuwes accused Pilatus to Tiberius. 1533 GAU Richt Vay 30
Ve prech Iesu Christ crucifeit, sclander to the Iowis and folie to the
gentils. 1548-9 (Mar.) Bk. Comm. Prayer (Coll. Good Friday), Haue mercy upon
all Iewes, Turkes, Infidels, and heretikes. 1611 BIBLE 2 Kings xvi. 6 At that
time Rezin king of Syria..draue the Iews from Elath. 1619 SANDERSON Twelve
Serm. (1632) 2 In Rome there lived in the Apostles times many Iewes. 1710 etc.
[see FALASHA]. 1776 GIBBON Decl. & F. xv, The same..abhorrence for idolatry
which had distinguished the Jews from the other nations of the ancient world.
1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Relentless persecution of Jews, century
after century, in nation after nation, left a legacy of bitter sayings: `Dos
ken nor a goy.' (`That, only a goy is capable of doing'). 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 The Jews got to keep us bloods stayin weak. 1974 J. R. BAKER Race
xiv. 232 In various parts of the world today there are communities that
practise the Jewish faith in one form or another, but are ethnically distinct
from the Jews of Europe and North America.
gen. plur. A. 1225 Ancr. R. 394 Uorto acwiten ut his leofmon of Giwene
honden. A. 1225 Juliana 62 Ant poledest pinen ant passiun purh giwes read on
rode. A. 1300 Cursor M. 4532 (Cott.) Thar in a Iuen child [Trin. iewes childe]
we fand. C. 1300 Cursor M. 19289 (Edin.) The iuwin folc felune. C. 1300Cursor
M. 21696 (Edin.) Mang pe Iuwis lede. C. 1350 Childh. Jesus 616 (Matz.) Giwene
children feole..Him siweden. C. 1449 PECOCK Repr. III. iii. 291 If Cristen
preestis weren Iewen preestis. 1653 GREAVES Seraglio 150 In the Kings
Seraglio, the Sultana's are permitted to employ divers Jewes-women about their
ordinary occasions.
b Jew's eye: proverbial expression for something valued highly.
1592 G. HARVEY Pierce's Super. 85 A souerain Rule, as deare as a Iewes eye.
1596 SHAKS. Merch. V. II. v. 43 There will come a Christian by, Will be worth
a Iewes eye. 1833 MARRYAT P. Simple ii, Although the journey..would cost twice
the value of a gold seal, yet, that in the end it might be worth a Jew's eye.
1844 WILLIS Lady Jane I. 212 From dome to floor, Hung pictures..Each `worth a
Jew's eye'.
c Black Jew (see quot. 1967); also = FALASHA.
1807 C. BUCHANAN Jrnl. 4 Feb. in Christian Res. in Asia (1811) 192 The
resident Jews are divided into two classes, called the Jerusalem or White
Jews; and the Ancient or Black Jews. The White Jews reside at this place [sc.
Cochin]. The Black Jews have also a Synagogue here; but the great body of
that tribe inhabit towns in the interior of the province. A. 1817 T. DWIGHT
Trav. New-Eng. (1823) III. 174 The black Jews in Hindostan. 1822 Imperial Mag.
IV. 358 A copy of the Hebrew Pentateuch..found in one of the Black Jews'
Synagogues, at Cochin. 1843 J. C. MAITLAND Lett. from Madras xviii. 178, I
told him about the first preachers, the Black Jews, the Syrian Christians, &c.
1892 G. M. RAE Syrian Church in India x. 150 These black Jews are converts to
the faith from among the people of the land. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
155 The black Jews..surrounded by all those millions of Hindoos. 1930 H.
NORDEN Africa's Last Empire 185 The black Jews among whom he works. 1964 [see
FALASHA]. 1967 D. T. KAUFFMAN Dict. Relig. Terms 77/1 Black Jews, in India,
term applied to brown-skinned Jews to distinguish them from a group known as
`White Jews'. Sometimes used also for Negro Jewish groups. 1974 J. R. BAKER
Race xiv. 232 The Falasha or `black Jews' of Ethiopia are members of the
Aethiopid subrace, a hybrid taxon.
d A ship's tailor. Hence also jewing vbl. sb. and ppl. a. Naut. slang.
1916 Chambers's Jrnl. May 278/2 They [sc. ships' tailors] were still known as
`jews'. 1916 Chambers's Jrnl., May 278/2 The term `jewing', as sewing is
still called. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor x. 102 There was the
`Jewing-bloke', who undertook tailoring repairs. 1945 TACKLINE Holiday Sailor,
x. 102 The `Jewing-bloke' had a rather ancient Singer sewing machine, bought
when ashore at Alexandria with..pay in his pocket. 1946 J. IRVING Royal
Navalese 100 A sailor-tailor is known as a `Jew'. 1962 GRANVILLE Dict.
Sailors' Slang 66/1 Jewing firm, ship's tailoring `firm' run by one or more
ratings who repair and make clothing.
2 a transf. and offensive. As a name of opprobrium: spec. applied to a
grasping or extortionate person (whether Jewish or not) who drives hard
bargains.
In medieval England, Jews, though engaged in many pursuits, were particularly
familiar as money-lenders, their activities being publicly regulated for them
by the Crown, whose proteges they were. In private, Christians also practised
money-lending, though forbidden to do so by Canon Law. Thus the name of Jew
came to be associated in the popular mind with usury and any extortionate
practices that might be supposed to accompany it, and gained an opprobrious
sense.
1606 Sir G. Goosecappe V. i. in Bullen O. Pl. III. 77 If the sunne of thy
beauty doe not white me like a shippards holland, I am a Iewe to my Creator.
1700 BP. PATRICK Comm. Deut. xxviii. 37 Better we cannot express the most
cut-throat dealing, than thus, You use me like a Jew. 1830 COLERIDGE Table-t.
16 May, Jacob is a regular Jew, and practises all sorts of tricks and wiles.
1844 D. KING Ruling Eldership II. i, It is undesirable..that he pass in the
commercial circle for what is there termed a Jew.1846 Swell's Night Guide
123/1 Jew, an overreaching fellow. C. 1861 E. DICKINSON Poems (1955) I. 160
'Twould be `a Bargain' for a Jew! Say-may I have it-Sir? 1906 J. M. SYNGE
Lett. to Molly (1971) 31 What have I done that you should write to me as if I
was a dunning Jew? 1920 T. S. ELIOT Ara Vos Prec 14 The jew is underneath the
lot. Money in furs. 1931 T. R. G. LYELL Slang 428 Why waste your time asking
him for a subscription? He's a perfect Jew where money's concerned. 1944
Britannica Bk. of Year 693 In March 1943 there were tirades from Bangkok radio
against the `Jews of Siam' (probably Chinese), who were accused of
profiteering. 1952 G. BONE Came to Oxf. xi. 34 There is a curious fallacy,
rather wide-spread, that a borrower of money is an innocent and hapless
person, while a lender is a shark, a harpy, a `Jew'. 1964 H. BROTZ Black Jews
of Harlem iii. 54 Occasionally the Black Jews forget they are Jews when
complaining about the fact that `the Jews' own all or most of Harlem!
b A pedlar.
In this use not depreciatory.
1803 G. COLMAN John Bull III. ii. 32 Here is two poets, and a poll-parrot,
the best image the Jew had over his head, over the mantle-piece. 1963 E.
MCBAIN Ten Plus One (1964) iv. 42 There was a guy who used to come around to
the door selling stuff, and my mother called him `The Jew'... For her, `Jew'
was synonymous with pedlar. 1970 J. H. GRAY Boy from Winnipeg 43 For us,
however, `Jew' was just another generic word that often included the peddlers
who were Greek or Italian. When we scrounged bottles it was to sell to `the
Jew', who was anybody that came along buying junk.
3 attrib. and Comb. a attrib. or as adj. That is a Jew, Jewish, as Jew boy,
butcher, girl, man, pedlar, physician, trooper (such expressions now mainly in
offensive use but not originally opprobrious); of or relating to Jews, as Jew
bill, hatred, toll. b objective, similative, etc., as Jew-drowning, -hater,
Jew-dear, adj.; Jew-like adj. and adv., -looking adj.
1765 BLACKSTONE Comm. I. x. (1793) 375 Very high debates about the time of
the famous Jew-bill; which enables all Jews to prefer bills of naturalization
in parliament, without receiving the sacrament.
1796 P. COLQUHOUN Treat. Police of Metropolis (ed. 3) vi. 125 Jew Boys..go
out every morning loaded with counterfeit Copper, which they exchange for bad
Silver, to be afterwards coloured anew, and again put into circulation. 1817
M. EDGEWORTH Harrington iii. 45 Mowbray easily engaged me to join him against
the Jew boy; and a zealous partizan against Jacob I became. 1873 TROLLOPE
Eustace Diamonds II. liii. 361 You used to be very wicked, and say he was once
a Jew-boy in the streets. 1929 D. H. LAWRENCE Let. 10 Oct. (1962) II. 1208, I
do hate John's Jewish nasal sort of style-so uglily moral... Spring doesn't
only come for the moral Jew-boys-for them perhaps least. 1948 J. BALDWIN in
Commentary Oct. 334/2 Jules Weissman, a Jewboy, had got the room for me. 1954
Jewboy [see IKEY sb. and a.]. 1959 N. MAILER Advts. for Myself (1961) 50
Jewboy, blond Jewboy Wexler perched by the cellar window, tackling Japs with
machine-gun bullets. 1968 Daily Mail 9 Feb. 3/3 Angry viewers rang the BBC
last night to complain about an `anti-Semitic' remark on the TV programme
Softly, Softly. In last night's episode..the detective tells the man: `You
always were a great one for putting things in your wife's name, Bob, just like
a Jewboy heading for bankruptcy.' 1972 Observer 7 May, Mrs Lane Fox dismisses
what she calls the country set, who call their children `the brats', talk
about `thrashing them into shape', support Enoch Powell and still refer to
`jew boys'. 1974 New Society 3 Jan. 11/2 A car's desirability also creates the
opposite reaction, in that envy is easily turned to resentment and aggression
towards, for instance, the `jewboy', the `poser', the `toffee nose' and the
`business classes' who sport expensive and powerful cars.
1849 W. S. MAYO Kaloolah (1887) p. viii, Oil, garlic, salt fish, and Jew
brandy.
1613 PURCHAS Pilgrimage (1614) 213 Thus you see the Iew-butcher had need be
no botcher, but halfe a Physitian in Anatomizing.
1755 J. SHEBBEARE Lydia (1769) I. 274 [He] must have had this jew-craft
among his reasons for endeavouring to naturalize the Jews.
1899 A. WHITE Modern Jew 122 There are many instances of the drollery of
*Jew-drowning in the annals of monkish historians.
1796 E. WYNNE Diary 11 Dec. (1937) II. ix. 139 Before having ever seen us she
declared that we were all excepting the youngest, like little crows and Jew
girls. 1930 E. POUND XXX Cantos x. 45 Wives, jew-girls, nuns. 1971 B. MALAMUD
Tenants 50 Jewgirls are the best whores.
1899 Westm. Gaz. 18 Sept. 2/2 The nature of the wounds roused amongst the
*Jew-haters the old story of the blood sacrifice.
1898 Nat. Rev. Aug. 807 Outside Russia, Jew hatred is a matter with which
Governments have no direct concern.
1808 COBBETT Pol. Reg. XIII. 172 Through the means of a jew-like commerce
with the revolted slaves.
1905 JOYCE Let. 29 Oct. (1966) II. 127 For a Jewman it's better than having
to bathe. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 336 I'll brain that bloody jewman for using the
holy name. 1938 W. B. YEATS John Kinsella's Lament in London Mercury Dec. 114
Though stiff to strike a bargain Like an old Jew man.
1771 SMOLLETT Humph. Cl. 20 Apr. Let ii, I was cheapening a pair of
spectacles with a Jew-pedlar.
1731 Gent. Mag. I. 403 Dr. Bass, a noted Jew Physician in St. Mary Axe.
A. 1680 BUTLER Rem. (1759) II. 84 And crucify his Saviour worse Than those
*Jew-Troopers, that threw out, When they were raffling for his coat.
c Special Combs.: Jew-bail, insufficient bail, `straw-bail'; 'Jew-baiting sb.
= Ger. Judenhetze, systematic harrying or persecution of Jews; so Jew-bait v.
nonce-wd., Jew-baiter, Jew-baiting a.; Jew-bush, a euphorbiaceous plant of the
genus Pedilanthus; Jew-cart (see quot.); Jew-lizard, a large Australian
lizard, Amphibolurus barbatus; Jew plum = OTAHEITE APPLE; Jew Tongo, a
language spoken among Bush Negroes in Surinam, possessing a structure largely
derived from West African languages and a vocabulary largely derived from
English.
1785 GROSE Dict. Vulg. T., Jew Bail. 1797 MARY ROBINSON Walsingham IV. 283
He..did the deep ones with Jew-bail, till they were up to the trick.
1892 Sat. Rev. 18 June 700/2 [He] is always going about Jew-baiting and to
*Jew-bait with pen or sword.
1883 Pall Mall G. 19 Nov. 3/1 [They] are now in full possession of the case
of the German jew-baiters against the Jews. 1907 I. ZANGWILL Ghetto Comedies
85 She's honest... She won't fall back on the old Jew-baiter. 1945 W. S.
CHURCHILL Victory (1946) 145 Julius Streicher, most notorious of Jew-baiters,
was captured by the Americans. 1960 C. DAY LEWIS Buried Day vi. 116 The same
herd instinct that produces Teddy Boys, Jew-baiters and Ku-Klux-Klansmen. 1974
G. MITCHELL Javelin for Jonah xi. 133 Benjy was unlucky enough to fall foul at
school of a ring of young Jew-baiters.
1883 Evening Post (N.Y.) 21 Apr., The Jew-baiting in Germany; the bloody
persecutions in Russia. 1898 Nat. Review Aug. 807 In the Empire of the
Tsar..Jew-baiting is a matter of high State policy. 1922 JOYCE Ulysses 202
Shylock chimes with the jewbaiting that followed the hanging. 1939 Ann. Reg.
1938 203 The brutalities began on April 23, and it was clear that the scheme
of Jew-baiting had been worked out in readiness for the `Anschluss'. 1969 J.
MANDER Static Soc. iii. 99 The American, however ugly, is no Jew-baiting
Gauleiter.
1830 LINDLEY Nat. Syst. Bot. 105 The Jew Bush, or Milk plant.
1840 MARRYAT Poor Jack xviii, Then we have what we call Jew Carts, always
ready to take [stolen] goods inland, where they will not be looked after.
1847 LEICHHARDT Jrnl. iii. 89 A small Chlamydophorus (*Jew lizard of the
Hunter [River]) was also seen. A. 1884 J. SERVICE Thir Notandums (1890) 205
From beneath a log the green Jew-lizard, or the iguana peeps.
1913 W. HARRIS Notes Fruit & Veg. in Jamaica 18 The Jew Plum..was
introduced to Jamaica in 1782 and again in 1792. 1920 W. POPENOE Man. Tropical
& Subtropical Fruits iv. 156 Jew-plum is another name for the ambarelle, used
in Jamaica. 1971 Caribbean Q. XVII. II. 14 Different name, same
referent..golden apple/Jew plum/pomme-citerre.
1933 L. BLOOMFIELD Lang. xxvi. 474 Two creolized forms of English are spoken
in Suriname (Dutch Guiana). One of these.., more divergent from ordinary
types of English, is known as Jew-Tongo. 1968 W. J. SAMARIN in J. A. Fishman
Readings Sociol. of Lang. 666 Amerindian pidgins... Saramakan (Jew Tongo,
Ningre-Tongo).
d Genitival Combs.: Jews' apple, a name for the Egg-plant or its fruit; Jews'
frankincense, a plant of the genus Styrax, or the resin obtained from it
(storax or benzoin); Jews' houses, name given to the remains of ancient
tin-smelting furnaces in Cornwall; Jew's letter, a text inscribed in Hebrew
upon a phylactery, regarded as the outward symbol or badge of a Jew; Jews'
lime, a synonym of Jews' slime (see below); Jews' mallow, a name for Corchorus
olitorius (N.O. Tiliaceae), one of the plants from which the fibre called jute
is obtained, used as a pot-herb in Egypt, Syria, and other countries; Jews'
money, a popular name for ancient Roman coins found in some parts of England;
Jews' myrtle, a name for Butcher's Broom, and for a variety of the common
Myrtle; Jews' pitch, Jews' slime, names for asphalt or bitumen (cf. Gen. xi.
3); Jews' thorn = Christ's thorn (see CHRIST 5); Jews' tin, name for lumps of
tin found in ancient smelting-furnaces (Jews' houses) in Cornwall.
1884 MILLER Plant-n., Solanum esculentum, Jew's-Apple, Mad-Apple... S.
Melongena,..Egg-plant, Jew's-Apple.
1760 J. LEE Introd. Bot. App. 315 Jew's Frankincense, Styrax.
1851 Illustr. Catal. Gt. Exhib. 162 In the reign of King John, the mines
[were] principally in the hands of the Jews..remains of furnaces, called
*Jews' houses, have been discovered, and small blocks of tin, known as Jews'
tin, have..been found in the mining localities.
1589 R. HARVEY Pl. Perc. (1860) 32 Iewes letter scrible scrable ouer the
Copurtenaunce of a mans countenaunce. 1598 FLORIO Worlde of Wordes To Rdr. A
vj, A fouler blot then a Iewes letter..in the foreheads of Caelius and Curio.
1731-3 MILLER Gard. Dict. s.v. Corchorus, Jews Mallow, ..sown in great
Plenty about Aleppo as a Pot-herb, the Jews boiling the Leaves of this Plant
to eat with their Meat. 1887 MOLONEY Forestry W. Afr. 289 `Jews' Mallow' or
`Jute' (Corchorus olitorius, L.)-Annual. This is one of the species that
affords the well-known fibre of commerce called `Jute'.
1577 HARRISON England II. xxiv. (1877) I. 360 Some peeces or other are dailie
taken vp, which they call Borow pence, Dwarfs monie..*Iewes monie, and by
other foolish names not woorthie to be remembred.
1856 N. & Q. Ser. II. I. 432/2 In some parts of Kent it [Ruscus aculeatus] is
called `*Jews' Myrtle'; and it is the popular belief, that the crown of
thorns..was composed of its branches.
1756 P. BROWNE Jamaica 40 Asphaltum, Jew's pitch. 1816 TINGRY Varnisher's
Guide (ed. 2) 1 Asphaltum..issues in a liquid form from the bottom of the lake
Asphaltis in Judaea; and hence the name of Jew's pitch.
1607 TOPSELL Four-f. Beasts 188 Iewes lime drunk in water..prescribed for a
remedy of this euill. 1639 HORN & ROB. Gate Lang. Unl. x. Sect.104 Salt-peter,
brimstone, Jew's slime, patrol, bole-armoniak,..are called mineral juyces.
1597 GERARDE Herbal Index, Iewes thorne, that is Christs thorne. III. xxvi.
1153 This shrubbie thorne Paliurus was the thorne wherewith they crowned our
Sauiour Christ.
1851 Jews' tin [see Jews' house].

Jew, jew, v. colloq. [f. JEW sb. (sense 2).] trans. To cheat or overreach, in
the way attributed to Jewish traders or usurers. Also, to drive a hard
bargain, and intr., to haggle. Phr. to jew down, to beat down in price; also
transf. Hence 'Jewing vbl. sb.
These uses are now considered to be offensive.
1824 C. HARDING Diary 29 Apr. in Sketch (1929) 75 He is a country clergyman;
and, from his Jewing disposition, I should judge he had more taste in tithes
than pictures. 1825 Constitutional Adv. (Frankfort, Kentucky) 15 Dec. 3/1 We
hope, for the honour and character of the state, that neither the legislature
nor the people, will Jew the items of expence. 1833 L. DOW Dealings of God
(1849) 189 If they [sc. the Jews] will Jew people, they cannot flourish among
Yankees, who are said to `outjew' them in trading. A. 1845 BARHAM Ingol. Leg.,
Bro. Birchington lxv, Is it that way you'd Jew one? 1847 W. IRVING Let. 30
Apr. in Life & Lett. (1864) IV. 19 Some mode of screwing and jewing the world
out of more interest than one's money is entitled to. 1848 W. BAGLEY Let. 14
Mar. in N. E. Eliason Tarheel Talk (1956) 279, I Jewed old Galloway down to
1.50 for ploughs. 1851 H. MAYHEW London Labour I. 368/1 Some of the ladies in
the squares..sets to work Jewing away as hard as they can, pricing up their
own things, and downcrying yourn. 1854 D. G. ROSSETTI in Rossetti Ruskin,
Rossetti, etc. (1899) 15 But as to his doings And jawings and jewings, William
brought me the news. 1870 Congress. Globe 7 July 5340/1 This bill supposes
that Congress..is ready to commence jewing down the pay of its General. 1872
Chicago Tribune 14 Oct. 8/2 The prices [for lodging] asked vary-the lodger
being generally asked as much as it is thought he will give. If he jews, he
will get it for comparatively little. 1883 G. M HOPKINS Let. 6 Dec. (1938) 195
You will I know say..that Jew is a reproach because the Jews have corrupted
their race and nature, so that it is their vices and their free acts we
stigmatise when we call cheating `jewing'-and that you mean that Disraeli in
1871 overreached and jewed his constituents. 1891 Daily News 2 Nov. 7/3 He'd
take care he didn't `Jew' him again.1897 [see HIGHLAND a. 2 b]. 1908 Dialect
Notes III. 324 Jew, to beat down the price. `I tried to jew him, but he
wouldn't jew.' 1926 Market Growers Jrnl. 1 July 3, I make my retail prices
about half way between grocery store wholesale and retail prices, and do not
stand for any `jewing' down. 1937 Scribner's Mag. Apr. 25 Thought we might get
the divorce a little under fifty dollars. Maybe we might jew the young man
down. 1939 A. POWELL What's become of Waring v. 140 Then we can meet again and
jew each other down. 1946 W. G. HAMMOND Remembrance of Amherst 121 Both here and at the mountain top we were unmercifully jewed for all the refreshments.
1947 L. Z. HOBSON Gentleman's Agreement i. 9 Now she was describing the large
new house she and Dick wanted to buy. `Did you close the sale on the old
place?' Mrs. Green asked. `Not yet. That cheap Pat Curran keeps trying to
Jew us down.' 1968 L. ROSTEN Joys of Yiddish 142 Just as some Gentiles use
`Jew' as a contemptuous synonym for too-shrewd, sly bargaining (`He tried to
Jew the price down,' is about as unappetizing an idiom as I know), so some
Jews use goy in a pejorative sense. 1970 R. LOWELL Notebk. 69 This embankment,
jewed-No, yankeed-by the highways down to a grassy lip. 1971 R. THOMAS Backup
Men xxi. 184, I say how much and he says this much and I say it's not enough
so we jew around with each other until we make a price. 1972 Harper's Mag. May
83 Jew the fruitman down for his last Christmas tree. 1972 New Society 11 May
301/1, I got jewed down..over the cheap offer.

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Manu Chao - Luna y Sol - de canin la: 18/09/2005 18:40:50
(la: Muzica)
Manu Chao - Luna y Sol
il n'y a pas de quoi. - de Intruder la: 10/10/2005 01:28:11
(la: messenger de seara)
il n'y a pas de quoi.
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8%....RETURNARE !!! - de Mr Six la: 22/02/2006 16:22:33
(la: DAR BANUL AL CUI ESTE?)
Gindeste-te ca cei 5 sunt pe o insula (singuri, dezbracati, indatorati bancii cu 200)...La unu' din ei se apropie due date (returnarea banilor) si merge la numarul 4 spunindu-i "Iti fac un masaj daca imi dai 20" Celalalt accepta si tipul achita 16 dolls la banca, iar cu restul de 4 merge la numarul 3 (femela) invitind-o la cafea in coliba numarului 2 (care se alege cu 25% din datoria lui fata de banca...atunci cind numarul 4(caruia ii plac masajele) ramine doar cu 30 dolls merge la banca cu un proiect trasnet (vrea sa construiasca o coliba mai mare cu alt tip de cafea), atunci introduce alti bani in sistem.

-In felul asta banca federala urmareste prin multi indicatori evolutia economiei (a schimburilor si serviciilor din insula)...si emite moneda (o moneda ieftina, interes mic cind vrea o accelerare in productie si servicii...sau o moneda scumpa, interes mare cind doreste o stagnare)

salutari,
sixpack

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"cromozomul Y degenereaza"? - de Muresh la: 01/04/2006 20:48:21
(la: Oare toţi oamenii de astăzi au origină comună ?)
"cromozomul Y degenereaza"?
Eu nu am auzit de chestia asta, dar daca asa e doamnele vor trebui sa se "descurce" intre ele, ceeace parte din ele o si fac de pe acum.
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Shall we dance? :) - de thebrightside la: 02/07/2006 21:32:34
(la: The Ball Room)
Acum cateva ore, inchid calculatorul si m-apuc de gatit. Dupa o vreme, imi iau tava cu cina in brate si deschid televizorul. Ce film credeti, dragilor, c-am nimerit?

"Shall we dance?" :)))

The book of love has music in it...
"Il y a beaucoup de fleurs, m - de cosmacpan la: 26/01/2007 10:12:02
(la: DOMNULE, CU TOT RESPECTU' : ESTI UN BOU !)
"Il y a beaucoup de fleurs, mais peu
D'entre elles fruits au monde portent,
Frappent aux portes de la vie,
Pourtant s'teffeuillent beaucoup mortes.

C'est facile à faire des vers
Quand on n'a rien à dire au fond,
Enfilant de vides paroles
Qui dans les queues résonneront.

Mais quand ton coeur ardent pétrit
Grandes passions et vifs désires,
Quand ton esprit essaie toujours
D'en écouter tout le délire,"...............
"As you think, so shall you b - de Gabriela Anca la: 05/02/2007 20:27:13
(la: Aceasta este o poezie de dragoste)
"As you think, so shall you become."


Hmm, interesanta abordare...
"As you think, so shall you b - de Gabriela Anca la: 05/02/2007 20:27:13
(la: Aspect fizic sau trasaturi psihice?)
"As you think, so shall you become."

In legatura cu partenerul de viata, eu prefer sa existe compatibilitate (normal)... s-a mai spus de treaba asta si sunt perfect de acord. Si ce daca nu se incadreaza in tiparele de frumusete?! Si pana la urma ce e frumosul? E frumos ce-mi place mie... Si cand iubesti, vezi altfel. Acele trasaturi care in opinia altora nu il fac 'frumos' mie imi sunt dragi... caci asa cum e, e El... si pentru asta il iubesc si e cel mai frumos.
Si da, spunea cineva ca oamenii frumosi ar fi mai buni... cred ca deoarece sunt buni ne par si frumosi...
Frumusetea fizica oricum trece. Poate chiar maine, in urma unui accident de masina ramai desfigurat... Nu esti tot tu?! doar ca intr-un alt ambalaj... nu am intentia de a face glume pe seama asta... ma intreb doar...
ce diferencia hai ente un caballo y una vaca? - de Muresh la: 08/02/2007 20:19:23
(la: Loc de dat cu capul:)))
ce diferencia hai ente un caballo y una vaca?
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x, y, z... - de Lady Allia la: 09/12/2009 23:32:31
(la: De ce eu?...)
tu care necunoscută eşti în această ecuaţie? :P

eu sinceră să fiu, cred că ţine mai mult de noi decât de x, y, z.

pentru unele persoane simţim o afinitate de prima dată şi ca atare manifestăm o mai mare răbdare, înţelegere şi curiozitate, fiind dispuşi şi să facem anumite compromisuri, iar pe unele persoane le etichetăm din start "mi-e antipatic" şi restul decurge de la sine, indiferent cât s-r strădui bieţii X şi Z.

eu cred că majoritatea ar trebui trataţi la fel de prima dată, pentru ca să nu avem mustrări pentru mai târziu... - vobesc eu, care întotdeauna am ajuns să mă înţeleg mai bine cu X şi Z cu care iniţial eram doar în contre şi pe care i-am antipatizat de la bun început :).
"Principalii vinovati de această tradare sunt două preotese, X si Y" - de cosmacpan la: 25/06/2010 13:43:23
(la: Mare-i gradina...!)
deci fetelor, să vă intre bine în cap...sunteţi vinovate!
că cele două proatese X şi Y - normal mai ierea şi preioteasa Z dar ea s-a dat la fund şi-a spart tripleta de aur care după ştin aurul este ochiul dracului şi dracul (nu dacul) şi-a băgat coada între cele trei iele că doar despre iele este vorba şi a semănat discordia între iele şi bieţii daci care încă stau cu limba scoasă a aducere aminte...

cred că Herodotu ală care era tata la toată historia o fost hindus în heroină pen-că el spune că daci, geţi şi femeile lor erau cei mai prima dintre toate neamurilwe alea tragice...şi de aici s-a născut starea de inducere în hernie...
da n-am termanat că mă chiamă datoriile la masă şi nu poci pentru ca să lipsesc de la onorarile celea...
Tot propre choix... - de Alina Momanu la: 29/09/2003 06:59:31
(la: Exista sfintenie fara Dumnezeu?)
1.Rieux a ramas pentru ca voia sa salveze oameni... Un alt personaj, alege si el sa ramana in orasul aflat in carantina, desi il astepta iubita la Paris. Initial organizase o "evadare" la care renunta pentru ca ..."il peut y avoir de la honte d’être heureux tout seul". Spune-mi, te rog, el mai e erou, data fiind motivatia de mai sus?
2. Cred ca ai dreptate, pentru ca ma gandesc ca obisnuim sa ne sanctificam martirii. Si atunci laicul isi are locul lui in ce numesc eu sanctitate.
3. Multumesc.
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Sfintenia si puterea autosugestiei - de ninel la: 29/09/2003 09:53:34
(la: Exista sfintenie fara Dumnezeu?)
Am citit nu stiu unde de curand, ca oamenii ce-si risca sau sacrifica viata pentru altii au motive nu tocmai altruistice. Ca exemplu, cineva care-si risca viata pentru a salva pe un copil dintr-un incendiu o face pentru ca nu poate trai o viata normala stiind ca a lasat un copil sa moara in flacari. Deci motivul principal este frica de constiinta proprie si nu dorinta de a face bine. Este foarte posibil ca interpretarea asta sa fie prea cinica si departe de adevar, dar este o teorie ce nu poate fi negata usor.

Un alt unghi de a privi idea de sfintenie, este de a ne intreba pe noi insine daca nu cumva noi vedem sfinti acolo unde nu-s pentru ca vrem sa vedem, nu necesar pentru ca sunt. Un exemplu concret in aceasta privinta este Maica Teresa. Este considerata de multi o sfanta, iar Vaticanul este pe cale de a o canoniza. Datorita puterii mediei de a construi mituri si a dorintei launtrice de a vedea binele deasupra raului, aproape toti cred ca Maica Teresa este o sfanta intr-adevar. Dar nu toti accepta tot ce li se spune si unii chiar cauta nod in papura. Se pare ca i-au gasit nod si Maicii Teresa. Un eseist american oarecum cunoscut (scrie la Slate), Christopher Hitchens a fost unul dintre acesti sceptici. Iata ce are el de spus despre Maica Teresa:
http://www.swordoftruth.com/cgi-bin/forum.pl?action=display&num=1964

Eu fiind un sceptic si cinic, bineinteles ca nu cred tot ce zice tipul asta, dar unele din declaratiile lui dau de gandit. De exemplu, de ce ar fi sustinut Maica Teresa familia Duvalier din Haiti? Sau de ce nu a returnat milioanele de dolari murdari ai lui Charles Keating? Sau de ce foloseste majoritatea donatiilor pentru a-si construi un ordin personal in loc de a folosi banii pentru a ajuta pe cei ce au nevoie de ajutor? Poate ca multi considera ca banii sunt mai bine folositi daca ajuta raspandirea crestinatatii, chiar mai mult decat pentru a ajuta pe cei ce au nevoie de ajutor. Poate ca multi considera ca biserica catolica propaga cuvantul Domnului si nu intoleranta sau rigiditate doctrinara.

Indiferent de parerea unuia asupra fenomenului Maica Teresa, cati oare s-au intrebat vreodata daca Maica Teresa este ceea ce pare sa fie sau ce noi vrem sa fie, si mai mult decat intrebat, au cautat adevarul? Ori mai repede au preferat sa fie creduli si sa se autoamageasca de frica trezirii dintr-un vis frumos?
Am gasit eu de ce e mediatizat - de Alice la: 06/10/2003 10:04:27
(la: Singuratatea a devenit o boala rusinoasa?)
"Frédéric Beigbeder est un personnage très controversé et contradictoire, ce dandy aime son personnage et en même temps il n'hésite pas à se dévoiler dans ses auto-fictions. Il dénonce un système, la publicité, mais il y est resté 10 ans. Pour la présidentielle, le bourgeois de Neuilly devient conseiller du communiste Robert Hue."(de pe situl "oficial", cica)
Deci: dandy controversat care nu se sfieste sa-si puna poalele-n cap.:)+ R.Hue, alta figura!:)
O sa caut sa citesc ceva. Cam geu p’aici!
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Ah, bah.. - de papadie67 la: 14/10/2003 04:15:30
(la: Dragoste)
...y'a pas de quoi!...

se semeti-n streine graiuri buruiana, cand gadilat ii fu amoru' propriu
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Raspunsuri pt toti - de gabi la: 23/10/2003 17:26:11
(la: Viata gay...romaneasca!)
Mi se pare mie, sau Sorin ofera mai jos o analiza de bun simt?

Atat credinciosul cat si ateul, atat omul de stiinta cat si gospodina care incearca sa-si creasca copilul in sensul si nu impotriva naturii, cred ca pot gasi argumente valide in pledoaria lui Sorin pentru marginalizarea acestui fenomen, pe cat posibil, asa cum a fost cazul in (aproape) toate societatile umane dintotdeauna, pana foarte recent.

Atentie, am zis marginalizare, nu ignorare sau pedepsire. Zic: cercetare stiintifica in vederea intelegerii fenomenului (bolii) spre a-l putea candva eradica prin vindecare, nu prin persecutie.

Dar zic de-asemenea ca exagerarea in extrema opusa ("mandria de-a fi gay") este periculoasa prin consecinte si prin ceea ce ascunde - si anume "denial" (complacere in refuzul acceptarii si infruntarii realitatii), compromitand astfel orice incercare de revenire la "normal". Asemenea "mandriei de-a fi obez", de exemplu...Sunt convins ca atat homosexualii cat si obezii se vor lipsi bucurosi de "mandria" lor, atunci cand va exista un remediu pentru problema lor. Caci este o problema, si nu o "alta fatzeta a normalitatii".

Incheind pe o nota mai vesela, era un banc care zicea: "stiind ca homosexualii nu se pot reproduce, neputand deci avea copii, atunci cum se face ca sunt din ce in ce mai multi?". (Coluche)
"Putain, on nous dit qu'i's' reproduissent pas, et pourtant y'en a de plus en plus, merde!"
Repet, era un banc...n-are rost sa-l analizam stiintific..e doar un banc! (:
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x nu-i egal cu y - de Alice la: 25/10/2003 03:11:31
(la: Diasporeanul si Mellinndda)
No, destul ca sa-mi ajunga sa rezolv ecuatia!
Dar "trag" singura concluziile, ca sa nu-i jignim nici pe M, nici pe D, desi amandoi sunt vrednici de mila!:(
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La Fille ainee de l' Eglise - de papadie67 la: 27/10/2003 22:38:38
(la: duplicitatea francezilor)
Franta a fost odata o Mare Putere. E-adevarat, n-a fost niciodata Singura Putere, asemenea vechilor Romani (din Roma, nu Roman) sau actualilor americani (pentru cat timp?...alta tchorba).

Nici o fosta mare putere nu se impaca usor cu statutul de "fosta". Cazul Portugaliei (sec 16-17), Spaniei (17-18), Angliei (20), Germaniei, Japoniei si Rusiei mai recent si pt mai scurt timp, al Americii (cand? om vedea, dac-om trai!).

Este normal si omeneste ca si Franta, la randul ei, sa-nghita greu galushca.
Atata doar ca Franta nu-i ca nici-o alta fosta mare sau mica putere. Franta este Unica, asemenea (ce ironie!) poporului evreu! Franta a fost, este si Trebuie neaparat sa fie unica, fie pe-atlazuri fie "ds la merde". Y' a pas pareil...on est Frrancais!
Si asta deoarece francezii, cum zicea deGaulle despre el insusi, "ont une certaine vision de la France". Eh bah tant mieux!

Atata doar ca actualmente Franta a ajuns in penibila postura (de care nici macar nu pare a fi constienta si lasandu-se stimulata de-aplauze de mana a treia) de-a striga "gare au feu!" in timp ce se joaca, duplicitar, parshiv si lash, cu chibrituri. In Algeria, de 'fro cativa anisori buni, in Orientul Mijlociu mai nou si mai cucurigat, in fosta Yugoslavie mai deunazi si cel mai de rahat...

...vorbind eu mai sus, bunantzeles, de "politici de stat" si nu de popoare sau indivizi simpatici care se-ntampla sa ne fie prieteni.
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asta este opinia ta - de JCC la: 29/10/2003 12:54:10
(la: Evreii si o manie curioasa..)
nu stiu daca ne cunoastem sau nu, cunosc utilizatorul "tolanici" aici pe luneta, dar daca vrei poti pune X sau Y, principalul sa am o identificare pentru a adresa un raspuns.. :-)

despre toate momentele si faptele in decursul istoriei pe care le expui,
aceasta este opinia ta si esti liber sa o ai, lasa si altora libertatea de a avea o opinie sau de a si-o face...

Constat dupa asigurarea afirmarilor tale, ca cunosti si ai trait multe, deci trebuie sa fi in varsta destul de inaintata,
eu sunt mai tanar, stiu doar ce-mi povestesc parintii si bunicii,

poti sa-mi spui pe ce date si dovezi precise te bazezi? povesteste-ne lucrurile concrete traite de tine, ce cunosti din indelungata ta experienta?
lucrurile traite, de catre oameni care par impartiali, ma intereseaza
mult, ascultand invat multe..


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